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I was watching the movie Chariots of Fire the other night on TV, hadn't seen it since late 80s or early 90s, a movie about two British track stars in the '24 Olympic Games and the manner in which their beliefs impacted their lives and careers.  The FIRE in Chariots of Fire is the passion that each of these two runners, Jew and Evangelical Christian, have for their sport.  There is this scene where the great sprinter Eric Liddel gets knocked to the track, falls way behind the opposition and runs like a man consumed, to catch up with and pass the other runners.  Like CK, Liddel was from a family of devout faith.

I think one of the best things we as fans can do is to let Collin and his family know that we're praying for them.  This family who cares so much about education that they decided to do it themsleves gave both of their sons to KSU and even if you think CK's beliefs are silly or old fashioned, we all get the benefit from who he is and of the standards he sets for himself. 

I certainly respect each person's ability to choose or not choose a faith, in this great country of ours.  However, in my own personal life, I had been agnostic or atheistic for a very long time until I had a child who was impacted by a serious medical issue.  Our wonderful and brilliant doctor encouraged us to find "spiritual support" from familiy, friends and co-workers.  I didn't understand or really listen to her the first time she said it.  Weeks later, she asked again and gave us case by case example of the wonders that had happened in that office, also saying that there was a "day and night difference" between families that shared a faith and those that didn't.  This time, we listened... and we prayed, as did hundreds of people we knew and hundreds of others we didn't know.  I got emails from people whose churches and cities I'd never even heard of.  I can't explain it, but something amazing happened.  Almost immediately, my wife and I became more patient with each other, we stopped feeling angry and tired all the time.  We found the strength, the right specialists and the money sort of just showed up to help us cover exhaustive medical bills, to change the direction of our child's life. 

Ultimately, our son not only stopped having seizures and other brain problems, he also recovered from the impact of all that brain damage to such an extent that doctors who look at his files today are baffled, totally in disbelief about the progress he made.  I would hope for nothing less than that same impact for the Klein's.  Pray for CK and let him know about it.  He deserves it.  Everything else will take care of itself.

 
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From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon.  Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist.  No injury.  Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.

At least that's the story they are putting out there.

They may put that out there but it's false

I took the precautionary part as a reference to the concussion.  I thought the concussion was inherent/implied.  I dunno.

oh, maybe I misread that.

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DNR entire thread, but did anyone check with the vet school for snakes?

Also, as a side note to the snakes, did we maybe burn a bridge with our WVU neighbors earlier by making fun of their use of snakes in faith healing, when now we find our selves in a position where we could really use an expertise such as that.

If we get the snakes, could cDubya or any of the other WVU fans still around help us out here? Could really make us look like a bunch of rubes if you could pull this off.

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Benja's (or benji's?) dad can hook collin up with snake venom if that would help. We dont need west vergineans.

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Benja's (or benji's?) dad can hook collin up with snake venom if that would help. We dont need west vergineans.

Thats only good for preventing alzheimers cancer and joint pain. Althought a quick google search may turn up some testimonials for it curing spaghetti brains.

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I was watching the movie Chariots of Fire the other night on TV, hadn't seen it since late 80s or early 90s, a movie about two British track stars in the '24 Olympic Games and the manner in which their beliefs impacted their lives and careers.  The FIRE in Chariots of Fire is the passion that each of these two runners, Jew and Evangelical Christian, have for their sport.  There is this scene where the great sprinter Eric Liddel gets knocked to the track, falls way behind the opposition and runs like a man consumed, to catch up with and pass the other runners.  Like CK, Liddel was from a family of devout faith.

I think one of the best things we as fans can do is to let Collin and his family know that we're praying for them.  This family who cares so much about education that they decided to do it themsleves gave both of their sons to KSU and even if you think CK's beliefs are silly or old fashioned, we all get the benefit from who he is and of the standards he sets for himself. 

I certainly respect each person's ability to choose or not choose a faith, in this great country of ours.  However, in my own personal life, I had been agnostic or atheistic for a very long time until I had a child who was impacted by a serious medical issue.  Our wonderful and brilliant doctor encouraged us to find "spiritual support" from familiy, friends and co-workers.  I didn't understand or really listen to her the first time she said it.  Weeks later, she asked again and gave us case by case example of the wonders that had happened in that office, also saying that there was a "day and night difference" between families that shared a faith and those that didn't.  This time, we listened... and we prayed, as did hundreds of people we knew and hundreds of others we didn't know.  I got emails from people whose churches and cities I'd never even heard of.  I can't explain it, but something amazing happened.  Almost immediately, my wife and I became more patient with each other, we stopped feeling angry and tired all the time.  We found the strength, the right specialists and the money sort of just showed up to help us cover exhaustive medical bills, to change the direction of our child's life. 

Ultimately, our son not only stopped having seizures and other brain problems, he also recovered from the impact of all that brain damage to such an extent that doctors who look at his files today are baffled, totally in disbelief about the progress he made.  I would hope for nothing less than that same impact for the Klein's.  Pray for CK and let him know about it.  He deserves it.  Everything else will take care of itself.

 

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sounds like they are better and more effective at praying for people than me. Maybe I could purchase some prayer credits from them or something.

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before anyone's god starts taking credit for this just be aware that I prayed to ganesha immediately when the concussion occurred and full credit for the healing has already been accepted

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I lol'd at the pray for romney facebook page.

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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion.  So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.

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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion.  So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.

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It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. While you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.
In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.

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ATTENTION CREDIBLE PROTESTANT FAITH HEALERS: CK SPAGHETTI BRAINS RELATED THREAD
« Reply #192 on: November 05, 2012, 08:35:26 PM »
Blowing my mind off with this extremely high concussion IQ

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it is my thought that anyone who was worried that snyder might love klein too much to force him to play with a damaged brain is worrying unnecessarily.  snyder loves that klein wins fball games, if klein's brain is acting tc, fp, etc, then it isn't winning fball games, and snyder can't love it anymore.  obviously snyder isn't going to want to fall out of love with his favorite player, so klein will have to play.
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I think BJ needs to swaddle Collin in his burly arms for like a few minutes and all will be right.

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It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. While you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.
In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.
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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion.  So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.

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From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon.  Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist.  No injury.  Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.

At least that's the story they are putting out there.

Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?

Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines.  From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.


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It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. White you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.


In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.
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