Author Topic: Waters/IWCC videos  (Read 13224 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline J

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1150
  • Just call me "Hollywood"
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2012, 05:14:10 PM »

Offline goldenticket

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 669
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2012, 05:47:49 PM »
So Manziel is really 5'10

yeah scott van pelt met him for some video segment late in the year and he was saying on his radio show how short he is. SVP said he was 5'10 at best

Offline Gooch

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 9491
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2012, 06:44:30 PM »
To bad his mug shot does not have the height lines behind him or we could easily end this debate.

Offline Ira Hayes

  • Created #RayRayForAD
  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1985
  • The Marine that went to war.
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2012, 12:37:35 AM »
The pic of the 3 heisman finalists is a little misleading because Johnny is standing a little being the other 2.  I saw another pic where all 3 were shoulder to shoulder and the top of Johnnys head was same height as Klein's eyes.  By that pic i would say the CK is 6'5, Teo was 6'2 and Manziel was 6'0.   

To me Sams looks more like 6'1 instead of 6'2.    Waters is listed at 6'2 but i wonder if he too is more like 6'1.   They were saying he was 5'11 when he left HS and grew a little bit

I was looking at eyeballs and both Sams and Te'o's eyeballs are aligned with Collin's mouth and they are both standing even with him. They appear to be the exact same height.

I couldn't find a pic of Manziel right next to him. I think he's maybe 6'0". Probably 5'11"+. 5'10" is just being mean, but there is no way he is 6'1".

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that Sams is bigger than Manziel and has at least equal quickness, speed, and arm strength. I think that is obvious. I think there is a 2" difference in height and around 15 lbs of muscle. If Sams is only 205, there is no way Manziel weighs 200.

Offline deputy dawg

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 4210
  • Wait, wait....what?
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2012, 06:16:13 AM »
So Manziel is really 5'10

yeah scott van pelt met him for some video segment late in the year and he was saying on his radio show how short he is. SVP said he was 5'10 at best

Is that tall enough to ride the adult rides at Six Flags over Texas?

Offline fr@ck me

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 480
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2012, 11:28:56 AM »
#Life is built like a brick wall.

Also, we need to go with whoever can throw constant 60yrd bombs to Baby Blockett and hit him in full stride.  We could run this play ever single time from a hurry up offense and no one could do anything about it.

Our best chance for 60 yard bombs is Sams.  He has a good arm, mechanics and spiral.  Plus with his speed safeties will be playing up to help with our run first offense and trying to stop both Huebert and Sams.  Then play action on 1st down and throw it over the top just like we use to try and do all the time with Ell.

Offline Ira Hayes

  • Created #RayRayForAD
  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1985
  • The Marine that went to war.
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2013, 03:14:13 PM »
Per the NFL combine: Klein is 6'5". But Te'o is only 6'1".

Johnny Football is 5'10". Maybe.

Offline Ira Hayes

  • Created #RayRayForAD
  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1985
  • The Marine that went to war.
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2013, 03:29:09 PM »
Manti Te'o was a 5 star recruit out of high school who was 6'2" tall and ran a 4.6 40.

After four years of college he is now 6'1" and runs a 4.8

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Manti-Te'o-69245

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 37993
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2013, 03:39:20 PM »
Manti Te'o was a 5 star recruit out of high school who was 6'2" tall and ran a 4.6 40.

After four years of college he is now 6'1" and runs a 4.8

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Manti-Te'o-69245

He was probably spending too much time with his smoking hot girlfriend and not working out enough.

Offline Ira Hayes

  • Created #RayRayForAD
  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1985
  • The Marine that went to war.
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2013, 03:46:29 PM »
Te'o was considered the #2 ILB prospect in 2009 behind Vontaze Burfict. Vontaze was 6'2" 244lbs and ran a 4.64 40 coming out of high school on his way to Arizona State.

After declaring early for the draft last year, the 6'1" 248lb Burfict ran a 5.09 at last year's NFL combine and was not drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/vontaze-burfict?id=2533058

Offline Dugout DickStone

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 53886
  • BSPAC
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2013, 04:56:08 PM »
Te'o was considered the #2 ILB prospect in 2009 behind Vontaze Burfict. Vontaze was 6'2" 244lbs and ran a 4.64 40 coming out of high school on his way to Arizona State.

After declaring early for the draft last year, the 6'1" 248lb Burfict ran a 5.09 at last year's NFL combine and was not drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/vontaze-burfict?id=2533058

Did the Chiefs grab him?

HAY-OH!!

Offline SwiftCat

  • #LIFE
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 3618
  • Depth Charge
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2013, 05:20:15 PM »
Why are you post that stuff in this thread?

Offline LickNeckey

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 7056
  • #fakeposts
    • View Profile
Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2013, 05:44:06 PM »
Burfict ended up starting in Cincy.

He also teamed up with Eman to make a very productive undrafted LB corps.

Offline Katpappy

  • I got my eye on you
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 13335
  • Party on gE
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2013, 06:50:59 PM »
Waters looks great.  I agree with the comparisons to Reesing or a Heupel that can run.  Maybe Seth Doege, too? All of those were very good QBs. Would take any of them.

But, from what we've seen, Sams looks like a bigger, stronger Johnny Manziel.

i don't really see the bigger/stronger manziel comparo

honestly, sams reminds me of an african american voltron
No opposable? thumbs for the Voltron mechatronic exoskeleton, huh? Before you form the head, maybe you should ...
I looked it up on Google.  :sdeek:
Hot time in Kat town tonight.

Offline Ira Hayes

  • Created #RayRayForAD
  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1985
  • The Marine that went to war.
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2013, 04:27:07 PM »
Burfict ended up starting in Cincy.

He also teamed up with Eman to make a very productive undrafted LB corps.

Didn't claim that the kid couldn't play. The point was that they lied about speed and height. Players don't get shorter and slower in college.

Offline steve dave

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 88504
  • Romantic Fist Attachment
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2013, 03:01:10 PM »
Oh so now everyone agrees with what I said yesterday?  :shakesfist:

Waters will be drafted in two years.

 :lol:

I was looking back for the quotes from dumbasses like kitchen and others who said waters would be drafted and this is the only one I could find.

Offline troubledscribe

  • Katpak'r
  • ***
  • Posts: 1674
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2013, 03:09:30 PM »
All I can say is wow, much better runner than I thought. Also makes great decisions and throws a beauty of a ball.



Watching this for the first time and all I can say is wow... Everyone looks like they are playing at half-speed. Dull and boring highlight video against absolute garbage competition. It is no wonder H3O freaks out everytime a team sends a blitz at him off the edge.

Offline hatingfrancisco

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 4518
    • View Profile
    • Tweet Tweet
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2013, 03:16:39 PM »
All I can say is wow, much better runner than I thought. Also makes great decisions and throws a beauty of a ball.



 :love:

Oh so now everyone agrees with what I said yesterday?  :shakesfist:

Waters will be drafted in two years.

Even I don't think this will happen.  But he will probably be a Heisman contender. 


Offline CNS

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38058
  • I'm Athletes
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2013, 03:17:59 PM »
 :lol:

Like, really  :lol:

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 37993
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2013, 03:22:40 PM »
That guy is an exciting passer.  He does throw flat-footed, though, like Reesing did when he first played at ku.  Once Reesing got his footwork down, he was a lot less vulnerable to blind-side rushes, and became one of the more elusive QB's we've seen in the last 10 years.  It seems like the footwork can be taught, and Waters will be a much better QB than he shows in these vids.  Hard for me to understand the respects here that "don't see it".

Man, looks like deputy dawg really knows his stuff.  Still no reason to insult those who are less football "guru-ish".

 :D

Offline WildcatNation

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 800
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2013, 04:01:44 PM »
Oh so now everyone agrees with what I said yesterday?  :shakesfist:

Waters will be drafted in two years.

 :lol:

I was looking back for the quotes from dumbasses like kitchen and others who said waters would be drafted and this is the only one I could find.

Still stand behind what I said!

Offline kslim

  • PCKK7DC Survivor
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *******
  • Posts: 10531
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2013, 04:02:18 PM »
does canada have a draft?

Offline CNS

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38058
  • I'm Athletes
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2013, 04:04:26 PM »
Oh so now everyone agrees with what I said yesterday?  :shakesfist:

Waters will be drafted in two years.

 :lol:

I was looking back for the quotes from dumbasses like kitchen and others who said waters would be drafted and this is the only one I could find.

Still stand behind what I said!

Did you watch football this year?

Offline hatingfrancisco

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 4518
    • View Profile
    • Tweet Tweet
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2013, 04:05:37 PM »
Still stand behind what I said!

Good for you.  eff the rest of these haters.


Offline CNS

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38058
  • I'm Athletes
    • View Profile
Re: Waters/IWCC videos
« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2013, 04:07:16 PM »
"eff the rest of these haters"
        - Hatingfrancis