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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #200 on: February 04, 2013, 10:49:02 AM »
If you're adding windows to the bram add them to the concourse areas not the arena. Concourse needs to be redone to be elite. on the inside extend the open air loge box things all around. Then move the roof up adding seating above and making the concourse two levels. The sides need 8 to 12 rows of "club level" seating with luxury boxes behind them, and on the ends you add 12 to 20 rows of of seating.
I hate the idea of taking any seats from students. I have no problem with more lodge seating from the west side. Hell the high level donors don't even like to sit down that far anyway.

Current loge seating is already taken out of student and general admission seating. Adding additional loge seating would not take away student ticket numbers

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« Reply #201 on: February 04, 2013, 10:51:17 AM »
If you're adding windows to the bram add them to the concourse areas not the arena. Concourse needs to be redone to be elite. on the inside extend the open air loge box things all around. Then move the roof up adding seating above and making the concourse two levels. The sides need 8 to 12 rows of "club level" seating with luxury boxes behind them, and on the ends you add 12 to 20 rows of of seating.
I hate the idea of taking any seats from students. I have no problem with more lodge seating from the west side. Hell the high level donors don't even like to sit down that far anyway.

Yeah, who wants to sit close to the action...VLHLDIQ

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« Reply #202 on: February 04, 2013, 10:54:42 AM »
maybe student seats need to be taken away. seems like it hasn't really been full at all this year. (with exception of KU)

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« Reply #203 on: February 04, 2013, 11:03:13 AM »
If you're adding windows to the bram add them to the concourse areas not the arena. Concourse needs to be redone to be elite. on the inside extend the open air loge box things all around. Then move the roof up adding seating above and making the concourse two levels. The sides need 8 to 12 rows of "club level" seating with luxury boxes behind them, and on the ends you add 12 to 20 rows of of seating.
I hate the idea of taking any seats from students. I have no problem with more lodge seating from the west side. Hell the high level donors don't even like to sit down that far anyway.

Current loge seating is already taken out of student and general admission seating. Adding additional loge seating would not take away student ticket numbers
I took this to mean down and out increasing area for a bigger lodge/suite area:
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maybe student seats need to be taken away. seems like it hasn't really been full at all this year. (with exception of KU)
well the university should have thought of that before they had the students pay for the building.

If you're adding windows to the bram add them to the concourse areas not the arena. Concourse needs to be redone to be elite. on the inside extend the open air loge box things all around. Then move the roof up adding seating above and making the concourse two levels. The sides need 8 to 12 rows of "club level" seating with luxury boxes behind them, and on the ends you add 12 to 20 rows of of seating.
I hate the idea of taking any seats from students. I have no problem with more lodge seating from the west side. Hell the high level donors don't even like to sit down that far anyway.

Yeah, who wants to sit close to the action...VLHLDIQ

sorry to break it, I know a couple, they don't want to risk their shirt coming untucked with all that steppin.
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« Reply #204 on: February 04, 2013, 11:06:01 AM »
If you're adding windows to the bram add them to the concourse areas not the arena. Concourse needs to be redone to be elite. on the inside extend the open air loge box things all around. Then move the roof up adding seating above and making the concourse two levels. The sides need 8 to 12 rows of "club level" seating with luxury boxes behind them, and on the ends you add 12 to 20 rows of of seating.
I hate the idea of taking any seats from students. I have no problem with more lodge seating from the west side. Hell the high level donors don't even like to sit down that far anyway.

Current loge seating is already taken out of student and general admission seating. Adding additional loge seating would not take away student ticket numbers

It would take away from the "GA" student seats but I do not care one bit about that. As it stands now students have over 4,000 "seats" and they let in close to 4,600 students in before they turn people away. The only game this year we've had more than 3000 students is the KU game. Taking away 200-300 student GA spots for luxury seats isn't going to do anything.

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« Reply #205 on: February 04, 2013, 11:07:34 AM »
maybe student seats need to be taken away. seems like it hasn't really been full at all this year. (with exception of KU)

From my experience, it is rare that the students are less full than the rest of the stadium.  And the ridiculously large student section helped make the OOD.

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« Reply #206 on: February 04, 2013, 12:58:44 PM »
maybe student seats need to be taken away. seems like it hasn't really been full at all this year. (with exception of KU)

From my experience, it is rare that the students are less full than the rest of the stadium. And the ridiculously large student section helped make the OOD.

The irrational amount of importance people put on this talking point holds us back. Bram would be fine with a few hundred less student seats. And this is from a guy who was a student just six months ago. Money is obviously far more important if we're serious about half the stuff you guys are talking about on here.

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« Reply #207 on: February 04, 2013, 01:11:45 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

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« Reply #208 on: February 04, 2013, 01:15:36 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

Understatement of the year.  SGA rolls like a wheel.

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« Reply #209 on: February 04, 2013, 01:19:33 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

"Banners," as in, replacing our painted accomplishments with actual banners in the rafters?

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« Reply #210 on: February 04, 2013, 01:23:27 PM »
The student seating policy stems from the fact that the students paid half the bill on Bramlage.   Thankfully 8 or 9 years later Max Urick was completely rejected on his plans to get the students to pay for the East Stadium, so Max half assed it instead of going out and trying to raise more money.    Thankfully those days appear to be long gone.   Seeking student fees on major facilities projects is idiotic in hindsight, and only hurts over the long haul. 

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« Reply #211 on: February 04, 2013, 01:26:26 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

"Banners," as in, replacing our painted accomplishments with actual banners in the rafters?

Yes.

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #212 on: February 04, 2013, 01:27:20 PM »
The student seating policy stems from the fact that the students paid half the bill on Bramlage.   Thankfully 8 or 9 years later Max Urick was completely rejected on his plans to get the students to pay for the East Stadium, so Max half assed it instead of going out and trying to raise more money.    Thankfully those days appear to be long gone.   Seeking student fees on major facilities projects is idiotic in hindsight, and only hurts over the long haul. 


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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #213 on: February 04, 2013, 01:35:58 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

"Banners," as in, replacing our painted accomplishments with actual banners in the rafters?

Yes.

One of those banners better have a big rough ridin' zero on it.
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« Reply #214 on: February 04, 2013, 01:36:24 PM »
Some points:

Reno/remodel of Bramlage is definitely in the plans. No idea on timetable, but I do know concourse/videoboard/banners/donor areas are all priorities.

Loge boxes did not take away any student seats, just relocated them to other areas.

There is an old University policy from when Bramlage was built that guarantees a certain percentage of seats be reserved as student seats. So removing any student seats would require SGA and University action and agreement. Not a huge roadblock, but it's not something that Athletics can just do on a whim.

"Banners," as in, replacing our painted accomplishments with actual banners in the rafters?

Yes.

Good, but I think when it's done, part of me will miss the paint.

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« Reply #215 on: February 04, 2013, 01:38:16 PM »
Banners are stupid and everybody only does it because everybody else does it.
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« Reply #216 on: February 04, 2013, 11:49:47 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks any exit from the tourney prior to the final four doesn't deserve a banner? You didn't win anything. Not even your region. Why have a banner? Why keep score? Everyone is a winner as long as you try hard and have fun. Amirite?
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« Reply #217 on: February 05, 2013, 12:43:40 AM »
Am I the only one who thinks any exit from the tourney prior to the final four doesn't deserve a banner? You didn't win anything. Not even your region. Why have a banner? Why keep score? Everyone is a winner as long as you try hard and have fun. Amirite?
NCAAs are fine to have on the wall.  Elite 8s can get a banner with all the years done.  Final 4s should have their own banner and place in the sun.
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« Reply #218 on: February 05, 2013, 01:49:44 PM »
Let's talk Ribbon Boards . . . nothing against them if they're showing game stats during game action and then various game related graphics after a dunk or a nice shot, but the constant parade of advertising is annoying, and when they're over deployed, they're even more annoying. 

A nice strip of ribbon board in each corner would be fine, but not around the whole arena.


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« Reply #219 on: February 05, 2013, 02:30:04 PM »
Lets get out students to flash advertising signage during free throws ala #floodaggie. That was so rough ridin' smalltimey btw. :lol:

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« Reply #220 on: February 05, 2013, 09:36:36 PM »
did I hear that right, Michigan has put nearly 100 mil into their digs?
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« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2013, 09:37:24 PM »
so around 20 mill in 2009 for phase one. phase two was approved for 52 in 2011 and just finished before this year.
http://www.annarbor.com/news/u-m-board-of-regents-approves-schematic-designs-for-52-million-second-phase-of-crisler-arena-renovat/
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« Reply #222 on: February 05, 2013, 09:52:00 PM »
Let's talk Ribbon Boards . . . nothing against them if they're showing game stats during game action and then various game related graphics after a dunk or a nice shot, but the constant parade of advertising is annoying, and when they're over deployed, they're even more annoying. 

A nice strip of ribbon board in each corner would be fine, but not around the whole arena.


Excessive advertising at sporting events piss me off. They are wasting their $ on me. I NEVER pay attn . I still can't tell you who gives out those f'g free cookies. Don't care.  Ribbon boards should be for stats, scores, and that lighted flying USA flag during the Nat'l anthem.
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« Reply #223 on: February 05, 2013, 10:56:33 PM »
Let's talk Ribbon Boards . . . nothing against them if they're showing game stats during game action and then various game related graphics after a dunk or a nice shot, but the constant parade of advertising is annoying, and when they're over deployed, they're even more annoying. 

A nice strip of ribbon board in each corner would be fine, but not around the whole arena.


Excessive advertising at sporting events piss me off. They are wasting their $ on me. I NEVER pay attn . I still can't tell you who gives out those f'g free cookies. Don't care.  Ribbon boards should be for stats, scores, and that lighted flying USA flag during the Nat'l anthem.

Aren't the cookies from housing and dinning?   :dunno:
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« Reply #224 on: February 05, 2013, 11:14:26 PM »
is that bakery still in the derb?  there isn't a single good place to get non-commercial cookies in manhattan.
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