This Team Is Better Than The 1998 Team

[hemmy]

Fun fact: In the 1999 NFL draft, our first player taken was taken at #80. That was Gramatica. Our first payer taken from offense or defense was taken at #198.

Most of our talent was on defense, as is evidenced by the number of players from the '99 defense that made it to the NFL.

[Super PurpleCat]

One thing that hasn't changed, our ability to crap the bed at the end of the season when it counts.

[Legit Elite]

I would say the '98 offense was better at most positions than the '12 offense except wr'

However, I do remember being worried about a turnover on every snap in '98 and never worrying this season.

[hemmy]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

[star seed 7]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

'98 was good enough to win doing that.  '12 would get blown out every game if they did.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

'98 was good enough to win doing that.  '12 would get blown out every game if they did.

This thread says "better", not who had more talent.

[Legit Elite]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

'98 was good enough to win doing that.  '12 would get blown out every game if they did.

True story, I almost crap myself when Murphy fumbled into the endzone at Missouri.

[bones129]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

Snyder's teams during his first stint committed far more penalties than his teams since he came back. Several false starts were the norm and the expectation. Glad to see those pretty much gone...with the unfortunate exception of the last game.

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[Institutional Control]

'98 was also much better at committing like 13 penalties and fumbling about 4 times a game.

Snyder's teams during his first stint committed far more penalties than his teams since he came back. Several false starts were the norm and the expectation. Glad to see those pretty much gone...with the unfortunate exception of the last game.

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No more false starts because everyone knows that every snap will always be with 1 second left on the clock.

[Stevesie60]

Fun fact: In the 1999 NFL draft, our first player taken was taken at #80. That was Gramatica. Our first payer taken from offense or defense was taken at #198.

Most of our talent was on defense, as is evidenced by the number of players from the '99 defense that made it to the NFL.

Our defensive players in the 2000 draft got taken at #33, #67, and #146. So I guess you can claim our defense was crazy talented, but that it still seems to me that we're overestimating it quite a bit.

[kitten_mittons]

Was 98 better than 03? No, probably not.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Was 98 better than 03? No, probably not.

I enjoyed the 03 team much more than 98, partly because I was only 7 years old in 98.

[GoodForAnother]

'12 at full strength would prob lose to '98, '02 and '03

that said '12 is my favorite team of all time because of the way they played and the leadership they had

[hemmy]

Fun fact: In the 1999 NFL draft, our first player taken was taken at #80. That was Gramatica. Our first payer taken from offense or defense was taken at #198.

Most of our talent was on defense, as is evidenced by the number of players from the '99 defense that made it to the NFL.

Our defensive players in the 2000 draft got taken at #33, #67, and #146. So I guess you can claim our defense was crazy talented, but that it still seems to me that we're overestimating it quite a bit.

Terrence Newman (2003 draft), John McGraw(2002 draft), Mario Fatafehi(2001 draft), Chris Johnson(2001...not sure if/where drafted) were also on that defense

[Legit Elite]

The '03 team maybe ranks tops 5 all time, but maybe not.

1995
1997
1998
1999
2000
2002
2012

could make an arguement that all better teams than 2003

[kitten_mittons]

The '03 team maybe ranks tops 5 all time, but maybe not.

1995
1997
1998
1999
2000
2002
2012

could make an arguement that all better teams than 2003

Wut?

[kim carnes]

The '03 team maybe ranks tops 5 all time, but maybe not.

1995
1997
1998
1999
2000
2002
2012

could make an arguement that all better teams than 2003

 

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

The '03 team maybe ranks tops 5 all time, but maybe not.

1995
1997
1998
1999
2000
2002
2012

could make an arguement that all better teams than 2003

This is a terrible post

[Stevesie60]

Fun fact: In the 1999 NFL draft, our first player taken was taken at #80. That was Gramatica. Our first payer taken from offense or defense was taken at #198.

Most of our talent was on defense, as is evidenced by the number of players from the '99 defense that made it to the NFL.

Our defensive players in the 2000 draft got taken at #33, #67, and #146. So I guess you can claim our defense was crazy talented, but that it still seems to me that we're overestimating it quite a bit.

Terrence Newman (2003 draft), John McGraw(2002 draft), Mario Fatafehi(2001 draft), Chris Johnson(2001...not sure if/where drafted) were also on that defense

This thread is about '98. Newman redshirted in '98. McGraw didn't start till 2000. Fatafehi was a JUCO transfer, so he was not on the team in '98.

[Legit Elite]

1995 had two losses to top 10 teams
1997 lost one game to the national champs
1998 was obviously better
1999 lost one game to the national runner-up
2000 lost three games, two to the national champs and one at A&M
2002 lost 2 games by a total of 7 points.

2003 lost to Marshall at home...now that's a real 

There's my arguement.  You'd probably all remember this except that you don't because you weren't alive to see it.

[Stevesie60]

Honestly had no idea about '95.

[Legit Elite]

One more thing, what do all of the aforementioned teams except '98 have in common that 2003 does not?

Also, half of the big 8 won 10 games in '95

[Stevesie60]

Less than 4 losses?

[Legit Elite]

Less than 4 losses?

They all ended the season with wins.

Don't get me wrong, Dr. Peppers are great, but sometimes you win or lose the league by circumstance rather than how great your team is.

1998 still #1, but I don't know about this 2012 team.  They won the league with one loss.  We lost the league with one loss three times unless you're an A&M fan.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I would say the '98 offense was better at most positions than the '12 offense except wr'

However, I do remember being worried about a turnover on every snap in '98 and never worrying this season.

I think Michael Bishop is the only starter on the '98 offense who would be a starter on the '12 team.