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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2012, 03:44:13 PM »
Just like old times here.

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Yep, just like old times.  Feels good. 


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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2012, 03:53:02 PM »
The Big 12 is looking more and more mediocre as the season goes along.  I just don't see how you can argue that going undefeated in this year's Big 12 is really that much of a challenge.

  1  BIG 12              (A) =  81.92      81.92  (  1)     10      81.96  (  1)
   2  SOUTHEASTERN        (A) =  80.94      80.90  (  2)     14      80.98  (  2)
   3  PAC-12              (A) =  79.90      78.72  (  3)     12      79.29  (  3)
   4  BIG TEN             (A) =  75.39      74.70  (  4)     12      74.88  (  4)
   5  I-A INDEPENDENTS    (A) =  73.67      73.69  (  5)      4      73.67  (  5)
   6  BIG EAST            (A) =  70.06      69.53  (  7)      8      69.59  (  7)
   7  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  69.68      70.05  (  6)     12      69.92  (  6)
   8  SUN BELT            (A) =  64.94      64.52  (  9)     10      64.58  (  8)
   9  MOUNTAIN WEST       (A) =  63.82      64.61  (  8)     10      64.46  (  9)
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC    (A) =  63.46      63.86  ( 10)      7      63.73  ( 10)
  11  MISSOURI VALLEY     (AA)=  60.99      59.98  ( 13)     10      60.32  ( 13)
  12  MID-AMERICAN        (A) =  60.80      60.63  ( 12)     13      60.68  ( 12)
  13  CONFERENCE USA      (A) =  60.63      61.10  ( 11)     12      61.00  ( 11)
  14  BIG SKY             (AA)=  55.41      54.90  ( 14)     13      55.21  ( 14)
  15  OHIO VALLEY         (AA)=  54.20      53.09  ( 16)      9      53.35  ( 15)
  16  SOUTHERN            (AA)=  53.89      53.19  ( 15)      9      53.31  ( 16)
  17  COLONIAL            (AA)=  53.54      51.37  ( 17)     11      52.18  ( 17)
  18  SOUTHLAND           (AA)=  50.23      50.78  ( 18)      8      50.52  ( 18)
  19  IVY LEAGUE          (AA)=  43.20      43.43  ( 19)      8      43.34  ( 19)
  20  PATRIOT LEAGUE      (AA)=  42.03      42.09  ( 20)      7      42.08  ( 20)
  21  MID-EASTERN         (AA)=  40.11      39.78  ( 21)     11      39.83  ( 21)
  22  NORTHEAST           (AA)=  38.99      39.43  ( 22)      9      39.35  ( 22)
  23  BIG SOUTH           (AA)=  37.67      38.74  ( 23)      7      38.23  ( 23)
  24  SOUTHWESTERN        (AA)=  34.85      35.14  ( 24)     10      35.08  ( 24)
  25  PIONEER             (AA)=  32.76      31.45  ( 25)     10      32.15  ( 25)
  26  ***UNRATED***       (**)= -90.00     -90.00  ( 26)      1     -90.00  ( 26)


The Big 12 is good on paper.  I'll give you that.  I'm not sure how anyone could argue that it's better than the SEC, though.  The Big 12 has less bad teams than the SEC, but that's mainly because it's a smaller conference now.  K-State is by far and away the best team in the Big 12, with Oklahoma a distant second.  Outside of that, I just don't see much to write home about.  The SEC has BCS #4 through #9.

The SEC has seven great teams and seven unbelievably awful teams. The Big12 has 1 great team, 1 unbelievably awful team, and 8 good teams. The average favors the Big12 slightly. The problem with saying the SEC is ahead is that all those seven great teams do not play each other. Texas A&M may as well be in a different conference than South Carolina because they will never play each other, and therefore should not be used to help each other's SOS argument or perception.

The SEC is set up to maximize the number of 1 loss teams in the conference.
They each play 4 Western Carolina type teams so even a winless conference team like Tennessee doesn't look like a bad opponent when they get beaten.
Then the top 6 teams only play 2 or 3 of the other top teams. So if you go 1-1 or 2-1 in these three games and you sweep through the UK, Vandys, Ole Miss of the worlds you end up with 5 or 6 teams in the toughest conference in the world all sitting at 11-1 or at worst 10-2. This enough to put any BCS team in the top 10.
In the big 12 it is mathmatically impossible to end up with more than 3 1-loss teams. The round robin automatically makes the conference look worse no matter how good it is. This is why K-State was in the top 25 but picked 6th in the big 12 before the season. 5 road games in this confernece and having to play every team guarantees the team that emerges has nothing to be ashamed of.

By the way, welcome back beems!  :thumbs:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2012, 03:54:19 PM »
This thread with oregonsmack is as entertaining as his idea that ku actually does have as much talent as K-State, but it is somehow underappreciated or undercoached or something like that.  Maybe if ku got more comfortable pants, they would win more games?

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2012, 03:55:42 PM »
College football is so much harder, the teams don't always control their destiny, less margin for error,, the previous seasons success matters, winning a football championship can be a two year process

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2012, 03:58:53 PM »
Have u guys tried watching a basketball game this season?  Ugh I couldn't stand it.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2012, 03:59:57 PM »
I can't wait to rape Oregon's defense and to hear beems try to bang that drum that they have a better defense than ours. That might be my favorite talking point of his.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2012, 04:02:53 PM »
I can't wait to rape Oregon's defense and to hear beems try to bang that drum that they have a better defense than ours. That might be my favorite talking point of his.

It took fanning 57 minutes to type this.  :lol:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2012, 04:07:20 PM »
Teams to play in the NCAA basketball championship game 98-12
Kentucky
Kansas
Butler
Duke
UConn
North Carolina
Michigan State
Memphis
Florida
Ohio State
UCLA
Illinois (BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE!!!)
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Maryland
Indiana
Arizona
Utah

BCS 'Ship game participants 98-12
Tennessee
Florida St
Viriginia Tech
Oklahoma
Miami
Nebraska
Ohio St
LSU
USC
Texas
Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Oregon

4 more teams have made the NCAA basketball championship game than the BCS title, and look at those lists.  Wouldn't you think its more difficult to 'break through' into the elite in football?  Only Oregon and Virginia Tech can be considered outliers  in terms of traditional football powers, while there are MANY outliers who have played for a basketball championship (Butler, Utah, Georgia Tech, Illinois etc.) in the BCS era.


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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2012, 04:10:33 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2012, 04:36:35 PM »
3 undefeated seasons in Big XII history.  OU, UT, and NU.  OU and UT won the MNC. Think NU did too.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2012, 04:38:38 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2012, 05:04:10 PM »
Beems how's the new marijuana law work?

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2012, 05:04:56 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2012, 05:06:28 PM »
beems please dont leave again
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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2012, 05:18:44 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

I generally take one step in and then hesitate and go "I see what you did here"

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2012, 05:44:10 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

Seeing Beems in action is like a breath of fresh air, imo. A master of his craft.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2012, 05:46:04 PM »
I seee Beems and rest of goEMAW like Brad and Angelina in Mr & Mrs Smith.  Like they both know what the other is up to but it's still fun to play the game.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2012, 05:49:29 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

I generally take one step in and then hesitate and go "I see what you did here"

it's very enticing.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #118 on: November 16, 2012, 05:53:58 PM »
I was going to come up with something to trash KU basketball, but when I pulled up their record from last year I saw that they played in the national championship game.

Does anybody remember that? I remembered that dude with the unibrow from Kentucky won, but I had completely forgot it was against Kansas.

Anyway, this is obviously belated, but...Way to go Jayhawks! Well done! TSC!

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Re: Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #119 on: November 16, 2012, 06:44:03 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

I just figured I would give him what he wanted so he wouldn't scurry off for another 6 months

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2012, 07:05:14 PM »
I seee Beems and rest of goEMAW like Brad and Angelina in Mr & Mrs Smith.  Like they both know what the other is up to but it's still fun to play the game.
Perfect description.
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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2012, 07:17:24 PM »
Beems, can we at least agree that college football itself is a way bigger deal than college basketball?  :cheers:

Great post. Unfortunately, you will not get a response.

it still amazes me that in the year of our lord two thousand and twelve that people still don't "get" beems.

Maybe I don't "get" beems. Doesn't he want us to engage him? He makes ridiculous statements and we crank ridiculous up a notch. Isn't that the game?

I don't think it's our fault. Times are tough for KU fans. Really tough. Feeling bad for him.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2012, 08:11:46 PM »
I seee Beems and rest of goEMAW like Brad and Angelina in Mr & Mrs Smith.  Like they both know what the other is up to but it's still fun to play the game.
Perfect description.

Hmm. I think for the regulars who get involved in these threads that's actually pretty true. Good stuff.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #123 on: November 16, 2012, 10:35:22 PM »
3 undefeated seasons in Big XII history.  OU, UT, and NU.  OU and UT won the MNC. Think NU did too.

Cake walk.

How many undefeated seasons were round robin?

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2012, 11:20:07 PM »
Would you rather win the NCAA basketball Tournament or the College World Series?

Basketball is higher profile (slightly), but the CWS would be harder.  I can't decide.



How is the CWS series harder?  Do you not understand the statistical difference in winning a six game, single elimination tournament vs. a series that's best out of five?

Best out of five? You have no idea how the CWS works.



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The College World Series or CWS is an annual baseball tournament held in Omaha, Nebraska that is the culmination of the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship, which determines the NCAA Division I college baseball champion. The eight teams are split into two, four-team, double-elimination brackets, with the winner of each bracket playing in the best-of-three championship series. The tournament takes place in June of each year.


Welp, looks like I was wrong.  It's best out of three.  And seriously, you're going to try to compare the CWS to the NCAA tournament?  That's pretty desperate, even for the most butthurt of butthurts.


This is all before the teams play their way through Regionals and Super Regionals that starts out with a total field of guess what....  64 teams playing their way to eight via single elimination.  So, truth be told, it's actually HARDER to win a CWS than a hoops title because an upset in the elite eight can be battled back from by the better team. 

VLCWSIQ Beems...   

Oh, yeah... btw, the $EC is not really as good as ESPN would have you believe and the results on the field prove as much.

http://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs
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