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http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/KansasState.htmAnother thing to consider: the 1998 team played TWO games against teams with winning records on the road, and won both by a touchdown or less. The 2012 team played 4, and a 5th that went to a bowl (ISU). In 1998, they had a stretch of 4 games in a row against (Big 12) teams with losing records and just played 4 D1 teams with winning records in the regular season. 2012 played 8. You may want to consider that when you cleverly compare average ppg.
98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIW
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.
Quote from: steve dave on January 06, 2013, 04:00:36 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.last year's was like 100x tougher
Quote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:04:59 PMQuote from: steve dave on January 06, 2013, 04:00:36 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.last year's was like 100x tougherIt's like you aren't even trying anymore.
Quote from: Jakesie60 on January 06, 2013, 04:47:06 PMQuote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:04:59 PMQuote from: steve dave on January 06, 2013, 04:00:36 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.last year's was like 100x tougherIt's like you aren't even trying anymore.it was tougher, hence more losses.
Quote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:53:01 PMQuote from: Jakesie60 on January 06, 2013, 04:47:06 PMQuote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:04:59 PMQuote from: steve dave on January 06, 2013, 04:00:36 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.last year's was like 100x tougherIt's like you aren't even trying anymore.it was tougher, hence more losses.#8 is not 100x greater than #18.
If I had to bet my life, or my loved ones' lives, on the outcome of a game between the 98 team and the 2012 team, I would not hesitate an instant to take the 98 team. Not one instant.
Quote from: Pete on January 06, 2013, 06:25:06 PMIf I had to bet my life, or my loved ones' lives, on the outcome of a game between the 98 team and the 2012 team, I would not hesitate an instant to take the 98 team. Not one instant. That's very reckless, Pete.
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 05:16:51 PMQuote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:53:01 PMQuote from: Jakesie60 on January 06, 2013, 04:47:06 PMQuote from: kim carnes on January 06, 2013, 04:04:59 PMQuote from: steve dave on January 06, 2013, 04:00:36 PMQuote from: ksu_FAN on January 06, 2013, 03:42:03 PM98 SOS = #56.12 SOS = #18.FWIWyeah. chingon had good analysis earlier in the season about how this schedule was probably the toughest Bill had faced.last year's was like 100x tougherIt's like you aren't even trying anymore.it was tougher, hence more losses.#8 is not 100x greater than #18.It is tougher though.
QB-98 team. Bishop is god. RB-12 teamFB-12 teamWR-Not even close..12 team.TE- TOSS UP. OLINE-98 Team.DLINE- 98 team.LB- Not even close..98 teamCB- 12 teamS-12 team. I thought Milo and Ty were great together and always made the right play. and milo is a hard hitter!K-Automatica Gramatica. 98 teamP-12 team.
Offense Was, iirc:McDonaldSwift11th biggest line in all of football including NFL or whateverBishGoolsbyHickson or Lawrence or Charles or whatever pud Lockett
Quote from: kstatefreak42 on January 07, 2013, 12:33:04 PMQB-98 team. Bishop is god. RB-12 teamFB-12 teamWR-Not even close..12 team.TE- TOSS UP. OLINE-98 Team.DLINE- 98 team.LB- Not even close..98 teamCB- 12 teamS-12 team. I thought Milo and Ty were great together and always made the right play. and milo is a hard hitter!K-Automatica Gramatica. 98 teamP-12 team.What the? Maybe I need to revisit and compare these rosters again. My memory may be fading. Has anybody already compared them side-by-side? ANY element of Defense going to '12 leads me to be suspicious...
Deffense was, iirc:BeiselFatafehi?other DT?HowardSimoneauKellyOchsButlerCooperChapmanCarter
'12 DBs are about the same.
, I'm not sure on what planet this year's DBs are better than Coop, Chap, Butler & Carter (didn't we also have Neasman or somebody in nickle situations?).