Play calling (still vanilla?)

[sonofdaxjones]

 

[deputy dawg]

In re-watching the first half a couple things stand out concerning some things we did to abuse Miami's defense.

1st, the offensive play-calling has much more trust in the offensive line this season. One of the reasons to run option football is that at times you can hide poor offensive line play because you are releasing an offensive lineman (particularly your tackles) to the 2nd level and reading the defensive end. When your offensive linemen can sustain blocks, you can move away from option and run more power/lead running game, which is exacly what we did Saturday vs Miami. In the first half alone I counted 18 run plays that were lead or power (pulling backside oline) lead plays. Only 4 run plays were option, with 3 being speed option near the goal-line and one zone read.

2nd, we completely confused the Miami defense with formations and personnel. In the first half we ran at least 15 different formations (I say "at least" because sometimes we run essentially the same formation, but change the backfield ie. under center in the I formation or shotgun pistol or shotgun single wing look). 11 times we had 2 TEs. 7 of our double TE sets had 1 RB. 4 had 2 RBs. 4 times we had no TEs and 4 WRs. 6 times we had 3 WRs and 2 RBs with no TEs. 11 times we used motion, motioning the FB 3 of those times. Once we shifted from one formation to a completely different formation while shifting the FB to the TE spot.

It was a showcase of the Scheme Doctor at work.

Damn it, don't make me feel like I need a clipboard to watch the next Qhatz game.  But I do like that breakdown of formations.   

[kso_FAN]

Also, we destroyed whatever coverage Miami tried to play. Early on they tried to play man and we used that against them in both the passing and running game. Even on Klein's incomplete throw to Harper, Harper had inside position on the slant but Klein's throw was slightly behind him. Then on the TD to Sexton we caught Miami in a cover 3 and Sexton found the seam between the safety and corner. The play was run from a doubles 4 wide formation and Sexton was the outside receiver. He and the inside receiver simply crossed and ran vertical routes down the hashes and numbers which gave Sexton the space he needed for Klein to complete the throw. (I'll give a frame by frame look at this one on the blog this week)

[Winters]

Also, we destroyed whatever coverage Miami tried to play. Early on they tried to play man and we used that against them in both the passing and running game. Even on Klein's incomplete throw to Harper, Harper had inside position on the slant but Klein's throw was slightly behind him. Then on the TD to Sexton we caught Miami in a cover 3 and Sexton found the seam between the safety and corner. The play was run from a doubles 4 wide formation and Sexton was the outside receiver. He and the inside receiver simply crossed and ran vertical routes down the hashes and numbers which gave Sexton the space he needed for Klein to complete the throw. (I'll give a frame by frame look at this one on the blog this week)

[XocolateThundarr]

Also, we destroyed whatever coverage Miami tried to play. Early on they tried to play man and we used that against them in both the passing and running game. Even on Klein's incomplete throw to Harper, Harper had inside position on the slant but Klein's throw was slightly behind him. Then on the TD to Sexton we caught Miami in a cover 3 and Sexton found the seam between the safety and corner. The play was run from a doubles 4 wide formation and Sexton was the outside receiver. He and the inside receiver simply crossed and ran vertical routes down the hashes and numbers which gave Sexton the space he needed for Klein to complete the throw. (I'll give a frame by frame look at this one on the blog this week)

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Miami DC:   Well, what've you got?
Scheme Doctor:   Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam; spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam; or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Miami DC:   Have you got anything without spam?
Scheme Doctor:   Well, there's the Option of Liberty and spam, that's not got much spam in it.

I'm hungry now.

[Stevesie60]

In re-watching the first half a couple things stand out concerning some things we did to abuse Miami's defense.

1st, the offensive play-calling has much more trust in the offensive line this season. One of the reasons to run option football is that at times you can hide poor offensive line play because you are releasing an offensive lineman (particularly your tackles) to the 2nd level and reading the defensive end. When your offensive linemen can sustain blocks, you can move away from option and run more power/lead running game, which is exacly what we did Saturday vs Miami. In the first half alone I counted 18 run plays that were lead or power (pulling backside oline) lead plays. Only 4 run plays were option, with 3 being speed option near the goal-line and one zone read.

2nd, we completely confused the Miami defense with formations and personnel. In the first half we ran at least 15 different formations (I say "at least" because sometimes we run essentially the same formation, but change the backfield ie. under center in the I formation or shotgun pistol or shotgun single wing look). 11 times we had 2 TEs. 7 of our double TE sets had 1 RB. 4 had 2 RBs. 4 times we had no TEs and 4 WRs. 6 times we had 3 WRs and 2 RBs with no TEs. 11 times we used motion, motioning the FB 3 of those times. Once we shifted from one formation to a completely different formation while shifting the FB to the TE spot.

It was a showcase of the Scheme Doctor at work.

Any chance we did all of that just to mess with OU?

[bubbles4ksu]

In re-watching the first half a couple things stand out concerning some things we did to abuse Miami's defense.

1st, the offensive play-calling has much more trust in the offensive line this season. One of the reasons to run option football is that at times you can hide poor offensive line play because you are releasing an offensive lineman (particularly your tackles) to the 2nd level and reading the defensive end. When your offensive linemen can sustain blocks, you can move away from option and run more power/lead running game, which is exacly what we did Saturday vs Miami. In the first half alone I counted 18 run plays that were lead or power (pulling backside oline) lead plays. Only 4 run plays were option, with 3 being speed option near the goal-line and one zone read.

2nd, we completely confused the Miami defense with formations and personnel. In the first half we ran at least 15 different formations (I say "at least" because sometimes we run essentially the same formation, but change the backfield ie. under center in the I formation or shotgun pistol or shotgun single wing look). 11 times we had 2 TEs. 7 of our double TE sets had 1 RB. 4 had 2 RBs. 4 times we had no TEs and 4 WRs. 6 times we had 3 WRs and 2 RBs with no TEs. 11 times we used motion, motioning the FB 3 of those times. Once we shifted from one formation to a completely different formation while shifting the FB to the TE spot.

It was a showcase of the Scheme Doctor at work.

Any chance we did all of that just to mess with OU?

Not in the first half, no.

[kso_FAN]

In re-watching the first half a couple things stand out concerning some things we did to abuse Miami's defense.

1st, the offensive play-calling has much more trust in the offensive line this season. One of the reasons to run option football is that at times you can hide poor offensive line play because you are releasing an offensive lineman (particularly your tackles) to the 2nd level and reading the defensive end. When your offensive linemen can sustain blocks, you can move away from option and run more power/lead running game, which is exacly what we did Saturday vs Miami. In the first half alone I counted 18 run plays that were lead or power (pulling backside oline) lead plays. Only 4 run plays were option, with 3 being speed option near the goal-line and one zone read.

2nd, we completely confused the Miami defense with formations and personnel. In the first half we ran at least 15 different formations (I say "at least" because sometimes we run essentially the same formation, but change the backfield ie. under center in the I formation or shotgun pistol or shotgun single wing look). 11 times we had 2 TEs. 7 of our double TE sets had 1 RB. 4 had 2 RBs. 4 times we had no TEs and 4 WRs. 6 times we had 3 WRs and 2 RBs with no TEs. 11 times we used motion, motioning the FB 3 of those times. Once we shifted from one formation to a completely different formation while shifting the FB to the TE spot.

It was a showcase of the Scheme Doctor at work.

Any chance we did all of that just to mess with OU?

We do what we do, these types of numbers for formations and personnel are staples of Snyder ball. The reliance on the power running game is a sign of trusting the offensive line. The success running the ball would confirm that it is working.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

_FAN, Are you going to do your _FANalysis thing this season?

Just curious. No pressure (I'm sure your busy w/ your day job and all).

[kso_FAN]

_FAN, Are you going to do your _FANalysis thing this season?

Just curious. No pressure (I'm sure your busy w/ your day job and all).

Yes, planning some frame by frame breakdowns of several offensive plays from the Miami game.

Hopefully by Thursday.

[Ira Hayes]

Is Charlie Dickey the greatest O-Line coach in the history of O-Line coaches?  I'm leaning toward yes.

[kso_FAN]

After watching the game some other notables about the offensive play calling.

We know that we are a run first team, but the Miami game was especially so.

Of the 71 total offensive plays, 58 were called runs, or 82%.

Of the runs, 37 were power/lead running plays, mainly out of 2 RB sets, or 64% of total runs. Power/lead runs gained 167 rushing yards, 4.5 per.

16 of the power runs were for the QB*. 76 yards, 4.8 per.

Only 11 total runs were options, or 11%. And 2 of those were counter trey type runs off of zone read action, but those are basically power running game in spread formations. The 9 true option plays gained 61 yards, 6.8 per.

Of the 13 pass calls (1 scramble and 1 sack, thus 11 attempts), 9 were true drop back passes, 2 were bubble/slant looks, and 2 were play action. Drop back passing (including the scramble and sack) gained 91 yards, 13.0 per. Bubble/bubble slant gained 21 yards, 10.5 per. And play action gained 102 yards, or 51.0 per. Lockett's long gain was a bubble route, but it was off of QB lead run action. The other big play action was the throw to Trujillo, though motion/formation aided a bunch in that play also. (both will be featured in frame by frame breakdowns later this week.)

*Notable here, many people, including the commentators often call these "draws". IMO when you are leading with a back and/or pulling offensive linemen these are not true QB draws. We only ran 2 of those, and both came from empty backfield sets. A true QB draw is a designed run, but the offensive line sets up in pass protection. Most of our QB runs the offensive line is using true run blocking technique, downhill power blocking, or in our case often inside zone run block technique. FWIW, the 2 draws Klein ran gained 28 yards, 14.0 per.

[420seriouscat69]

Miami DC:   Well, what've you got?
Scheme Doctor:   Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam; spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam; or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Miami DC:   Have you got anything without spam?
Scheme Doctor:   Well, there's the Option of Liberty and spam, that's not got much spam in it.

God, I love me some MadCat.

[Stevesie60]

After watching the game some other notables about the offensive play calling.

We know that we are a run first team, but the Miami game was especially so.

Of the 71 total offensive plays, 58 were called runs, or 82%.

Of the runs, 37 were power/lead running plays, mainly out of 2 RB sets, or 64% of total runs. Power/lead runs gained 167 rushing yards, 4.5 per.

16 of the power runs were for the QB*. 76 yards, 4.8 per.

Only 11 total runs were options, or 11%. And 2 of those were counter trey type runs off of zone read action, but those are basically power running game in spread formations. The 9 true option plays gained 61 yards, 6.8 per.

Of the 13 pass calls (1 scramble and 1 sack, thus 11 attempts), 9 were true drop back passes, 2 were bubble/slant looks, and 2 were play action. Drop back passing (including the scramble and sack) gained 91 yards, 13.0 per. Bubble/bubble slant gained 21 yards, 10.5 per. And play action gained 102 yards, or 51.0 per. Lockett's long gain was a bubble route, but it was off of QB lead run action. The other big play action was the throw to Trujillo, though motion/formation aided a bunch in that play also. (both will be featured in frame by frame breakdowns later this week.)

*Notable here, many people, including the commentators often call these "draws". IMO when you are leading with a back and/or pulling offensive linemen these are not true QB draws. We only ran 2 of those, and both came from empty backfield sets. A true QB draw is a designed run, but the offensive line sets up in pass protection. Most of our QB runs the offensive line is using true run blocking technique, downhill power blocking, or in our case often inside zone run block technique. FWIW, the 2 draws Klein ran gained 28 yards, 14.0 per.

Great work, _FAN. No idea how you do it.

[Cartierfor3]

After watching the game some other notables about the offensive play calling.

We know that we are a run first team, but the Miami game was especially so.

Of the 71 total offensive plays, 58 were called runs, or 82%.

Of the runs, 37 were power/lead running plays, mainly out of 2 RB sets, or 64% of total runs. Power/lead runs gained 167 rushing yards, 4.5 per.

16 of the power runs were for the QB*. 76 yards, 4.8 per.

Only 11 total runs were options, or 11%. And 2 of those were counter trey type runs off of zone read action, but those are basically power running game in spread formations. The 9 true option plays gained 61 yards, 6.8 per.

Of the 13 pass calls (1 scramble and 1 sack, thus 11 attempts), 9 were true drop back passes, 2 were bubble/slant looks, and 2 were play action. Drop back passing (including the scramble and sack) gained 91 yards, 13.0 per. Bubble/bubble slant gained 21 yards, 10.5 per. And play action gained 102 yards, or 51.0 per. Lockett's long gain was a bubble route, but it was off of QB lead run action. The other big play action was the throw to Trujillo, though motion/formation aided a bunch in that play also. (both will be featured in frame by frame breakdowns later this week.)

*Notable here, many people, including the commentators often call these "draws". IMO when you are leading with a back and/or pulling offensive linemen these are not true QB draws. We only ran 2 of those, and both came from empty backfield sets. A true QB draw is a designed run, but the offensive line sets up in pass protection. Most of our QB runs the offensive line is using true run blocking technique, downhill power blocking, or in our case often inside zone run block technique. FWIW, the 2 draws Klein ran gained 28 yards, 14.0 per.

What category did you put "the play" in?

[Ira Hayes]

Is Charlie Dickey the greatest O-Line coach in the history of O-Line coaches?  I'm leaning toward yes.

This is a serious question.

Since Nick Saban has been at Alabama these teams have scored 30 or more points against him:

2007 - 38 - Arkansas (Bama won)
2007 - 41 - LSU (National Champion)
2008 - 31 - Florida (National Champion)
2008 - 31 - Utah (Undefeated but no NC - O-Line coached by Charlie Dickey)
2010 - 35 - South Carolina

That's all.  5 years. Only 5 teams have scored 30 points against them.

[Rage Against the McKee]

After watching the game some other notables about the offensive play calling.

We know that we are a run first team, but the Miami game was especially so.

Of the 71 total offensive plays, 58 were called runs, or 82%.

Of the runs, 37 were power/lead running plays, mainly out of 2 RB sets, or 64% of total runs. Power/lead runs gained 167 rushing yards, 4.5 per.

16 of the power runs were for the QB*. 76 yards, 4.8 per.

Only 11 total runs were options, or 11%. And 2 of those were counter trey type runs off of zone read action, but those are basically power running game in spread formations. The 9 true option plays gained 61 yards, 6.8 per.

Of the 13 pass calls (1 scramble and 1 sack, thus 11 attempts), 9 were true drop back passes, 2 were bubble/slant looks, and 2 were play action. Drop back passing (including the scramble and sack) gained 91 yards, 13.0 per. Bubble/bubble slant gained 21 yards, 10.5 per. And play action gained 102 yards, or 51.0 per. Lockett's long gain was a bubble route, but it was off of QB lead run action. The other big play action was the throw to Trujillo, though motion/formation aided a bunch in that play also. (both will be featured in frame by frame breakdowns later this week.)

*Notable here, many people, including the commentators often call these "draws". IMO when you are leading with a back and/or pulling offensive linemen these are not true QB draws. We only ran 2 of those, and both came from empty backfield sets. A true QB draw is a designed run, but the offensive line sets up in pass protection. Most of our QB runs the offensive line is using true run blocking technique, downhill power blocking, or in our case often inside zone run block technique. FWIW, the 2 draws Klein ran gained 28 yards, 14.0 per.

What was the percentage of run plays in the first half? I'm betting that stat is so skewed because the game was completely over shortly after halftime, but I'm definitely curious to see if that was the game plan going in.

[The Whale]

16 of the power runs were for the QB*. 76 yards, 4.8 per.

Would be ridiculously higher if the endzone wasn't stopping #life

[ZmoneyKSU]

_Fan, what's up with the giant hole in the middle of the secondary? Is it just a result of the zone we're playing?

[kso_FAN]

What category did you put "the play" in?

Technically it was supposed to be a type of reverse.

What was the percentage of run plays in the first half? I'm betting that stat is so skewed because the game was completely over shortly after halftime, but I'm definitely curious to see if that was the game plan going in.

78% run in the first half. And 59% of our first half runs were lead/power plays. The game plan remained pretty consistent throughout, though it did set up the 2 big play action passes in the 2nd half.

[kso_FAN]

_Fan, what's up with the giant hole in the middle of the secondary? Is it just a result of the zone we're playing?

Are you thinking over the course of the game, the big play to the TE early, or the drive before half?

I thought for the most part it was pretty good.

On the long pass to the TE we were in man and it was a great play call. Before half we did play a soft zone which opened things up too much for Miami and made it too easy for them, but that seems to be a consistent problem throughout football at any level in that situation.

But overall, I thought our pass defense was solid, especially considering the pressure we were able to get on the QB.

[ZmoneyKSU]

_Fan, what's up with the giant hole in the middle of the secondary? Is it just a result of the zone we're playing?

Are you thinking over the course of the game, the big play to the TE early, or the drive before half?

I thought for the most part it was pretty good.

On the long pass to the TE we were in man and it was a great play call. Before half we did play a soft zone which opened things up too much for Miami and made it too easy for them, but that seems to be a consistent problem throughout football at any level in that situation.

But overall, I thought our pass defense was solid, especially considering the pressure we were able to get on the QB.

There was the drive they had after the Klein INT where they drove down to inside the 10 mostly completing passes right in the middle of the field, behind our LBs. Of course we kept them out of the endzone despite Mueller getting the personal foul. I just rewatched that part last night, and it stood out to me.  Agree the pass defense was improved from last week though.