msnbc

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.

MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points

There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants.  This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points.  Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view.  Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.

 

[ednksu]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.

MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points

There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants.  This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points.  Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view.  Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.

 

nice tapout

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Wow Edna. 

Pretty much confirming he is one of the ignorant morons that is the subject of this thread.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.

I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means.  In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.

MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points

There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants.  This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points.  Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view.  Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.

 

nice tapout

There was nothing to say. Your post pretty much ended the thread proving OP is 100% accurate.

[ednksu]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.

MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points

There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants.  This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points.  Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view.  Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.

 

nice tapout

There was nothing to say. Your post pretty much ended the thread proving OP is 100% accurate.

sorry I tried to dumb it down as much as possible for ya.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.

I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means.  In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.

They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.

[Domino]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.

I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means.  In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.

They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.

I'm sorry NK, but did you just use the phrase "free market" to describe oil? 

Oil is one of the most heavily regulated items on the planet. Since I'm sure you've heard of OPEC, you should know they can decide whether to raise or lower the supply. This also ignore the untold amount of money through subsidies oil companies have been getting for the past century in the USA, let alone in other countries. The government long ago decided that it's best interest was cheap oil.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.

I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?


Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water.  Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed.  They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.

As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.

Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.

I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means.  In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.

They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.

I'm sorry NK, but did you just use the phrase "free market" to describe oil? 

Oil is one of the most heavily regulated items on the planet. Since I'm sure you've heard of OPEC, you should know they can decide whether to raise or lower the supply. This also ignore the untold amount of money through subsidies oil companies have been getting for the past century in the USA, let alone in other countries. The government long ago decided that it's best interest was cheap oil.

If they stop selling us oil, we stop selling them food. This is not hard. Even with OPEC, it is far cheaper to purchase oil from the Middle East than it is to fund US oil exploration.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This Reuters opinion article pretty much conveys the reasons energy independence is a scam.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/10/19/energy-independence-is-a-farce/

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If you live in Kansas and aren't aware of the boom in domestic O&G production, well then you are just a rough ridin' ignorant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Energy independence may not be in the "best interest of the united states" in your opinion, but it sure as hell is possible and well on its way to becoming a reality.  I'm sorry if you prefer to read some globalwarmafoid's take on energy independence in some sloppy article that misses the point.

The so-called "subsidies" that the O&G industry receives are accelerated depreciation of O&G exploration costs and a domestic manufacturing credit available to all companies in the US.  Those "subsidies" pale in comparison to the green energy subsidies, and green energy is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (right now). 


Stop rough ridin' up this thread with your nonsense.

[ednksu]

If you live in Kansas and aren't aware of the boom in domestic O&G production, well then you are just a rough ridin' ignorant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Energy independence may not be in the "best interest of the united states" in your opinion, but it sure as hell is possible and well on its way to becoming a reality.  I'm sorry if you prefer to read some globalwarmafoid's take on energy independence in some sloppy article that misses the point.

The so-called "subsidies" that the O&G industry receives are accelerated depreciation of O&G exploration costs and a domestic manufacturing credit available to all companies in the US.  Those "subsidies" pale in comparison to the green energy subsidies, and green energy is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (right now). 


Stop rough ridin' up this thread with your nonsense.

I think my favorite part of this post you guys is when he said the amount of subsidies pales in comparison to green energy subsidies.  I mean you can't make this stuff up folks.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Domino]

You don't know what you're talking about.

If you had proof of this you would've posted at least one link to a study that shows Green Energy companies getting more subsidies than oil companies.

And even if they start getting more, that would still pale in comparison to the oil companies, who have been getting subsidies for decades before green energy companies started becoming more abundant.

I also don't get why this is a left/right issue, both sides claim to want energy independence.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Nuh uh, if you haved proofs you'd have typed em hur

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

You don't know what you're talking about.

If you had proof of this you would've posted at least one link to a study that shows Green Energy companies getting more subsidies than oil companies.

And even if they start getting more, that would still pale in comparison to the oil companies, who have been getting subsidies for decades before green energy companies started becoming more abundant.

I also don't get why this is a left/right issue, both sides claim to want energy independence.

At least oil subsidies are successful and achieve the desired results, more domestic production. Green subsidies just send more money overseas or pay green company CEOs big bonuses to take them into bankruptcy. I have no problem spending money on actual research and development, but it's stupid to invest in the production of "not ready for market" technology.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If everyone gets the subsidy, is it still a subsidy?

[Domino]

FSD is a really lame troll. I expected much better given the site. FSD is constantly on this board, with some of the best BBSers in the country, been on the site for years, and he's still terrible. Should've hung up the keyboard years ago.

As for doug, I'll start addressing him when he stops taking talking points at face value. So probably never.

[steve dave]

[star seed 7]

hey sd, do you remember that graph you posted where it made it look like stuff went up during obama, but actually they labeled it all mumped up and something went down.

that was funny.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

hey sd, do you remember that graph you posted where it made it look like stuff went up during obama, but actually they labeled it all mumped up and something went down.

that was funny.

Was that the federal deficit thing or the unemployment thing?

[star seed 7]

it was like a line that went up and down during bush and they had the numbers at all the peaks and valleys, and then spiked up huge for obama and his number at the peak was lower than bush's numbers.  it was a great graph.

[camKSU]

Great story guys... Have you met Manti Te'o's gf?

[steve dave]

[Institutional Control]

steve dave is truly fair and balanced