2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters

[DQ12]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

I suspect Snyder knew who the quarterback was at the time the play happened.  Then, over the next two hours he got it mixed up.  For the record, Sams threw a similar pass against ULL.

It wouldn't be a big deal most seasons, but we've been going through 3 weeks of wondering what on earth Snyder is thinking when every piece of information shows that Sams should be the man, and he caps it off with not knowing who was in the game.  In light of qustions about his QB decision-making (or his not being the decider), him not knowing who's who definitely falls in a noteworthy spectrum somewhere between funny and outrageous.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm wondering what the hell Snyder is doing screwing around with Waters too.  I just don't think that moment with Wyatt was significant.

It's not an easy mistake to make, tho.  I can't imagine anyone else in the world made it.

My dad made it last night.    When I corrected him, he said "oh yeah, Sams made the throw last week against Lafayette."

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It's not an easy mistake to make, tho.  I can't imagine anyone else in the world made it.

My dad made it last night.    When I corrected him, he said "oh yeah, Sams made the throw last week against Lafayette."

 

[michigancat]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

he just mixed up names, that's all. He thought he was talking about Jake.

No.  Why was he talking about the mysQB being 2-2 and proving the people who say ___ can't throw wrong if he was talking about Jake?

I didn't hear the press conference, but the context about how he can make that kind of throw and was playing so much as a result felt like a "that's why we play Jake and not Sams you idiots" moment.

[michigancat]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

he just mixed up names, that's all. He thought he was talking about Jake.

No.  Why was he talking about the mysQB being 2-2 and proving the people who say ___ can't throw wrong if he was talking about Jake?

I didn't hear the press conference, but the context about how he can make that kind of throw and was playing so much as a result felt like a "that's why we play Jake and not Sams you idiots" moment.

He also made a comment about completing 75% of his passes which also points to referring to Jake.

[michigancat]

Never mind, I'm wrong

[steve dave]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

he just mixed up names, that's all. He thought he was talking about Jake.

No.  Why was he talking about the mysQB being 2-2 and proving the people who say ___ can't throw wrong if he was talking about Jake?

I didn't hear the press conference, but the context about how he can make that kind of throw and was playing so much as a result felt like a "that's why we play Jake and not Sams you idiots" moment.

He also made a comment about completing 75% of his passes which also points to referring to Jake.

Daniel is completing exactly 75% of his passes as well (also did last season)

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Maybe this is all just a plot to get people to keep their kstateo.tv subscriptions and see what other kind of wacky things he says.  If you don't catch it on FSN and if some hero doesn't put the funny part on youtube, you have to have the premium 'scription to watch the show on the webs.

[michigancat]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

he just mixed up names, that's all. He thought he was talking about Jake.

No.  Why was he talking about the mysQB being 2-2 and proving the people who say ___ can't throw wrong if he was talking about Jake?

I didn't hear the press conference, but the context about how he can make that kind of throw and was playing so much as a result felt like a "that's why we play Jake and not Sams you idiots" moment.

He also made a comment about completing 75% of his passes which also points to referring to Jake.

Daniel is completing exactly 75% of his passes as well (also did last season)

yeah, I was sort of assuming that Bill would consider that criminally small sample size from this season statistically insignificant. (But then I relistened).

[pvegs]

Well I guess this is where we will differ because I think it is a big deal when a coach doesn't know which qb is in the game making plays when he is platooning them, bigger when he doesn't know 2-3 hours later. I'm guessing that 99% of college football fans would have an issue with the same thing, doesn't make you wrong, opinions aren't wrong, just curious.

I suspect Snyder knew who the quarterback was at the time the play happened.  Then, over the next two hours he got it mixed up.  For the record, Sams threw a similar pass against ULL.

It wouldn't be a big deal most seasons, but we've been going through 3 weeks of wondering what on earth Snyder is thinking when every piece of information shows that Sams should be the man, and he caps it off with not knowing who was in the game.  In light of qustions about his QB decision-making (or his not being the decider), him not knowing who's who definitely falls in a noteworthy spectrum somewhere between funny and outrageous.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm wondering what the hell Snyder is doing screwing around with Waters too.  I just don't think that moment with Wyatt was significant.

It's not an easy mistake to make, tho.  I can't imagine anyone else in the world made it.

My dad made it last night.    When I corrected him, he said "oh yeah, Sams made the throw last week against Lafayette."

You're wrong.  Snyder said the same thing directly after the game. Then he repeated the mistake during the taping with Wyatt. He thought Daniel was in the game and made the throw to Gronk. There are a ton of conclusions you can make, but there's no debate that Snyder thought Daniel threw the TD during the game and for at least several hours after it.

[DQ12]

Snyder said the same thing directly after the game.

I might be.  Do you have a link to that?  Was it during the press conference?

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Snyder said the same thing directly after the game.

I might be.  Do you have a link to that?  Was it during the press conference?

If it was during the part that they patch into the radio post-game, you can hear that free on kstateo.  The full video version needs the 'scription, tho.  I haven't had a chance to check either.

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Nevermind, that was easy.

“I think both of them played reasonably well. Daniel (Sams) did a nice job when he was in the ballgame. If you go back and look, I think the big play was when he threw for the touchdown which was a nice decision on his part and certainly a well thrown ball. Nobody thinks he can throw the ball, but obviously he knows how to do that. I thought Jake ran the ball fairly well as well, and it put some balance in his game. We did not collectively, over the course of the ballgame, throw the ball as well as we would like. It was probably 66, 67 percent, but hopefully we are a little bit better than that.”

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091513aag.html

[DQ12]

well i'll be damned.  maybe it is dementia.

[kslim]

Snyder said the same thing directly after the game.

I might be.  Do you have a link to that?  Was it during the press conference?

yes it was

[star seed 7]

i think he intended for sams to throw it, but some butthole kept waters in and he forgot.

[_33]

There have been tons of times where I thought someone did something but it turned out to be someone else.  This doesn't seem like a big deal.

[pvegs]

i think he intended for sams to throw it, but some butthole kept waters in and he forgot.

Absolutely.  Why Snyder didn't insist Sams stay in or realize Waters was playing is the far-reaching issue.

[Emo EMAW]

So we're going to fire Bill for this, huh?  Idiots.

[kslim]

So we're going to fire Bill for this, huh?  Idiots.

wait, what? who said to fire anybody?

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Nevermind, that was easy.

“I think both of them played reasonably well. Daniel (Sams) did a nice job when he was in the ballgame. If you go back and look, I think the big play was when he threw for the touchdown which was a nice decision on his part and certainly a well thrown ball. Nobody thinks he can throw the ball, but obviously he knows how to do that. I thought Jake ran the ball fairly well as well, and it put some balance in his game. We did not collectively, over the course of the ballgame, throw the ball as well as we would like. It was probably 66, 67 percent, but hopefully we are a little bit better than that.”

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091513aag.html

Couldn't one of the kstateo.tv interns edited that thing?

maybe john wants it in there

[kim carnes]

So we're going to fire Bill for this, huh?  Idiots.

no, he is getting fired for sucking at his job

[Katpappy]

Nevermind, that was easy.

“I think both of them played reasonably well. Daniel (Sams) did a nice job when he was in the ballgame. If you go back and look, I think the big play was when he threw for the touchdown which was a nice decision on his part and certainly a well thrown ball. Nobody thinks he can throw the ball, but obviously he knows how to do that. I thought Jake ran the ball fairly well as well, and it put some balance in his game. We did not collectively, over the course of the ballgame, throw the ball as well as we would like. It was probably 66, 67 percent, but hopefully we are a little bit better than that.”

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091513aag.html

Didn't Sams throw a TD pass to Rose?

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Didn't Sams throw a TD pass to Rose?

No, and Ts & Ps on the dementia.

[pvegs]

So we're going to fire Bill for this, huh?  Idiots.

Bill lessening his control over the team and not knowing who's playing QB are interesting topics for K-State Wildcat football fans. Maybe you should join the conversation.

[420seriouscat69]

Good grief. So many whiney bitches on this board these days.