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Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« on: November 18, 2012, 10:04:01 AM »
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2012, 10:04:52 AM »
Typical snyder, completely shits the bed the biggest moments.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 10:06:47 AM »
I don't think there are any plays that would have saved the players from getting their asses kicked by Baylor's players.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2012, 10:09:01 AM »
We got down early and couldn't run the ball, and then we went to the air late in the first half.  It worked and got us a couple quick scores, so I think Bill decided that's what we needed to keep doing instead of mixing in the run.  After Baylor scored again in the second half, it was absolutely desperate, out of character play-calling.  But I will defend them because I think they knew our defense couldn't stop anything. 
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Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2012, 10:18:17 AM »
How many times did Baylor bring the blitz? Would love to see some bigtimey stats with percentages and totals and stuff.
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2012, 10:20:53 AM »
So typical. Blame snyder. Players crap the bed. I will same the defensive scheme was not optimal, but we just faiked to execute. The playcalling didn't lose this game. Lack of Zim was a game changer... .

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 10:25:28 AM »
So typical. Blame snyder. Players crap the bed. I will same the defensive scheme was not optimal, but we just faiked to execute. The playcalling didn't lose this game. Lack of Zim was a game changer... .

They got key 3rd downs 3 times when we ran the same mlb middle blitz on 3rd and long that's been failing us all year.  Each time we showed the blitz, Baylor audibled into a quick slant (which I'm sure they practiced all week, because we've done that same blitz all year in that situation), and we stayed in the blitz.  Play calling played a role. 
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2012, 10:30:25 AM »
I like when we showed blitz with 20 seconds left on the play clock. Florence see's it, even points to the blitzer(s), checks out of the play, we still blitz and get torched on the play.
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 10:36:27 AM »
d :lick:
So typical. Blame snyder. Players crap the bed. I will same the defensive scheme was not optimal, but we just faiked to execute. The playcalling didn't lose this game. Lack of Zim was a game changer... .
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2012, 10:41:25 AM »
Fine. Blame Snyder for lack of recruits. That part is at least somewhat true.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2012, 10:44:59 AM »
it was really wierd.  how come we couldn't move the ball against the worst defense in football.  _Fan, I saw your tweet last night saying this loss is more on the offense than on the defense. 

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2012, 10:45:22 AM »
Fine. Blame Snyder for lack of recruits. That part is at least somewhat true.

Also, playing the entire game with two safeties deep really worked well. We played the entire game with 5-6 guys in the box and Baylor ran for more than 300 yards. Good adjustments by the coaches on that one. Also having 2 safeties deep didn't prevent an 80 yard run, so what the eff were they doing back there?

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2012, 10:48:51 AM »
We all know Phil Bennett blitzes on just about every down.  He did it when we were here and he did it lastnight.

How do you beat it?

Run game and quick passing patterns.

How did that go?

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2012, 10:54:21 AM »
 Snyder said in post game that they "turned the offense over to Klein in the second half" ... :confused:

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Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2012, 11:02:12 AM »
it was really wierd.  how come we couldn't move the ball against the worst defense in football.  _Fan, I saw your tweet last night saying this loss is more on the offense than on the defense.

It was bizarre. I'll have to rewatch, but I think it was one of the worst called offensive games I can ever remember from a Snyder coached team.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2012, 11:04:05 AM »
I like when we showed blitz with 20 seconds left on the play clock. Florence see's it, even points to the blitzer(s), checks out of the play, we still blitz and get torched on the play.

My friend and I noticed this as well.  I remember watching the Bama v Aggie game and the announcers saying that Bama is one of the few teams in the country that will do a "check with me" with the defense when the offense audibles.  We needed to do that last night.  We would show blitz with more than 25 seconds on the clock, Baylor would audible, and we would still bring the same people that we showed coming.  How easy is that to run plays against?  Blitzes are ineffective if you know where it's coming from and have dynamic wideouts that can beat 1 on 1 coverage. 

I think our offense was hurt by no Lockett and Sexton and also by our defense just not getting any stops.  Also, Baylor had all 11 players within 8 yds of the line of scrimmage on quite a few plays, especially on early downs.  You have to take advantage of the 1 on 1 matchups on the outside.  This was the first game all year where the opposing defense loaded the box and we weren't able to beat their corners on the outside with any consistency.  Not having Lockett out there to stretch the defense hurt us really bad.  No depth at WR.  Harper is quick, but he doesn't have blazing speed.  Same with TripleEffinT. 

I fully expect us to come out and demolish Bevo if Lockett is 100%.  Especially with 2 weeks for our coaches to pull their heads out of their asses and to break in Barnett at safety.  I still haven't heard of a good reason why Barnett started in front of Ferguson, either.
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2012, 11:07:07 AM »
Our guys were getting manhandled at times by Baylor's players & we might have abandoned the QB run game to a certain extent because of Klein's health, but why the hell didn't we at least try to keep pounding it with Hubert in the 2nd and 3rd quarters? Seemed like it worked pretty well early on?  :dunno:

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2012, 11:24:55 AM »
Our guys were getting manhandled at times by Baylor's players & we might have abandoned the QB run game to a certain extent because of Klein's health, but why the hell didn't we at least try to keep pounding it with Hubert in the 2nd and 3rd quarters? Seemed like it worked pretty well early on?  :dunno:

When the safeties are within 8 yards of the LOS, you have to throw it.  Our passing game was terrible.  With Lockett out, we had no gamebreakers on the outside to throw it over their heads with.
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2012, 11:36:34 AM »
Snyder said in post game that they "turned the offense over to Klein in the second half" ... :confused:

Every time they showed blitz Klein would change the play to a pass with either fly routes or deep posts then not have time to let our wideouts get open before he gets smacked in the face/brain by a baylor de or lb. Why we did not run some quick routes when they were blitzing every single linebacker is beyond me

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2012, 12:10:27 PM »
Snyder said in post game that they "turned the offense over to Klein in the second half" ... :confused:

Every time they showed blitz Klein would change the play to a pass with either fly routes or deep posts then not have time to let our wideouts get open before he gets smacked in the face/brain by a baylor de or lb. Why we did not run some quick routes when they were blitzing every single linebacker is beyond me

He also frantically checked to those plays with 2 seconds on the play clock, giving the line/rbs no time to mentally process what they were supposed to do/who they needed to pick up.  The turning point of the game was when Klein started to make these decisions in a panic.  We completely wasted at least 2 possessions early in the 3rd by wasting 1st and 2nd down on long, low % pass plays and repeatedly put ourselves in 3rd and long. 
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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2012, 01:18:29 PM »
Should have just ran goal line jumbo sets. Sub in some 2nd string guys to keep them fresh and just start punching baylor in the mouth.

Instead we resorted to throwing the ball with a QB that can't throw.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 02:42:20 PM »
We all know Phil Bennett blitzes on just about every down.  He did it when we were here and he did it lastnight.

How do you beat it?

Run game and quick passing patterns.

How did that go?

How/why do we literally not have a screen pass in the playbook anymore?  We lived off of that in the past now it's gone the way of the wishbone.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2012, 03:39:08 PM »
I think Dimel and Miller panicked with the playcalling once we got down. We completely abandoned the run which was a huge mistake.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2012, 03:44:03 PM »
We abandoned the run on the second drive.

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Re: Let's Talk About The Playcalling
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2012, 03:47:15 PM »
What's this I hear about them "Turning it over to Klein" in the 2nd half.

They let Klein call the plays? 

I don't know.   :dunno: