Media hates us, we get no respect, keep the chip on our shoulder thread

[Katpappy]

Eff these guys.

ND got a fluke hold that wiped a td off the board, same as our belldozer fumble recovery.

ND -OU was tied @ 13 13 with like 8 mins left before they got a bullshit int that was not possesed thru the contact with the ground.

Those games were practically the same. We shut them down on d, ND shut them down on d. We horse whipped them on the running game, they horse whipped them in the run game.

Whats more fluky, our senior qb not having any turovers, or their freshman who averages 2 turnovers a game not having any?

It was clearly a hold. The only issue was the late call.

Notre Dame was clearly the better team.

Oh dont give me that crap.

You can call hold on any play. Also my overall pount was ou had a td taken off the board by an ou mistake. The same in both games.

Also, we were the clearly better team.

Finally are you going to tell me our more impressive win over miami doesnt count as much cause we were home and the domers had to play at a neutral site.

Dude, you're a dumbass.

Your arguments are:

"My overall pount was ou had a td taken off the board by an ou mistake."

and

"Our more impressive win over Miami."

DUMB 

Sorry switchin from phone to keyboard cause obviously I am being misunderstood.

My point is we are the same as ND. Our win over OU is no less, nor no more impressive then ND's win over OU.

It drives me effin nuts that the media tries to tear down what we have done, yet build up Notre Dame as the more impressiveteam in their win over OU. You can go through both games and point out "flukes" that when all tallied are practically the same for both our teams.

I pointed out Miami only to say that if we only take scores into account, one could argue we are better then ND when comparing the Miami scores. It will probably be the media's take away from both our games that ND was at a "neutral" site to excuse their lower, less "impressive" score and to promote that it was tougher. Our win over Miami was no more, nor no less impressive the ND's win over Miami. It was the same.

So overall we already have the media telling us how much better and more impressive ND was against Ou then we were, yet when the Miami score is eventually brought up, the location will be used as a negative against us to further promote ND being the better team when in every measurable way in the two games we were almost mirrors of each other.

Using common opponets WE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

Arguing about ND is pointless.  There's no way they will pass us unless we lose.  Oregon is the only worry right now because most media and coaches (..assist. coaches) who do 2/3 the BCS look at box scores/highlights because they don't have the time to watch everyone and want to go home.  Oregon has been a power more recently than we have so they get the benefit of a doubt by these voters.  It helped that USC/Oregon St. lost and that might be enough, but voters will keep them ahead of us regardless unless they drop a game.  If we both go undefeated the rest of the season, it's going to come down to the smallest margin the BCS has probably seen.

Looks like somebady doesn't know we're ranked #2 in tonight's BCS and Oregon is #3.

[bucket]

 

[CHONGS]

2. Kansas State 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9400

Sorry, Kansas State, but you're just renting your spot in the penthouse. Ranked third in the human polls, the Wildcats aren't going to be able to stay at No. 2 overall unless they can get into the top two according to the people. The computers are happy, ranking KSU co-No. 1 along with Notre Dame, but that's going to change with a weaker finishing kick than the Irish, USC and Alabama.

Predicted Wins: Oklahoma State, at TCU, at Baylor, Texas
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: Oklahoma State, at TCU, Texas

3. Notre Dame 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9147

Notre Dame is in the exact same boat as Kansas State. The computers are in love - putting the Irish No. 1 overall in a tie with the Wildcats - but the humans are in like. No. 4 in both human polls, there's no chance of ever getting into the top two without two of the top four teams losing. Style points are going to count from here on, so just getting by Pitt, Boston College and Wake Forest won't be enough.

Predicted Wins: Pitt, at Boston College, Wake Forest, at USC
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: at USC

4. Oregon 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9136

Oregon is just fine. The No. 2 spot in the Harris and Coaches' polls will never change as long as the wins keep coming, and the computers are going to start to come around. Ranked fifth overall by the wires and circuits, but only a fraction behind the Irish in the overall rankings, the Ducks will have no problems getting into the top two if they go 13-0.

Predicted Wins: at USC, at California, Stanford, at Oregon State, Pac-12 championship
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 13-0
Predicted Bowl: BCS championship
Loss Alert: at USC, Stanford, at Oregon State

[j-dub]

welp. 

[Dr Rick Daris]

2. Kansas State 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9400

Sorry, Kansas State, but you're just renting your spot in the penthouse. Ranked third in the human polls, the Wildcats aren't going to be able to stay at No. 2 overall unless they can get into the top two according to the people. The computers are happy, ranking KSU co-No. 1 along with Notre Dame, but that's going to change with a weaker finishing kick than the Irish, USC and Alabama.

Predicted Wins: Oklahoma State, at TCU, at Baylor, Texas
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: Oklahoma State, at TCU, Texas

3. Notre Dame 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9147

Notre Dame is in the exact same boat as Kansas State. The computers are in love - putting the Irish No. 1 overall in a tie with the Wildcats - but the humans are in like. No. 4 in both human polls, there's no chance of ever getting into the top two without two of the top four teams losing. Style points are going to count from here on, so just getting by Pitt, Boston College and Wake Forest won't be enough.

Predicted Wins: Pitt, at Boston College, Wake Forest, at USC
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: at USC

4. Oregon 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9136

Oregon is just fine. The No. 2 spot in the Harris and Coaches' polls will never change as long as the wins keep coming, and the computers are going to start to come around. Ranked fifth overall by the wires and circuits, but only a fraction behind the Irish in the overall rankings, the Ducks will have no problems getting into the top two if they go 13-0.

Predicted Wins: at USC, at California, Stanford, at Oregon State, Pac-12 championship
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 13-0
Predicted Bowl: BCS championship
Loss Alert: at USC, Stanford, at Oregon State

where is this from?

[bucket]

2. Kansas State 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9400

Sorry, Kansas State, but you're just renting your spot in the penthouse. Ranked third in the human polls, the Wildcats aren't going to be able to stay at No. 2 overall unless they can get into the top two according to the people. The computers are happy, ranking KSU co-No. 1 along with Notre Dame, but that's going to change with a weaker finishing kick than the Irish, USC and Alabama.

Predicted Wins: Oklahoma State, at TCU, at Baylor, Texas
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: Oklahoma State, at TCU, Texas

3. Notre Dame 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9147

Notre Dame is in the exact same boat as Kansas State. The computers are in love - putting the Irish No. 1 overall in a tie with the Wildcats - but the humans are in like. No. 4 in both human polls, there's no chance of ever getting into the top two without two of the top four teams losing. Style points are going to count from here on, so just getting by Pitt, Boston College and Wake Forest won't be enough.

Predicted Wins: Pitt, at Boston College, Wake Forest, at USC
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: at USC

4. Oregon 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9136

Oregon is just fine. The No. 2 spot in the Harris and Coaches' polls will never change as long as the wins keep coming, and the computers are going to start to come around. Ranked fifth overall by the wires and circuits, but only a fraction behind the Irish in the overall rankings, the Ducks will have no problems getting into the top two if they go 13-0.

Predicted Wins: at USC, at California, Stanford, at Oregon State, Pac-12 championship
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 13-0
Predicted Bowl: BCS championship
Loss Alert: at USC, Stanford, at Oregon State

where is this from?

people with a brain

[Fuktard]

"weaker finishing kick than the Irish"... OMG...LMAO.  That tells you all you need to know about whoever wrote that.

Without losing it will be difficult for anyone to pass us. 

[Fuktard]

The other thing getting lost is that the actual # ranking is only relevant in the computer polls.  In the human polls, it's not the "number" you are ranked, it's the percentage of points you get...and that's what is helping us out tremendously. 

[Cartierfor3]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

[bucket]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

[Rams]

"weaker finishing kick than the Irish"... OMG...LMAO.  That tells you all you need to know about whoever wrote that.

Without losing it will be difficult for anyone to pass us.

notre dame

pitt 1-3 in big east
boston college 1-4 in acc
wake forest 2-4 in acc
usc 4-2 in pac 12

ksu

osu 3-1 in big 12
tcu 2-3 in big 12
baylor 0-4 in big 12
texas 3-2 in big 12

on what rough ridin' planet is nd's schedule a stronger 'finishing kick' than ours?  goddammit. 

[Cartierfor3]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

Thanks for your contribution, but I'm still curious as to the statistical chance of all 4 going a combined 12-0 or whatever

[bucket]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

Thanks for your contribution, but I'm still curious as to the statistical chance of all 4 going a combined 12-0 or whatever

40-60

[Rams]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

Thanks for your contribution, but I'm still curious as to the statistical chance of all 4 going a combined 12-0 or whatever

40-60

pfft. no.

[WildcatPower]

I personally, don't give a crap about the media.

[Cartierfor3]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

Thanks for your contribution, but I'm still curious as to the statistical chance of all 4 going a combined 12-0 or whatever

40-60

not interested in your guess dork.  like, using the massey ratings with the 4 teams combined what is the statistical probibility.  that's what I'm looking for

[Barry McCockner]

Chings, what is the statistical chance of all 4 winning out.  Has to be low, doesn't it?

Statistics? Look at the schedule! Notre Dame has one game left on their schedule USC. I give the domers the edge, but you never know in this crazy game.

Oregon has the tougher test with Oregon State, Stanford and USC x 2

Grow a pair and throw the stats out the window!

Thanks for your contribution, but I'm still curious as to the statistical chance of all 4 going a combined 12-0 or whatever

40-60

not interested in your guess dork.  like, using the massey ratings with the 4 teams combined what is the statistical probibility.  that's what I'm looking for

Go to the website.

Multiply.

Don't they teach this in 7th or 8th grade?

[Pendergast]

Am going to LOL if Roll Tide loses by a point or something, and the Ducks win by a point or something, and the top 5 turns into this:

1.KSU
2.ND
3.LSU
4.Tide
5.Ducks

The best thing about this whole mess is we've found a fanbase more tuckish than KSTATEO, and that's Oregon.

[bucket]

Am going to LOL if Roll Tide loses by a point or something, and the Ducks win by a point or something, and the top 5 turns into this:

1.KSU
2.ND
3.LSU
4.Tide
5.Ducks

The best thing about this whole mess is we've found a fanbase more tuckish than KSTATEO, and that's Oregon.

LOL? More like rotfpmp!!!

[qatzmanchu]

Did anyone read anything I wrote? 

The media (the rest of the country) doesnt trust us to match up athlete for athlete against Bama. They are manufacturing reasons to knock us down a peg, because even though we have proven to be the second best team in the country on the field this year, they dont think we truly are because we dont win recruiting battles, we dont win bowl games, and for a couple of years prior we sucked.

They cant say those are the specific reasons because the system is supposed to pit best team of the year A vs second best team of the year B, but the reality is we dont have a track record with these kind of thing. Kind of a chicken and egg thing, but what are you going to do? it boils down to national titles not being single year events, but taking multiple years of positive things for a team to build enough capital to compete on the field and in the hearts.

What we can do is go out and beat the living daylights out of the teams on our schedule and hope Oregon, ND or Bama screw up somewhere.

And to all those who don't care what the media thinks; they vote for and influence two-thirds of the polls. They will get the matchup they want, not what we deserve.

[bucket]

Did anyone read anything I wrote? 

The media (the rest of the country) doesnt trust us to match up athlete for athlete against Bama. They are manufacturing reasons to knock us down a peg, because even though we have proven to be the second best team in the country on the field this year, they dont think we truly are because we dont win recruiting battles, we dont win bowl games, and for a couple of years prior we sucked.

They cant say those are the specific reasons because the system is supposed to pit best team of the year A vs second best team of the year B, but the reality is we dont have a track record with these kind of thing. Kind of a chicken and egg thing, but what are you going to do? it boils down to national titles not being single year events, but taking multiple years of positive things for a team to build enough capital to compete on the field and in the hearts.

What we can do is go out and beat the living daylights out of the teams on our schedule and hope Oregon, ND or Bama screw up somewhere.

And to all those who don't care what the media thinks; they vote for and influence two-thirds of the polls. They will get the matchup they want, not what we deserve.

 

[doom]

Did anyone read anything I wrote? 

The media (the rest of the country) doesnt trust us to match up athlete for athlete against Bama. They are manufacturing reasons to knock us down a peg, because even though we have proven to be the second best team in the country on the field this year, they dont think we truly are because we dont win recruiting battles, we dont win bowl games, and for a couple of years prior we sucked.

They cant say those are the specific reasons because the system is supposed to pit best team of the year A vs second best team of the year B, but the reality is we dont have a track record with these kind of thing. Kind of a chicken and egg thing, but what are you going to do? it boils down to national titles not being single year events, but taking multiple years of positive things for a team to build enough capital to compete on the field and in the hearts.

What we can do is go out and beat the living daylights out of the teams on our schedule and hope Oregon, ND or Bama screw up somewhere.

And to all those who don't care what the media thinks; they vote for and influence two-thirds of the polls. They will get the matchup they want, not what we deserve.

Hey, dumbass.  These people don't have the wheel, k?

[qatzmanchu]

Did anyone read anything I wrote? 

The media (the rest of the country) doesnt trust us to match up athlete for athlete against Bama. They are manufacturing reasons to knock us down a peg, because even though we have proven to be the second best team in the country on the field this year, they dont think we truly are because we dont win recruiting battles, we dont win bowl games, and for a couple of years prior we sucked.

They cant say those are the specific reasons because the system is supposed to pit best team of the year A vs second best team of the year B, but the reality is we dont have a track record with these kind of thing. Kind of a chicken and egg thing, but what are you going to do? it boils down to national titles not being single year events, but taking multiple years of positive things for a team to build enough capital to compete on the field and in the hearts.

What we can do is go out and beat the living daylights out of the teams on our schedule and hope Oregon, ND or Bama screw up somewhere.

And to all those who don't care what the media thinks; they vote for and influence two-thirds of the polls. They will get the matchup they want, not what we deserve.

Hey, dumbass.  These people don't have the wheel, k?

Touche, I guess we can count on Oregon and ND stumblin and bumblin then cause the cats will do their part.

[MakeItRain]

2. Kansas State 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9400

Sorry, Kansas State, but you're just renting your spot in the penthouse. Ranked third in the human polls, the Wildcats aren't going to be able to stay at No. 2 overall unless they can get into the top two according to the people. The computers are happy, ranking KSU co-No. 1 along with Notre Dame, but that's going to change with a weaker finishing kick than the Irish, USC and Alabama.

Predicted Wins: Oklahoma State, at TCU, at Baylor, Texas
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: Oklahoma State, at TCU, Texas

3. Notre Dame 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9147

Notre Dame is in the exact same boat as Kansas State. The computers are in love - putting the Irish No. 1 overall in a tie with the Wildcats - but the humans are in like. No. 4 in both human polls, there's no chance of ever getting into the top two without two of the top four teams losing. Style points are going to count from here on, so just getting by Pitt, Boston College and Wake Forest won't be enough.

Predicted Wins: Pitt, at Boston College, Wake Forest, at USC
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 12-0
Predicted Bowl: Fiesta
Loss Alert: at USC

4. Oregon 8-0 BCS Score: 0.9136

Oregon is just fine. The No. 2 spot in the Harris and Coaches' polls will never change as long as the wins keep coming, and the computers are going to start to come around. Ranked fifth overall by the wires and circuits, but only a fraction behind the Irish in the overall rankings, the Ducks will have no problems getting into the top two if they go 13-0.

Predicted Wins: at USC, at California, Stanford, at Oregon State, Pac-12 championship
Predicted Losses: None
Predicted Final Record: 13-0
Predicted Bowl: BCS championship
Loss Alert: at USC, Stanford, at Oregon State

where is this from?

cfn.scout.com

Pete Fiutak, no one reads the site, so he flies under the radar, but the guy has been driving the K-State hate wagon for years.  After we beat OU he still had them above us with his rankings.  In 2003 he had Darren Sproles 8th in his final top 10 player race

[Bookcat]

The No. 2 spot in the Harris and Coaches' polls will never change as long as the wins keep coming, and the computers are going to start to come around. (for Oregon)

Both have shifted on Oregon the last two weeks as the wins kept coming..and Oregon keeps slipping. USC drops, Oregon State drops, and Notre Dame will beat USC.

Pete Futiak is wrong on this one. I bet his breath is awful.