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[Fedor]

Why even put that up to vote? They should just add fluoride to the water.

City council tried and were blocked by a couple of council members, the ballot provision was a compromise.  BTW this was the 4th time in the history of the city that a fluoride provision has failed.

What is this Harvard study that showed that flouridation lowers iq's of children?  I heard about it on the radio last night.
 Note: I have not followed this shitstorm because I don't have a vote on the issue.

[MakeItRain]

Why even put that up to vote? They should just add fluoride to the water.

City council tried and were blocked by a couple of council members, the ballot provision was a compromise.  BTW this was the 4th time in the history of the city that a fluoride provision has failed.

What is this Harvard study that showed that flouridation lowers iq's of children?  I heard about it on the radio last night.
 Note: I have not followed this shitstorm because I don't have a vote on the issue.

dunno, sounds like bullshit

[steve dave]

Why even put that up to vote? They should just add fluoride to the water.

City council tried and were blocked by a couple of council members, the ballot provision was a compromise.  BTW this was the 4th time in the history of the city that a fluoride provision has failed.

What is this Harvard study that showed that flouridation lowers iq's of children?  I heard about it on the radio last night.
 Note: I have not followed this shitstorm because I don't have a vote on the issue.

dunno, sounds like bullshit

yeah, my mom shoved so much flouride into my mouth growing up I basically drank it for thanksgiving feast... and I'm by far the smartest person on this board. DEBUNKED!

[Fedor]

Why even put that up to vote? They should just add fluoride to the water.

City council tried and were blocked by a couple of council members, the ballot provision was a compromise.  BTW this was the 4th time in the history of the city that a fluoride provision has failed.

What is this Harvard study that showed that flouridation lowers iq's of children?  I heard about it on the radio last night.
 Note: I have not followed this shitstorm because I don't have a vote on the issue.

dunno, sounds like bullshit

yeah, my mom shoved so much flouride into my mouth growing up I basically drank it for thanksgiving feast... and I'm by far the smartest person on this board. DEBUNKED!

Perhaps you would have been the greatest genius of our time and due to flouride poisoning you have to settle for goEMAW IQ champ.

Here is an article and what do you know, it is bullshit (in the context of drinking water).
http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/11/2485561/harvard-scientists-data-on-fluoride.html

[steve dave]

My mom used to put some kind of fluoride gel in this football mouthpiece thing and make me chomp on it. Interesting fact, I still have 2 baby teeth

[bones129]

Write-in options are great. I wrote myself in for all offices. I am comfortable in my own skin.

[Cartierfor3]

My mom used to put some kind of fluoride gel in this football mouthpiece thing and make me chomp on it. Interesting fact, I still have 2 baby teeth

wait a second.  how did this slide by.  I call BS. 

[puniraptor]

I know a dude with all his baby teeth.

[Tobias]

I know a dude with all his baby teeth.

yeah, a baby dude

[kstatefreak42]

I know a dude with all his baby teeth.

yeah, a baby dude

oscar weber

[jmlynch1]

lol

[AzCat]

For President of the United States: None of the Above.

[MakeItRain]

For President of the United States: None of the Above.

You voted for no one?  What a dumbshit.  You had like 6 choices + write in.

[HeinBallz]

I've been too occupied with football to even come to this board - but I'm just now reading back through it. 

You guys do realize that some people have sensitivities/allergies to fluoride and can affect them differently than others.  Just like lactose, gluten, etc. some people have trouble with fluoride.   Just because you're fine with fluoride doesn't mean everyone is.

If people are really concerned with dental hygiene for kids - why hasn't anyone looked at school lunches & diet? or if you're really concerned with subsidizing fluoride - make it available in supplement form for anyone that wants it.  People want it, they can take it; don't want it, don't take it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been too occupied with football to even come to this board - but I'm just now reading back through it. 

You guys do realize that some people have sensitivities/allergies to fluoride and can affect them differently than others.  Just like lactose, gluten, etc. some people have trouble with fluoride.   Just because you're fine with fluoride doesn't mean everyone is.

If people are really concerned with dental hygiene for kids - why hasn't anyone looked at school lunches & diet? or if you're really concerned with subsidizing fluoride - make it available in supplement form for anyone that wants it.  People want it, they can take it; don't want it, don't take it.

Do these people just congregate to Wichita and cities in the south? Do they bottle water at home and then take it with them whenever they travel to other parts of the country to avoid fluoride poisoning? That must be rough. Motezuma's revenge lurks in the water to the south and Yankee Doodle's revenge lies to the north.

Also, school lunches and diet have undergone a major change this year. I don't have kids, but the people at work with kids are always bitching about the school not giving their kids enough carbs and protein and too much fruits and vegetables.

[HeinBallz]

Oh yeah:

Johnson
anyone else that had an (L) next to there name...   (It's okay to party line vote when you know that person won't win anyway)
Whole slew of "no vote"'s

and No on Boat tax - because the way I read it is it didn't necessarily mean they "would" lower taxes, but the "could"  and took it as a headline with a butt load of rider's to go along with it.  I don't own a boat - so whatev's

Don't live in wichita, so I couldn't vote on Fluoride, but I would have voted no - even though I actually have a bottle of fluoride in my bathroom that I put on my kids teeth.

[HeinBallz]

I've been too occupied with football to even come to this board - but I'm just now reading back through it. 

You guys do realize that some people have sensitivities/allergies to fluoride and can affect them differently than others.  Just like lactose, gluten, etc. some people have trouble with fluoride.   Just because you're fine with fluoride doesn't mean everyone is.

If people are really concerned with dental hygiene for kids - why hasn't anyone looked at school lunches & diet? or if you're really concerned with subsidizing fluoride - make it available in supplement form for anyone that wants it.  People want it, they can take it; don't want it, don't take it.

Do these people just congregate to Wichita and cities in the south? Do they bottle water at home and then take it with them whenever they travel to other parts of the country to avoid fluoride poisoning? That must be rough. Motezuma's revenge lurks in the water to the south and Yankee Doodle's revenge lies to the north.

Also, school lunches and diet have undergone a major change this year. I don't have kids, but the people at work with kids are always bitching about the school not giving their kids enough carbs and protein and too much fruits and vegetables.

I don't know anyone that has it - but I doubt it's as extreme as ciliac or anything like that.  Probably more in line with lactose intolerance.   I have a nephew that supposedly can't have anything with red dye in it - I used to think it was bullshit, but he borderlines ADD when he has anything with it so maybe there's something to it.  I don't know, but I can certainly buy into everyone being different with how their bodies react to different chemicals & such.

I personally think the fluoride thing is putting a band-aid on a gaping wound.  Fluoride isn't going to help kids with cavities nearly as much as if people would put down the Mt. Dew & eat an apple every now & then.

[puniraptor]

Good strat, I always vote "no" on all the retaining judges ones.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Good strat, I always vote "no" on all the retaining judges ones.

I do, too. Otherwise, how is a solid up and comer ever going to get a shot?

[MakeItRain]

I've been too occupied with football to even come to this board - but I'm just now reading back through it. 

You guys do realize that some people have sensitivities/allergies to fluoride and can affect them differently than others.  Just like lactose, gluten, etc. some people have trouble with fluoride.   Just because you're fine with fluoride doesn't mean everyone is.

If people are really concerned with dental hygiene for kids - why hasn't anyone looked at school lunches & diet? or if you're really concerned with subsidizing fluoride - make it available in supplement form for anyone that wants it.  People want it, they can take it; don't want it, don't take it.

Do these people just congregate to Wichita and cities in the south? Do they bottle water at home and then take it with them whenever they travel to other parts of the country to avoid fluoride poisoning? That must be rough. Motezuma's revenge lurks in the water to the south and Yankee Doodle's revenge lies to the north.

Also, school lunches and diet have undergone a major change this year. I don't have kids, but the people at work with kids are always bitching about the school not giving their kids enough carbs and protein and too much fruits and vegetables.

I don't know anyone that has it - but I doubt it's as extreme as ciliac or anything like that.  Probably more in line with lactose intolerance.   I have a nephew that supposedly can't have anything with red dye in it - I used to think it was bullshit, but he borderlines ADD when he has anything with it so maybe there's something to it.  I don't know, but I can certainly buy into everyone being different with how their bodies react to different chemicals & such.

I personally think the fluoride thing is putting a band-aid on a gaping wound.  Fluoride isn't going to help kids with cavities nearly as much as if people would put down the Mt. Dew & eat an apple every now & then.

Less than 1% of the population has a fluoride allergy.  Some fluoride is found in water anyway along with a million other things.  If your fluoride allergy is bad enough that fluoridation will effect you it is likely that you are already using distilled water as most water in this country is fluoridated.

[HeinBallz]

Less than 1% of the population has a fluoride allergy.  Some fluoride is found in water anyway along with a million other things.  If your fluoride allergy is bad enough that fluoridation will effect you it is likely that you are already using distilled water as most water in this country is fluoridated.

I can agree with that; I guess the point I'm trying to make is if general health is the catalyst in the debate, why is this such a hot button topic when it will likely have little effect on health.  People are quick to point out that tooth decay can be tied to heart disease and other serious illnesses.  Logic would imply the same things that cause tooth decay are the same things that cause heart disease.  Correlation does not imply causation and I’m not convinced otherwise.

And how many people with poor diets even drink water?  Seems like the people that want it, don’t need it.  The people that need it – likely won’t get much benefit from it.  There seems to be enough people opposed to it – why press the issue?

Bottom line, I’m oppose to it because I don’t think it does anything for people that actually care about themselves.  If people genuinely care about others - obesity is a bigger problem – tackle that and good oral hygiene will likely follow.

[HeinBallz]

Oh yeah, the argument that it is or isn’t medicating the public bothers me when the entire debate suggest that poor oral health is an epidemic that some people can’t overcome.  That’s just bull crap.  Suggesting people are not smart enough, not rich enough, or not white enough to take care of their teeth is arrogant and self gratifying.   In reality, there are no victims here – it is a supplement.  I would feel the same if people were talking about adding vitamin C to the water.  What good would it do?

That’s not a statement to anyone in general, just an observation I’ve made.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

So what happened, did Big Fluoride win again?

[HeinBallz]

No - and half of Wichita is pretty butthurt over it.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Good. no need to subsidize them any further.