T Gipson. Man.

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What would be the other way of looking at it?

That JO is not a senior that has played himself out of the starting lineup and doesn't spend half the time of watching a sophomore play with more heart, defensive intensity, and offensive assertiveness than he does?

Now you've got me confused!

I hope we get the answer on tomorrow night's #oscar radio show*!

*Which is interfering with the premier of EMAW Bachelor

[MakeItRain]

If I were to look at it differently I'd start by not looking at it as an either or proposition.  If I couldn't wrap my hands around that I'd go with they are two completely different players and the demands of this offense plays to the strengths of one guy more than the other guy.

I could see how it would be easy and ironic for someone to play the lazy card though.

[catzacker]

yeah, JO had twice the production and minutes last year under a coach who demanded effort, intensity, and hustle to play, so I could see where people would think that's the problem this year.

[kim carnes]

yeah, JO had twice the production and minutes last year under a coach who demanded effort, intensity, and hustle to play, so I could see where people would think that's the problem this year.

oscar doesn't demand effort?

[catzacker]

yeah, JO had twice the production and minutes last year under a coach who demanded effort, intensity, and hustle to play, so I could see where people would think that's the problem this year.

oscar doesn't demand effort?

if you've watched our defense in transition, no.  he demands (or makes it more complicated than it should be) that JO screen his motherfuckng ass off though.

[kso_FAN]

If I were to look at it differently I'd start by not looking at it as an either or proposition.  If I couldn't wrap my hands around that I'd go with they are two completely different players and the demands of this offense plays to the strengths of one guy more than the other guy.

I could see how it would be easy and ironic for someone to play the lazy card though.

Yeah, it's hard to make a comparison, they just have very different bodies and skills.

I do like that for the first time since Curt, Gip is getting close to being a big we can dump the ball to if/when we need a basket. Now, he is still limited and had to catch at the correct spot and use his body correctly, but one on one he can score with his little hook shot somewhat consistently.

[kim carnes]

If I were to look at it differently I'd start by not looking at it as an either or proposition.  If I couldn't wrap my hands around that I'd go with they are two completely different players and the demands of this offense plays to the strengths of one guy more than the other guy.

I could see how it would be easy and ironic for someone to play the lazy card though.

Their minutes are interchangeable.  That is the point he is trying to make.  Far be it from your dumbass to understand that.

[wabash909]

If I were to look at it differently I'd start by not looking at it as an either or proposition.  If I couldn't wrap my hands around that I'd go with they are two completely different players and the demands of this offense plays to the strengths of one guy more than the other guy.

I could see how it would be easy and ironic for someone to play the lazy card though.

JO absolutely is lazy.  Lazy on both ends of the court.  Which is why he doesn't start and has been a complete non-factor this season outside of one good effort against Florida.

This has nothing to do with a better matchup against Okie State Weber was trying to exploit.  He sat because of shitty defense, where he got beaten to the basket and made dumb fouls where he tried to settle for a block instead of getting in position.

But this is JO.  It's just nice to see a guy like Gipson, step up in a big time game and do all the things he doesn't do in the low post for us.  Hopefully he keeps up the progress.

[wabash909]

And damn, I love this.

[MakeItRain]

You're right JO is unmotivated and/or lazy at times, no one is doubting that.  You're also right about it not being a matchup against OSU that oscar tried to exploit.  You hinted that JO is losing playing time to Gip because of effort and that's what I will continue to disagree with.

First of all even lazy JO is a better defender than Gip.  When JO is on the floor and not in foul trouble he is a difference maker.  I don't think I will ever think of Gip as an elite defender.  JO is not losing playing time because of the defensive end, anyone who thinks so is a fool including oscar Weber if this is his mindset.

Now offensively oscar needs someone who is effective with his back to the basket, that isn't JO it never will be JO and it has nothing to do with effort.  As I've mentioned a half dozen times this year, JO was effective last year because the pinch post allowed him to play the high post, he can't do this anymore.  In this offense you need to either be able to play back to the basket or hit a 15-17 foot jumpshot, neither are strengths of JO.

Yes, Gip has played well and he plays hard.  Yes JO has stretches of laziness.  Your talking point of JO getting some of Gip's minutes if he played harder is wrong.

[catzacker]

MIR, i think it's really too much to expect a coach to try to extract the talent he has on his roster by, let's say, tweaking his offense.  That's just batshit crazy.  I mean, what coach would change his offense, especially now that we're in season. 

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

MIR, i think it's really too much to expect a coach to try to extract the talent he has on his roster by, let's say, tweaking his offense.  That's just batshit crazy.  I mean, what coach would change his offense, especially now that we're in season.

I think I remember Frank changing up the offense to get more movement. 

[kim carnes]

MIR, i think it's really too much to expect a coach to try to extract the talent he has on his roster by, let's say, tweaking his offense.  That's just batshit crazy.  I mean, what coach would change his offense, especially now that we're in season.

I think I remember Frank changing up the offense to get more movement. 

oh really?

[kso_FAN]

I think oscar's "commitment" to his offense is overplayed by goEMAW. He implements ball screens and its been plenty effective at creating good shots since the Gonzaga game.

JMHO

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A few of us have pushed this unorthodox theory before, and I still believe you can play Gip and JO together as "power forward" and "center."  If McG keeps shooting the covers off balls from deep, that eliminates #oscar's concern of having too much cat bulk down in the paint and making it impossible for Rod to operate "inside the arc."

[michigancat]

JO was a difference maker against OSU. The only problem was that the difference favored OSU.

[kso_FAN]

A few of us have pushed this unorthodox theory before, and I still believe you can play Gip and JO together as "power forward" and "center."  If McG keeps shooting the covers off balls from deep, that eliminates #oscar's concern of having too much cat bulk down in the paint and making it impossible for Rod to operate "inside the arc."

He's going to have to against some teams.

It's pretty much evolved to 80 minutes available for Gip, JO, and Nino to split. Maybe DJamer and Diaz get a few scraps, occasionally Shane. Will be interesting to see if it evolves further as the season goes through conference play.

[CNS]

The only reason he doesn't play gip and jo at 5 & 4 is because Nino can't be a productive 3, right?

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[kso_FAN]

The only reason he doesn't play gip and jo at 5 & 4 is because Nino can't be a productive 3, right?

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Nino can't play 3 and Rod is going to play 35+ at the 3 anyway. And Rod can't play 2.

[CNS]

That was my point.

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[pissclams]

I think oscar's "commitment" to his offense is overplayed by goEMAW. He implements ball screens and its been plenty effective at creating good shots since the Gonzaga game.

JMHO

we knew we would be having this conversation. 

[MakeItRain]

I think oscar's "commitment" to his offense is overplayed by goEMAW. He implements ball screens and its been plenty effective at creating good shots since the Gonzaga game.

JMHO

we knew we would be having this conversation.

There was one reference to oscar's commitment to his offense. Before we get too off the rails with a strawman, I think zackers larger point is that we have a lot more bigs who can give productive minutes but oscar hasn't and won't play 2 of them together.

[Stevesie60]

I want Rod to play the 2 so bad. Can you imagine Angle, Rod, Nino (sorry dorks), Gip and JO? Man, we'd be undefeated.

[Mr Bread]

I think oscar's "commitment" to his offense is overplayed by goEMAW. He implements ball screens and its been plenty effective at creating good shots since the Gonzaga game.

JMHO

we knew we would be having this conversation.

Nostraclamus

[kso_FAN]

I want Rod to play the 2 so bad. Can you imagine Angle, Rod, Nino (sorry dorks), Gip and JO? Man, we'd be undefeated.

We wouldn't.