Aurora Shooting

[Paul Moscow]

Let's cut through the bullshit, okay?  If some one in the crowd had a gun and was accurate and willing to shoot then yes, it would have been a good thing that night.  Some people would have been saved.  I wish there was some one in that particular theater who had a gun.  Anyone arguing otherwise is kidding themselves.

The issue, though, is that a culture wherein people habitually carry around guns to movie theaters and churches and college campuses and wherever a mass murder might next occur is probably more dangerous and definitely makes people (myself included) uneasy.  I'm trying to imagine how that society might look, and I'm sure people like Heinballz and myself have two very different visions.

In my opinion I think it's extremely unhealthy for a society that encourages a sort of day-to-day individual quasi-brinksmanship/mutually assured destruction.

You should vacation to Montana or Wyoming, then form an informed an opinion.

Not a bad idea.  Those places are good cross-sections of our society.

Well they're just the other side.  For every Chicago or Baltimore there is a Helena, MT or a Cody, WY. IMO, KS/Kansas City are a good middle ground between those two cultures.  I will say I've never felt unsafe when I vacation up there, aside from maybe unintentionally (or intentionally) insulting some bar patron.  Those are places where you can still get decked and they don't call the cops.  Just take your licks and GTFO.

Anyway, people up there carry for different reasons than someone in Aurora would.  I'm not saying it's safer up there because people carry guns; but it's probably safer because there aren't crazy people like in high density population areas.

You know they measure for simple factors like population density, right?

#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3


#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6


#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1


#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9


#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50


#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2


#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#21, Kansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5


#40, California
Gun deaths per 100,000: 9


#45, New York
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1


#46, New Jersey
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2

[Pete]

Wait, that means that most rural places really do have the most gun deaths!

[Paul Moscow]

Wait, that means that most rural places really do have the most gun deaths!

YOU GOT IT PETE!! 

[DQ12]

More people per capita carrying guns = more gun deaths???

 

[star seed 7]

Well, case solved, take away them guns barrack.

[EMAWmeister]

BUT I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA AND BEAR ARMS AND STUFF

[HeinBallz]

The "we should all carry guns" argument is so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and over blown. Cool, so anytime someone gets in a argument, they just wip out their pistol, and end it. 

Is that would you would do if you had a gun?  No wonder you find fault with this logic with you're warped perspective...  I've never really had issues with self esteem... and carrying a gun doesn't make me feel powerful. But it does make me feel prepared.

[star seed 7]

Look at Kansas working the middle like a boss as always.

[EMAWmeister]

The "we should all carry guns" argument is so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and over blown. Cool, so anytime someone gets in a argument, they just wip out their pistol, and end it. 

Is that would you would do if you had a gun?  No wonder you find fault with this logic with you're warped perspective...  I've never really had issues with self esteem... and carrying a gun doesn't make me feel powerful. But it does make me feel prepared.

I bet 7/10 people with a CCL piss down their leg if they actually have to shoot someone

[HeinBallz]

Let's cut through the bullshit, okay?  If some one in the crowd had a gun and was accurate and willing to shoot then yes, it would have been a good thing that night.  Some people would have been saved.  I wish there was some one in that particular theater who had a gun.  Anyone arguing otherwise is kidding themselves.

The issue, though, is that a culture wherein people habitually carry around guns to movie theaters and churches and college campuses and wherever a mass murder might next occur is probably more dangerous and definitely makes people (myself included) uneasy.  I'm trying to imagine how that society might look, and I'm sure people like Heinballz and myself have two very different visions.

In my opinion I think it's extremely unhealthy for a society that encourages a sort of day-to-day individual quasi-brinksmanship/mutually assured destruction.

You should vacation to Montana or Wyoming, then form an informed an opinion.

Not a bad idea.  Those places are good cross-sections of our society.

Well they're just the other side.  For every Chicago or Baltimore there is a Helena, MT or a Cody, WY. IMO, KS/Kansas City are a good middle ground between those two cultures.  I will say I've never felt unsafe when I vacation up there, aside from maybe unintentionally (or intentionally) insulting some bar patron.  Those are places where you can still get decked and they don't call the cops.  Just take your licks and GTFO.

Anyway, people up there carry for different reasons than someone in Aurora would.  I'm not saying it's safer up there because people carry guns; but it's probably safer because there aren't crazy people like in high density population areas.

You know they measure for simple factors like population density, right?

#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3


#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6


#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1


#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9


#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50


#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2


#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#21, Kansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5


#40, California
Gun deaths per 100,000: 9


#45, New York
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1


#46, New Jersey
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2

How many of those places that have a large % of citizens with CCL's?  ... You know, the people that are armed and ACTUALLY DO FOLLOW THE LAW?

All I know is Butler county is the highest percentage of people with CCL's in Kansas and I rarely hear of gun violence here. 

[_33]

Let's cut through the bullshit, okay?  If some one in the crowd had a gun and was accurate and willing to shoot then yes, it would have been a good thing that night.  Some people would have been saved.  I wish there was some one in that particular theater who had a gun.  Anyone arguing otherwise is kidding themselves.

The issue, though, is that a culture wherein people habitually carry around guns to movie theaters and churches and college campuses and wherever a mass murder might next occur is probably more dangerous and definitely makes people (myself included) uneasy.  I'm trying to imagine how that society might look, and I'm sure people like Heinballz and myself have two very different visions.

In my opinion I think it's extremely unhealthy for a society that encourages a sort of day-to-day individual quasi-brinksmanship/mutually assured destruction.

You should vacation to Montana or Wyoming, then form an informed an opinion.

Not a bad idea.  Those places are good cross-sections of our society.

Well they're just the other side.  For every Chicago or Baltimore there is a Helena, MT or a Cody, WY. IMO, KS/Kansas City are a good middle ground between those two cultures.  I will say I've never felt unsafe when I vacation up there, aside from maybe unintentionally (or intentionally) insulting some bar patron.  Those are places where you can still get decked and they don't call the cops.  Just take your licks and GTFO.

Anyway, people up there carry for different reasons than someone in Aurora would.  I'm not saying it's safer up there because people carry guns; but it's probably safer because there aren't crazy people like in high density population areas.

You know they measure for simple factors like population density, right?

#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3


#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6


#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1


#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9


#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50


#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2


#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#21, Kansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5


#40, California
Gun deaths per 100,000: 9


#45, New York
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1


#46, New Jersey
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2

Probably a lot of them in the rural areas are hunting related.

[DQ12]

The "we should all carry guns" argument is so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and over blown. Cool, so anytime someone gets in a argument, they just wip out their pistol, and end it. 

Is that would you would do if you had a gun?  No wonder you find fault with this logic with you're warped perspective...  I've never really had issues with self esteem... and carrying a gun doesn't make me feel powerful. But it does make me feel prepared.

I bet 7/10 people with a CCL piss down their leg if they actually have to shoot someone

Hell, i definitely would.

I don't think I could go from sharing a 2 for 20 with Stevesie at my local Applebees to OKAY TIME TO SHOOT AND KILL THIS CRAZY PERSON WHO ALSO HAS A GUN in an instant. 

[HeinBallz]

I'd rather know I had the option to defend myself than be angry that I wasn't allowed to.

[star seed 7]

You have to be super paranoid to think you need a gun on you at all times.

I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow.

[Emo EMAW]

Let's cut through the bullshit, okay?  If some one in the crowd had a gun and was accurate and willing to shoot then yes, it would have been a good thing that night.  Some people would have been saved.  I wish there was some one in that particular theater who had a gun.  Anyone arguing otherwise is kidding themselves.

The issue, though, is that a culture wherein people habitually carry around guns to movie theaters and churches and college campuses and wherever a mass murder might next occur is probably more dangerous and definitely makes people (myself included) uneasy.  I'm trying to imagine how that society might look, and I'm sure people like Heinballz and myself have two very different visions.

In my opinion I think it's extremely unhealthy for a society that encourages a sort of day-to-day individual quasi-brinksmanship/mutually assured destruction.

You should vacation to Montana or Wyoming, then form an informed an opinion.

Not a bad idea.  Those places are good cross-sections of our society.

Well they're just the other side.  For every Chicago or Baltimore there is a Helena, MT or a Cody, WY. IMO, KS/Kansas City are a good middle ground between those two cultures.  I will say I've never felt unsafe when I vacation up there, aside from maybe unintentionally (or intentionally) insulting some bar patron.  Those are places where you can still get decked and they don't call the cops.  Just take your licks and GTFO.

Anyway, people up there carry for different reasons than someone in Aurora would.  I'm not saying it's safer up there because people carry guns; but it's probably safer because there aren't crazy people like in high density population areas.

You know they measure for simple factors like population density, right?

#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3


#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6


#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1


#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9


#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15


#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50


#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2


#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5


#21, Kansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5


#40, California
Gun deaths per 100,000: 9


#45, New York
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.1


#46, New Jersey
Gun deaths per 100,000: 5.2

How many times has a movie theatre or a high school or a college classroom been shot up in MT or WY?  That's the question.

[HeinBallz]

You have to be super paranoid to think you need a gun on you at all times.

I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow.

I don't carry a gun on me at all times... but I have the option to.   The only time I've carried a gun on me is traveling on vacation & stopping at rest-stops.  I would not have had a gun on me in a movie theater and I would have ran like a mother rough rider.

[Trim]

You have to be super paranoid to think you need a gun on you at all times.

I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14197.0

[star seed 7]

You have to be super paranoid to think you need a gun on you at all times.

I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14197.0

My dad has a cabin on 100 acres out in the middle of nowhere Kansas, and when I go sleep there it always scares the crap out of me when I lay down and find a kimber .45 (same pistol LA SWAT uses im told) 2 inches from my head.

[HeinBallz]

You have to be super paranoid to think you need a gun on you at all times.

I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14197.0

That thread is all sorts of lol

[Fedor]

The "we should all carry guns" argument is so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and over blown. Cool, so anytime someone gets in a argument, they just wip out their pistol, and end it. 

Is that would you would do if you had a gun?  No wonder you find fault with this logic with you're warped perspective...  I've never really had issues with self esteem... and carrying a gun doesn't make me feel powerful. But it does make me feel prepared.

I bet 7/10 people with a CCL piss down their leg if they actually have to shoot someone

How many people do you know with a CCL?

[nicname]

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/former-k-state-student-allie-young-shot-severely-wounded-in-aurora-theater-1.2748462

He went after EMAW. 

[420seriouscat69]

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/former-k-state-student-allie-young-shot-severely-wounded-in-aurora-theater-1.2748462

He went after EMAW.

That mother rough rider, crap just got personal. Buying batman suit now and ordering architect layout on his prison as we speak.

[michigancat]

The thought of going on a road trip and taking the time to hide a gun in your pants before you go to the bathroom is kind of a funny visual.

Are dicks blown off at rest stops more often in states with conceal carry? (population adjusted)

[EMAWmeister]

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/former-k-state-student-allie-young-shot-severely-wounded-in-aurora-theater-1.2748462

He went after EMAW.

That mother rough rider, crap just got personal. Buying batman suit now and ordering architect layout on his prison as we speak.

Batman still doesn't kill people, Fanning.

[420seriouscat69]

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/former-k-state-student-allie-young-shot-severely-wounded-in-aurora-theater-1.2748462

He went after EMAW.

That mother rough rider, crap just got personal. Buying batman suit now and ordering architect layout on his prison as we speak.

Batman still doesn't kill people, Fanning.

Batman does what's needed in the new era. Look it up. Plus, didn't he kill the joker in the last movie? I'm too lazy to look it up.