So a guy walks into Eric Holder's polling precinct . . .

[ednksu]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years.

The only reason there is an expanding wealth gap is because of local, state, and federal government intervention and regulation. Trying to start a business that manufactures anything is becoming nearly impossible, especially in places like California, which is the failed model for Obama's second term. The government needs to get out of private business. ban lobbyists, and invoke term limits, then we'll see some new entrepreneurs that can compete with the evil corporations.

[ednksu]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years.

The only reason there is an expanding wealth gap is because of local, state, and federal government intervention and regulation. Trying to start a business that manufactures anything is becoming nearly impossible, especially in places like California, which is the failed model for Obama's second term. The government needs to get out of private business. ban lobbyists, and invoke term limits, then we'll see some new entrepreneurs that can compete with the evil corporations.

LOL rough ridin' seriously. 

The biggest threat to the American democracy was deregulation from the Glass–Steagall Act being repealed.  I like how you hide behind talking points about de-reg and term limits when your demi gods on the right don't favor that.  You claim to hate lobbying but you fight to the death to support corporate person hood.  You sir are a contradiction. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years.

The only reason there is an expanding wealth gap is because of local, state, and federal government intervention and regulation. Trying to start a business that manufactures anything is becoming nearly impossible, especially in places like California, which is the failed model for Obama's second term. The government needs to get out of private business. ban lobbyists, and invoke term limits, then we'll see some new entrepreneurs that can compete with the evil corporations.

LOL rough ridin' seriously. 

The biggest threat to the American democracy was deregulation from the Glass–Steagall Act being repealed.  I like how you hide behind talking points about de-reg and term limits when your demi gods on the right don't favor that.  You claim to hate lobbying but you fight to the death to support corporate person hood.  You sir are a contradiction.

WTF? I have never claimed any of these things. Clinton signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and Barney Frank defended it while many from the Bush admin went to congress warning of the impending housing crisis. I guess I needed to be more specific. The EPA and it's unbridled regulation ridiculousness  is crushing start-up manufacturing. I have been a champion for term limits for many years. The demi-gods on the left could have passed term limits in 2009 or 2010 if they had any interest.

[Stupid Fitz]

It is pretty stupid that you have to have an ID for pretty much everything except for voting for the people that make it so you have to have an ID for pretty much everything.   

[kstatefreak42]

Everybody here needs to endorse Liberty. Something we all can agree on.

[ednksu]

Everybody here needs to endorse Liberty. Something we all can agree on.

Wants liberty for everyone

gargles the balls of corporate oppression

[kstatefreak42]

 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years.

Edna, based on your logic, because it's less than 1% of the people we're talking about, the issue is not material, not even a real issue, and any argument to the contrary is "counter-factual".

Pretty awesome that your idea for closing the "wealth gap" in this country is to penalize income, rather than grow it.  Loser mentality.

[ednksu]

Who cares, its less than 1% of the secret service. Not worth addressing at all.  We've got bigger fish to fry, like the .3% of the country earning over a million a year, those evil rough rider's are making us regular folk poor, get 'em!!  and all of us middle classers will be rich.

see this is where you lose people.  Its clear that you don't understand the growing wealth gap in this country.  A million dollars a year isn't crap anymore compared to the top echelons of this country.  But thats fine.  Your part is recreating the 1920s with your measures.  I mean it was great for a good 8 years.

Edna, based on your logic, because it's less than 1% of the people we're talking about, the issue is not material, not even a real issue, and any argument to the contrary is "counter-factual".

Pretty awesome that your idea for closing the "wealth gap" in this country is to penalize income, rather than grow it.  Loser mentality.

yet more proof you have no idea what is going on

You see counter factual arguments are when you take situations which have known factors and change them to something which has NEVER happened before in order to extrapolate a fantasy world you would like to live in.

The problem is that we have seen these issues before, IN AMERICA, and we can go off of historical precedent.  The last time the wealth gap was this large in the history of the US was before and during the great depression.  The last time we allowed banks to be in combination with investments and securities it was right before the great depression (what the Glass–Steagall Act prohibited). The last time we had this kind of growing disconnection between fair taxation of the rich and real middle class Americans was right before the great depression.  These are facts which cannot be argued.  You might be able to pull some of your right wing talking points out of your ass to say that the faucets were just about to begin the trickle down to starving Americans right before that evil socialist Roosevelt intervened.

[kstatefreak42]

Ya.

[HeinBallz]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

[HeinBallz]

Pushing anyone's agenda is wrong. Obama is dirty and Romney is dirty - they don't have to have the same agenda for them to have the same motives for being president.  I don't think it's crazy to suggest that they both have other peoples interest ahead of the American public. 

Are you suggesting there aren't media darlings in this or any other election?


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[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Pushing anyone's agenda is wrong. Obama is dirty and Romney is dirty - they don't have to have the same agenda for them to have the same motives for being president.  I don't think it's crazy to suggest that they both have other peoples interest ahead of the American public. 

Are you suggesting there aren't media darlings in this or any other election?


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Political agenda, not personal. Although, Obama takes his political agenda personally.

The media has been in the tank for Obama since 2007, and still is. Notice how he lashes out any reporter that asks him tough, thoughtful questions. He has always been given a pass. I haven't been able to figure out why nearly every media outlet has glommed on to him, but they will put out rumors and publish innuendo if it will further his cause, while ignoring facts.

[HeinBallz]

And the media selected Romney as the GOP front runner because.....  ?

[HeinBallz]

Don't say delegates - he had the media in his back pocket LONG before any votes were tallied.

[kstatefreak42]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

They would both continue the spending, they would both continue taking away our civil liberties, they would both be starting wars and occupying countries. The rhetoric may be different, but they serve the same people. It was like Obama and Georgia Bush.

[ednksu]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

I could see maybe national healthcare, but what other national issues that truly have an impact on the course of the nation to the two parties/candidates disagree on?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

I could see maybe national healthcare, but what other national issues that truly have an impact on the course of the nation to the two parties/candidates disagree on?

Taxes, illegal immigration, cap & trade, scope of government, and entitlement reform, just off the top of my head.

[p1k3]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

I could see maybe national healthcare, but what other national issues that truly have an impact on the course of the nation to the two parties/candidates disagree on?

Taxes, illegal immigration, cap & trade, scope of government, and entitlement reform, just off the top of my head.

you dont know this. Romney will flip flop to wherever the money leads him. I dont have a problem that hes rich, or how he got rich, but hes a greedy scum bag. The way he treated that medicinal marijuana patient in that youtube video says all you need to know about his character.

[ednksu]

The way I see it, this is all really irrelevant until people unplug themselves from the media and research candidates on their own. If sheeple didn't exist, half of these candidates wouldn't make it past two weeks of campaigning and you wouldn't hear outcries from people wanting Sarah rough ridin' Palin to be on the VP ticket.  Most people I know that are supporting Romney have the "anyone but Obama" mentality and they leach on to who the media tells them is the likely Gop nomination because well... "he's the lesser of two evils".  You want to complain about this being rigged?  It's not because of fraudulent voting, it's because of rough ridin' morons doing what they're told to do.

Obama & Romney are the same; two lefts don't make a right.


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This is just so wrong. I would prefer someone other than Romney, but trying to claim Romney and Obama push the same agenda in the next term is insanity.

I could see maybe national healthcare, but what other national issues that truly have an impact on the course of the nation to the two parties/candidates disagree on?

Taxes, illegal immigration, cap & trade, scope of government, and entitlement reform, just off the top of my head.

the inherent problem is that the track records don't bear that out. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Liberals, providing solutions to nonexistant problems and refusing to acknowledge the existence of real ones for decades.

Lets face it, they don't give a eff about anyones rights or well being. Edna is just yet another mouthpiece for their unreality.

[kstatefreak42]

Americans elected Obama in 2008 to not be George W. Bush. Bush was reviled by voters for what they believed was an unnecessary war in Iraq, for spying on American citizens, for being too cozy with Wall Street, and for assuming executive powers not delegated to him by the Congress. Obama promised to change all of that. Four years later, Obama has started at least three new wars while expanding the boondoggle in Afghanistan. He has continued spying on Americans and sought to expand this authority in the courts, CISPA ACTA SOPA. He has filled his cabinet with Wall Street insiders and has bested George W. Bush on expanding executive powers. Obama actually claims the right to arrest, to indefinitely detain and even to assassinate American citizens that he deems dangerous - all without due process. The Banking Cartels give the orders to the president. And then he follows. Barack is the PERFECT example of this. Thats why Ron Paul is so dangerous 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Americans elected Obama in 2008 to not be George W. Bush. Bush was reviled by voters for what they believed was an unnecessary war in Iraq, for spying on American citizens, for being too cozy with Wall Street, and for assuming executive powers not delegated to him by the Congress. Obama promised to change all of that. Four years later, Obama has started at least three new wars while expanding the boondoggle in Afghanistan. He has continued spying on Americans and sought to expand this authority in the courts, CISPA ACTA SOPA. He has filled his cabinet with Wall Street insiders and has bested George W. Bush on expanding executive powers. Obama actually claims the right to arrest, to indefinitely detain and even to assassinate American citizens that he deems dangerous - all without due process. The Banking Cartels give the orders to the president. And then he follows. Barack is the PERFECT example of this. Thats why Ron Paul is so dangerous 

This is why it is so important that the Paulites help to rid the country of Obama. He has doubled down on everything for which GWB was reviled by both republicans and democrats. Maybe Romney won't close down every military base outside of the US, but he will be infinitely better for the economy. A vote for Ron Paul in the general election is a vote for more spending and less liberty, but you can say you voted for him.