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sys · « **Reply #6675 on:** July 17, 2015, 01:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Fedor on July 17, 2015, 01:32:14 PM

He has not as far as I know. I was just trying to illustrate how gender politics has transformed the even more of the language associated with this issue. If I understand your position correctly you should not have to change your pronouns even after surgery. The biological sex will not have changed.

yes, "confirmation" is ridiculous.

you are correct that i think the most accurate pronoun in the correct one to use. i'm quite confident that the male pronoun is more accurate, currently. post surgery, i'd be less confident. genetically the organism would still be male, but we don't directly perceive an organism's genes. hormone treatments would cause many of the organism's characters to express more as female than male. most (all?) sexual organs would be surgically changed to female or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

we refer to neutered animals as male. we refer to eunuchs as male. however those are organisms that have merely had the testicles removed. no attempt to replace the male sexual organs with female has occurred.

i'd want to think about it in more detail, but i think the female pronoun is probably the most appropriate, all in all.

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #6676 on:** July 17, 2015, 02:30:27 PM »

Quote from: sys on July 17, 2015, 01:58:07 PM

Quote from: Fedor on July 17, 2015, 01:32:14 PM
He has not as far as I know. I was just trying to illustrate how gender politics has transformed the even more of the language associated with this issue. If I understand your position correctly you should not have to change your pronouns even after surgery. The biological sex will not have changed.

yes, "confirmation" is ridiculous.

you are correct that i think the most accurate pronoun in the correct one to use. i'm quite confident that the male pronoun is more accurate, currently. post surgery, i'd be less confident. genetically the organism would still be male, but we don't directly perceive an organism's genes. hormone treatments would cause many of the organism's characters to express more as female than male. most (all?) sexual organs would be surgically changed to female or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

we refer to neutered animals as male. we refer to eunuchs as male. however those are organisms that have merely had the testicles removed. no attempt to replace the male sexual organs with female has occurred.

i'd want to think about it in more detail, but i think the female pronoun is probably the most appropriate, all in all.

Do you inspect everyone's genitals before using pronouns referring to them?

sys · « **Reply #6677 on:** July 17, 2015, 02:47:02 PM »

that's my preference.

steve dave · « **Reply #6678 on:** July 17, 2015, 02:51:09 PM »

0.42 · « **Reply #6679 on:** July 17, 2015, 02:53:12 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on July 17, 2015, 02:51:09 PM

omg luke dave

steve dave · « **Reply #6680 on:** July 17, 2015, 02:59:24 PM »

You may want to note the commentary on mine crap head

sys · « **Reply #6681 on:** July 17, 2015, 03:12:28 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on July 17, 2015, 02:59:24 PM

You may want to note the commentary on mine crap head

there's no commentary, steve dave. just an empty black space.

steve dave · « **Reply #6682 on:** July 17, 2015, 07:44:53 PM »

steve dave · « **Reply #6683 on:** July 17, 2015, 08:08:18 PM »

CNS · « **Reply #6684 on:** July 17, 2015, 08:09:45 PM »

Diabetes

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Spracne · « **Reply #6685 on:** July 17, 2015, 08:47:28 PM »

That's an old video. That guy has been dead for some time.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #6686 on:** July 17, 2015, 09:51:37 PM »

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The truth is I think it could be a possibility and I think this country would be better off if the south won this time maybe we could get some things back to the way they should be. I believe it's your right to believe in what you want and say what you want but Americans fought and died for that flag just like all US soldiers have fought for the American flag leave it on the war memorials some men laying out in that field could have fought for the battle flag just my opinion.

cfbandyman · « **Reply #6687 on:** July 17, 2015, 10:29:57 PM »

Quote from: bubbles4ksu on July 17, 2015, 09:51:37 PM

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The truth is I think it could be a possibility and I think this country would be better off if the south won this time maybe we could get some things back to the way they should be. I believe it's your right to believe in what you want and say what you want but Americans fought and died for that flag just like all US soldiers have fought for the American flag leave it on the war memorials some men laying out in that field could have fought for the battle flag just my opinion.

I mean if the South wants to lose again...

Spracne · « **Reply #6688 on:** July 18, 2015, 12:03:44 AM »

I'm really curious if the reason that particular flag was resurrected by the anti-civil-rights movement was because they took one look at the more legitimate csa flags and were like ewwwwwwy

Spracne · « **Reply #6689 on:** July 18, 2015, 12:05:21 AM »

I mean, objectively, it's just a much more attractive flag.

sys · « **Reply #6690 on:** July 18, 2015, 02:00:16 AM »

it's a good looking flag. also, the scots-irish thing probably comes into play.

Frankenklein · « **Reply #6691 on:** July 18, 2015, 07:58:15 AM »

So you're saying it's a quilt

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #6692 on:** July 18, 2015, 08:28:51 AM »

Quote from: Frankenklein on July 18, 2015, 07:58:15 AM

So you're saying it's a quilt

A very pretty quilt

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #6693 on:** July 18, 2015, 12:19:11 PM »

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michigancat · « **Reply #6694 on:** July 18, 2015, 12:35:17 PM »

michigancat · « **Reply #6695 on:** July 18, 2015, 12:38:21 PM »

michigancat · « **Reply #6696 on:** July 19, 2015, 01:39:37 PM »

TPNN just seems like a treat

Tobias · « **Reply #6697 on:** July 19, 2015, 02:23:35 PM »

what was the BIG TIME backfire?

michigancat · « **Reply #6698 on:** July 19, 2015, 02:29:31 PM »

Quote from: Tobias on July 19, 2015, 02:23:35 PM

what was the BIG TIME backfire?

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Western Journalism published a pre-show piece on the Arthur Ashe Courage Award given to Jenner — that post was entitled “Receiving The ‘Courage’ Award From ESPN Could Be The Worst Thing To Happen To Caitlyn Jenner.” Ironically, putting the used-to-be-a-man cultural celebrity in the center-stage spotlight during the nationally televised ABC show last night may have been pretty bad for ESPN as well…if posted reaction is any indicator.

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While we didn’t review all the hundreds of comments on the ESPN webpage regarding the award to Caitlyn Jenner, the above represent a small sampling of the many negative views that seemed to far outweigh the positive response to the 2015 ESPYs. It will be interesting to see if ABC/ESPN scored a ratings victory with its broadcast that — thanks to the hugely controversial honor to Caitlyn Jenner — could very well have generated more pre-show publicity than any such program in the past.

It will be interesting to see.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #6699 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:42:52 PM »

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