Question about Ell Roberson "incident"

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I just received my special bowl edition of the Powercat Illustrated magazine, and in an article by Tyler Dreiling, he says that Ell was suspended for the first quarter of that Fiesta Bowl.  I'm pretty sure he started and any number of box scores and things recapping the game seem to confirm. 

What's the deal?

[KazzuKhatz]

Yeah he definitely started.

[Pendergast]

Didn't start, sat out one or two series I thought, but I was pretty young.

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Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

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Didn't start, sat out one or two series I thought, but I was pretty young.

Hmmm... now we're getting somewhere.  You didn't possibly source Tyler Dreiling's Powercat Illustrated article based on your memory and maybe your mind recalled the event as something in between a 1-quarter suspension or none, and Dreiling possibly misunderstood you?

[yosh]

To be fair, his first quarter play was forgetable.

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To be fair, his first quarter play was forgetable.

Yeah, it could be that based on his performance while playing the game, that Tyler Dreiling has retroactively declared him "suspended."  It's certainly one of those gray factual areas.

[Pendergast]

eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

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eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

[8manpick]

Kansas State at 14:54   
1st and 10 at KSU 25   Darren Sproles (KSU) rushed right side for 3 yards.   
2nd and 7 at KSU 28   Ell Roberson (KSU) rushed up the middle for 2 yards.       
3rd and 5 at KSU 30   Ell Roberson (KSU) pass incomplete to the right side.       
4th and 5 at KSU 30   Punt by Jared Brite (KSU) returned 17 yards by Michael Jenkins (OSU) to the Buckeyes 32.       

First drive of the game.

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Kansas State at 14:54   
1st and 10 at KSU 25   Darren Sproles (KSU) rushed right side for 3 yards.   
2nd and 7 at KSU 28   Ell Roberson (KSU) rushed up the middle for 2 yards.       
3rd and 5 at KSU 30   Ell Roberson (KSU) pass incomplete to the right side.       
4th and 5 at KSU 30   Punt by Jared Brite (KSU) returned 17 yards by Michael Jenkins (OSU) to the Buckeyes 32.       

First drive of the game.

ESPN bias.

[Pendergast]

eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.

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eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.

Let's start with this - how many football national championships did K-State win in Snyder's first stint at coach?

[Pendergast]

eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.

Let's start with this - how many football national championships did K-State win in Snyder's first stint at coach?

2, 1998 & 2003

Wait, is this normal style, or aTm style?

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Wait, is this normal style, or aTm style?

It's your story.

[lopakman]

Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

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Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.

[one time gella]

He was given the choice to sit the 1st quarter or start, but if he started, he lost his scholly, bowl ring and had to walk home from AZ...
That was a long ass walk home and we probably would have been better off if he did sit out the 1st qtr.

[chum1]

I think Fitz reported at the time that Ell would sit out the first quarter of the game.  So, he's probably just stood by his source on that info all this time, which has resulted in the present confusion.

I miss the days when Fitz would make mistake after mistake after mistake.

[star seed 7]

Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.

who would he say he was though?

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Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.

who would he say he was though?

"I'm not James McGill."

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I think Fitz reported at the time that Ell would sit out the first quarter of the game.  So, he's probably just stood by his source on that info all this time, which has resulted in the present confusion.

I miss the days when Fitz would make mistake after mistake after mistake.

Never again will I accuse Fitz of sitting on info.

[wabash909]

The Ghosts of Arizona!

[WillieWatanabe]

what did tyler say when confronted on twitter?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I thought he sat out the first series and threw an INT on our own 10 on the second.