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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #575 on: September 18, 2014, 08:24:24 AM »
The new screen will have something like 5,000 times* the number of pixels as the old screen.




*Made up statistic, but fairly accurate.

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #576 on: September 18, 2014, 08:30:33 AM »
The new screen will have something like 5,000 times* the number of pixels as the old screen.




*Made up statistic, but fairly accurate.

I heard an accurate comparison is Atari on an old tube TV compared to PS4 on a 4K TV.

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #577 on: September 18, 2014, 10:42:44 AM »
The renderings are misleading.  The new overall scoreboard is more than double the size of the old one.

what does "double" mean? double the diagonal dimension is a lot more impressive than double the total area

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #578 on: September 18, 2014, 01:07:39 PM »
Rumblings that the OOD will actually be the score board and we will be playing and watching from inside it  :surprised:

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #579 on: September 26, 2014, 04:09:23 PM »


UPDATED: doesn't look like they've done much the last week. probs lots of marlboro butts and mgd cans out by the dumpster.

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« Reply #580 on: September 26, 2014, 04:50:07 PM »
Or they were waiting on electrical stuff and the new lighting to be put in etc. etc.

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« Reply #581 on: September 26, 2014, 05:25:16 PM »
Or they were waiting on electrical stuff and the new lighting to be put in etc. etc.

poor planning then.

but i'll always expect you to side with your bros, sonofdaxtronics.

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« Reply #582 on: September 26, 2014, 05:29:10 PM »
Or they were waiting on electrical stuff and the new lighting to be put in etc. etc.

poor planning then.

but i'll always expect you to side with your bros, sonofdaxtronics.

Daxtronics nor Daktronics has this job.

I've been in my fair share of technology projects and sometimes if time, space, resources and material allow certain phases get finished and then staged awaiting the completion of other phases.   Seems reasonable . . . yes/no?   

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« Reply #583 on: September 26, 2014, 05:32:14 PM »
very reasonable, actually. i'm just yankin' your chain, ol bud.

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #584 on: September 26, 2014, 07:22:32 PM »
Pretty sure the carreer fair took over the fred for a few days too
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« Reply #585 on: September 26, 2014, 10:16:08 PM »
Of course it could be because K-State (like many gov't oriented entities) is a notorious pain in the ass to deal with.


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« Reply #586 on: September 26, 2014, 10:48:56 PM »
k-state is by far the worst client to work for in the area from mhk to kc, much worse than other gov't oriented entities.
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« Reply #587 on: September 26, 2014, 11:24:31 PM »
Pretty sure the carreer fair took over the fred for a few days too

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« Reply #588 on: September 28, 2014, 06:19:21 PM »
Pretty sure the carreer fair took over the fred for a few days too

it did.

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« Reply #589 on: September 30, 2014, 06:23:32 AM »
k-state is by far the worst client to work for in the area from mhk to kc, much worse than other gov't oriented entities.

Why is this?  Bureaucracy?   Too many know-it-alls or "chiefs"?




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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #590 on: September 30, 2014, 08:43:00 AM »
k-state is by far the worst client to work for in the area from mhk to kc, much worse than other gov't oriented entities.

Why is this?  Bureaucracy?   Too many know-it-alls or "chiefs"?

Indecisiveness, too many chiefs, unrealistic expectations when it comes to how much something will cost, not as innovative as they think they are, choose lower price over quality of product/solution, unwilling to go outside the "norm"

K-State sometimes reminds me of my 60+ year old uncle who has never left the farm and is set in all his ways and unwilling to open his mind to new things.  Schulz, Currie, and donors are slowly making it better.

lib hit it on the nose though.  Extremely hard client to do business with.   
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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #591 on: September 30, 2014, 09:00:54 AM »
we should have back lit the powercats on the wsc

i would be surprised if we see this new scoreboard before the 15-16 season.  i'm guessing we go with a temp solution this year, maybe attach a 60 inch lcd to each side of this metal structure.


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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #592 on: September 30, 2014, 09:30:39 AM »
k-state is by far the worst client to work for in the area from mhk to kc, much worse than other gov't oriented entities.

Why is this?  Bureaucracy?   Too many know-it-alls or "chiefs"?

Indecisiveness, too many chiefs, unrealistic expectations when it comes to how much something will cost, not as innovative as they think they are, choose lower price over quality of product/solution, unwilling to go outside the "norm"

K-State sometimes reminds me of my 60+ year old uncle who has never left the farm and is set in all his ways and unwilling to open his mind to new things.  Schulz, Currie, and donors are slowly making it better.

lib hit it on the nose though.  Extremely hard client to do business with.   

So, if the President, AD, and the people who hold the money are not the problem, who is the problem?

It seems like most of the primary stakeholders that can shape a culture are on board given your statement.  Who seems to be the problem?

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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #593 on: September 30, 2014, 10:48:28 AM »
k-state is by far the worst client to work for in the area from mhk to kc, much worse than other gov't oriented entities.

Why is this?  Bureaucracy?   Too many know-it-alls or "chiefs"?

Indecisiveness, too many chiefs, unrealistic expectations when it comes to how much something will cost, not as innovative as they think they are, choose lower price over quality of product/solution, unwilling to go outside the "norm"

K-State sometimes reminds me of my 60+ year old uncle who has never left the farm and is set in all his ways and unwilling to open his mind to new things.  Schulz, Currie, and donors are slowly making it better.

lib hit it on the nose though.  Extremely hard client to do business with.   

So, if the President, AD, and the people who hold the money are not the problem, who is the problem?

It seems like most of the primary stakeholders that can shape a culture are on board given your statement.  Who seems to be the problem?

I should clarify that they were the problem, and are now making it better because they have now been through many projects on campus and are finally figuring crap out.  Think back to all the projects in the past 5 years on campus.  Which ones were actually completed on time?  The only one I can think of is the WSC.  In the past, it seems indecisiveness and sticker shock have slowed them down and in turn made them a huge pain to work with.  I also don't think they communicate well internally.   :th_twocents:   
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Re: Fixing the Octagon.
« Reply #594 on: September 30, 2014, 11:44:36 AM »
i think it's also important to note that GC's and the people who work for them can be massive pain in the asses too and when you're paying someone +$50M to build something for you that it's ok to be a bit of a pitb


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« Reply #595 on: September 30, 2014, 11:46:21 AM »
they could have taken a hands-off approach and ended up with a train wreck like they have down in stillwater


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« Reply #596 on: September 30, 2014, 06:34:51 PM »
Too many chiefs is def one of the main problems. The amount of people that have to agree to each decision is really excessive. A normal project has like 1-5 people doing this, Kstate is closer to 10-15 (in my experiences)
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« Reply #597 on: September 30, 2014, 06:42:54 PM »
They also change their mind much more often than other clients.

Like clams says tho, they get what they want.  They also have tons of things going on all the time. About a third of my company's total business is on campus, so the steady work is a fair tradeoff for indecisiveness.
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« Reply #599 on: October 01, 2014, 12:18:51 AM »
That is large :excited: