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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2012, 11:19:29 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2012, 11:22:09 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.

That's $750 per boat.

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2012, 11:24:42 AM »
Approximately 10,000 watercraft are registered in the surrounding states to Kansas residents to avoid the 30% property tax rule.  Watercraft includes boats, jet-skis, canoes, sailboats, etc. Drive around a marina or place that stores boats and see how many tags are Kansas.  I think it's pathetic that if I signed a waiver saying I operated the boat over 50% of the time in Oklahoma that I would save $1,500 bucks a year.   

The real question is what is this money funding? We have serious water and reservoir issues in Kansas and I would like to think this tax is being put toward that. The tax would have to be lowered by $600 per boat to be as cheap as Oklahoma, and we would only be gaining 10,000 registrations by doing that. I fail to see how this could increase revenues.

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2012, 11:25:19 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.

That's $750 per boat.

Still eff that. (stupid math error)
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 11:26:28 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.

That's $750 per boat.

Still eff that. (stupid math error)

Why should non-boat owners subsidize boating recreation in Kansas? That sounds like socialism to me.

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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2012, 11:28:26 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.

That's $750 per boat.

Still eff that. (stupid math error)

Why should non-boat owners subsidize boating recreation in Kansas? That sounds like socialism to me.

Because that's not were that tax money will go.
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2012, 11:29:00 AM »
Seriously, how many taxable boats are there in the state of Kansas. If this was a coastal state I could understand. I am voting yes to help allow flexibility in the tax policy on boats.

about 85,000

so not that many, got it.

That accounts for $63.75 million.

In taxes per year? $750,000 per boat. eff that.

That's $750 per boat.

Still eff that. (stupid math error)

Why should non-boat owners subsidize boating recreation in Kansas? That sounds like socialism to me.

Because that's not were that tax money will go.

Where does it go, then?

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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2012, 11:30:00 AM »
I'm with stormnut, I don't think the 100% right wing KS govornment will use the tax money wisely.

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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2012, 11:33:00 AM »
Fluoride.

hell yes, I also voted to keep boat owners paying like a million percent in property tax, eff boats




sorry boat owners :cry:

Man, Wichita cracks me up sometimes.  Heard an anti-flouride commercial coming back up from Dallas this weekend.  Couldn't believe it.

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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2012, 11:33:27 AM »
I'm with stormnut, I don't think the 100% right wing KS govornment will use the tax money wisely.

Maybe they will send it to Washington to pay off the national debt like they did all of the money they received to transition to Obamacare.

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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2012, 11:36:04 AM »
I'm with stormnut, I don't think the 100% right wing KS govornment will use the tax money wisely.

Maybe they will send it to Washington to pay off the national debt like they did all of the money they received to transition to Obamacare.

did that actually happen?  :sdeek:

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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2012, 11:37:55 AM »
Seems like people who buy boats are the most likely to go bankrupt. Causation or correllation?
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2012, 11:38:28 AM »
Seems like people who buy boats are the most likely to go bankrupt. Causation or correllation?

also above ground pools

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2012, 11:42:14 AM »
I'm with stormnut, I don't think the 100% right wing KS govornment will use the tax money wisely.

Maybe they will send it to Washington to pay off the national debt like they did all of the money they received to transition to Obamacare.

did that actually happen?  :sdeek:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/09/292201/kansas-brownback-accepts-then-returns-health-law-grant/?mobile=nc

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/print-edition/2012/09/28/brownback-doesnt-serve-kansans-with.html?page=all

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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2012, 11:42:47 AM »
I'm with stormnut, I don't think the 100% right wing KS govornment will use the tax money wisely.

Agree. The gov (dem or Republic) has too much of my money already. Don't need any more. Even if I don't own a boat.
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2012, 11:43:08 AM »
Approximately 10,000 watercraft are registered in the surrounding states to Kansas residents to avoid the 30% property tax rule.  Watercraft includes boats, jet-skis, canoes, sailboats, etc. Drive around a marina or place that stores boats and see how many tags are Kansas.  I think it's pathetic that if I signed a waiver saying I operated the boat over 50% of the time in Oklahoma that I would save $1,500 bucks a year.   

The real question is what is this money funding? We have serious water and reservoir issues in Kansas and I would like to think this tax is being put toward that. The tax would have to be lowered by $600 per boat to be as cheap as Oklahoma, and we would only be gaining 10,000 registrations by doing that. I fail to see how this could increase revenues.

The money is treated as any other property tax and is lumped in and dispersed as such.  Where KDWPT is hanging their hat is that those 10,000 watercraft will be registered in Kansas and, therefore, are subject to KDWPT registration.  That would immediately recapture $32.50 each in registration fees, for $325,000 total.  That money is directly earmarked for KDWPT boating for things like dock upkeep, ramps, marina inspections, boat inspections, enforcing vessel operation, etc.

In addition to this argument, they believe that the lessening of the property taxes on boats will increase boat ownership, the valuation of the boats being purchased, and myriad of other things.   

The serious water and reservoir issues were never addressed and will never be solved by this property tax rule.

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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2012, 11:44:16 AM »
Fluoride.

hell yes, I also voted to keep boat owners paying like a million percent in property tax, eff boats




sorry boat owners :cry:

Man, Wichita cracks me up sometimes.  Heard an anti-flouride commercial coming back up from Dallas this weekend.  Couldn't believe it.

they want to give us poison :runaway: FWIW the people pouring cash into the anti-fluoride campaign are primarily from outside the state (Florida of course) however there are tens of thousands of morons who really think that the city wants to poison the water

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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2012, 11:44:33 AM »
Anyone i know with a boat or above ground pool is an idiot and a republican.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2012, 11:45:42 AM »
I think there are alot of canceling votes on the boat issue.  I voted yes on boats.  I did not do any research though so I was not sure if I was lowering or raising boat taxes.   :dunno:  Also I wanted to vote for fluoride but I am not allowed.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2012, 11:48:06 AM »
You guys are just puppets for Big Fluoride.  :flush:

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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2012, 11:56:34 AM »
Kansans can write-in Stein. :dunno:

http://www.jillstein.org/ballot

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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2012, 11:57:07 AM »
I think there are alot of canceling votes on the boat issue.  I voted yes on boats.  I did not do any research though so I was not sure if I was lowering or raising boat taxes.   :dunno:  Also I wanted to vote for fluoride but I am not allowed.

a yes vote changes the constitution which would in theory give the state government power to lower taxes on boats.  When I become governor in 2038 I'm going to raise boat taxes to about 86%.  eff boats.

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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2012, 11:58:20 AM »
i voted to keep a part of the oklahoma tax code that charges tax on logos, certificates, and other random stuff.  eff you, give us money.

How did you vote on allowing the Oklahoma Water Resources Board to issue bonds?   :ohno:
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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2012, 11:59:25 AM »
I voted for Jill Stein because we matched up on the quiz and her website didn't have any policies that really bothered me other than renegotiating free trade agreements. But pretty much everyone says they'll do that.

I voted for the State assembly guy that wasn't the one Oakland Mayor Jean Quan was campaigning for at my Bart station, so that made me feel good. All the other offices were either unopposed democrats or townies I didn't know anything about.

I also voted NO on the GMO labeling, yes on the Union payroll deduction thing, yes on repealing the death penalty, yes on amending three strikes, yes for Oakland zoo funding.

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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2012, 12:00:59 PM »
i voted to keep a part of the oklahoma tax code that charges tax on logos, certificates, and other random stuff.  eff you, give us money.

How did you vote on allowing the Oklahoma Water Resources Board to issue bonds?   :ohno:

i said no, eff you and figure out how to pay for your own crap.

i also said keep the dhs and eff mary fallin, she has to be apart of the pardon process