Landmark night for civil rights

[felix rex]

I talked to a rocket scientist that likes gay hookers.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I talked to a rocket scientist that likes gay hookers.

I bet he was great to hang around with. Was he slamming beers?

[felix rex]

I talked to a rocket scientist that likes gay hookers.

I bet he was great to hang around with. Was he slamming beers?

He was reading encyclopedias.

[MixBerryCrunch]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

[Paul Moscow]

Announced this morning. The effort to get LGBT added to the federal anti-discrimination housing law will be made within the next 4 years.

Secretary Shaun Donovan and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development are launching a ground-breaking national study of housing discrimination against members of the LGBT community in the sale and rental of housing.

HUD has historically been a leader in combating housing discrimination, having undertaken important research in 1977, 1989 and 2000 to study the impact of discrimination on the basis of race and color.  This year, HUD's study will examine housing discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity for the first time.  While there have been no national assessments of LGBT housing discrimination, state and local studies have suggested this sort of bias exists.

This initiative will be led by HUD Assistant Secretary Raphael Bostic and his staff in the Office of Policy Development and Research.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I talked to a rocket scientist that likes gay hookers.

I bet he was great to hang around with. Was he slamming beers?

He was reading encyclopedias.

He probably home brews and just didn't have a batch ready, then.

[p1k3]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

[MixBerryCrunch]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

I'm not sure I agree with states legalizing drugs on their own. I think I would prefer it to be a national decision.

[Bloodfart]

I would also say that any national, state, city, or county institution should be 100 percent accountable to strict anti-discrimination laws.  If Scott Li down at the Burrito Village restaurant down the street only wants to hire black people to work in his restaurant and only sell the burritos to gay white dudes then let him go ahead and see how that works out.

And like I said, good luck getting educated folks to move to Salina or Hutch.

Fred Phelp's has a law degree and did pass his bar exam. There are plenty of bigots that are highly educated.

lol ok

I talked to several medical doctors in Salina on Sunday and Monday who were going to vote in favor of repealing the amendment.

Just more proof that doctors in general are bad people. Did they want to be able to fire their employees for being gay or did they want to reserve the right to refuse treatment for homosexuals? Probably both.

Basically they were worried about religious institutions losing the right to discriminate.

[nicname]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

I'm not sure I agree with states legalizing drugs on their own. I think I would prefer it to be a national decision.

I prefer as little as possible to be a national decision.

[felix rex]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

I'm not sure I agree with states legalizing drugs on their own. I think I would prefer it to be a national decision.

The national leaders have to know its ok first.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Basically they were worried about religious institutions losing the right to discriminate.

I don't think religious institutions should be treated different than anybody else. If some gay guy wants to go sit on a church pew every Sunday and hear some bad person preach about how he's going to spend eternity in hell if he doesn't change his ways, I say more power to him.

[p1k3]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

I'm not sure I agree with states legalizing drugs on their own. I think I would prefer it to be a national decision.

I prefer as little as possible to be a national decision.

this. Mixberry must love big government

[MixBerryCrunch]

Proud of those states. Undecided about Colorado at the moment.

 

I'm not sure I agree with states legalizing drugs on their own. I think I would prefer it to be a national decision.

I prefer as little as possible to be a national decision.

this. Mixberry must love big government

No. I'm all for lower taxes and less government spending. Whether the decision is made at the state level or the federal level it still comes down to a government decision.  In this case I think I would like the federal government to have the control but there are other instances where I would prefer state control. 

[Rams]

the federal government has no right or reason to recognize "marriage" under any definition or in any capacity.  if state governments choose to, I suppose that's their prerogative.

[sys]

the federal government has no right or reason to recognize "marriage" under any definition or in any capacity.

immigration, taxes.  i imagine there are other issues but those are huge.  if the laws are going to exist, then the govt needs to not apply them in a discriminatory basis.

[nicname]

the federal government has no right or reason to recognize "marriage" under any definition or in any capacity.

immigration, taxes.  i imagine there are other issues but those are huge.  if the laws are going to exist, then the govt needs to not apply them in a discriminatory basis.

I like both of your points

[Rams]

the federal government has no right or reason to recognize "marriage" under any definition or in any capacity.

immigration, taxes.  i imagine there are other issues but those are huge.  if the laws are going to exist, then the govt needs to not apply them in a discriminatory basis.

the laws shouldn't exist.  that's what I'm saying.  "marriage" is an idea based in religion and the government has no legitimate reason to recognize it.  giving people a tax break for being married?  how rough ridin' stupid is that?  think about it.

[8manpick]

Any calls to “return to the way things were when…” fundamentally miss the point: the course of human history moves inexorably toward liberty and dignity for all, hard-won victory after hard-won victory over closed-mindedness and disenfranchisement, all of the victories that matter coming at anything less than total sacrifice on the part of the forward-thinking and the courageous. Our democracy was meant to be a great experiment, not a great exercise in collective false nostalgia about the way things once were.

As for the social-issue stuff: I think if someone’s pitch as to how their tax plan will allow you to keep more of your money is more important to you than the reproductive rights of your girlfriend, your daughter, your mom; the right of your gay friend to marry the person he or she loves, I think you need to consider the true gravity, the true human cost of having your priorities in that order.

http://dcpierson.tumblr.com/post/35030817854/dear-young-conservative

Posted this article in another thread, but these parts fit better here.

[sys]

giving people a tax break for being married?  how rough ridin' stupid is that?  think about it.

oh, i agree.  it'd be tougher to remove marriage biases from immigration, not impossible, but arguably hard to come up with a better alternative.

[Rams]

giving people a tax break for being married?  how rough ridin' stupid is that?  think about it.

oh, i agree.  it'd be tougher to remove marriage biases from immigration, not impossible, but arguably hard to come up with a better alternative.

pretty simple actually.  you don't get immigration rights just for being married to a u.s. citizen.  go stand in line with everybody else.

[sys]

you don't get immigration rights just for being married to a u.s. citizen.  go stand in line with everybody else.

yeah, that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Rams]

you don't get immigration rights just for being married to a u.s. citizen.  go stand in line with everybody else.

yeah, that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

false.

[sys]

you don't get immigration rights just for being married to a u.s. citizen.  go stand in line with everybody else.

yeah, that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

false.

no, it's severely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[8manpick]

you don't get immigration rights just for being married to a u.s. citizen.  go stand in line with everybody else.

yeah, that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

false.

no, it's severely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

#teamSys