Assistant Coach Rumor Thread

[Dr Rick Daris]

Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.

Let's be real here, Te chose $400K.

True, but did huggs offer him 400k to leave for WVU?  That's actually another reason that Frank should get credit for 'Te.

or why the AD at the time should get credit. either way, it was a pretty freaking outstanding steal and something that current admin and staff could never pull off in a million years.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, it was a steal for awhile, but then rapidly distentigrated into TeNearly$500K with virtually nothing in the pipeline to show for it . . . so don't be a dumbass and think that Oliver Luck or any other AD isn't going to look at the payroll number and then the recruiting pipeline and ask why the eff they're paying some assistant nearly $500K to recruit no one.

Posted with no spell check so eff it.

Te$1M would have been worth it. He brought Michael Beasley to Kansas State. No other head coach or assistant could have done that.

[catzacker]

Yeah, it was a steal for awhile, but then rapidly distentigrated into TeNearly$500K with virtually nothing in the pipeline to show for it . . . so don't be a dumbass and think that Oliver Luck or any other AD isn't going to look at the payroll number and then the recruiting pipeline and ask why the eff they're paying some assistant nearly $500K to recruit no one.

Posted with no spell check so eff it.

when 'Te would have left, the pipeline was flowing. no one knew that bell and beasley would fallout and make malone mad.  'Te wasn't producing after Wally and Gruds.  I wasn't sad when he left.  Frank's staff at the end is just as bad as the staff weber has assembled, imo.  oscar's is possibly marginally better.

[ChiComCat]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

[Mixed-Nutz]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

[slimz]

I think it's pretty impressive that a national-championship caliber coach with 14 years' D-I head coaching experience, multiple conference titles, and the accolades from fellow coaches that Weber has received over the past month can manage to mostly-assemble a coaching staff in a month's time that is equal to or a bit better than the staff assembled by a high school coach who abused his players.

[ChiComCat]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

[MakeItRain]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

[ChiComCat]

I didn't even realize he had the second DUI.  Maryland has a decent class coming in, though I don't know who Hill was responsible for.  Maybe 4* and 3* out of Mass

[Mixed-Nutz]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point. 

[MakeItRain]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

[Mixed-Nutz]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?

[Mixed-Nutz]

Chris Lowery:

just got done talking with B-More's finest -LOL!!!!!

So oscar Shingler is in town for a Interview??? 

[MakeItRain]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?

Somewhere our lines got crossed, I wasn't referring to the current staff either.  I was simply stating that Hill is through as an elite recruiter and giving my reasons for the opinion.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?

Somewhere our lines got crossed, I wasn't referring to the current staff either.  I was simply stating that Hill is through as an elite recruiter and giving my reasons for the opinion.

Agree, that is solid reasoning.   

[Barry McCockner]

This isn't the same since pissclams quit narrating it.

Insert "butthurt" every 5th word if it makes you feel better.  All he has done for the past few weeks is play butthurt police.

[sys]

this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.

[pissclams]

This isn't the same since pissclams quit narrating it.

Insert "butthurt" every 5th word if it makes you feel better.  All he has done for the past few weeks is play butthurt police.

it was never by choice

[MakeItRain]

this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.

I'm not even going to get into the severity of what DUIs are and aren't, but getting two when you're rich and in the position he's in, is incredibly poor judgment at best and is absolutely open to scrutiny when he's walking into the living rooms of 16 year olds and their family pitching themselves.  I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?

[Belvis Noland]

I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?

    

But yeah, I imagine part of the recruiting message is instilling some level of discipline, responsibility, and accountability.  Coming from a guy with 2 DUIs, the message rings a bit hollow. 

[kso_FAN]

this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.

I'm not even going to get into the severity of what DUIs are and aren't, but getting two when you're rich and in the position he's in, is incredibly poor judgment at best and is absolutely open to scrutiny when he's walking into the living rooms of 16 year olds and their family pitching themselves.  I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?

If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

[MakeItRain]

I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?

    

But yeah, I imagine part of the recruiting message is instilling some level of discipline, responsibility, and accountability.  Coming from a guy with 2 DUIs, the message rings a bit hollow.

exactly

[sys]

If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

I agree with sys for two reasons:

A. My doing so immediately undermines him
B. The consequences associated with not hurting somebody while driving with a bac of .08 or higher are draconian and asinine when compared to the consequences for driving into someone and killing them while just being an inattentive moron.

[MakeItRain]

If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

I agree with sys for two reasons:

A. My doing so immediately undermines him
B. The consequences associated with not hurting somebody while driving with a bac of .08 or higher are draconian and asinine when compared to the consequences for driving into someone and killing them while just being an inattentive moron.

You can acknowledge the seriousness of drunk driving yet at the same time admonish the random and nonsensical nature of DUI enforcement and traffic violations in general.

Anyway as far as Hill goes, none of that is important, its an issue solely of awful judgment.  He's aware of how society views drunk driving and he's aware of what public image he needs to portray to be an effective recruiter, yet he seemingly doesn't care enough to get rough ridin' car service.  He's made nearly 2 million dollars in the last 5 years of his life, there are no credible excuses.