Apparently, Clemson went hard after Currie

[pissclams]

if someone said to me, "clams, describe frank martin" i would respond with one word, and one word only, "megalomaniac".  then i'd say, go cats.

Common trait in good coaches at high levels.  Also makes for entertainment off the court/field.

wrong.  you should look up the definition of megalomaniac and try again, "CNS Casey".

[CNS]

Megalomania is a psycho-pathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. 'Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs'

 

"Clams"

[pissclams]

frank personifies megalomaniac.  key on the word 'delusional' and then focus on the fact we, k-state, gave frank everything he has.

you can't say that bill self is delusional, or izzo is delusional, or others who have earned what they have and built it for themselves. 

nope.  frank was the benefactor of an alcoholic mentor who skipped town and left the school that put him back into the spotlight, in the lurch. 

i'll stop now because i don't want to spoil what's left of your own delusional ideas of who or what frank martin was at k-state or to k-state, but if you think we're so bad of a basketball place, that we have to put up with his crap, you have a very low opinion of your alma mater and you need to get professional help because you're sickening to ksu cats everywhere around the entire globe.

[CNS]

Sounds like we need to find the next alcoholic that is willing to stay around for at least two years.  I mean, if Huggs can give us 4+ years of prosperity after he leaves simply from being here 1 yr, think what we could get from the next drinky mcdrinkerton if they stayed 3 yrs. 

Guys, we could have our next drunk set up an NC run by the next nobody assistant that was left with us falling into his lap.

Also, does it have to be a megalomaniac assistant who lucks into our job, or can it be any assistant since the alcoholic's remnant magic is so strong?

 

[Rock Lobster]

IMO Currie would've received an A++++++ like Ralphie in Christmas Story if he had hired Gottlieb. However we have all realized that was a daydream not unlike Ralphie. In reality Currie receives a C+ because he shot his eye out with the Weber hire.

[Trim]

F-

[wazucat]

IMO Currie would've received an A++++++ like Ralphie in Christmas Story if he had hired Gottlieb. However we have all realized that was a daydream not unlike Ralphie. In reality Currie receives a C+ because he shot his eye out with Weber.

Sorry to be out of the loop, but what have we/you all realized that made Gottlieb  a day dream. 

[steve dave]

IMO Currie would've received an A++++++ like Ralphie in Christmas Story if he had hired Gottlieb. However we have all realized that was a daydream not unlike Ralphie. In reality Currie receives a C+ because he shot his eye out with Weber.

Sorry to be out of the loop, but what have we/you all realized that made Gottlieb  a day dream.

our AD sucking at making basketball hires was the first thing that made me realize it

[puniraptor]

IMO Currie would've received an A++++++ like Ralphie in Christmas Story if he had hired Gottlieb. However we have all realized that was a daydream not unlike Ralphie. In reality Currie receives a C+ because he shot his eye out with Weber.

Sorry to be out of the loop, but what have we/you all realized that made Gottlieb  a day dream.

I think the hope that currie would actually hire doug was the daydream.

[8manpick]

Sounds like we need to find the next alcoholic that is willing to stay around for at least two years.  I mean, if Huggs can give us 4+ years of prosperity after he leaves simply from being here 1 yr, think what we could get from the next drinky mcdrinkerton if they stayed 3 yrs. 

Guys, we could have our next drunk set up an NC run by the next nobody assistant that was left with us falling into his lap.

Also, does it have to be a megalomaniac assistant who lucks into our job, or can it be any assistant since the alcoholic's remnant magic is so strong?

 

What is Larry Eu doing?!

[Benja]

It sounds like Frank may have legitimately crazier/more trouble than most coaches.

[p1k3]

F-

This. Letter grade for the Frank issues (A to B) , two more letter grades for the Jamar witch hunt (B to D) , and one letter grade and a half for oscar (D to F-) .

[Barry McCockner]

It seems that the longer this thread continues, the more informed, intelligent posters join in.   

[mancattanite]

So they're paying Radakovich $750,000.

For the remainder of his contract, we are paying Currie an average of $512,500.

I know he also gets bonuses, but would he get ~$250,000? Or is it possible that he actually likes it here?

word is he got an extension which I'm sure included a raise

My bad, that is from the extended contract:

http://www.k-state.edu/today/announcement.php?id=3892&category=news&referredBy=K-State%20Today%20Home

[jtksu]

I fuckin loved Frank but I'm of the opinion that recruiting was going downhill and our success with Frank was coming to an end.  I don't think oscar is going to do any better but I think pretty much everyone was getting tired of Frank whoring himself self out every offseason and demanding more money. 

[MakeItRain]

I fuckin loved Frank but I'm of the opinion that recruiting was going downhill and our success with Frank was coming to an end.  I don't think oscar is going to do any better but I think pretty much everyone was getting tired of Frank whoring himself self out every offseason and demanding more money.

Robert Upshaw

[Cire]

Clemson is not an ncaA or conference job

[jmlynch1]

Bob Krause would have hired Gottlieb! Also, I saw him on the concourse last night.

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh yeah, Robert Upshaw . . . the 7 foot project whose massive lists of options were:  Fresno State and Fresno State.

[pissclams]

Oh yeah, Robert Upshaw . . . the 7 foot project whose massive lists of options were:  Fresno State and Fresno State.

he's still a top 50 player, regardless of whether or not he signed on with his hometown team after frank bailed on him.

[sonofdaxjones]

Technically, Upshaw never fully signed on with Frank.

It doesn't really count until every document is signed and the kid is on campus.   

No points

[sys]

Technically, Upshaw never fully signed on with Frank.

It doesn't really count until every document is signed and the kid is on campus.   

No points

yeah, my understanding is that when it isn't a legitimate signing, fans have a way of shutting that whole system down and their butts remain entirely undamaged.

[MakeItRain]

Oh yeah, Robert Upshaw . . . the 7 foot project whose massive lists of options were:  Fresno State and Fresno State.

 

[Blackcats]

I still, irrationally, want him gone. Someone help me change my mind...

The Martin/Currie relationship didn't work because Currie is a huge dork who loves money. But that's a pretty great asset to have as an AD. He'll get shiny stuff built for us, but basically his entire long term legacy rests on if he can actually make a good football hire. If he can, he's a been a great AD for us.

To this point, Currie has been a B+ AD.  A+ AD who loses a full letter grade because of the Martin debacle.  Aside from that...

Take another letter grade for the Webber debacle

Add a letter for building us a castle.

[CNS]

Technically, Upshaw never fully signed on with Frank.

It doesn't really count until every document is signed and the kid is on campus.   

No points

yeah, my understanding is that when it isn't a legitimate signing, fans have a way of shutting that whole system down and their butts remain entirely undamaged.

Oh man...