Author Topic: where did the "right" lose its way? (Read 25066 times)

steve dave · « **on:** September 20, 2012, 07:34:08 AM »

Obama served this election up on a platter for the right and will still probably get re-elected. How is Mitt Romney the best candidate the right can field? I mean, crazy 2008 John McAin would have walked away with this thing. Yet, here we are. Mitt. Jesus rough ridin' christ.

8manpick · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2012, 07:45:22 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on September 20, 2012, 07:34:08 AM

Obama served this election up on a platter for the right and will still probably get re-elected. How is Mitt Romney the best candidate the right can field? I mean, crazy 2008 John McAin would have walked away with this thing. Yet, here we are. Mitt. Jesus rough ridin' christ.

I really liked Huntsman, but he did crazy stuff like say he believed in evolution and global warming so his run didn't last as long as actual crazy people Santorum and Bachmann's runs. When was the last time one party didn't send out a total loser to lose the election? '92?

Institutional Control · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2012, 07:57:20 AM »

The problem with the right is that a GOP candidate must pander to the extremists to rally the base and they alienate themselves from the people in the middle for the general elections.

I think McCain would have won in '08 if not for Palin.

EllToPay · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:03:57 AM »

Quote from: CFoD on September 20, 2012, 07:57:20 AM

I think McCain would have won in '08 if not for Palin.

yep.

ben ji · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:23:06 AM »

I really liked Rick Perry until I heard him speak.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:26:10 AM »

Quote from: CFoD on September 20, 2012, 07:57:20 AM

The problem with the right is that a GOP candidate must pander to the extremists to rally the base and they alienate themselves from the people in the middle for the general elections.

I think McCain would have won in '08 if not for Palin.

Palin did nothing to help, but I think he would have lost either way. Obama was a very strong candidate in 2008.

'taterblast · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:38:38 AM »

i thought of a cool slogan yesterday.

"the person that should be president of the united states probably didn't go into politics"

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:48:22 AM »

Every day I remember how much I hate the tea party conservatives for hijacking the right.

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8manpick · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2012, 09:46:26 AM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on September 20, 2012, 08:48:22 AM

Every day I remember how much I hate the tea party conservatives for hijacking the right.

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Yep. The Tea Party really was a death knell for moderate Republicans. Sad, that by pushing their extreme agenda they made some momentary gains, but have cost themselves far more in the long run.

steve dave · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2012, 09:50:14 AM »

Do you guys think Fox News is partially responsible for the right's collapse?

ben ji · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:04:22 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on September 20, 2012, 09:46:26 AM

Quote from: EMAWmeister on September 20, 2012, 08:48:22 AM
Every day I remember how much I hate the tea party conservatives for hijacking the right.

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Yep. The Tea Party really was a death knell for moderate Republicans. Sad, that by pushing their extreme agenda they made some momentary gains, but have cost themselves far more in the long run.

I'm actually a fan of what the Tea Party wants, low taxes, small government. I just dont like that its represented by mouthbreathing WT Sooner fans.

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »

Quote from: ben ji on September 20, 2012, 10:04:22 AM

Quote from: 8manpick on September 20, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
Quote from: EMAWmeister on September 20, 2012, 08:48:22 AM
Every day I remember how much I hate the tea party conservatives for hijacking the right.

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Yep. The Tea Party really was a death knell for moderate Republicans. Sad, that by pushing their extreme agenda they made some momentary gains, but have cost themselves far more in the long run.

I'm actually a fan of what the Tea Party wants, low taxes, small government. I just dont like that its represented by mouthbreathing WT Sooner fans.

Why did the republican party need a bunch of crazies to remind the country that they support low tax and small govt?

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'taterblast · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:13:56 AM »

right or wrong, the election of barack obama inspired the crazies

michigancat · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM »

I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

'taterblast · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:18:33 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM

I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

or decriminalize weed.

p1k3 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:26:15 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on September 20, 2012, 09:50:14 AM

Do you guys think Fox News is partially responsible for the right's collapse?

Yes.

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM

I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

Same. Good point.

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #16 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:27:28 AM »

Quote from: emawblast on September 20, 2012, 10:13:56 AM

right or wrong, the election of barack obama inspired the crazies

I don't think it was necessarily just obama. I think once the democrats took control of the house and the senate, some republicans felt threatened and went to the extreme end of the spectrum on most issues. Then a partisan war ensued.

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felix rex · « **Reply #17 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:29:10 AM »

Quote from: emawblast on September 20, 2012, 10:18:33 AM

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

or decriminalize weed.

Culture change. Give it time. We are working our way up the ranks.

ben ji · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:29:15 AM »

Quote from: emawblast on September 20, 2012, 10:18:33 AM

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

or decriminalize weed.

Looks like there are no problems between michigancat emawblast and ben ji.

If ben ji was in charge he probably wouldnt cut military spending but he would definitely freeze it for 8 years and close some random bases we have left over from WWII

8manpick · « **Reply #19 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:35:18 AM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on September 20, 2012, 10:13:03 AM

Why did the republican party need a bunch of crazies to remind the country that they support low tax and small govt?

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:15:32 AM

I have a big problem with anyone says they are for "small government" but won't touch military spending or legalize gay marriage.

Yeah. The thing is, you can't really support low tax, small gov't, America: world police, and be a sane person. You can't spend 5x what the next highest country does on military, have low taxes, and not hemorrhage money. Ron Paul is right on our military policy.

p1k3 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:37:37 AM »

This is the "fiscally conservative" end of the ticket. What a joke.

michigancat · « **Reply #21 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:41:13 AM »

Well, start taking care of all the nonsense listed above, along with some of the inflicting Christianity on everyone and I may take the right seriously.

p1k3 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:43:42 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:41:13 AM

Well, start taking care of all the nonsense listed above, along with some of the inflicting Christianity on everyone and I may take the right seriously.

This is another thing. If the "Right" could drop the Christianity and social issues crap they would win a lot more elections. They should take more of a libertarian view on things, not forcing their morals on others.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:50:00 AM »

Quote from: p1k3 on September 20, 2012, 10:43:42 AM

Quote from: michigancat on September 20, 2012, 10:41:13 AM
Well, start taking care of all the nonsense listed above, along with some of the inflicting Christianity on everyone and I may take the right seriously.

This is another thing. If the "Right" could drop the Christianity and social issues crap they would win a lot more elections. They should take more of a libertarian view on things, not forcing their morals on others.

Won't happen for at least a few more generations

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:50:59 AM »

Quote from: p1k3 on September 20, 2012, 10:37:37 AM

This is the "fiscally conservative" end of the ticket. What a joke.

He's a Neo-Liberal just like Bush was.

Probably the smartest guy out there was Newt, the thing is, Newt can't get past his past, and he doesn't know when to shut up . . . but he's pretty much a Neo-Liberal/RINO/Fake Conservative/Child of the Beltway as well.