So Sprads

[steve dave]

Will has been a definite positive this season

[kim carnes]

are you guys still mad that Will helped get frank fired?

[EMAWzified]

Yeah, I'll never forgot where I was when I heard that Frank had been fired because of Sprads' accusations of sexual advances.

[MakeItRain]

You can play with any stat you want to, bottom line is that any program should expect better production at the starting 2, one in his third year that has played the ridiculous amount of minutes Will has played in his career.  Yosh and _FAN are you too arguing that over his career Will hasn't been a disappointment?  If so you are clearly judging him based on his pedestrian performance instead of what should be expected of him at this point. My goodness he's averaged more MPG over his career than Rodney and last nights 17 point game was far and away the best of his career

MIR, it's ridiculous that he's had to play so many minutes thus far.  When Spradling was recruited, I thought he would not play at all as a freshman, then be an off the bench role player for two years, and probably start as a senior.  Never would I have guess he would play so many minutes as an underclassman.  If you'd have told me he would need to start as an underclassman, I would say that he will probably struggle, so, no, he hasn't dissappointed.  He has struggled.  That said, he is, according to two head coaches, the best option we have, and not the piece of garbage this board makes him out to be.  I call it like it is.  I'm not going to inflate the guy like the racist tucks and Bob Knight do, but if you think he's the worst player on the team, or doesn't belong in division one, like I hear all the time, then you're just bitter or stupid.  He's a guy who had too much asked of him too soon, and became a scapegoat.  Not his fault he was the best option.  When it's all said and done, he won't have All-American numbers, but he'll have put up a solid career.

Will Spradling is Frank Martin's biggest failure, I've said that for 2 years.  Will is a D1 player, he should have never been on this roster.  I'm assuming he was recruited for the ideal role of the shooter off of the bench and frankly he never has been that, or equipped to do so.  I think we're closer to agreeing to disagreeing although I don't agree that he will finish up with a solid career.  At this point for me he is projecting worse than Clent and Lance Harris.  Pete's Schwartzendruber compro is a good one IMO, a D1 player for sure but not one who should be getting anywhere near 30 mpg on a team that expects to play for anything significant.

Frank's failure is not recruiting Will, it's that he failed to do any better and chased off more talented guys.  Will is the byproduct of several failures....consistent failure by Frank.  See below for comparison to the names mentioned.  I dissagree that he's tracking below any of them.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?aaron-swartzendruber=career&add=lance-harris&clent-stewart=career&i=1&lance-harris=career&p1=will-spradling&p2=clent-stewart&p3=aaron-swartzendruber&will-spradling=career

Harris starting next to ART & McGruder would be amazing.

[kougar24]

Will has been a definite positive this season week.

[michigancat]

You can play with any stat you want to, bottom line is that any program should expect better production at the starting 2, one in his third year that has played the ridiculous amount of minutes Will has played in his career.  Yosh and _FAN are you too arguing that over his career Will hasn't been a disappointment?  If so you are clearly judging him based on his pedestrian performance instead of what should be expected of him at this point. My goodness he's averaged more MPG over his career than Rodney and last nights 17 point game was far and away the best of his career

MIR, it's ridiculous that he's had to play so many minutes thus far.  When Spradling was recruited, I thought he would not play at all as a freshman, then be an off the bench role player for two years, and probably start as a senior.  Never would I have guess he would play so many minutes as an underclassman.  If you'd have told me he would need to start as an underclassman, I would say that he will probably struggle, so, no, he hasn't dissappointed.  He has struggled.  That said, he is, according to two head coaches, the best option we have, and not the piece of garbage this board makes him out to be.  I call it like it is.  I'm not going to inflate the guy like the racist tucks and Bob Knight do, but if you think he's the worst player on the team, or doesn't belong in division one, like I hear all the time, then you're just bitter or stupid.  He's a guy who had too much asked of him too soon, and became a scapegoat.  Not his fault he was the best option.  When it's all said and done, he won't have All-American numbers, but he'll have put up a solid career.

Will Spradling is Frank Martin's biggest failure, I've said that for 2 years.  Will is a D1 player, he should have never been on this roster.  I'm assuming he was recruited for the ideal role of the shooter off of the bench and frankly he never has been that, or equipped to do so.  I think we're closer to agreeing to disagreeing although I don't agree that he will finish up with a solid career.  At this point for me he is projecting worse than Clent and Lance Harris.  Pete's Schwartzendruber compro is a good one IMO, a D1 player for sure but not one who should be getting anywhere near 30 mpg on a team that expects to play for anything significant.

Frank's failure is not recruiting Will, it's that he failed to do any better and chased off more talented guys.  Will is the byproduct of several failures....consistent failure by Frank.  See below for comparison to the names mentioned.  I dissagree that he's tracking below any of them.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?aaron-swartzendruber=career&add=lance-harris&clent-stewart=career&i=1&lance-harris=career&p1=will-spradling&p2=clent-stewart&p3=aaron-swartzendruber&will-spradling=career

Harris starting next to ART & McGruder would be amazing.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?aaron-swartzendruber=career&add=nick-russell&clent-stewart=career&i=1&lance-harris=career&p1=will-spradling&p2=clent-stewart&p3=aaron-swartzendruber&p4=lance-harris&will-spradling=career

[MakeItRain]

You can play with any stat you want to, bottom line is that any program should expect better production at the starting 2, one in his third year that has played the ridiculous amount of minutes Will has played in his career.  Yosh and _FAN are you too arguing that over his career Will hasn't been a disappointment?  If so you are clearly judging him based on his pedestrian performance instead of what should be expected of him at this point. My goodness he's averaged more MPG over his career than Rodney and last nights 17 point game was far and away the best of his career

MIR, it's ridiculous that he's had to play so many minutes thus far.  When Spradling was recruited, I thought he would not play at all as a freshman, then be an off the bench role player for two years, and probably start as a senior.  Never would I have guess he would play so many minutes as an underclassman.  If you'd have told me he would need to start as an underclassman, I would say that he will probably struggle, so, no, he hasn't dissappointed.  He has struggled.  That said, he is, according to two head coaches, the best option we have, and not the piece of garbage this board makes him out to be.  I call it like it is.  I'm not going to inflate the guy like the racist tucks and Bob Knight do, but if you think he's the worst player on the team, or doesn't belong in division one, like I hear all the time, then you're just bitter or stupid.  He's a guy who had too much asked of him too soon, and became a scapegoat.  Not his fault he was the best option.  When it's all said and done, he won't have All-American numbers, but he'll have put up a solid career.

Will Spradling is Frank Martin's biggest failure, I've said that for 2 years.  Will is a D1 player, he should have never been on this roster.  I'm assuming he was recruited for the ideal role of the shooter off of the bench and frankly he never has been that, or equipped to do so.  I think we're closer to agreeing to disagreeing although I don't agree that he will finish up with a solid career.  At this point for me he is projecting worse than Clent and Lance Harris.  Pete's Schwartzendruber compro is a good one IMO, a D1 player for sure but not one who should be getting anywhere near 30 mpg on a team that expects to play for anything significant.

Frank's failure is not recruiting Will, it's that he failed to do any better and chased off more talented guys.  Will is the byproduct of several failures....consistent failure by Frank.  See below for comparison to the names mentioned.  I dissagree that he's tracking below any of them.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?aaron-swartzendruber=career&add=lance-harris&clent-stewart=career&i=1&lance-harris=career&p1=will-spradling&p2=clent-stewart&p3=aaron-swartzendruber&will-spradling=career

Harris starting next to ART & McGruder would be amazing.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?aaron-swartzendruber=career&add=nick-russell&clent-stewart=career&i=1&lance-harris=career&p1=will-spradling&p2=clent-stewart&p3=aaron-swartzendruber&p4=lance-harris&will-spradling=career

Damn Frank   he's having a very productive season but those turnovers, woof

36mpg

[bones129]

Yeah, I'll never forgot where I was when I heard that Frank had been fired because of Sprads' accusations of sexual advances.

 

[Dugout DickStone]

So, I bet he had killer stats last night right?

[EMAWzified]

2.0 conference sux (I'm giving him a pass on his freshman year).

[Pendergast]

Not a good game, but Angel going brain dead put him at the point more than usual I think.

[kso_FAN]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

[kougar24]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

Strange, he's always been so awesome in conference play.

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

Why does Will have to play? Maybe as a sub for Angel but him continuing to get 35 minutes a game is ridiculous. He does nothing.

[kso_FAN]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

Why does Will have to play? Maybe as a sub for Angel but him continuing to get 35 minutes a game is ridiculous. He does nothing.

Will's worth is similar to Zimm's in football. Many won't agree, but I don't care. Its pretty accurate, there is a reason coaches (2 now) continue to play him through awful shooting days like he had today.

[Stevesie60]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

Why does Will have to play? Maybe as a sub for Angel but him continuing to get 35 minutes a game is ridiculous. He does nothing.

Will's worth is similar to Zimm's in football. Many won't agree, but I don't care. Its pretty accurate, there is a reason coaches (2 now) continue to play him through awful shooting days like he had today.

I think I know what you're saying, but Will doesn't do anything equivalent to averaging almost 1TO per game in football.

[kso_FAN]

Well no, he's not an All league type player. And I wish that he could either hit shots or that we had a more talented player that did similar things, but that's not the case.

[Trim]

Sprads waving teammates through when he's running to set a poor screen annoys the hell out of me.

[kso_FAN]

Sprads not hitting shots really annoys me.

[kim carnes]

Sprads not hitting shots really annoys me.

yeah.

[Dugout DickStone]

HE can shoot FT's.  Why isn't he trying to draw a F ton of fouls?

[Boondock Poonhound]

Sprads not hitting shots really annoys me.

When he arrived, Frank said he could "shoot the cover off" the ball, and I fell into the belief he was our driveway shooter ala Ried, or Heslep. I expect it.

[kim carnes]

Sprads not hitting shots really annoys me.

When he arrived, Frank said he could "shoot the cover off" the ball, and I fell into the belief he was our driveway shooter ala Ried, or Heslep. I expect it.

he said that about omari

[SdK]

Sprads not hitting shots really annoys me.

When he arrived, Frank said he could "shoot the cover off" the ball, and I fell into the belief he was our driveway shooter ala Ried, or Heslep. I expect it.

he said that about omari

explains his air balls

[MakeItRain]

Will has to play, but he has to make open shots. Disappointing game from him.

Why does Will have to play? Maybe as a sub for Angel but him continuing to get 35 minutes a game is ridiculous. He does nothing.

Will's worth is similar to Zimm's in football. Many won't agree, but I don't care. Its pretty accurate, there is a reason coaches (2 now) continue to play him through awful shooting days like he had today.

Absurd and shameful, you've already dissected this yourself.  Also Will is playing as many minutes simply because both coaches failed at recruiting better options and you know that. If we had any of the guards we have targeted the last two years; Gray, Smart, or Forte, Will's minutes would be greatly reduced.  He is without a doubt in the bottom 1/3 of Big 12 starting guards.  Saying anything positive about him at this point reeks of stubbornness.

Last year we had a littany of excuses; mean coach, out of position, injured.  Can we after 2 1/2 years finally say he just stinks?  Even the things he does well he's average at best but we pat him on the head because he's so bad.  I was so thrilled to see him throw that lob today, that should be expected instead he gets brownie points because of his "growth," so tired of it.