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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8400 on: Today at 11:15:08 AM »
First link is 404'd

Second is clearly brennon's opinion

First link works fine for me. And re Brennan, I'm just giving you one small example of the speculation about the Russia investigation that turned out to be utter bullshit. This man isn't some crank off the street, he's a crank who used to be CIA Director. Put on the air to spout nonsense for which he had no factual basis whatsoever. Speculation. Like so much of the Russiagate reporting. Even CNN Stetler is admitting there was loads of speculation - but he's cool with it "because it opens our eyes to what's possible."

It's hard for me to say that he was spouting nonsense when the report has yet to be released.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8401 on: Today at 11:16:39 AM »
Does kdub give this much of a crap when pre-game hosts are wrong about which team they think will win? This speculation has to end!  :jerk:
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8402 on: Today at 11:28:46 AM »
You really need examples? Ok.... here's one massive speculative article tying together all manner of speculative reports. https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-COLUSION

Here's another. Obama CIA Director John Brennan predicts additional indictments just two weeks ago. https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/23/john-brennan-predicted-trump-indictments-mueller/

You want more? Put together a Gems from Chum's Russiagate Fantasy Thread.

Opinion pieces should have a lot of speculation. That is the point of an opinion article.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8403 on: Today at 11:40:50 AM »
Here’s an interesting take from some guy named Brian Stelter on CNN, who seems to think that most of the media’s reporting on Russiagate was down the middle.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/03/24/cnns_brian_stelter_on_mueller_coverage_speculation_has_value_too.html

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If I had to pick speculation or solid reporting, I would pick solid reporting in a second. I bet you would too. Reporting is what adds the most value. Finding out something new, putting out new information into the world is the best feeling in journalism. It is the greatest value add. Hundreds of journalists have been trying to solve pieces of this Trump-Russia puzzle.

But here's the thing -- Speculation actually has value too. It helps open our eyes and our minds to what's possible.

But.... no, right? Nobody here actually thinks that’s a good take, right? Simply publishing speculation at face value is not a good thing for the media or this country. But that’s what the Russiagate reporting was, time and time again.
Speculation has value, sure, but it isn’t journalism. That distinction should mean something.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8404 on: Today at 12:29:17 PM »
5 people in prison, 37 people/entities charged with crimes. Only the most adamant Trumper could come in here today without seeing the report and shout scoreboard. Especially with how many other investigations are still happening.

Good for you guys I guess?
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Remember how you guys constantly parroted how nothing was found on the Clinton's, well. except those in their orbit that were charged and convicted for bank fraud, criminal contempt, mail fraud, conspiracy, perjury and tax evasion.   You know, when subpoenaed records just "turned up" two years later on a table all Shazam Blam-O like in the White House??     Plus, a sitting president was impeached and a sitting governor was convicted.

Still didn't stop LibDerp Nation from making the Clinton's icons and pillars of the Democratic party to the point they almost got to bring their criminal racket back to the White House for a second run.




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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8405 on: Today at 12:52:54 PM »
More quoting and replying to me with comments that make no logical sense to what you are quoting. Is bbsn that hard for olds?

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8406 on: Today at 12:57:03 PM »
More quoting and replying to me with comments that make no logical sense to what you are quoting. Is bbsn that hard for olds?

 :lol:  It makes perfect sense. 

Just admit you are extremely disappointed in what appears to be the outcome of the Mueller invstigation.

Now just looking forward to seeing how Barr handles the coming criminal referrals from Congressional Republicans.


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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8407 on: Today at 01:18:05 PM »
I'm in no way disappointed there is no evidence the leader of my country actively worked to alter our election process with a foreign power. Are you insane?

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8408 on: Today at 01:44:13 PM »
Alright! It brought KSU-Dub back!


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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8409 on: Today at 01:51:27 PM »
I'm in no way disappointed there is no evidence the leader of my country actively worked to alter our election process with a foreign power. Are you insane?

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8410 on: Today at 02:05:13 PM »
Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi has produced the first (and definitely not the last) post-Mueller autopsy of how journalists disgraced themselves with Russiagate speculation. It’s a long read but worth it. Especially for anyone who genuinely believes that the media on the whole didn’t do anything wrong.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8411 on: Today at 02:14:55 PM »
Read it until he starts bitching about editorials and snl. Good grief.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #8412 on: Today at 02:30:51 PM »
the only thing journalists are guilty of is still using MF'ing "-gate" in 2019, my goodness can we stop