Master KSU Butthurt About Being Passed Over Eventually Thread

[michigancat]

probably ok_luke or luke_cat

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20853257

hint:  we're way ahead

that's really interesting, and not so much because of KSU kicking unbelievable amounts of ass.

[Stevesie60]

probably ok_luke or luke_cat

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20853257

hint:  we're way ahead

that's really interesting, and not so much because of KSU kicking unbelievable amounts of ass.

Yeah, I may have to stop talking about how much ND is overrated after that. At least, I would expect people to stop saying we're overrated after they vote for us in that poll.

[mocat]

probably ok_luke or luke_cat

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20853257

hint:  we're way ahead

that's really interesting, and not so much because of KSU kicking unbelievable amounts of ass.

Yeah, I may have to stop talking about how much ND is overrated after that. At least, I would expect people to stop saying we're overrated after they vote for us in that poll.

i have heard zero people say we are overrated. most say oregon will probably eventually overtake us, but the consensus is we belong at #2 now.
and you are right about ND 

[stunted]

Awesome. The world needs to see this.

[g2brg]

Awesome. The world needs to see this.

sorry for the luke (new topic) but,

The world needs to see this.

[Fuktard]

I did a little math:

Assuming ND loses and falls behind Oregon, we gain in two polls, but Oregon gains in six. If both KSU and Oregon pass ND in all polls (and no other teams move), our computer ranking would go from .940 to .960, while Oregon's would go from .850 to .890. That would give Oregon a .0048 point lead over us, assuming the poll gap stays consistent. .0048 BCS points translates into approximately 7 coaches poll points OR 14 Harris Poll points that we would need to close the gap.

What happens to Florida is almost as important as ND, really.

if the human votes stay the same, your math is wrong....given what you stated (our computer at .96 Oregon at .89) we stay well ahead of Oregon

[SkinnyBenny]

I still just want everyone to lose. When we win the MNC I don't want any motherfuckers to ever be able to have a beef.  At all.

[michigancat]

I did a little math:

Assuming ND loses and falls behind Oregon, we gain in two polls, but Oregon gains in six. If both KSU and Oregon pass ND in all polls (and no other teams move), our computer ranking would go from .940 to .960, while Oregon's would go from .850 to .890. That would give Oregon a .0048 point lead over us, assuming the poll gap stays consistent. .0048 BCS points translates into approximately 7 coaches poll points OR 14 Harris Poll points that we would need to close the gap.

What happens to Florida is almost as important as ND, really.

if the human votes stay the same, your math is wrong....given what you stated (our computer at .96 Oregon at .89) we stay well ahead of Oregon

oh crap, you're right:

Now:

KSU: .9318
UO: .9166

Computers only change:

KSU: .9385
UO: .9299

It takes a shitload of voters changing their mind for Oregon to make that up (100 Harris points ~= .0117 BCS points; 100 Coaches points ~= .0267 BCS points)

[hemmy]

Oregon's computer ranking is going to go way up.

[michigancat]

Oregon's computer ranking is going to go way up.

How?

[Fuktard]

Oregon's computer ranking is going to go way up.

How?

I don't think they can pass us in any poll and that's what is important.  If the human polls stay the same, the only way Oregon catches us is to be ONE spot lower than us in every computer.  That said, Bama jumped SEVEN spots by barely (yes i know MOV isn't counted) winning ONE game.

[Stevesie60]

Oregon's computer ranking is going to go way up.

How?

I don't think they can pass us in any poll and that's what is important.  If the human polls stay the same, the only way Oregon catches us is to be ONE spot lower than us in every computer.  That said, Bama jumped SEVEN spots by barely (yes i know MOV isn't counted) winning ONE game.

Alabama played a team pretty high in every poll. Oregon isn't playing anyone in the top ten in the computers. If Stanford beats Oregon State this weekend, it will almost guarantee that.

[michigancat]

.  That said, Bama jumped SEVEN spots by barely (yes i know MOV isn't counted) winning ONE game.

They also played someone ranked in the top 10 in all computers. Oregon won't have that opportunity, and each game has less impact on computers from here on.

[Frankenklein]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

[michigancat]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

[mocat]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

[steve dave]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

If that's true then they pass us in the computers. I don't think it's true.

[kim carnes]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

who cares?  we already know they aren't passing us in the computers, they just need to pass everyone but us (and alabama)

[Stevesie60]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

Do you mean on the remaining schedule or overall schedule?

[chum1]

When Alabama played LSU, they were at .93 and LSU was at .79.  Afterward, Alabama went to .99.  When we played Tech, we were at .94 and they were at .66.  As a result of that game, we moved up to .97.  Currently, Oregon is at .85, Stanford is at .55, and Oregon State is at .69.  How much Oregon's rankings will increase isn't a straightforward thing, of course, but it seems like they've got a lot of ground to make up and need like three big jumps to be able to do it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

If that's true then they pass us in the computers. I don't think it's true.

I think he just meant their remaining SOS. they don't have anything remotely equivalent to the schedule we have already played.

[mocat]

  Oregon not playing everyone in their conference makes it harder to figure what their computer rankings will do.They will go up but if conference teams they have beat lose to conference teams they don't play it shouldn't go up as much and nd beating usc is a must.Damn you OU and OSU for your OOC loses,and the squawks too.

You can look at the computer rankings of who they still have to play and get a pretty good idea.

Yes. Even with the extra game vs a top 20 (or so) ucla/usc, their SOS is only marginally better than ksu's

If that's true then they pass us in the computers. I don't think it's true.

Sorry, I meant their remaining schedule is only marginally better than our remaining schedule

[eastcat]

What is Tejas's computer SOS? They beat an SEC team. If we beat down a 9-2 bevo like a little bitch how big of an impact will that be?

Just thinking outloud. 

[KITNfury]

What is Tejas's computer SOS? They beat an SEC team. If we beat down a 9-2 bevo like a little bitch how big of an impact will that be?

Just thinking outloud. 

It will be as good or better than whatever joke UO faces in their championship game. Would be great if UT wins out and we roll them. It may even be imperative.

[bigwilliestyle1407]

What is Tejas's computer SOS? They beat an SEC team. If we beat down a 9-2 bevo like a little bitch how big of an impact will that be?

Just thinking outloud. 

It will be as good or better than whatever joke UO faces in their championship game. Would be great if UT wins out and we roll them. It may even be imperative.

If Texas wins their next two games, before we curb stomp'em. How highly could they be ranked come Dec. 1st?