Nino and Doc - Didn't have what it took

[j-dub]

  truly is our only hope

[chum1]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

The weird part is associating personal happiness with K-State winning basketball games. All the more so when you do it with reverence for a tool like Frank Martin.  He was always a tool.  Just like Weber.

[j-dub]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

The weird part is associating personal happiness with K-State winning basketball games. All the more so when you do it with reverence for a tool like Frank Martin.  He was always a tool.  Just like Weber.

not weird at all. seems like that's why pretty much everyone congregates here. maybe not you so it seems.

[sys]

The weird part is associating personal happiness with K-State winning basketball games.

it made me very, very happy.

[chum1]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

The weird part is associating personal happiness with K-State winning basketball games. All the more so when you do it with reverence for a tool like Frank Martin.  He was always a tool.  Just like Weber.

not weird at all. seems like that's why pretty much everyone congregates here. maybe not you so it seems.

I guess maybe instead of "weird" I should have said "mumped up."

[j-dub]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

The weird part is associating personal happiness with K-State winning basketball games. All the more so when you do it with reverence for a tool like Frank Martin.  He was always a tool.  Just like Weber.

not weird at all. seems like that's why pretty much everyone congregates here. maybe not you so it seems.

I guess maybe instead of "weird" I should have said "mumped up."

it takes all kinds chum.

[sonofdaxjones]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

Who didn't like what Frank did during the 5 years?   What I didn't like was the fact that it was quite clear that outside a complete change in trajectory, the next 5 years weren't going to be very good.   A clear, clean, concise indication that Frank wasn't a long term deal and had no intention to be.   You don't plan on sticking around long when you go entire recruiting classes recruiting absolute $hit . . . you're just there to ride out what you inherited, or what you got riding the euphoria of the previous coach so you can move on. 

You can bitch all day long about Currie . . . but nothing says not committed to basketball like an $18 million dollars of basketball training facility, and nearly $2 million dollars a year in total compensation for the head coach, all the while no trophies of significance are going into the trophy case, and entire recruiting classes blow ass.

 

[wetwillie]

So anyway back on topic, what kind of bad habits do you suppose oscar is trying to undo? My guess, ball denial is a big one, learning to play a 2-3 zone probably.  Thoughts?

[chum1]

I'm sure there have been entire practices devoted to juking.

[puniraptor]

Timeout calling Wednesdays.

[kim carnes]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

Who didn't like what Frank did during the 5 years?   What I didn't like was the fact that it was quite clear that outside a complete change in trajectory, the next 5 years weren't going to be very good.   A clear, clean, concise indication that Frank wasn't a long term deal and had no intention to be.   You don't plan on sticking around long when you go entire recruiting classes recruiting absolute $hit . . . you're just there to ride out what you inherited, or what you got riding the euphoria of the previous coach so you can move on. 

You can bitch all day long about Currie . . . but nothing says not committed to basketball like an $18 million dollars of basketball training facility, and nearly $2 million dollars a year in total compensation for the head coach, all the while no trophies of significance are going into the trophy case, and entire recruiting classes blow ass.

dax, you can't talk sense to these people.  frank had one fluke season where 2 of the major contributors were transfers and they think he is mike kzkvijewzki.

[mancattanite]

According to the article he hasn't placed as much emphasis on defense. I do not like this.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

I love me some K-State winning basketball.   


Don't give a eff who the coach is that's winning.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

I love me some K-State winning basketball.   


Don't give a eff who the coach is that's winning.

FYI, BTW, et cetera

[MakeItRain]

Hating on Frank is loads of fun.

it doesn't look like fun.  mir is stating the rational position eloquently.  i don't know if martin is the best coach in kstate history or not, but i know he was the best kstate coach in my lifetime.  i'm very happy that he spent five years at kstate.  i wish he could have been there longer.

weird of me, not to hate something that brought me happiness, i know.

Who didn't like what Frank did during the 5 years?   What I didn't like was the fact that it was quite clear that outside a complete change in trajectory, the next 5 years weren't going to be very good.   A clear, clean, concise indication that Frank wasn't a long term deal and had no intention to be.   You don't plan on sticking around long when you go entire recruiting classes recruiting absolute $hit . . . you're just there to ride out what you inherited, or what you got riding the euphoria of the previous coach so you can move on. 

You can bitch all day long about Currie . . . but nothing says not committed to basketball like an $18 million dollars of basketball training facility, and nearly $2 million dollars a year in total compensation for the head coach, all the while no trophies of significance are going into the trophy case, and entire recruiting classes blow ass.

So while trying to explain to us that he wasn't the miserable sonofabitch the last five years that his posts conveys, Dax tells us what he DIDN'T like, literally didn't list one good thing in now three post defending the fact that he hated everything and everyone.

[0.42]

I'm happy for the team and for EMAW fans for what happened under Frank. Very happy. It was fun. You can acknowledge that and also acknowledge that Frank is an egotistical dork, and also that our current coach sucks. I'm also happy to discuss lots of other basketball topics not having to do with our current coach, and I want to see our current players succeed. But thanks for the tips on my mental health, MiR. May I suggest anger management on your end?

[MakeItRain]

I'm happy for the team and for EMAW fans for what happened under Frank. Very happy. It was fun. You can acknowledge that and also acknowledge that Frank is an egotistical dork, and also that our current coach sucks. I'm also happy to discuss lots of other basketball topics not having to do with our current coach, and I want to see our current players succeed. But thanks for the tips on my mental health, MiR. May I suggest anger management on your end?

anger management, for an observation  pretty weird 42

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, everyone and everything, how do you even respond to that?  Didn't I respond once already, and my last post wasn't even responding to you.

[kso_FAN]

Loved Frank and all of his ridiculous quirks. He's gone, I'm thankful for his time, but no reason not to make fun of some/much of his ridiculousness now that he's no longer here. He really did/said a lot of things that you only enjoy as a fan if he's your coach; though I'm sure that's true for many coach behaviors. I'm really anxious to see if he can make it work again at SC, if he does and has long term success I will a) respect him for his abilities, but b) continue to make fun of him because he's no longer ours.

And I understand why people hate oscar.

[Trim]

Loved Frank and all of his ridiculous quirks. He's gone, I'm thankful for his time, but no reason not to make fun of some/much of his ridiculousness now that he's no longer here. He really did/said a lot of things that you only enjoy as a fan if he's your coach; though I'm sure that's true for many coach behaviors. I'm really anxious to see if he can make it work again at SC, if he does and has long term success I will a) respect him for his abilities, but b) continue to make fun of him because he's no longer ours.

And I understand why people hate oscar.

I'm down with this.

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

“Rodney is a smarter player now,” sophomore guard Nino Williams said. “With Frank he scored the ball, but he scored in trashy ways. Coach Weber has got him making better decisions.”

he scored in trashy ways

http://www.kansas.com/2012/10/17/2535909/k-states-mcgruder-eager-for-expanded.html

[michigancat]

Loved Frank and all of his ridiculous quirks. He's gone, I'm thankful for his time, but no reason not to make fun of some/much of his ridiculousness now that he's no longer here. He really did/said a lot of things that you only enjoy as a fan if he's your coach; though I'm sure that's true for many coach behaviors. I'm really anxious to see if he can make it work again at SC, if he does and has long term success I will a) respect him for his abilities, but b) continue to make fun of him because he's no longer ours.

And I understand why people hate oscar.

I'm down with this.

x2

Except his jorts and sloppy body shape were rough ridin' embarrassments, not fun quirky behavior.

[CNS]

Jfc nino.

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[catzacker]

nino reminds me of the shitty chiefs defensive players after Greg Robinson got canned that were all like "yeah, greg robinson was the reason we sucked" and then the next year they still sucked.

[kim carnes]

Loved Frank and all of his ridiculous quirks. He's gone, I'm thankful for his time, but no reason not to make fun of some/much of his ridiculousness now that he's no longer here. He really did/said a lot of things that you only enjoy as a fan if he's your coach; though I'm sure that's true for many coach behaviors. I'm really anxious to see if he can make it work again at SC, if he does and has long term success I will a) respect him for his abilities, but b) continue to make fun of him because he's no longer ours.

And I understand why people hate oscar.

I'm down with this.

x2

Except his jorts and sloppy body shape were rough ridin' embarrassments, not fun quirky behavior.

everything about him was embarrassing.  everything.