Wild Wildcats in NFL Draft

[CD]

Keeping the streak alive in the future

2019 draft: Risner 2nd round
Barnes (early entry) 4th round

2020 draft:
Scott Frantz 5th round
Da'Quan Patton 7th round

2021
Nick Lenners 4th round
Mike McCoy 6th round
Hunter Rison 6th round

2022
Josh Rivas 5th round
Chabastin Taylor 5th round
Wyatt Hubert 6th round
Ben Adler 7th round

[MakeItRain]

They aren't drafting Scott Frantz. He'll need to be the highest graded player for his position to possibly go on the third day. We'll hear the word "distraction" thrown around a lot.

[420seriouscat69]

He might lose out on a round or two, but I barely recall the broadcast team bringing up his preferred sexual orientation like you thought they would, so maybe pump the breaks a bit.

[manpow5]

He might lose out on a round or two, but I barely recall the broadcast team bringing up his preferred sexual orientation like you thought they would, so maybe pump the breaks a bit.

It'll be 2020  by the time he goes in the draft. Progressiveness is moving at an all out blitz pace, it won't be an issue. (Probably pit worthy)

[420seriouscat69]

He might lose out on a round or two, but I barely recall the broadcast team bringing up his preferred sexual orientation like you thought they would, so maybe pump the breaks a bit.

It'll be 2020  by the time he goes in the draft. Progressiveness is moving at an all out blitz pace, it won't be an issue. (Probably pit worthy)

I agree. I was actually a bit surprised it wasn't much of a story after he came out to ESPN. This is really good news. Not even my bumpkin family gave two shits about it. #Progress

[Paul Moscow]

Former LSU running back Derrius Guice said in an interview Wednesday that one NFL team asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute at the NFL Scouting Combine that concluded earlier this week.

‘’It was pretty crazy," Guice said in an interview on the SiriusXM NFL show Late Hits. "Some people are really trying to get in your head and test your reaction. ... I go in one room, and a team will ask me do I like men, just to see my reaction. I go in another room, they’ll try to bring up one of my family members or something and tell me, 'Hey, I heard your mom sells herself. How do you feel about that?’ "

sounds like your basic run-of-the-mill interview to me

[manpow5]

Former LSU running back Derrius Guice said in an interview Wednesday that one NFL team asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute at the NFL Scouting Combine that concluded earlier this week.

‘’It was pretty crazy," Guice said in an interview on the SiriusXM NFL show Late Hits. "Some people are really trying to get in your head and test your reaction. ... I go in one room, and a team will ask me do I like men, just to see my reaction. I go in another room, they’ll try to bring up one of my family members or something and tell me, 'Hey, I heard your mom sells herself. How do you feel about that?’ "

sounds like your basic run-of-the-mill interview to me

Pretty sure they proved this was false

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/989283844959428608

[pissclams]

if sam got drafted into a different position despite a terrible combine, frantz will be fine.  and that's what happened so, frantz will be fine

[MakeItRain]

I was being a bit facetious, but Michael Sam was the SEC player of the year and went in the last round.

Early projections had Sam as a third- or fourth-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. His performance in the NFL Scouting Combine in February 2014 was seen as disappointing, which lowered expectations about whether he would be taken in the draft. He was considered to be too small to play defensive end and too slow to play outside linebacker. He showed improvement at a public workout a month later, but his pre-draft rankings ranged from 12th to 25th among defensive ends. At the 2013 draft, 33 defensive ends were selected overall, with 23 taken in the final four rounds.

Not only was he taken in the 7th round but he was the last defensive end taken and the 8th from last overall player. There has been absolutely positively no progress with openly gay players in major American team sports. The three who came out are all out of their leagues and their plight didn't empower anyone else to follow suit, not even in major league soccer.

[CD]

40 YARD DASH: 4.91 SEC
BENCH PRESS: 17 REPS
VERTICAL JUMP: 25.5 INCH
BROAD JUMP: 114.0 INCH
3 CONE DRILL: 7.80 SEC
20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.70 SEC

Good college player, just not athletic enough to make it in the pros.
He was basically a heavier Meshak Williams.

[manpow5]

I was being a bit facetious, but Michael Sam was the SEC player of the year and went in the last round.

Early projections had Sam as a third- or fourth-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. His performance in the NFL Scouting Combine in February 2014 was seen as disappointing, which lowered expectations about whether he would be taken in the draft. He was considered to be too small to play defensive end and too slow to play outside linebacker. He showed improvement at a public workout a month later, but his pre-draft rankings ranged from 12th to 25th among defensive ends. At the 2013 draft, 33 defensive ends were selected overall, with 23 taken in the final four rounds.

Not only was he taken in the 7th round but he was the last defensive end taken and the 8th from last overall player. There has been absolutely positively no progress with openly gay players in major American team sports. The three who came out are all out of their leagues and their plight didn't empower anyone else to follow suit, not even in major league soccer.

If he would have not had such a shitty combine then he probably would have gone higher. If Frantz comes out being a top 5 O-lineman then I highly doubt anyone passes on him in the draft. Teams live and die by their o-line, mediocre D-ends are a dime a dozen.

[ChiComCat]

Sexual preference is irrelevant.

This is just dense.

[Yard Dog]

Sexual preference is irrelevant.

This is just dense.

It would probably be more accurately stated - if you are a freak athlete, sexual preference is irrelevant; if you are a decent athlete, it comes up; if you could make a roster as a back up, it is front and center

[ChiComCat]

Sexual preference is irrelevant.

This is just dense.

It would probably be more accurately stated - if you are a freak athlete, sexual preference is irrelevant; if you are a decent athlete, it comes up; if you could make a roster as a back up, it is front and center

Agreed.  I think it'll be treated like an injury or any other distraction, the patience for it will be dependent on his talent. 

[MakeItRain]

I was being a bit facetious, but Michael Sam was the SEC player of the year and went in the last round.

Early projections had Sam as a third- or fourth-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. His performance in the NFL Scouting Combine in February 2014 was seen as disappointing, which lowered expectations about whether he would be taken in the draft. He was considered to be too small to play defensive end and too slow to play outside linebacker. He showed improvement at a public workout a month later, but his pre-draft rankings ranged from 12th to 25th among defensive ends. At the 2013 draft, 33 defensive ends were selected overall, with 23 taken in the final four rounds.

Not only was he taken in the 7th round but he was the last defensive end taken and the 8th from last overall player. There has been absolutely positively no progress with openly gay players in major American team sports. The three who came out are all out of their leagues and their plight didn't empower anyone else to follow suit, not even in major league soccer.

If he would have not had such a shitty combine then he probably would have gone higher. If Frantz comes out being a top 5 O-lineman then I highly doubt anyone passes on him in the draft. Teams live and die by their o-line, mediocre D-ends are a dime a dozen.

Did you read the quote or nah? He had a much better pro day. Even with his bad combine he was taken way behind where he was graded. It's obvious teams didn't think he was worth the trouble. That isn't even controversial, not sure why some of you are fighting it.

[420seriouscat69]

How many deserving openly gay players have qualified to go in the draft since then, MIR?

[pissclams]

the point is that sam, regardless of his pro day or his birth day or any other day, was undersized to transition from cfb to the nfl.  sec player of the year awards don’t fix that. 

frantz has the size and speed to play in the league at his current position and also will have the benefit of time continually moving forward

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I was being a bit facetious, but Michael Sam was the SEC player of the year and went in the last round.

Early projections had Sam as a third- or fourth-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. His performance in the NFL Scouting Combine in February 2014 was seen as disappointing, which lowered expectations about whether he would be taken in the draft. He was considered to be too small to play defensive end and too slow to play outside linebacker. He showed improvement at a public workout a month later, but his pre-draft rankings ranged from 12th to 25th among defensive ends. At the 2013 draft, 33 defensive ends were selected overall, with 23 taken in the final four rounds.

Not only was he taken in the 7th round but he was the last defensive end taken and the 8th from last overall player. There has been absolutely positively no progress with openly gay players in major American team sports. The three who came out are all out of their leagues and their plight didn't empower anyone else to follow suit, not even in major league soccer.

Pretty sure two different heisman finalist cats went 7th rd and undrafted respectively, probs bc bigotry

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Based on his nfl production, I'd say Sam was drafted too high

[420seriouscat69]

All I could think about was Josh Buhl when thinking of sam.

[fatdamon]

until this thread honestly forgot Frantz was gay

[420seriouscat69]

until this thread honestly forgot Frantz was gay

Yeah, the world did a great job of moving on and not giving af about it.

[bucket]

Per Pro Football Focus, Kansas State redshirt junior T Dalton Risner posted an overall grade of 91.3 during the 2017 season.

No returning offensive tackle graded out better than Risner last year. The 6-foot-5, 300-pounder has extensive starting experience at both center and right tackle. He earned first-team All-Big Ten recognition from a number of outlets -- including conference coaches, ESPN, Phil Steele and Pro Football Focus -- for his work at the latter position in 2017. Earlier this offseason, the Worldwide Leader's Mel Kiper Jr. ranked Risner as the No. 5 underclassman tackle prospect in the prospective 2019 draft pool.
Source: PFF College on Twitter Jul 4 - 12:44 PM

 

[manpow5]

Per Pro Football Focus, Kansas State redshirt junior T Dalton Risner posted an overall grade of 91.3 during the 2017 season.

No returning offensive tackle graded out better than Risner last year. The 6-foot-5, 300-pounder has extensive starting experience at both center and right tackle. He earned first-team All-Big Ten recognition from a number of outlets -- including conference coaches, ESPN, Phil Steele and Pro Football Focus -- for his work at the latter position in 2017. Earlier this offseason, the Worldwide Leader's Mel Kiper Jr. ranked Risner as the No. 5 underclassman tackle prospect in the prospective 2019 draft pool.
Source: PFF College on Twitter Jul 4 - 12:44 PM

 

Uhhh... Did we change conferences?

[schreds21]

Per Pro Football Focus, Kansas State redshirt junior T Dalton Risner posted an overall grade of 91.3 during the 2017 season.

No returning offensive tackle graded out better than Risner last year. The 6-foot-5, 300-pounder has extensive starting experience at both center and right tackle. He earned first-team All-Big Ten recognition from a number of outlets -- including conference coaches, ESPN, Phil Steele and Pro Football Focus -- for his work at the latter position in 2017. Earlier this offseason, the Worldwide Leader's Mel Kiper Jr. ranked Risner as the No. 5 underclassman tackle prospect in the prospective 2019 draft pool.
Source: PFF College on Twitter Jul 4 - 12:44 PM

 

Uhhh... Did we change conferences?

Man, the Squawks are going to be so pissed.