Don't blame oscar for Rodney

[ChiComCat]

Cartier is pretty much Rodney.  oscar/Wooly did not know how to use either

[EMAWesome]

Cartier is pretty much Rodney.  oscar/Wooly did not know how to use either

They are pretty much the same player...but Cartier finding some NBA success as a journeyman isn't surprising to me...Rodney playing in the league for 1 minute would be a shock to me

[kso_FAN]

Angel is better than any Wooly PG and this team is deeper than any Wooly team.

I'm not melting down like most, but I won't give oscar that excuse.

[EMAWesome]

Angel is better than any Wooly PG and this team is deeper than any Wooly team.

I'm not melting down like most, but I won't give oscar that excuse.

This may be my most unpopular post ever (that's saying something) but at this point angel is overrated as hell. He can't shoot the 3 good enough to justify the # of shots he takes, he plays a little loose and he isn't able or willing to push the tempo like Denis did back in the day to get the transition buckets to make up for his half court mistakes.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Angel is better than any Wooly PG and this team is deeper than any Wooly team.

I'm not melting down like most, but I won't give oscar that excuse.

This may be my most unpopular post ever (that's saying something) but at this point angel is overrated as hell. He can't shoot the 3 good enough to justify the # of shots he takes, he plays a little loose and he isn't able or willing to push the tempo like Denis did back in the day to get the transition buckets to make up for his half court mistakes.

Don't know about Angel being overrated.  Yeah, we had approximately zero transition baskets in the last 2 games from Angel pushing it like Denis could.  I wouldn't call him electrifying on offense or defense, but he's very capable and he's also only a sophomore.

[MakeItRain]

Angel is better than any Wooly PG and this team is deeper than any Wooly team.

I'm not melting down like most, but I won't give oscar that excuse.

This may be my most unpopular post ever (that's saying something) but at this point angel is overrated as hell. He can't shoot the 3 good enough to justify the # of shots he takes, he plays a little loose and he isn't able or willing to push the tempo like Denis did back in the day to get the transition buckets to make up for his half court mistakes.

It's unpopular because its wrong not edgy.  First of all he doesn't push the ball because it seems clear that he's been instructed not to.  He did it as a true freshman, pretty sure he's didn't forget.  Secondly, right now he's our best scoring threat, not sure who he should be deferring to, I'd love for you to tell us.  Despite being our best scoring threat he's averaging nearly 5 assists a game.

[Lrrrrman]

Can someone fill me in on why everyone hates oscar? Shouldn't we, you know, give him a chance?

He wears a pirate hat and is emotionally abusive.

I blame Rodney for oscar, I'll figure out the details later.

[Willesgirl]

You guys are being really pessimistic, our basketball team's ONLY issue is that we aren't very good at basketball. Once we get over that hump we will be flooded with wins.

 

[IlliniTillIDie]

oscar is the reason his players play bad.  Brandon Paul was awful last year.  Awful shot selection.  Awful passer.  It is oscar's coaching and his offense.  oscar coaches scared, he wants his kids to play like it is the 1950s.  That is why his players can't relax and just play.  How he made an NCAa final is beyond me.  Those guys must have just learned to tune him out.

Just don't make the mistake of piling on the players.  oscar blamed them his entire time at Illinois.  He was the reason.  He was the only reason.

[cfbandyman]

I'm not willing to give up on this team or Rodney, not yet, not even close. I like how Rodney finally turned in on a bit towards the end of the game. Do I believe it's oscar's fault? Partially, but only cause it takes a little time to get used to a new coach and system. However, it isn't oscar's fault that Rodney couldn't hit the board side of a barn early in the game, even on short shots that he made with regularity last season. Really, everyone needs to tone it down, losing isn't acceptable but you might as well get your lumps out of the way early. The important thing is how this teams responds. And that is both on oscar and McGruder. oscar to coach and build the team, and McGruder to become Pullen and demand his team (and himself) to do better.

[Stevesie60]

Considering how uppity the entire team seems on twitter, I'm not sure they care about what happened yesterday. Why would they?

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

I just didn't see any "good flashes" from this team yesterday. Nothing that said, "This team has potential."

[Andy]

supposedly the word is rodney is not getting this offense at all, struggling more than anyone.  its actually heavily designed for him to get shots but he's just not getting it done.  perhaps the end of the mich game it clicked more. 

[felix rex]

How many do we lose by at ku? 50

That will be the fault of us bad fans. On the record.

[bunter]

So yes. Under oscar, McGruder seems softer. But Henriquez seems way less awkward. He almost looks graceful.

If you were at the game,any props. Otherwise did you not hear Dakich railing in JO for not having passed ONCE this season? And then at one point correctly predicting he wouldn't pass whenever he was fed the ball? That very well may be coaching, but either way JO 

[ChiComCat]

How many do we lose by at ku? 50

That will be the fault of us bad fans. On the record.

If nobody is in Bram to see it, did they really beat US by 50 or just some team representing our university

[michigancat]

I wish Rod would have told Chet that he wouldn't play for oscar.

[Trim]

I wish Rod would have told Chet that he wouldn't play for oscar.

Rod would've been the hero of EMAW heroes.

[CNS]

I hope Illinois wins the NC so that I can have that talking point. 

Mr. Bread, what are my chances here?  Have not watched a game.

[AppleJack]

I would like to apologize to everyone for starting this thread. I am not very smart sometimes. Still friends?

[treysolid]

why is everyone under the impression that Rod is an amazing basketball player? he's never been dominant at any level, not even back in high school.

[Skipper44]

why is everyone under the impression that Rod is an amazing basketball player? he's never been dominant at any level, not even back in high school.

what were you watching during conference play last year?  When he was healthy Rod was great

[treysolid]

why is everyone under the impression that Rod is an amazing basketball player? he's never been dominant at any level, not even back in high school.

what were you watching during conference play last year?  When he was healthy Rod was great

i was watching the same team you were. he can perform really well, but he's never sustained it for long periods of time (a full season). Rod's not "the guy". never has been. and great? no, he's never been great. Beasley was great. Pullen was great. Rodney is OK. you can delude yourself into thinking that oscar ruined Rodney but the fact is that Rodney was never a great commodity to begin with.

[MakeItRain]

why is everyone under the impression that Rod is an amazing basketball player? he's never been dominant at any level, not even back in high school.

what were you watching during conference play last year?  When he was healthy Rod was great

i was watching the same team you were. he can perform really well, but he's never sustained it for long periods of time (a full season). Rod's not "the guy". never has been. and great? no, he's never been great. Beasley was great. Pullen was great. Rodney is OK. you can delude yourself into thinking that oscar ruined Rodney but the fact is that Rodney was never a great commodity to begin with.

Who thought Rodney was Beasley or Pullen?  God rough ridin' damn guy, what a horrifically stupid strawman-y talking point.  Start over and try again.

[chum1]

why is everyone under the impression that Rod is an amazing basketball player? he's never been dominant at any level, not even back in high school.

Yep.  No fire.