Breaking Bad Season 5 Discussion so People like Rusty can Avoid Spoilers

[EMAWmeister]

This is a pretty good take from someone who didn't like it:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

This is a pretty good take from someone who didn't like it:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html

So many quotes in this article made me want to punch that dumb broad in the face.

[Stevesie60]

he bought the rotating gun kit, didnt he? it showed it all set up and packed and stuff. also he had all day to set it up and test it, they showed that. hes not some brilliant mechanical engineer, hes just a smart dude who can rig up a device. he rigged a bomb to kill gus, is he some brilliant explosives guy? no. hes just smart.

the gun sprayed the whole room pretty quickly and then came back around a few times. even walt didnt have time to get out of the way and he knew it was coming.

the ending was rough ridin' awesome. walt was happy and the music was perfect.

I just saw the gun in the trunk. I didn't realize Walt ordered up a special car trunk-mounted rotating gun turret, but if he did, then that dude from Deadwood can get anything. Impressive. Still think a big bomb in the trunk would have been more "realistic."

TV shows' #1 goal is not to be realistic, you're thinking of documentaries.

Also, sorry to break it to you Tonya, but Vince Gilligan said Walt was planning on killing Jesse until he saw the shape he was in. Some critics have complained about the tidiness in which everything was settled. I thought that upon my first time watching it. One critic even thinks Walt died frozen in the car, and this was all his imagination of what he WANTED to do. It definitely doesn't seem to fit with how the rest of the series went down. I think when Walt embraced that he did it all for him, we were dealing with a completely different animal, both Walt and the show. In no other episode would Walt be able to shoot Jack without any hesitation after he mentioned he wouldn't be able to get all that money back.

Edit: EMAWmeister just posted the article I was talking about.

[Stevesie60]

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

well what does this vince gilligan guy even know about this show?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

10.3 million viewers last night, damn.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

also, wasnt that box the jesse was making in the flashback covered in one of the earlier seasons?

someone smarter than that dumbass journalism major help me out here. walt asks if jesse has ever paid attention in school or taken pride in something (something like that, i think) and jesse tells him he made a box in shop class in high school and he loved it.

i think thats what the flashback was, but ill see if i can find something about the scene im talking about.

[EMAWmeister]

also, wasnt that box the jesse was making in the flashback covered in one of the earlier seasons?

someone smarter than that dumbass journalism major help me out here. walt asks if jesse has ever paid attention in school or taken pride in something (something like that, i think) and jesse tells him he made a box in shop class in high school and he loved it.

i think thats what the flashback was, but ill see if i can find something about the scene im talking about.

I think you're right. I remember Jesse talking about being passionate about that but I don't remember if it was at his rehab meetings or to walt

[Tobias]

the "instructions printed off the internet" scene in the first episode flash forward sure make a lot more sense now

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

good call, 'meister. its from his therapy sessions. season 3 episode 9:

Group Leader: Jesse, last time, you seemed down about your job at the Laundromat. Let me ask something, if you had the chance to do anything you wanted, what would you do?
Jesse Pinkman: Make more green, man. A lot more.
Group Leader: Forget about money. Assume you have all you want.
Jesse Pinkman: I don't know. I guess I would make something.
Group Leader: Like what?
Jesse Pinkman: I don't know if it even matters, but... work with my hands, I guess.
Group Leader: Building things, like carpentry or bricklaying or something?
Jesse Pinkman: I took this vo-tech class in high school, woodworking. I took a lot of vo-tech classes, because it was just big jerk-off, but this one time I had this teacher by the name of... Mr... Mr. Pike. I guess he was like a Marine or something before he got old. He was hard hearing. My project for his class was to make this wooden box. You know, like a small, just like a... like a box, you know, to put stuff in. So I wanted to get the thing done as fast as possible. I figured I could cut classes for the rest of the semester and he couldn't flunk me as long as I, you know, made the thing. So I finished it in a couple days. And it looked pretty lame, but it worked. You know, for putting in or whatnot. So when I showed it to Mr. Pike for my grade, he looked at it and said: "Is that the best you can do?" At first I thought to myself "Hell yeah, bitch. Now give me a D and shut up so I can go blaze one with my boys." I don't know. Maybe it was the way he said it, but... it was like he wasn't exactly saying it sucked. He was just asking me honestly, "Is that all you got?" And for some reason, I thought to myself: "Yeah, man, I can do better." So I started from scratch. I made another, then another. And by the end of the semester, by like box number five, I had built this thing. You should have seen it. It was insane. I mean, I built it out of Peruvian walnut with inlaid zebrawood. It was fitted with pegas, no screws. I sanded it for days, until it was smooth as glass. Then I rubbed all the wood with tung oil so it was rich and dark. It even smelled good. You know, you put nose in it and breathed in, it was... it was perfect.
Group Leader: What happened to the box?
Jesse Pinkman: I... I gave it to my mom.
Group Leader: Nice. You know what I'm gonna say, don't you? It's never too late. They have art co-ops that offer classes, adult extension program at the University.
Jesse Pinkman: You know, I didn't give the box to my mom. I traded it for an ounce of weed.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

You know what would have been even cooler? What if, instead of just whipping up a quick car-trunk-of-death-rotating-gun-turret, the Deadwood guy had simply converted the entire car into a Batmobile-style ROV (using parts from the remote control car outside Hank's house, of course) which Walt would then remotely steer in to kill the nazis? Then Walt would strap on his jet pack to retrieve (or kill, still not sure on this part), Jesse.

I'm sure I'm leaving a few out, but which part do you think was most implausible?
(a) Walt's amazing trunk-mounted automated gun turret?
(b) Jesse's ricin revelation?
(c) Walt knowing exactly where to bury the meth tanks for the train heist before Lydia informed them of the location of the train car?

[Stevesie60]

All of it is implausible, that's why it didn't happen in real life.

[hemmy]

Hey jackasses, Jim Beaver is not the Deadwood guy, he's the Supernatural guy.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

if you want to watch a realistic show about real life meth users and drug dealers, go watch cops or true life or something. its rough ridin' sad and no one watches it.

warning: theres minorities on it, you rough ridin' racist.

[chum1]

the entire finale is a bit of a victory lap, one that ends with Walt walking fondly amongst his meth equipment like he’s goddamn Jean-Luc Picard on the bridge of the decommissioned Enterprise.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/breaking-bad-recap-felina-finale/

[ChiComCat]

he bought the rotating gun kit, didnt he? it showed it all set up and packed and stuff. also he had all day to set it up and test it, they showed that. hes not some brilliant mechanical engineer, hes just a smart dude who can rig up a device. he rigged a bomb to kill gus, is he some brilliant explosives guy? no. hes just smart.

the gun sprayed the whole room pretty quickly and then came back around a few times. even walt didnt have time to get out of the way and he knew it was coming.

the ending was rough ridin' awesome. walt was happy and the music was perfect.

I just saw the gun in the trunk. I didn't realize Walt ordered up a special car trunk-mounted rotating gun turret, but if he did, then that dude from Deadwood can get anything. Impressive. Still think a big bomb in the trunk would have been more "realistic."

TV shows' #1 goal is not to be realistic, you're thinking of documentaries.

Also, sorry to break it to you Tonya, but Vince Gilligan said Walt was planning on killing Jesse until he saw the shape he was in. Some critics have complained about the tidiness in which everything was settled. I thought that upon my first time watching it. One critic even thinks Walt died frozen in the car, and this was all his imagination of what he WANTED to do. It definitely doesn't seem to fit with how the rest of the series went down. I think when Walt embraced that he did it all for him, we were dealing with a completely different animal, both Walt and the show. In no other episode would Walt be able to shoot Jack without any hesitation after he mentioned he wouldn't be able to get all that money back.

Edit: EMAWmeister just posted the article I was talking about.

I think the tidiness can be made more reasonable when you also realize that its a man at the end of his life purposefully trying to tidy up his life.  I don't get the point of "he's in town" and the cops watching the houses when he just walks in and out as he pleases, but whatever.  Probably just so they can have him in the kitchen for the phone call.

[Stevesie60]

[star seed 7]

Hey jackasses, Jim Beaver is not the Deadwood guy, he's the Supernatural guy.

jim beaver is def the deadwood guy.  well, more accurately he's ellsworth.

no one has even heard of supersucky or whatever you called it.

[Mr Bread]

Hey jackasses, Jim Beaver is not the Deadwood guy, he's the Supernatural guy.

jim beaver is def the deadwood guy.  well, more accurately he's ellsworth.

no one has even heard of supersucky or whatever you called it.

You're both dumbasses.  He's Ricky Roe's dad from Blue Chips. 

[TownieCat]

 

[Belvis Noland]

So, did everybody on here immediately realize that Lydia had been ricin'd at the coffee shop? 

'cause I didn't and felt like a huge dumbass.  Get all the way to the nazi scene and I'm like, "but, who's gonna get ricin'd?"  And, Ms. Belvis, who only casually watches show, was like "that's what was in Lydia's tea, dumbass."  Oh man.   

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

So, did everybody on here immediately realize that Lydia had been ricin'd at the coffee shop? 

'cause I didn't and felt like a huge dumbass.  Get all the way to the nazi scene and I'm like, "but, who's gonna get ricin'd?"  And, Ms. Belvis, who only casually watches show, was like "that's what was in Lydia's tea, dumbass."  Oh man.   

I hope you got up to piss when they zoomed in on the sugar packet going into her tea.

[EMAWmeister]

I knew it just because she always asks for stevia, and last night it was clearly labeled and at the table already.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

omg omg omg how did walt get it into the packet without it already being opened? is he some sort of super genius?

this show is so unrealistic!!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

This is a pretty good take from someone who didn't like it:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html

Damn, she's right. The whole final episode played out like a revenge/farewell fantasy. So what if the final episode played out exactly the same, except the final scene shifted back to Walt, frozen to death in the snowed-in car, and you realize everything you just witnessed in that final episode was Walt's dying fantasy? That would have made for an awesome ending.