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Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 07, 2012, 05:34:31 PM

Current Staff
HC - BW
AC - CL
AC - ???
AC - ???
DBO - ???
Other Dudes - DK, ???, ???, ???


Rumored:
Jerrence Howard - saw it on twitter from some guy, not staying at UI, not going to KU as many thought, doubt he's taking the year off

Anthony Beane - goEMAW tardfest created and destroyed this rumor

Zeigler - some guy who played at k-state for a couple of seasons 25 years ago, this is what passes as "k-state connections" at goEMAW, has a son who can ball

Price - some dood BW hauls around with him

oscar Pearl - I made this up, show cause would make it hard to recruit, dood is electric though


Any others?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: gokatgo on April 07, 2012, 05:44:57 PM


Zeigler - some guy who coached at k-state for 1 season 13 years ago, this is what passes as "k-state connections" at goEMAW, has a son who can ball



FYP
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chemhawk on April 07, 2012, 05:49:56 PM
Tyler Hughes.

I heard it from a parole officer.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2012, 05:51:38 PM
The real sugar dick never would have been this nice.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: JavaCat on April 07, 2012, 06:08:54 PM


Zeigler - some guy who coached at k-state for 1 season 13 years ago, this is what passes as "k-state connections" at goEMAW, has a son who can ball



FYP

Has been reported elsewhere on this site, but his son is going to Pittsburgh. Probably means we'll get him as an assistant.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 07, 2012, 09:22:13 PM


Zeigler - some guy who coached at k-state for 1 season 13 years ago, this is what passes as "k-state connections" at goEMAW, has a son who can ball



FYP

Has been reported elsewhere on this site, but his son is going to Pittsburgh. Probably means we'll get him as an assistant.

currie probably nixed it just like he did w/ leavitt. don't just go thinking you can hire any coach you want now kstate coaches.  :nono:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Rumblings oscar is test running potential assistant coaches at his house in the guest room to get a feel for them.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ELL3 on April 08, 2012, 12:39:21 PM
Marcus Ziegler backed up Jeff Wires (pretty good player) in 90-91 season
If his kid is a player hire him
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 08, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
Marcus Ziegler backed up Jeff Wires (pretty good player) in 90-91 season
If his kid is a player hire him

Yeah, I think that was the plan until the kid went to Pittsburgh.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on April 08, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
Tyler Hughes.

I heard it from a parole officer.

Can confirm that you are wrong  :eye:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ELL3 on April 08, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
so we are gonna have a collection of weberites that can't recruit, fantastic
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: davegladow on April 09, 2012, 05:02:56 PM
At the risk of being lukegladow, didn't see this posted yet...

http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-09/klee-illinis-jimmy-price-accepts-k-state-offer.html (http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-09/klee-illinis-jimmy-price-accepts-k-state-offer.html)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on April 09, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
At the risk of being lukegladow, didn't see this posted yet...

http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-09/klee-illinis-jimmy-price-accepts-k-state-offer.html (http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-09/klee-illinis-jimmy-price-accepts-k-state-offer.html)

Has Gottlieb worked out with him?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 09, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
Will he design his own death shirts?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: IlliniQuant on April 10, 2012, 11:38:37 AM
Oh, man...  Jimmy Price?

Get ready for routinely having the weakest and worst conditioned players in the conference.

Which is fine because Weber's offense moves at a glacial pace...

And yet not fine because oscar weber frequently refuses to use his bench.

If I had a dollar for every game in which we gave up the lead to a less talented team at the end of the game because our players were totally gassed...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 10, 2012, 11:40:53 AM
Oh, man...  Jimmy Price?

Get ready for routinely having the weakest and worst conditioned players in the conference.

Which is fine because Weber's offense moves at a glacial pace...

And yet not fine because oscar weber frequently refuses to use his bench.

If I had a dollar for every game in which we gave up the lead to a less talented team at the end of the game because our players were totally gassed...

good to hear.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 10, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
Oh, man...  Jimmy Price?

Get ready for routinely having the weakest and worst conditioned players in the conference.

Which is fine because Weber's offense moves at a glacial pace...

And yet not fine because oscar weber frequently refuses to use his bench.

If I had a dollar for every game in which we gave up the lead to a less talented team at the end of the game because our players were totally gassed...

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 10, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
Oh, man...  Jimmy Price?

Get ready for routinely having the weakest and worst conditioned players in the conference.

Which is fine because Weber's offense moves at a glacial pace...

And yet not fine because oscar weber frequently refuses to use his bench.

If I had a dollar for every game in which we gave up the lead to a less talented team at the end of the game because our players were totally gassed...

score another one for team #horns.  :party:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 10, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
Jerrance Howard will NOT be on the Illinois staff.   No word on where he's going though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2012, 11:47:30 AM
how many applicants were there?  how many others did he interview?  it sounds like weber abused the university's trust.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
would a guy like this be attainable for us if we threw a lot of money at them? Probably not now since we have Lowery, but if we didn't?

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/benford_tony00.html
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2012, 11:56:51 AM
would a guy like this be attainable for us if we threw a lot of money at them? Probably not now since we have Lowery, but if we didn't?

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/benford_tony00.html

Would take. texas ties, awesome recruiter.  No way we could get him though, right?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 12:07:47 PM
would a guy like this be attainable for us if we threw a lot of money at them? Probably not now since we have Lowery, but if we didn't?

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/benford_tony00.html

Would take. texas ties, awesome recruiter.  No way we could get him though, right?

Not now that we have Lowery. I don't know if we could get him even if we didn't have Lowery.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2012, 12:40:23 PM
A poorly conditioned team in this day and age is unacceptable and a fireable offense right there.

I remember watching Price on that show that was on ESPN when Knight was at TT and they had the walk-on tryouts.    Unimpressive to say the least.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 11, 2012, 01:24:49 PM
A poorly conditioned team in this day and age is unacceptable and a fireable offense right there.

I remember watching Price on that show that was on ESPN when Knight was at TT and they had the walk-on try :sdeek:outs.    Unimpressive to say the least.

On the court results would seem to indicate Jimmy Price is a terrible S&C coach.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2012, 03:23:03 PM
I am assuming, now that the tourny is played out(previous excuse), and we still don't have a staff, that we are hearing "no" a lot.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 11, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
I am assuming, now that the tourny is played out(previous excuse), and we still don't have a staff, that we are hearing "no" a lot.

Weird how "worst person in the world" Frank Martin had no problem luring his ENTIRE STAFF with him to SC and "best, most custardy puppy dog bubbles rainbow koala baby panda" oscar Weber can't get a flipping staff hired, outside of his failed former assistant and pansy "strength and conditioning" coach. Weird. Very, very weird.

If all these coaches think Weber is so great, why can't he get anyone to come coach with him?
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 11, 2012, 03:33:24 PM
I am assuming, now that the tourny is played out(previous excuse), and we still don't have a staff, that we are hearing "no" a lot.

There is also another dead/no contact recruiting period until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 11, 2012, 03:36:54 PM
Isn't next week when AAU circuit opens up to coaches so could be a while. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
I am assuming, now that the tourny is played out(previous excuse), and we still don't have a staff, that we are hearing "no" a lot.

There is also another dead/no contact recruiting period until tomorrow.

Man, I hope this is the case.  If so, we should see some announcements pretty much immediately I would think.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
I am assuming, now that the tourny is played out(previous excuse), and we still don't have a staff, that we are hearing "no" a lot.

Weird how "worst person in the world" Frank Martin had no problem luring his ENTIRE STAFF with him to SC and "best, most custardy puppy dog bubbles rainbow koala baby panda" oscar Weber can't get a flipping staff hired, outside of his failed former assistant and pansy "strength and conditioning" coach. Weird. Very, very weird.

If all these coaches think Weber is so great, why can't he get anyone to come coach with him?

Frank brainwashed them all.  They only went out of intimidation and fear of being beaten. 




Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 11, 2012, 05:02:12 PM
unless someone can show otherwise, i think it's pretty safe to assume that frank's assistants have no other options right now.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 11, 2012, 05:05:52 PM
It's a pretty well known fact that they were all suffering from Stockholm syndrome.  The only option was to follow their abuser to South Carolina.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 11, 2012, 05:13:18 PM
not that i think he's abusive toward them.  just that noting that the assistants followed him doesn't show that it's not the case that they wouldn't rather work for someone else.  that's an awful point.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2012, 05:20:49 PM
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett

Keep an eye on Shawn Forrest, of North Texas, as a possible K-State assistant. He was in Manhattan today. Would bring Texas recruiting ties.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SuperG on April 11, 2012, 05:28:51 PM
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett

Keep an eye on Shawn Forrest, of North Texas, as a possible K-State assistant. He was in Manhattan today. Would bring Texas recruiting ties.

Maybe he can get this guy to transfer. I hears he's got skills and family values.

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http://www.ntdaily.com/?p=63515
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett

Keep an eye on Shawn Forrest, of North Texas, as a possible K-State assistant. He was in Manhattan today. Would bring Texas recruiting ties.

Everybody knows about Mitchell, but UNT also had a couple solid FR this year from DFW area in Chris Jones and Jordan Williams, that is until they were declared academically ineligible halfway thru the season.

Anyway, would take.

http://www.meangreensports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&ATCLID=1505194
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 11, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
Forest as the third assistant would be great. Hopeful for Howard as the 2nd assistant.

@Cole_Manbeck: Weber On the possibility of Jerrance Howard joining the staff. "Jerrance has a contract and he’s got to resolve that with Illinois."
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 11, 2012, 05:53:05 PM
yes.  I actually really like this as a third guy.  Very well connected in Texas and very good at bringing in players at the levels he's coached.  Would be interesting to him operate at the high major level.

Sys put a bit of a bug in my head with his comment about Howard.  I'm not down on Howard, but I really like the idea of an equal canidate from a different region.  I think Weber and Lowery should be able to recruit Indiana, Illinois and St. Louis.  Forrest for Texas and JUCOs. Perhaps it's Ziegler for Michigan/California?  Sys makes a lot of sense sometimes (most times).   :bwpopcorn:   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 11, 2012, 05:56:27 PM
Forrest recruited 2 guys who were academically ineligible, and you guys think Currie will let him come to K-State?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 11, 2012, 05:57:04 PM
Forest as the third assistant would be great. Hopeful for Howard as the 2nd assistant.

@Cole_Manbeck: Weber On the possibility of Jerrance Howard joining the staff. "Jerrance has a contract and he’s got to resolve that with Illinois."


Appears there's a little game of chicken between Illinois and Snacks then.  Do they fire him or does he quit?  Groce hired his last assistant today, Isaac Chew from Methzou.  Illinois staff is full up.  Perhaps in the process of negotiating some sort of buyout with Snacks.  Hope so.  He deserves to be treated with the utmost respect by Illinois.     
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
Forrest recruited 2 guys who were academically ineligible, and you guys think Currie will let him come to K-State?

They were both fully qualified out of HS.

They were declared ineligible because they didn't do the work their 1st semester at UNT.

Make sure the players go to class, I'm sure Currie will be all over that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 07:34:03 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 11, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
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lols.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2012, 07:44:36 PM
guys shawn forrest is growing on me
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 11, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
KEEP YOUR FILTHY WHORE HANDS OFF OUR HEAD COACH-TO-BE.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2012, 08:00:32 PM
KEEP YOUR FILTHY WHORE HANDS OFF OUR HEAD COACH-TO-BE.

tastygreek, we love you here, can you tell us more about this guy?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 11, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
oh man
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 11, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
 :blah:
KEEP YOUR FILTHY WHORE HANDS OFF OUR HEAD COACH-TO-BE.

tastygreek, we love you here, can you tell us more about this guy?

Raging alcoholic. Suspected child molester. Ozzie Guillen's speechwriter. Former Bear Stearns executive. Witnessed fleeing the grassy knoll on assassination day.

Stay away. Stay far, far away.

Seriously: If Johnny Jones gets hired by LSU, he's my first choice to take over our program. Him interviewing with you guys makes me think he's been warned that he's not our AD's top choice. If we lose Jones and Forrest, we could very well tumble back into the dark ages...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SleepFighter on April 11, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
KEEP YOUR FILTHY WHORE HANDS OFF OUR HEAD COACH-TO-BE.

Oh man, I love the thought of a #burnitdown chain reaction.   :excited:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2012, 08:06:33 PM
Thanks TTG
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 11, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
Thanks TTG

He's a phenomenal recruiter. He was great at Arkansas State (landed Ryan Wedel there, Wedel bailed when Forrest left them for us) and he's been great for us. Tony Mitchell has repeatedly referred to him as "Dad", and he's our primary point of contact in Dallas AAU and high school scene. We did pretty well for ourselves recruiting before he came along (most everyone on the team that you saw in the tournament predated Forrest's arrival), but he's got us on the radar of guys like T-Mitch and Keith Frazier.

It looks more and more like JJ is on his way to LSU. If we lose him and then Forrest leaves, too... I may not make it up for Preseason NIT because I'll have hung myself from despair.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 11, 2012, 08:16:43 PM
My god if he can pull mid major guards from minneapolis kansas to arkansas state imagine what he can do for us!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2012, 08:20:07 PM
Thanks TTG

He's a phenomenal recruiter. He was great at Arkansas State (landed Ryan Wedel there, Wedel bailed when Forrest left them for us) and he's been great for us. Tony Mitchell has repeatedly referred to him as "Dad", and he's our primary point of contact in Dallas AAU and high school scene. We did pretty well for ourselves recruiting before he came along (most everyone on the team that you saw in the tournament predated Forrest's arrival), but he's got us on the radar of guys like T-Mitch and Keith Frazier.

It looks more and more like JJ is on his way to LSU. If we lose him and then Forrest leaves, too... I may not make it up for Preseason NIT because I'll have hung myself from despair.
TTG will you be coming to Manhattan for our football game? You can crash at my place.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 11, 2012, 08:24:55 PM
TTG will you be coming to Manhattan for our football game? You can crash at my place.

I've already been to Manhattan twice for football. I've run out of nuts for you fuckers to kick.

On the basketball front, though- We've been planning on making the NIT games for almost a month now. Until last week, I felt pretty good about our chances.

Now... If we lose Forrest to you guys? It might be too painful. Like traveling to the wedding between your soul mate and some lawn mowing simpleton who destroyed a once-proud Big 10 program.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
TTG will you be coming to Manhattan for our football game? You can crash at my place.

I've already been to Manhattan twice for football. I've run out of nuts for you fuckers to kick.

On the basketball front, though- We've been planning on making the NIT games for almost a month now. Until last week, I felt pretty good about our chances.

Now... If we lose Forrest to you guys? It might be too painful. Like traveling to the wedding between your soul mate and some lawn mowing simpleton who destroyed a once-proud Big 10 program.
You are the best.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
A guy that calls out the refs on a twitter tirade of the same magnitude of a drunk FakeDanBeebe, and who is also a guy with the sketchy enough morals, loose enough ethics, and ability to bagman to Tony Mitchell, is def a guy I want on staff.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
A guy that calls out the refs on a twitter tirade of the same magnitude of a drunk FakeDanBeebe, and who is also a guy with the sketchy enough morals, loose enough ethics, and ability to bagman to Tony Mitchell, is def a guy I want on staff.

Agreed. Would be a very nice catch.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 11, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
A guy that calls out the refs on a twitter tirade of the same magnitude of a drunk FakeDanBeebe, and who is also a guy with the sketchy enough morals, loose enough ethics, and ability to bagman to Tony Mitchell, is def a guy I want on staff.
hiring this guy would be the first smile I would have for cat hoops since March
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Katpappy on April 11, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
TTG will you be coming to Manhattan for our football game? You can crash at my place.

I've already been to Manhattan twice for football. I've run out of nuts for you fuckers to kick.

On the basketball front, though- We've been planning on making the NIT games for almost a month now. Until last week, I felt pretty good about our chances.

Now... If we lose Forrest to you guys? It might be too painful. Like traveling to the wedding between your soul mate and some lawn mowing simpleton who destroyed a once-proud Big 10 program.
:lol:  Stick around TTG, I like your slick ways.  Your a much more fun read than the crap from the buthurt Illinois fans.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 11, 2012, 10:46:53 PM
Forest as the third assistant would be great. Hopeful for Howard as the 2nd assistant.

@Cole_Manbeck: Weber On the possibility of Jerrance Howard joining the staff. "Jerrance has a contract and he’s got to resolve that with Illinois."

Honestly, if the staff was Lowery, Howard, and Forrest, it would be fantastic.

I'd be interested to see who DOBO would be.  Maybe that's where Jay Price fits in.  I guess, from my reading, he and Weber are pretty tight, and he's not much of a recruiter, so who knows; it may be his best option.

Also, he went to KU, and he's from Oklahoma, so maybe he would like to get back to the area anyway.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stobblebobby on April 11, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
TTG will you be coming to Manhattan for our football game? You can crash at my place.

I've already been to Manhattan twice for football. I've run out of nuts for you fuckers to kick.

On the basketball front, though- We've been planning on making the NIT games for almost a month now. Until last week, I felt pretty good about our chances.

Now... If we lose Forrest to you guys? It might be too painful. Like traveling to the wedding between your soul mate and some lawn mowing simpleton who destroyed a once-proud Big 10 program.

So great. Easily the best post since Black Saturday. TY TTG
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2012, 07:33:38 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

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The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 12, 2012, 07:36:06 AM
:EAGLESCREAM:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2012, 07:37:50 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

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The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 12, 2012, 07:39:47 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

Quote
The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.

would definitely help win me over.  if what comes w/ Forrest is half as good as that Twitter tirade ... omg   :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2012, 07:57:10 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 12, 2012, 08:03:20 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.

42!

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graduated from Southwest Texas State University in 1979
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2012, 08:05:04 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.

I saw Grensing in New Orleans hanging out with the Oregon staff sans Altman.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2012, 08:05:48 AM
ballplayers also rattled off a bunch of former ksu players that were great players who I love but need to stay the eff away from coaching my school that are begging for the job (beane, ro, etc.)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2012, 08:08:14 AM
also, gpc is trashing the potential forrest hire while campaigning for anthoney beane
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2012, 08:17:48 AM
also, gpc is trashing the potential forrest hire while campaigning for anthoney beane

lol's
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2012, 08:26:53 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.

coach grensing used to rock a hell of a moustache.  i  think he got in trouble with the NCAA back when he worked for altman and was doing JUCO recruiting at KSU.  phone calls or something, i can't remember but it's been like 20 years, i doubt that's what kept him from coaching at OU.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 12, 2012, 09:13:37 AM
also, gpc is trashing the potential forrest hire while campaigning for anthoney beane

 :facepalm:

I would have to imagine that these morons would recognize the importance of having a recruiter with ties in Texas due to the fact that, in football, THEY ALWAYS SCREAM ABOUT HAVING GUYS WITH TIES IN TEXAS.

I hate them so much.  So, so, so much.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 12, 2012, 09:18:51 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.

coach grensing used to rock a hell of a moustache.  i  think he got in trouble with the NCAA back when he worked for altman and was doing JUCO recruiting at KSU.  phone calls or something, i can't remember but it's been like 20 years, i doubt that's what kept him from coaching at OU.

ou is on probation, and couldn't hire anyone who had been named in NCAA violations. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
also, gpc is trashing the potential forrest hire while campaigning for anthoney beane

 :facepalm:

I would have to imagine that these morons would recognize the importance of having a recruiter with ties in Texas due to the fact that, in football, THEY ALWAYS SCREAM ABOUT HAVING GUYS WITH TIES IN TEXAS.

I hate them so much.  So, so, so much.

they are mainly mocking the hire because he's fron North Texas and that is apparently a bad school to get assistants from.  on the brightside, multiple posters then chimed in that LHC Bill Snyder worked at North Texas and look where that got us.  so, the tide may yet turn. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
also, gpc is trashing the potential forrest hire while campaigning for anthoney beane

 :facepalm:

I would have to imagine that these morons would recognize the importance of having a recruiter with ties in Texas due to the fact that, in football, THEY ALWAYS SCREAM ABOUT HAVING GUYS WITH TIES IN TEXAS.

I hate them so much.  So, so, so much.

they are mainly mocking the hire because he's fron North Texas and that is apparently a bad school to get assistants from.  on the brightside, multiple posters then chimed in that LHC Bill Snyder worked at North Texas and look where that got us.  so, the tide may yet turn. 

:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2012, 09:39:52 AM
ballplayers says that Greg Grensing is campaigning for a ksu job.  said that he couldn't follow Lon to OU because of some violation from way back or some crap.

coach grensing used to rock a hell of a moustache.  i  think he got in trouble with the NCAA back when he worked for altman and was doing JUCO recruiting at KSU.  phone calls or something, i can't remember but it's been like 20 years, i doubt that's what kept him from coaching at OU.

ou is on probation, and couldn't hire anyone who had been named in NCAA violations. 



ah...well, he was a nice guy back when he worked for altman at ksu cats.  seemed to really like rock-a-belly.

also, his nickname was reg rensing
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

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The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.


Would make this hire almost tolerable.  I'm getting my hopes up, but I don't know why I'm doing this to myself.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 12, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

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The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.


Would make this hire almost tolerable.  I'm getting my hopes up, but I don't know why I'm doing this to myself.

I'm going with an evolutionary neurological defense mechanism, personally.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 12, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
I want to believe something good will happen, but I'm conditioned not to.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: davegladow on April 12, 2012, 10:40:56 AM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

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The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.


Would make this hire almost tolerable.  I'm getting my hopes up, but I don't know why I'm doing this to myself.

I'm going with an evolutionary neurological defense mechanism, personally.

Congratulations, you're not alone!

http://grist.org/list/80-percent-of-humans-are-delusionally-optimistic-says-science/ (http://grist.org/list/80-percent-of-humans-are-delusionally-optimistic-says-science/)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 12, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
This was in Meek's article from yesterday.

Quote
The biggest thing for me is recruiting. There are some guys in the business that have Kansas State ties, but their recruiting backgrounds are so similar to us, I’m not sure that’s the best thing in the long run.

I'm assuming this may be why Beane hasn't been hired. BP last night said Beane is interested, so its possible that Beane reached out to Weber to gain interest, but Weber turned it down. I agree with the approach, the only Illinois based recruiter he should hire is Howard IMO.

yep.  agree with panja that a lowery, howard, forrest staff would be pretty great.

This feels freaking good - I just can't get over the oscar. All the butthurt illini and all the crap they said!!! DAMNIT, this is what being a KSU fan is all about.  :angry:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 14, 2012, 10:16:14 AM
http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/north-texas-headlines/20120413-notebook-unts-forrest-interviews-for-k-state-assistant-job.ece (http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/north-texas-headlines/20120413-notebook-unts-forrest-interviews-for-k-state-assistant-job.ece)

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 14, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/north-texas-headlines/20120413-notebook-unts-forrest-interviews-for-k-state-assistant-job.ece (http://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/north-texas-headlines/20120413-notebook-unts-forrest-interviews-for-k-state-assistant-job.ece)

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North Texas assistant basketball coach Shawn Forrest has interviewed for a similar position at Kansas State, a source close to the situation said Thursday afternoon.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 14, 2012, 03:10:44 PM
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oscar Webber just confirmed he should have two more coaches added to the staff by tuesday "its just a matter of paperwork"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2012, 03:12:18 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 14, 2012, 03:12:59 PM
Besides ex-K-State players, Howard and Forrest are the only names that have leaked, right? That makes me pretty excited.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 14, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
Besides ex-K-State players, Howard and Forrest are the only names that have leaked, right? That makes me pretty excited.
Yes. We've got our #DelonteHill2.0 now. What a great day.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
Besides ex-K-State players, Howard and Forrest are the only names that have leaked, right? That makes me pretty excited.

zeigler
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: scottwildcat on April 14, 2012, 04:35:39 PM
Besides ex-K-State players, Howard and Forrest are the only names that have leaked, right? That makes me pretty excited.

zeigler

tell me what i should want. what combo of these three should i choose for?

I think Howard and Zeigler but i trust in steve dave to tell me what to want
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 14, 2012, 04:40:43 PM
Forrest and Howard.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
Forrest and Howard.

second best combo of the three is Zeigler and Forrest.  Howard and Zeigler would be pretty redundant.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 14, 2012, 04:47:41 PM
Forrest and Howard.

second best combo of the three is Zeigler and Forrest.  Howard and Zeigler would be pretty redundant.   

Really?  My first two choices would be Howard + whoever else
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
Forrest and Howard.

second best combo of the three is Zeigler and Forrest.  Howard and Zeigler would be pretty redundant.   

Really?  My first two choices would be Howard + whoever else

Forrest is the most important assistant addition now that we've already gotten Lowery.  The last thing we need is our upper midwest HC hiring 3 upper midwest assistants.   If it was up to me I'd fire Lowery, hire Howard/Forrest/Cali or East Coast Mys Assistant
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 14, 2012, 04:51:14 PM
Forrest opens up Texas recruiting. Pretty big deal, especially considering that 5 of the 5* recruits in the 2013 class are from Texas.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 16, 2012, 12:16:15 PM
UNT poster on TOS saying Forrest has gone to LSU.      :chainsaw:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
UNT poster on TOS saying Forrest has gone to LSU.      :chainsaw:

that wouldn't be very good news.  link to the thread mikey?  you can post them here, we don't give a crap. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 16, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
UNT poster on TOS saying Forrest has gone to LSU.      :chainsaw:

that wouldn't be very good news.  link to the thread mikey?  you can post them here, we don't give a crap.

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2671&t=8903008
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2012, 01:51:58 PM
THE PRICE IS RIGHT

Jay Price fills spot on Webers bench for pennies on the dollar
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 16, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
UNT poster on TOS saying Forrest has gone to LSU.      :chainsaw:

that wouldn't be very good news.  link to the thread mikey?  you can post them here, we don't give a crap.

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2671&t=8903008

This isn't true at this point.  He's still in the running for the UNT job.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 16, 2012, 03:07:53 PM
UNT poster on TOS saying Forrest has gone to LSU.      :chainsaw:

that wouldn't be very good news.  link to the thread mikey?  you can post them here, we don't give a crap.

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2671&t=8903008

This isn't true at this point.  He's still in the running for the UNT job.

ha, I was gonna say that I read that Wake Forest's coach was hired, but I guess that's for the UNT estroball.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2012, 04:12:18 PM
If we don't get Forrest or Howard....
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 16, 2012, 05:09:14 PM
If we don't get Forrest or Howard....

It feels like odds are pretty high that we'll get at least one of the two.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: treysolid on April 17, 2012, 09:02:06 AM
well...it's tuesday...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 09:31:02 AM
Welp, it appears that the infamous K-State sports coverage "cone of silence" has solidly been implemented, preventing any and all basketball related news from being reported with the exception of the Manhattan Mercury.

I realize FITZ and staff are sitting on this info, but it's perplexing that there isn't anything credible whatsoever pertaining to the final two staff members and the timeline?

In other news, D_Scott broke the story that Sean Lowe is a contestant on The Bachelorette.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2012, 09:47:38 AM
In other news, D_Scott broke the story that Sean Lowe is a contestant on The Bachelorette.

No, bringonthecats (the goEMAW poster, not the website) did.  D.Scott ran with it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 09:54:58 AM
In other news, D_Scott broke the story that Sean Lowe is a contestant on The Bachelorette.

No, bringonthecats (the goEMAW poster, not the website) did.  D.Scott ran with it.

Not surprising. D_Scott is really good at retweeting things.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
In other news, D_Scott broke the story that Sean Lowe is a contestant on The Bachelorette.

No, bringonthecats (the goEMAW poster, not the website) did.  D.Scott ran with it.

Hence, proving that we (guys with limited connections) know more than D. Scott.

Except about sandwiches.  He knows a good sandwich when he sees it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 17, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 09:59:10 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.
I would say from my experience in Pitt that it's both of these and the fact that nobody ITK wants to tell them anything. I mean when a super pak'd fanning can walk up to a suit and get the story in 2 minutes, that tells you something.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.
I would say from my experience in Pitt that it's both of these and the fact that nobody ITK wants to tell them anything. I mean when a super pak'd fanning can walk up to a suit and get the story in 2 minutes, that tells you something.

If D. Scott or Wallace walked up to you and asked for sensitive information, would you do it?

I'm leaning towards, uh, no.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 10:02:18 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.
I would say from my experience in Pitt that it's both of these and the fact that nobody ITK wants to tell them anything. I mean when a super pak'd fanning can walk up to a suit and get the story in 2 minutes, that tells you something.

If D. Scott or Wallace walked up to you and asked for sensitive information, would you do it?

I'm leaning towards, uh, no.
  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 10:22:02 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.

Both.  Twitter also appears to be one of their best sources.  DJamer Ryan Wallace is very good at using twitter for his investigative reporting, for instance, because of his lack credibility and he's not very good with interacting socially with people.  D_Scott appears to be mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  FITZ simply doesn't seem to care.  And Rob Cassidy appears to be the one that actually does any sort of substantive journalistic work.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 17, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
do they just not know how to go about getting this kind of information or are they just too lazy to try. i'm leaning towards both.
crap hit the fan with "It's Patterson!"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 10:25:41 AM
And that leads us to Cole Manbeck.  Thank God for Cole Manbeck.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2012, 10:26:23 AM
Cole Manbeck has been getting all the KState scoops lately
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Both.  Twitter also appears to be one of their best sources.  DJamer Ryan Wallace is very good at using twitter for his investigative reporting, for instance, because of his lack credibility and he's not very good with interacting socially with people.  D_Scott appears to be mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  FITZ simply doesn't seem to care.  And Rob Cassidy appears to be the one that actually does any sort of substantive journalistic work.

The guy needs to go to Toastmasters.  For God's sake, his presentation skills are atrocious AND HE HAS RECORDED SEGMENTS THAT HE CAN EDIT OUT ALL OF HIS MISTAKES AND CHOOSES NOT TO.

He can't write, he can't broadcast, and he's not funny.  In my opinion, of all of the things that ever went wrong with that site, the final straw was Ryan Wallace.  He was one of the biggest tipping points for me.  I wasn't going to pay for a service that shoved that clown down my throat.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Both.  Twitter also appears to be one of their best sources.  DJamer Ryan Wallace is very good at using twitter for his investigative reporting, for instance, because of his lack credibility and he's not very good with interacting socially with people.  D_Scott appears to be mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  FITZ simply doesn't seem to care.  And Rob Cassidy appears to be the one that actually does any sort of substantive journalistic work.

The guy needs to go to Toastmasters.  For God's sake, his presentation skills are atrocious AND HE HAS RECORDED SEGMENTS THAT HE CAN EDIT OUT ALL OF HIS MISTAKES AND CHOOSES NOT TO.

He can't write, he can't broadcast, and he's not funny.  In my opinion, of all of the things that ever went wrong with that site, the final straw was Ryan Wallace.  He was one of the biggest tipping points for me.  I wasn't going to pay for a service that shoved that clown down my throat.

Don't forget the fact that on top of it all he's an arrogant prick. Don't get me wrong - I love it when talented people are arrogant pricks, but not terrible people who are terrible at everything in life like Ryan Wallace.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2012, 10:40:30 AM
He's also very lazy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 10:46:55 AM
Both.  Twitter also appears to be one of their best sources.  DJamer Ryan Wallace is very good at using twitter for his investigative reporting, for instance, because of his lack credibility and he's not very good with interacting socially with people.  D_Scott appears to be mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  FITZ simply doesn't seem to care.  And Rob Cassidy appears to be the one that actually does any sort of substantive journalistic work.

The guy needs to go to Toastmasters.  For God's sake, his presentation skills are atrocious AND HE HAS RECORDED SEGMENTS THAT HE CAN EDIT OUT ALL OF HIS MISTAKES AND CHOOSES NOT TO.

He can't write, he can't broadcast, and he's not funny.  In my opinion, of all of the things that ever went wrong with that site, the final straw was Ryan Wallace.  He was one of the biggest tipping points for me.  I wasn't going to pay for a service that shoved that clown down my throat.

Don't forget the fact that on top of it all he's an arrogant prick. Don't get me wrong - I love it when talented people are arrogant pricks, but not terrible people who are terrible at everything in life like Ryan Wallace.

The condescension is so laughable from him.  Just such a complete dumbass punk on so many levels. 

He's like the polar opposite of Cassidy, who I really have grown to like.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
He's like the polar opposite of Cassidy, who I really have grown to like.

well, don't get too attached...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
He's like the polar opposite of Cassidy, who I really have grown to like.

well, don't get too attached...

NNNNNNOOO!!!!!!!  :bawl:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 17, 2012, 10:51:02 AM
There was a time when Fitz and gopowercat were both really good; the best K-State sports news out there. Fitz did a ton of work and really is very knowledgable about football and basketball. His site was unique in a time whem most people still got their sports info with the morning paper. In the last several years the analysis part of the site and recruiting has definitely dropped off while K-State beat writers, etc have gotten much more involved with blogs and twitter (starting with J-Mart really) Things that used to be unique to gopowercat as far as immediate K-State info are now pretty common. I think part of that is also due to burning bridges with the Patterson deal and others, but alot is just not adjusting. Fitz leaves most of the work to his employees and a lot of that is not analysis or breaking news.

But it really doesn't have to change, most of the subscibers seem fine with how things are, many still get the print magazine. When you have several thousand (at least, nearly 2900 on line last month for their message board record) subscibers paying $100 a year or $10 a month I'm sure its easy to keep things as they are. Plus I'm sure new subscibers even out the people that stop subscribing, gopowercat is pretty set to be what it is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 17, 2012, 10:57:02 AM
There was a time when Fitz and gopowercat were both really good; the best K-State sports news out there. Fitz did a ton of work and really is very knowledgable about football and basketball. His site was unique in a time whem most people still got their sports info with the morning paper. In the last several years the analysis part of the site and recruiting has definitely dropped off while K-State beat writers, etc have gotten much more involved with blogs and twitter (starting with J-Mart really) Things that used to be unique to gopowercat as far as immediate K-State info are now pretty common. I think part of that is also due to burning bridges with the Patterson deal and others, but alot is just not adjusting. Fitz leaves most of the work to his employees and a lot of that is not analysis or breaking news.

But it really doesn't have to change, most of the subscibers seem fine with how things are, many still get the print magazine. When you have several thousand (at least, nearly 2900 on line last month for their message board record) subscibers paying $100 a year or $10 a month I'm sure its easy to keep things as they are. Plus I'm sure new subscibers even out the people that stop subscribing, gopowercat is pretty set to be what it is.

it's frustrating though. i mean, i'd even be willing to pay the money if there was absolutely anything over there to pay for. there just isn't. hell, i have a log in that i can use to get on, but have not felt the need to go over there for anything in at least six months, probably closer to a year.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 17, 2012, 11:04:36 AM
Fitz and Kietz are fairly similar.  Aggressive, hard working and eager in their professional infancy.  Then, they both "made it." 

Where do they go from here?  Nowhere.  They're both at the top.  And they have no competition eating into their market.  He has a respectably modest income flowing in ever month and this won't change anytime soon.   

Fitz has no incentive to work harder.  Why would he?  Would any of us?  If you got paid to produce a crap product and the consumer never asked questions, why would you work harder?  Pretty simple economics.     


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 11:08:44 AM
Fitz and Kietz are fairly similar.  Aggressive, hard working and eager in their professional infancy.  Then, they both "made it." 

Where do they go from here?  Nowhere.  They're both at the top.  And they have no competition eating into their market.  He has a respectably modest income flowing in ever month and this won't change anytime soon.   

Fitz has no incentive to work harder.  Why would he?  Would any of us?  If you got paid to produce a crap product and the consumer never asked questions, why would you work harder?  Pretty simple economics.     
You sound like a lazy, uninspired, bad person.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 11:21:23 AM
Fitz and Kietz are fairly similar.  Aggressive, hard working and eager in their professional infancy.  Then, they both "made it." 

Where do they go from here?  Nowhere.  They're both at the top.  And they have no competition eating into their market.  He has a respectably modest income flowing in ever month and this won't change anytime soon.   

Fitz has no incentive to work harder.  Why would he?  Would any of us?  If you got paid to produce a crap product and the consumer never asked questions, why would you work harder?  Pretty simple economics.     
You sound like a lazy, uninspired, bad person.

All things considered, Belvis is right.  Fitz has no incentive to improve his product because GPC has the market cornered, and the fact that he's affiliated with Rivals (which is the strongest of the recruiting services from a football standpoint) makes it unlikely GPC is going to lose any market share any time in the near future.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Catchup on April 17, 2012, 11:24:53 AM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
Kietz is still interesting from time to time. Fitz seems is intersting, but only to point and laugh at.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 17, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
If bp posted more He's worth probably 3 dollars a month.  but not 10.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 11:30:23 AM
Fitz and Kietz are fairly similar.  Aggressive, hard working and eager in their professional infancy.  Then, they both "made it." 

Where do they go from here?  Nowhere.  They're both at the top.  And they have no competition eating into their market.  He has a respectably modest income flowing in ever month and this won't change anytime soon.   

Fitz has no incentive to work harder.  Why would he?  Would any of us?  If you got paid to produce a crap product and the consumer never asked questions, why would you work harder?  Pretty simple economics.     
You sound like a lazy, uninspired, bad person.

All things considered, Belvis is right.  Fitz has no incentive to improve his product because GPC has the market cornered, and the fact that he's affiliated with Rivals (which is the strongest of the recruiting services from a football standpoint) makes it unlikely GPC is going to lose any market share any time in the near future.
Ya, it's funny. Back in 04' when I was a day dreaming young pup "sports journalist" in Mass Comm 100, Fitz spoke to our class about his concerns. His biggest concern he told the class: "What will happen to my magazine sells the day Snyder retires? What will happen to GPC once the football team has a down year? ect.". To me, it sounded like a different Fitz back then. I respected him, did several interviews with him for radio/ch.8. Just never saw the day where I'd read fart/vodka/creepy jokes from him on twitter.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 17, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.

This.  Nothing ever gets broke over.  goEMAW is more ITK than all his posters combined.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
I honestly feel that Fitz thinks he is simply selling a portal to the rivals info and that anything else is cream. 

Also, as far as bb goes, as soon as the first idiot starts talking about Spring Game, it gets enough other idiots interested in nothing but Spring Game and all of a sudden no one could give a crap about finding anything out about basketball.  So the work that is done is to satisfy idiots with regard to football and basketball is forgotten.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 17, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
So... there's nothing new on the coaches.   :blank:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2012, 12:19:24 PM
IceCreamMan on 810 now. Says wants to finalize staff by end of next wk. "Looking for right fit"

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 17, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.

This.  Nothing ever gets broke over.  goEMAW is more ITK than all his posters combined.

Well if you're going to pay $10 a month you want to feel like there are ITK posters.

In fact there are ITK posters on GPC, they know about plumbers, mechanics, etc etc, but they don't know crap about basketball
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 17, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
IceCreamMan on 810 now. Says wants to finalize staff by end of next wk. "Looking for right fit"

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Could anyone come up with a little chart showing all the different deadlines Bubbles McCustard has set and blown by regarding assembling a coaching staff by now? Seems like we're up to 4 or 5?

Maybe we could just do a consolidated Currie/McCustard lies thread?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
maybe john currie isn't done playing pirates of the carribean on his carnival cruise so b-dub can't get anyone hired :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: fr@ck me on April 17, 2012, 01:37:17 PM
Fitz and Kietz are fairly similar.  Aggressive, hard working and eager in their professional infancy.  Then, they both "made it." 

Where do they go from here?  Nowhere.  They're both at the top.  And they have no competition eating into their market.  He has a respectably modest income flowing in ever month and this won't change anytime soon.   

Fitz has no incentive to work harder.  Why would he?  Would any of us?  If you got paid to produce a crap product and the consumer never asked questions, why would you work harder?  Pretty simple economics.     
You sound like a lazy, uninspired, bad person.

All things considered, Belvis is right.  Fitz has no incentive to improve his product because GPC has the market cornered, and the fact that he's affiliated with Rivals (which is the strongest of the recruiting services from a football standpoint) makes it unlikely GPC is going to lose any market share any time in the near future.
Ya, it's funny. Back in 04' when I was a day dreaming young pup "sports journalist" in Mass Comm 100, Fitz spoke to our class about his concerns. His biggest concern he told the class: "What will happen to my magazine sells the day Snyder retires? What will happen to GPC once the football team has a down year? ect.". To me, it sounded like a different Fitz back then. I respected him, did several interviews with him for radio/ch.8. Just never saw the day where I'd read fart/vodka/creepy jokes from him on twitter.

I use to pay for that site, then realized that he didn't know crap anymore and I was paying for hoping one of the other posters would break something.  I follow fitz on twitter and would say that his creepy jokes make it easy to not pay him for his site.  I feel bad for Rob, maybe he will get one of those jobs he interviewed for and get away from the fat man.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stobblebobby on April 17, 2012, 01:50:46 PM
maybe john currie isn't done playing pirates of the carribean on his carnival cruise so b-dub can't get anyone hired :dunno:

ADJC: "oscar my man, welcome aboard!"
BW: "Hi John. Umm.. John, I'm a little bit concerned about that whole Frank Martin thing? I mean, I don't mean to be rufflin' any feathers here, but, well... how much authority will I have over the Basketball program."

"Oh you'll be just fine here buddy, don't you worry about it. I'm glad you brought it up though - here's a pen. I want you to take that and write down the names of a few guys you think might be good assistant coaches. When you're done with the list, go ahead and leave it on my desk. I'm going to go on a cruise now, so don't you go talking to any of the coaches or anything. In fact, when you're done with that list how about you go pick out a few options for your sideline dry-erase board for next season and... well hell, grab yourself some Freddy's, on the house!" says Currie as he pats BW on the shoulder and turns to walk away.

BW stares at his shoes a little, takes his hands out of his pockets them puts them back in a few times and says "Umm.. but John!?" with his voice cracking a little as he tries to raise it.

At first pretending not to hear, JC keeps walking, but when oscar awkwardly jogs to catch up with him JC does an exasperated sigh and turns around. "WHAT IS IT oscar?"

"Well, I'd really like to call a few guys, you know, just to see what they think, maybe do a little recruiting you know?"

"oscar, do you like chicken nuggets?"

"Yes John"

"Then don't call any coaches"

"But I..."

"DONT DO IT oscar"

"OH.. ok..  Hey John?"

"WHAT IS IT oscar???"

"Can I get a large chicken nuggets?"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 17, 2012, 02:27:45 PM

I use to pay for that site, then realized that he didn't know crap anymore and I was paying for hoping one of the other posters would break something. 


And if there were more GPC subscribers like you, the GPC indifference would cease.  But, there aren't more like you.  You're in the minority.  Every once in a long while you'll have a rebel question the quality of the "news" for which they pay.  These minor insurrections are quickly snuffed out by the GPC loyalists who drink the swill.  Too many of the subscribers suffer from the same laziness as their tireless leader.   

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Catchup on April 17, 2012, 02:34:58 PM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.

This.  Nothing ever gets broke over.  goEMAW is more ITK than all his posters combined.

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Quote
"oscar, do you like chicken nuggets?"

"Yes John"

"Then don't call any coaches"

"But I..."

"DONT DO IT oscar"

"OH.. ok..  Hey John?"

"WHAT IS IT oscar???"

"Can I get a large chicken nuggets?"

 :lol:



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract. 

Any chance fanning posted a pretty funny joke running back the DJDT food truck "relax, it's sunday" incident?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.

This.  Nothing ever gets broke over.  goEMAW is more ITK than all his posters combined.

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.

Catchup, I'm the V.P. of Member Relations.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 17, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract. 

Any chance fanning posted a pretty funny joke running back the DJDT food truck "relax, it's only sunday" incident?
  :peek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 17, 2012, 03:04:27 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract. 

Any chance fanning posted a pretty funny joke running back the DJDT food truck "relax, it's sunday" incident?
  :peek:

I mean, I doubt it.  I think you were still as 'tarded as it gets back then.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 17, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
I pay for it. You get alot from guys on the board who are plugged in. Sometimes Rob and Gates have stuff.

I don't pay for it, but I have a login. As far as I can tell, the people who are "plugged in" usually just get their info off of this board and repost it over there.

This.  Nothing ever gets broke over.  goEMAW is more ITK than all his posters combined.

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dive-bahamas.com%2Fstuartcovebookingengine%2Fuploads%2FPackage%2Fsharks-circling%255B0%255D.jpg&hash=d8a5e188dcdd0818b23fb9e90d5a81ff0a722355)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Catchup on April 17, 2012, 03:29:22 PM

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the respect jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.

Catchup, I'm the V.P. of Member Relations.
[/quote]

Do I get a handjob or something?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 17, 2012, 03:34:01 PM

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the respect jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.

Catchup, I'm the V.P. of Member Relations.

Do I get a handjob or something?
[/quote]

and you wonder why your kid is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2012, 03:34:23 PM
what on earth
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 03:36:47 PM
and you wonder why your kid is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

Dude...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on April 17, 2012, 03:41:14 PM

You may well be right. I used to follow you guys a little at the old site. It was a bit too rough for me at the time. I though most of the edgy humor was funny but I struggled with all the respect jokes (I have a daughter with special needs). Those a much less plentiful now, and I have thicker skin, but that was the main reason I could handle GPC and not come over here. I will freely admit that lots more bball info comes through goEMAW. I will let you know after a football season on goEMAW if I feel the same. If it turns out to be the case, I will certainly be full time switching. My wife will be happy to have the $9.95 a month.

Catchup, I'm the V.P. of Member Relations.

Do I get a handjob or something?

and you wonder why your kid is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
[/quote] Not so OK Cat post
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Catchup on April 17, 2012, 03:48:15 PM
OK Cat I'm not sure your good at science.

 :jerk: does not cause disabilities. BTW its autism not retardation so that you can be more specificin condescending. Eventually I will lose it and hope you get kidnapped and sodomized, but I'm not there yet.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 04:48:24 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract.

Well, if Howard is going to SMU, and Forrest is really up for the UNT gig, that explains why we haven't heard anything.

I assume we're waiting on Forrest's status and what Howard plans on doing.  If Howard goes to SMU, and Forrest gets the UNT job, we may end up moving down the totem pole a bit.

Which would obviously be a bad, bad thing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 17, 2012, 04:51:17 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract.

Well, if Howard is going to SMU, and Forrest is really up for the UNT gig, that explains why we haven't heard anything.

I assume we're waiting on Forrest's status and what Howard plans on doing.  If Howard goes to SMU, and Forrest gets the UNT job, we may end up moving down the totem pole a bit.

Which would obviously be a bad, bad thing.

Looking like it.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Relax, it's only Tuesday.

The problem is last Friday, he said he anticipated the coaching staff would be in place by this Monday or Tuesday.

So, the longer this protracts, it leads me to believe that his top targets are not committing and he's moving on to back up plans.

In the case of Jerrance Howard, it only takes so much time to resolve a contract.

Well, if Howard is going to SMU, and Forrest is really up for the UNT gig, that explains why we haven't heard anything.

I assume we're waiting on Forrest's status and what Howard plans on doing.  If Howard goes to SMU, and Forrest gets the UNT job, we may end up moving down the totem pole a bit.

Which would obviously be a bad, bad thing.

Looking like it.

Would take Zeigler and Forrest, though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Catchup on April 17, 2012, 04:58:58 PM
I don't see why we would not have already named Zeigler if that was going to happen.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2012, 05:00:44 PM
I don't see why we would not have already named Zeigler if that was going to happen.

 :dunno:

Maybe it was an either/or between Howard and Ziegler?  Forrest and his Texas ties may be independent of that decision.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on April 17, 2012, 10:05:26 PM
I would be really disappointed if we didn't end up with Forrest, now that Howard is off the table.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
I can't wait for all the Weber supporters to start up the "he kept the whole team here. isn't that enough for you?" talking points after we miss out on Howard and Forrest.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 17, 2012, 10:19:48 PM
i guess weber wasn't lying when he said that he really had no idea who his staff would be during the presser. the best part was when people were all "guys, he's just waiting to offically hire them so they can go dirty recruit for a while". i mean yeah, oscar weber was doing that. :lol: :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 17, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
OK Cat I'm not sure your good at science.

 :jerk: does not cause disabilities. BTW its autism not retardation so that you can be more specificin condescending. Eventually I will lose it and hope you get kidnapped and sodomized, but I'm not there yet.

i'm not sure why you'd be offended by the word "Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)" (it's a term, btw, not a joke).  Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) refers to stupid people, like john currie or oscar weber, not to smart people that prefer not to interact with the retards of the world, like your daughter.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
Man, our BB prog is old yeller and we got rabies like a mother.  These last two hires are going to be a wonderfully bullet-like release.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 18, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
We'll end up with Wooly type AC's, who would want to work for the squeeky little bastard anyhow
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
I can't wait for all the Weber supporters to start up the "he kept the whole team here. isn't that enough for you?" talking points after we miss out on Howard and Forrest.

Forrest is going to be a candidate for the UNT HC job, so I feel pretty good about the thought that we're probably holding a spot for him (if he doesn't follow Jones to LSU).

The Howard thing was probably a surprise.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2012, 01:11:26 PM
I can't wait for all the Weber supporters to start up the "he kept the whole team here. isn't that enough for you?" talking points after we miss out on Howard and Forrest.

Forrest is going to be a candidate for the UNT HC job, so I feel pretty good about the thought that we're probably holding a spot for him (if he doesn't follow Jones to LSU).

The Howard thing was probably a surprise.

So at best, we are Forrest's 3rd option. Howard chose not to work with him. Has he called Dougie yet?
This is pathetic that he can't get a staff hired.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 18, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2012, 01:23:59 PM
I can't wait for all the Weber supporters to start up the "he kept the whole team here. isn't that enough for you?" talking points after we miss out on Howard and Forrest.

Forrest is going to be a candidate for the UNT HC job, so I feel pretty good about the thought that we're probably holding a spot for him (if he doesn't follow Jones to LSU).

The Howard thing was probably a surprise.

So at best, we are Forrest's 3rd option. Howard chose not to work with him. Has he called Dougie yet?
This is pathetic that he can't get a staff hired.

No one knows that for sure.  I would say we are at worst his second option because becoming a D1 head coach is on a different level of decision making than deciding what program you'd like to be an assistant for.

He came and interviewed after Jones interviewed for LSU.  So, if he was sure Johnny was going to get the LSU job and follow him, why would he have wasted his time coming here unless there was serious interest?

If I'm Forrest, and my bread and butter is Texas recruiting, maybe I'm wanting to stick in a conference where we play in Texas four times a year to keep my exposure in that area as opposed to LSU, who will play there one time (unless we're talking non-con).

The Big 12 is the conference of Texas, after all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Equate "butthurt" to being angry and equate "not butthurt" to being happy. Now, tell me this, using happy or angry, how do you feel about the amount of time it is taking Webster to hire his staff? Agnostic is not a choice.

.....welcome to the butthurt!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 18, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Equate "butthurt" to being angry and equate "not butthurt" to being happy. Now, tell me this, using happy or angry, how do you feel about the amount of time it is taking Webster to hire his staff? Agnostic is not a choice.

.....welcome to the butthurt!

welcome to butthurt gibberish.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 18, 2012, 03:53:55 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Equate "butthurt" to being angry and equate "not butthurt" to being happy. Now, tell me this, using happy or angry, how do you feel about the amount of time it is taking Webster to hire his staff? Agnostic is not a choice.

.....welcome to the butthurt!

Without knowing who is ultimately on staff, why would anyone possibly be upset about this?  Let's say Weber steals the top assistant from Duke and Butler's current head coach to be our last two bench assistants -- three months from now.  You'll be upset over the timing?  I don't give a rat's ass about the timing.  I'll wait and judge the process from the end results.

People are simply choosing to be upset about this as a spillover from other things they're upset about.  I don't see the point in that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2012, 03:57:12 PM
Yep, we all just need to wait and see.

I mean, what if oscar wins like 25 games 5 yrs from now.  I am going to just wait and give him time.  I mean, you don't know what will happen...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Yep, we all just need to wait and see.

I mean, what if oscar wins like 25 games 5 yrs from now.  I am going to just wait and give him time.  I mean, you don't know what will happen...

who knows? Heck, he's been to the national title game. Give me one good reason it won't happen again in two years. YOU CAN'T DO IT SO I GUESS YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 18, 2012, 04:08:39 PM
people are butthurt over the lack of hiring of assistants because they are being deprived of the opportunity to be butthurt over the hiring of assistants.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on April 18, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
Yep, we all just need to wait and see.

I mean, what if oscar wins like 25 games 5 yrs from now.  I am going to just wait and give him time.  I mean, you don't know what will happen...

who knows? Heck, he's been to the national title game. Give me one good reason it won't happen again in two years. YOU CAN'T DO IT SO I GUESS YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!

WAIT AND SEE
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2012, 04:13:44 PM
people are butthurt over the lack of hiring of assistants because they are being deprived of the opportunity to be butthurt over the hiring of assistants.

maybe not. GIVE US A CHANCE.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 18, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Equate "butthurt" to being angry and equate "not butthurt" to being happy. Now, tell me this, using happy or angry, how do you feel about the amount of time it is taking Webster to hire his staff? Agnostic is not a choice.

.....welcome to the butthurt!

Without knowing who is ultimately on staff, why would anyone possibly be upset about this?  Let's say Weber steals the top assistant from Duke and Butler's current head coach to be our last two bench assistants -- three months from now.  You'll be upset over the timing?  I don't give a rat's ass about the timing.  I'll wait and judge the process from the end results.

People are simply choosing to be upset about this as a spillover from other things they're upset about.  I don't see the point in that.

Disagree.  Not saying that there isn't some residual team burn it down butt hurt coming through, but the timing is a big deal.  The open recruiting period is upon us, and we are at half staff with the distraction of needing to hire 2 assistants still looming.  This is a significant failure.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
Whelp, here we go.

So much for a proven recruiter on the staff.  eff me.


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As we reported, former North Texas assistant Shawn Forrest interviewed at Kansas State.

He will not be an assistant on oscar Weber's staff, though. Forrest interviewed for the head coaching job at North Texas early this week. If he does not get that gig, he is expected to follow Johnny Jones to LSU and serve as an assistant.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2012, 04:22:56 PM
Whelp, here we go.

So much for a proven recruiter on the staff.  eff me.


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who knows, oscar may have someone better ready to sign when Currie gets back from the Bahamas and can approve it.  WHO KNOWS?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2012, 04:23:58 PM
 :bawl:
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 04:28:08 PM
people are butthurt over the lack of hiring of assistants because they are being deprived of the opportunity to be butthurt over the hiring of assistants.

Great post
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Whelp, here we go.

So much for a proven recruiter on the staff.  eff me.


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That is disappointing for sure.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 04:49:47 PM
lol at this coach/staff
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Here comes a bunch of losers no one has ever heard of or that were just fired for being bad at their job.

oscar needs to just say eff it and go hire some really dirty guys that only care about being dirty and getting paid, then pay them a bunch and let them be dirty.

I mean, there has to be plenty of those guys around, right?

Put a fork in us.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: doom on April 18, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
MY   COACHING STAFF IS ON THE FLOOR!!!1!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2012, 04:56:57 PM
lol at this coach/staff

I'm waiting to lol when it's done.

Then I'll probably cry.

It had potential, though.  Could have been something.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2012, 04:58:12 PM
So are we back to Beane and Zieler?  Begging Undy back?  Calling Gottlieb?  I mean, Gottlieb is on record saying oscar is a good coach....
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 18, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
butthurt over the expedition of hiring a staff is one of the best kinds of butthurt.
Equate "butthurt" to being angry and equate "not butthurt" to being happy. Now, tell me this, using happy or angry, how do you feel about the amount of time it is taking Webster to hire his staff? Agnostic is not a choice.

.....welcome to the butthurt!

Without knowing who is ultimately on staff, why would anyone possibly be upset about this?  Let's say Weber steals the top assistant from Duke and Butler's current head coach to be our last two bench assistants -- three months from now.  You'll be upset over the timing?  I don't give a rat's ass about the timing.  I'll wait and judge the process from the end results.

People are simply choosing to be upset about this as a spillover from other things they're upset about.  I don't see the point in that.

I don't know about where you guys work, but when my office hires we always start by targeting the least-qualified candidates first. When they reject us, then we move on to the better candidates.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fedor on April 18, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
How many coaches do you really need for basketball anyway?  I mean there can only be 5 players on the floor at once.  Do we need a coach for each player?  Seems like overkill to me.  When I watch the games the head coach and maybe, MAYBE the guy next to him are the only ones who say anything.  Those other jokers in suits just sit there and herp derp the whole game!!!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on April 18, 2012, 05:30:37 PM
Time to take the K-State basketball program out behind the woodshed and shoot it.  Put this thing out of its misery.  You are worse than SMU now, for goodness sake. 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2012, 05:53:08 PM
Time to take the K-State basketball program out behind the woodshed and shoot it.  Put this thing out of its misery.  You are worse than SMU now, for goodness sake.

Head to head on court, not yet, but it can't be long, right?

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 06:02:02 PM
lol at this coach/staff

I'm waiting to lol when it's done.

Then I'll probably cry.

It had potential, though.  Could have been something.

Right, but we knew this wouldn't work out in our favor.

The sad thing is, he'll hire a bunch of Mo Valley louses, and then won't fire any of them for under-performance when they sh*t the bed on the recruiting trail over the next five years.  And the tards will dust off the time honored, bullsh*t excuse about not being able to recruit to Manhattan.

oscar Weber, we're in it for the long haul, folks!





Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 18, 2012, 06:13:51 PM
Time to take the K-State basketball program out behind the woodshed and shoot it.  Put this thing out of its misery.  You are worse than SMU now, for goodness sake.

ummmm Beems you seem to be neither WAITING or SEEING.    :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 18, 2012, 06:25:06 PM
lol at this coach/staff
so butthurt so so butthurt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 07:54:41 PM
lol at this coach/staff
so butthurt so so butthurt

very much
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Katpappy on April 18, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
people are butthurt over the lack of hiring of assistants because they are being deprived of the opportunity to be butthurt over the hiring of assistants.
Anybody have any monkey butt chowder?  My butt hurts from the butthurt spreading in this and other threads.  I think we're seeing a butthurt epidemic.  :runaway:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
advancing to natl title game w self's players- ball one
driving natl prominent program into ground - strike one
somehow getting kstate job - ball two
convincing kstate players to stay - ball three
not being able to hire the best recruiter on your former staff - strike two
recruiting a mid-major, no-skills player to fill your open 'ship - strike three
failing to hire your top coaching option from texas - strike four


full count to herr oscar, crowd breathlessly giving him a chance.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 18, 2012, 09:59:30 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 18, 2012, 11:48:47 PM
Disagree.  Not saying that there isn't some residual team burn it down butt hurt coming through, but the timing is a big deal.  The open recruiting period is upon us, and we are at half staff with the distraction of needing to hire 2 assistants still looming.  This is a significant failure.

Casey Scott.  Ever hear of that guy, yosh?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 09:57:19 AM
wallace announces assistants on GPC:

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The first you've probably never heard of
The other is known for his collegiate playing days more than his career as an assistant, so far anyway
neither played at KState
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2012, 09:58:22 AM
wallace announces assistants on GPC:

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The first you've probably never heard of
The other is known for his collegiate playing days more than his career as an assistant, so far anyway
neither played at KState

We all look like ants from the mountains of information that they sit on every single day.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 10:00:32 AM
I also love how he states that nobody has heard of some guy just because he hasn't heard of them. 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
I also love how he states that nobody has heard of some guy just because he hasn't heard of them.

Yes, I enjoyed that a lot.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 10:04:59 AM
Total amateur hour.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Thecatwhisperer on April 19, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
From Ballplayers:

"am told"
1. Forrest told KS no, thinks He can get UNT Head Coaching position...
2. Alvin Brooks, Jr. from a LM in Texas, is being considered
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 10:48:26 AM
Alvin Brooks, Jr. from a LM in Texas, is being considered

seems like he may be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!):

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Mid-major men's basketball programs are not showcased on television nightly or on the front pages of the national sports pages everyday so there is a huge misconception about us. Many people think of mid-major programs and assume the players are not very good and couldn't play at a major Division I school. That assumption is unfair because many mid-major programs have a lot of talented players that choose to play at their school because it was simply was the right fit for them. Here at Sam Houston State, we have one of the best undersized post players in the country in Gilberto Clavell. Clavell is averaging 22.0 points and 8.0 rebounds per game in conference play despite being doubled and sometimes tripled team. He could play for any team in the country.

After seven years of coaching and communicating with different coaches from high major Division I to junior college coaches, I have some very important news for you. Every college conference in the country is very tough and challenging! Night-in and night-out any team can beat anyone in the majority of conferences in America. Southland Conference is no different in that aspect. We are beating up on each other nightly. In the Southland Conference, we have a West and East division with six teams competing in each division. Each team in the West division plays each other twice while playing the teams from the East division once. Sam Houston State is in the West division and we currently have a 3-4 record. In the West division, there are three teams in front of us at 3-3 and one team at 4-2. With nine more games to go, we still have an opportunity to put ourselves in good position to finish first.

In the Southland Conference, there are no automatic bids so winning the conference tournament is the only key to dancing in the NCAA Tournament. We are also playing to win the regular-season title because the team that does that receives an automatic bid to play in the NIT post-season tournament. Our goal is to get better everyday and let our hard work pay off! One practice at a time and one game at a time. Team! Family! Believe!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 10:48:41 AM
2. Alvin Brooks, Jr. from a LM in Texas, is being considered

The SHSU coaching staff looks awesome:

http://www.gobearkats.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=19900&SPID=11358&SPSID=93018
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Thecatwhisperer on April 19, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
 "Alvin is one of the BEST COACHES I've ever been around. He's UNBELIEVABLE in his relationships with young people. He's one of the most OUTSTANDING coaches and recruitersin basketball."

-Billy Clyde Gillispie

"Coach Brooks defines class, character, and a true role model. For a young coach like myself, I look up to Coach Brooks both as a coach and as a man. I am a better person because he has made a positive influence on me personally. Coach Brooks is what a role model is supposed to be."

-Josh Pastner.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 10:52:53 AM
"Alvin is one of the BEST COACHES I've ever been around. He's UNBELIEVABLE in his relationships with young people. He's one of the most OUTSTANDING coaches and recruiters in basketball."

-Billy Clyde Gillispie

"Coach Brooks defines class, character, and a true role model. For a young coach like myself, I look up to Coach Brooks both as a coach and as a man. I am a better person because he has made a positive influence on me personally. Coach Brooks is what a role model is supposed to be."

-Josh Pastner

yeah, that's his dad
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Thecatwhisperer on April 19, 2012, 10:57:53 AM
Maybe, maybe not. V  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Thecatwhisperer on April 19, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
I think those quotes were in reference to Alvin III.  This is his website. Not his fathers.

http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html (http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 11:06:39 AM
I think those quotes were in reference to Alvin III.  This is his website. Not his fathers.

http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html (http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html)

they were about his dad.  his dad coached under gillespie at aTm and KY.  Jr. has no experience and has never recruited anyone in his life. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 11:24:59 AM
Rob says Terrence Rencher is the other

In 2009, he was hired to be an assistant coach at Texas State University. Rencher came to Texas State University after serving as a graduate assistant coach at Saint Louis University under Rick Majerus in 2008-09.

University of Tulsa head coach Doug Wojcik announced on May 11, 2011 the appointment of Terrence Rencher as an assistant coach for the Golden Hurricane.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
At least they aren't super old I guess. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 19, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 19, 2012, 11:29:51 AM
your sam houston texas state golden salukis  :drool:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ben ji on April 19, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
So its alvin and Rencher? Confirmed?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 19, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
what they are saying about AB3   :blush:

http://www.alvinbrooks.com/saying.html
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 19, 2012, 11:36:18 AM
this guy is apparently the best pound for pound recruiter in the game today.  good job oscar!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 19, 2012, 11:37:10 AM
terrence played at ut. he's also currently jobless, right? i mean, we might not be able to hire someone currently employed but we have shown that working at kstate is better than collecting unemployment. that's gotta count for something right? go cats.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2012, 11:42:04 AM
hmm. interesting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 19, 2012, 11:55:36 AM
Guess who Rencher played for at Texas? :gocho:


I would link his twitter account but it's blocked at my work now, so I'll just go ahead and tell you and kill any dramatic effect I might have had going. Penders.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 12:30:26 PM
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"Alvin Brooks III is an outstanding person and basketball coach. I first saw him play in high school and have followed his career closely. Since I had the opportunity to work with his father, I am very familiar about his great work ethic, high moral standards, and professional attitude. I have closely followed him and watched his unbelievable success at the University of Arkansas Fort Smith and Midland College."

Doc Sadler
University of Nebraska
Men's Head Basketball Coach

 :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 19, 2012, 12:32:30 PM
I think those quotes were in reference to Alvin III.  This is his website. Not his fathers.

http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html (http://www.alvinbrooks.com/bio2.html)

they were about his dad.  his dad coached under gillespie at aTm and KY.  Jr. has no experience and has never recruited anyone in his life.

Are you trying to say that Josh Pastner doesn't look up to a nobody assistant at a garbage program, both as a coach and as a man?  Blasphemy. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
What I love about the Alvin Brooks site is that I think they are intentionally confusing people on which Alvin Brooks is which. It's like they're trying to be the young hard working up and coming energetic veteran well-connected former head coach. Visit my website at alvinbrooks.com.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 19, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
Oppenheimer. Think, BOOM!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 12:35:54 PM
Oppenheimer. Think, BOOM!

frank almost built a monster. :frown:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 19, 2012, 12:36:29 PM
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"Alvin Brooks III is an outstanding person and basketball coach. I first saw him play in high school and have followed his career closely. Since I had the opportunity to work with his father, I am very familiar about his great work ethic, high moral standards, and professional attitude. I have closely followed him and watched his unbelievable success at the University of Arkansas Fort Smith and Midland College."

Doc Sadler
University of Nebraska
Men's Head Basketball Coach

 :love:

That endorsement will take him to the top
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 12:37:48 PM
Maybe B-Dub was fooled into thinking he was hiring Sr. and instead hired Jr. who is about as qualified as I am and appears to have as many players in his pocket as I do? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Maybe B-Dub was fooled into thinking he was hiring Sr. and instead hired Jr. who is about as qualified as I am and appears to have as many players in his pocket as I do? 

Who would you believe? Josh Pastner or Doc Sadler? oscar knows that Doc knows how to coach after doc beat him by 40 points so when Doc talks oscar listens. Do not know if oscar and Pastner have any history. I guess that Elite Eight game.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 19, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
Maybe B-Dub was fooled into thinking he was hiring Sr. and instead hired Jr. who is about as qualified as I am and appears to have as many players in his pocket as I do?

Jr is the dad.  Sr would be the grandpa.  I presume we are hiring the III, but that isn't entirely clear from the information is this thread.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 12:49:21 PM
Maybe B-Dub was fooled into thinking he was hiring Sr. and instead hired Jr. who is about as qualified as I am and appears to have as many players in his pocket as I do?

Jr is the dad.  Sr would be the grandpa.  I presume we are hiring the III, but that isn't entirely clear from the information is this thread.

BP confirmed it's III. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2012, 12:50:58 PM
Maybe his dad will help him with his homework :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 19, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
2. Alvin Brooks, Jr. from a LM in Texas, is being considered

The SHSU coaching staff looks awesome:

http://www.gobearkats.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=19900&SPID=11358&SPSID=93018

I like how they spell bearcats.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
Did the unemployed head coach from central michigan with a stud nephew tell us no :(
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 01:19:49 PM
Any chance AB3 has Doc snowed and is dirty as crap?

I am going to assume not, so I would now like to take the time to LOL at the wait and see crowd....while crying...

In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

Also, Currie being out of town right now is genius.  He will be able to make our Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fan base believe that he had no control over the quality of staff since they were all hired while he was out of town.  He will not be blamed for oscar's decisions....he was out of town w/o cell reception.  Best thing he could do is get back and hold a press conf that says something how he is rested now and ready to fill some coaching positions, then act all shocked and surprised when Fitz tells him that they were filled while he was out.  Then he could act perturbed about who was hired and promise that he will be watching this staff closely.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

well, at least one bad thing happened to him....
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

well, at least one bad thing happened to him....

Must have missed it.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

well, at least one bad thing happened to him....

Must have missed it.   :dunno:

Rumblings Frank was aggressively trying to get Angel to follow him to USC.  Angel turned him down.  Frank was not very happy about it. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 19, 2012, 01:31:48 PM
butthurt levels rising
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 01:37:06 PM
In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

well, at least one bad thing happened to him....

Must have missed it.   :dunno:

Rumblings Frank was aggressively trying to get Angel to follow him to USC.  Angel turned him down.  Frank was not very happy about it.

Oh man.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: treysolid on April 19, 2012, 02:31:46 PM
In related news: this has been a fantastic week for Frank.  I mean, he got to Frank some kids, publicly shove his boss under the twitter bus, and now this.

well, at least one bad thing happened to him....

Must have missed it.   :dunno:

Rumblings Frank was aggressively trying to get Angel to follow him to USC.  Angel turned him down.  Frank was not very happy about it.

i dunno, it seems like a long way to travel just to die in a house fire.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 19, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 02:57:27 PM
Too bad tweeting info first is looked down upon for his clientele.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 02:59:12 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

:lol:

Oh squeaks...

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 03:00:36 PM
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Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

That's RICK BALL, BITCH!


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: captaincrap on April 19, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

I would think those guys should love the "new age", since it provides 90% of their inside scoops.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2012, 03:12:08 PM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 03:13:52 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 19, 2012, 03:15:38 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

I would think those guys should love the "new age", since it provides 90% of their inside scoops.

Boom.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
also, lol at Wallace, the tubbys DJamer, always getting pissed and referencing journalism and his hard work
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
Quote
Ryan Wallace
?@call_me_WALLACE

New age of journalism kind of sucks. You dig & work for leads & contacts, only to have a Tweet or message board post leak it to everyone 1st

I would think those guys should love the "new age", since it provides 90% of their inside scoops.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 19, 2012, 03:32:16 PM
also, lol at Wallace, the tubbys DJamer, always getting pissed and referencing journalism and his hard work

lol at him being mad at this "new age of journalism" like he's some crusty newspaper vet curmudgeon type banging out articles on his type writer at his home office in hoboken or something. oh the good old days says ryan wallace.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
also, lol at Wallace, the tubbys DJamer, always getting pissed and referencing journalism and his hard work

lol at him being mad at this "new age of journalism" like he's some crusty newspaper vet curmudgeon type banging out articles on his type writer at his home office in hoboken or something. oh the good old days says ryan wallace.

Quote from:  ryan wallace
when I'm working in deep cover on an investigative piece or posting a thread asking for questions for the gopowercat podcast or DJamer'ing a set of top 40 hits at tubbys the last thing I need is someone spilling info all over the internet that I knew about but didn't have a chance to write about yet. have some respect for us hard working legitimate journalists! I WORK SO HARD!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
Should just set up an acct that blocks all but GPC'ers, then retweet his ass off and they can claim that they are only serving their customers and using twitter.  Also, they need a twitter feed on their board page.

But, hey, that's just if I was some dumbass that hired employees based on bikini pics.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EllToPay on April 19, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
Man, I've got a feeling CC is going to let loose with some GPC stories.

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2012, 03:45:48 PM
If I was a hard working journalist, I would probably put something together that has more value than can be expressed in 140 characters.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
If I was a hard working journalist, I would probably put something together that has more value than can be expressed in 140 characters.

Yeah, and you could link a customer to it via twitter.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MadCat on April 19, 2012, 03:56:49 PM
Man, I've got a feeling CC is going to let loose with some GPC stories.

 :crossfingers:
"It's Patterson happens"  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 19, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
Man, I've got a feeling CC is going to let loose with some GPC stories.

 :crossfingers:

It's been a while since we've posted a guest editorial on the goEMAW blog...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 04:10:49 PM
Man, I've got a feeling CC is going to let loose with some GPC stories.

 :crossfingers:

It's been a while since we've posted a guest editorial on the goEMAW blog...

Garth....  :cry:

Could have been huge.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 04:12:51 PM
also, lol at Wallace, the tubbys DJamer, always getting pissed and referencing journalism and his hard work

lol at him being mad at this "new age of journalism" like he's some crusty newspaper vet curmudgeon type banging out articles on his type writer at his home office in hoboken or something. oh the good old days says ryan wallace.


His honesty and moral journalism twitter lecture is still one of my favorite Ryan "Grizzled Journalist" Wallace moments.


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Ryan Wallace @call_me_WALLACE 15m  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open

Ok, I'm about to blow up your Twitter feed. I can't hold this in any longer, so here goes... Apologies ahead of time...

For those of you bugging me to "spill beans" on this Venables bologna because "we are journalists", you're adding to beliefs I can't stand.

No matter how bad journalism has become thanks to things like Twitter & the social belief that it's all about "being 1st" or "breaking news"

That's NOT what it's about. Journalism is about sharing worthy material with an audience. Sure there's digging & questioning in the approach

But there's also things like being credible & reliable. Because, you see, to get those interesting stories out of folks, you have to earn

trust. You have to show them that you'll be persistent because it's your job, but that you'll also hold morals & your word. Because moments

do arise where you have to keep a clear mind & understand that it's more important to have quality & strength behind your career, not a rep

of being thirsty for fame & a longing for constantly having the spotlight for "being the first". It's not always about what the public

wants. It should always be about what the people need. In this case, the people NEED to know who KSU's next DC will be & all I can say is

that person will not be Brent Venables. So rather than criticizing those of us who "keep secrets", why not pat us on the back for carrying

a tradition of quality journalism standards and moving past that garbage to work on what matters- information on a different DC. The next DC

So if you want honesty & moral journalism, you're following the right guy. If you only want the dirt, best follow somebody else. It's not me
 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 19, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
Did he tweet his journalism manifesto to be ironic?
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
No, he's too stupid for irony
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on April 19, 2012, 05:41:35 PM
Shingler?

Dalonte as next head coach!?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on April 19, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
Shingler?

Dalonte as next head coach!?

goddamnit
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 19, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
God wallace is a rough ridin' idiot. I should call fitz up, have him fire wallace, take the job, and burn down gpc.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 19, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
#TeamShingler #TeamBrooksIII 


Sounds like we where 24 hours away from having both Forrest and Howard, will take the younger versions, better than hiring old fart X and Os guys. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
And DJamer Wally's meltdown begins...

:lol:

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GPCwallace

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Re: Wallace   

So first you say you don't want stories just inside scoop, but you follow that up by asking for... a story? I'm confused.

Here's the deal...

I love that we have such well connected subscribers. I wasn't upset at Ballplayers for him giving his info about Forrest and Alvin Brooks Jr. If you have inside information that hasn't been posted here yet, why hold it?

It's just disheartening as a journalist to sit and call 80 million different people, digging through phone directories and Google searches in an attempt to get a hold of someone, finally reach them with no answer, and in the time you're waiting for a return call, the story breaks from someone else through Twitter or a message board. Hey, it's society today and I need to learn to deal with it. But if you had seen the efforts Rob and I went through yesterday just to get Brooks and Rencher's names, maybe you'd understand a little.

I wanted to tell you all last night the names of the coaches we had heard were linked to the K-State openings, but I found myself caught in an all too common pickle here on GPC.

- If I release the names, now everyone knows. Not just fans and subscribers, but reporters and other writers, who no matter if they're friends of ours or not, are competition. No matter how you slice and dice it, GPC still covers K-State news and we still enjoy being the first to break it, and with more than just a first and last name. If we're going to hand out information in today's day and age, we will do so when we have something concrete to share (ie- Not only break the names of the candidates, but also a story with comments from each. That way you're not only getting the names from us first, but also quotes before any other site or affiliation has time to track down either).
- Which brings me to Part II. Let's say I release the names anyway... what else was there to report? The person who gave us the names never said whether or not he wanted us to publicly distribute what he had heard. So I wouldn't have been able to tell you where we got it from. To that point, neither Rob nor myself had spoken any words at all to Brooks (ignored our calls) and Rencher (who we still didn't have a number for), so it's not like I could share with you their comments on the rumors.

Rob, and myself in particular, decided to sit on it until we had more information to share, directly from one of the two candidates, hoping they would get back in touch with us... which didn't happen.

It's the life of a journalist today and that's what I was "bit%^ing" about. It's not as cut and dry as it used to be.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on April 19, 2012, 06:31:24 PM
you either bring the butthurt or get the eff out
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 19, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 06:47:24 PM
 :sdeek:

Holy crap.  Am I reading this right.  The reason Forrest is going to LSU is because they will pay him more than K-State will if he's not hired as head coach?

Quote
Shawn Forrest accepted a job on Weber's staff last week. That lasted roughly nine hours. He changed his mind because he interviewed for the North Texas head coaching job. The change of heart was also due to the fact that Johnny Jones could pay him more money as an assistant at LSU should he fail to be hired by North Texas.

This is why LSU is his backup plan. The AD at N. Texas is planning to leave on vacation next Wednesday. Everyone expects a decision before then.

Other things:

When Forrest declined the job, he suggested Alvin Brooks III (Sam Houston State) and Terrence Rencher (formerly of Tulsa) to oscar Weber as good options to make a recruiting splash in Texas. I haven't bee able to reach either, but Brooks has gone out of his way to avoid my calls. Take that however you want. Could mean something is up, but it might be nothing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2012, 06:57:16 PM
I mean, I enjoy that crap so much. How hard can it be to get Rencher's number? and the home of an internet magazine pining for the good old days. I mean seriously. lol
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 19, 2012, 07:11:38 PM
here are my two thoughts:  other sports journalists don't appear to endure gpc's constant, vexing burden.  why don't they just ask ballplayers for the info in the first place?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 07:16:04 PM
I think they're too stupid to.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 19, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
gpc is a nice distraction while we get humiliated on the assistant coaching search front.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 19, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
ZOMG BUTT HURT SO BUTT HURT
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 19, 2012, 07:47:10 PM
Quote
The AD at N. Texas is planning to leave on vacation next Wednesday. Everyone expects a decision before then. 

:dubious:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
why don't they just ask ballplayers for the info in the first place?

yeah, this is a good point
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 19, 2012, 07:49:17 PM
I think they're too butthurt to ask.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 19, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
"Hey, BP, I know you pay me for info on KSU and stuff, but do you know anything about our coaching search?  How about what recruits we are looking at?"

Lol

Fitz must feel like he would have to give BP his money back, and....well....$10 is a couple wells at Tubbys on a Wednesday night.

Sent from my MB611 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 08:45:22 PM
DJamer Wally really needs a mentor.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EllToPay on April 19, 2012, 08:54:10 PM
Rob, and myself in particular, decided to sit on it until we had more information to share...

Squeaks already has the company line down. :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2012, 09:03:05 PM
Rob, and myself in particular, decided to sit on it until we had more information to share...

Squeaks already has the company line down. :lol:

He found himself caught in an all too common pickle.  You really can't blame him.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2012, 09:33:26 PM
I wanted to give DJamer Wally the benefit of the doubt...but after that post....jfc. He needs to find something else to do. He stands no chance.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 19, 2012, 09:35:17 PM
so the guy that is known as a guy that can recruit texas decides to go to a different school and then based on his suggestion we hire two guys that will be going up against him in recruiting texas. did i really just read that?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 19, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
I wanted to give DJamer Wally the benefit of the doubt...but after that post....jfc. He needs to find something else to do. He stands no chance.

how can you even say that??? he made phone calls yesterday and google searched for phone numbers.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
I wanted to give DJamer Wally the benefit of the doubt...but after that post....jfc. He needs to find something else to do. He stands no chance.

how can you even say that??? he made phone calls yesterday and google searched for phone numbers.

god i hope he checked Fitz's Rolodex first.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: O-town Kat on April 19, 2012, 09:43:30 PM
 Need webcams in gpc world HQ so those tards can see Wallace burnin up the phones and phone directories.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 20, 2012, 12:22:36 AM
So who the tuck are these guys again?

If this ends poorly I might join #teambutthurt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 20, 2012, 12:27:28 AM
I haven't been able to spend as much time on this board lately as I had previously but let me tell you all how pleased I am with the butthurt movement.   I truly love this crap.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on April 20, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
IMO our only other option is.........#GOTTLIEB4KSUASSTCOACH  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
IMO our only other option is.........#GOTTLIEB4KSUASSTCOACH  :emawkid:

Band-aides are best removed in one fast rip.  the pain only lasts a short time.  Trying to slowly remove them, gingerly and concerned about making it feel as gentle as possible, ultimately ends up drawing out the duration of pain.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: puniraptor on April 20, 2012, 09:17:36 AM
if you run in the rain you get more wet because you are intercepting rain drops with your frontal area that otherwise would have missed you.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
if you run in the rain you get more wet because you are intercepting rain drops with your frontal area that otherwise would have missed you.

Bull.  I watched that Myth Busters like over a year ago.

"no appreciable diff"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2012, 09:21:41 AM
Quote from:  bp
Know Brooks Father VERY well, Know Son a little ... Good People!

Rencher is interesting as he knows many of my N.Y.C. contacts ... attends my Eastern JAMboree ...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2012, 09:40:04 AM
Seriously, though. What a dogshit staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: puniraptor on April 20, 2012, 09:43:53 AM
if you run in the rain you get more wet because you are intercepting rain drops with your frontal area that otherwise would have missed you.

Bull.  I watched that Myth Busters like over a year ago.

"no appreciable diff"

Thats weird, cause I watched the same Myth Busters and they appreciated the difference.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 20, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Seriously, though. What a dogshit staff.

is this dogshit staff better or worse than our last dogshit staff that we've been bitching about for the last 5 years?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 20, 2012, 09:49:12 AM
There's simply no way this staff will be able to top a staff that brought us Robert "don't sign that LOI" Upshaw, who was so highly sought by other schools he ended up at . . . Fresno State (with hints about being a qualifying risk) .  . and Laimonas "can he even make it to campus" Chatkevicius.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
if you run in the rain you get more wet because you are intercepting rain drops with your frontal area that otherwise would have missed you.

Bull.  I watched that Myth Busters like over a year ago.

"no appreciable diff"

Thats weird, cause I watched the same Myth Busters and they appreciated the difference.

Well, it was over a year ago for me....  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 20, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
Seriously, though. What a dogshit staff.

is this dogshit staff better or worse than our last dogshit staff that we've been bitching about for the last 5 years?

heh
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 20, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Seriously, though. What a dogshit staff.

is this dogshit staff better or worse than our last dogshit staff that we've been bitching about for the last 5 years?

equal-ish.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MadCat on April 20, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
All Too Common Pickle Crashes Lemon Party

 :blindfold:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2012, 10:01:32 AM
lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan?

Would take
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: doom on April 20, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan?

Would take

x 1,000,000
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Seriously, though. What a dogshit staff.

is this dogshit staff better or worse than our last dogshit staff that we've been bitching about for the last 5 years?

Worse. I was very complimentary of the previous staff (sans undewood).


lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan? 

I would take Shingler over any of these clowns in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
I doubt we even have these guys in the bag yet, probably working the back channels to get jobs on D2 staffs
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Thecatwhisperer on April 20, 2012, 10:25:45 AM
If you were a successful assistant who was bringing in top recruits and were asked to go to a school where you would be handcuffed from playing the game everyone else winks and nods about but doesn't admit, would you want to come coach here and risk adding "this guy knows how to bring in the 3 star recruits" to your resume?  I wouldn't.   :flush: :curse:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2012, 10:33:09 AM
lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan? 

I would take Shingler over any of these clowns in a heartbeat.

yeah, no crap. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 20, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
lol, just saw cassidy's post yesterday about Shingler interest.  LMAO at Currie allowing that.  John, why don't we just hire Curtis Malone's BFF to come back to Manhattan? 

I would take Shingler over any of these clowns in a heartbeat.

yeah, no crap. 

Warm up the batteries.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 20, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
http://www.morganstatebears.com/staff.aspx?path=&staff=140  :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 20, 2012, 01:39:15 PM
http://www.morganstatebears.com/staff.aspx?path=&staff=140  :love:

He gets his shirts tailored at the same place Currie does.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 20, 2012, 01:45:18 PM
why would he leave morgan st for kstate?  he wouldn't.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
http://www.morganstatebears.com/staff.aspx?path=&staff=140  :love:

He gets his shirts tailored at the same place Currie does.

also scott drew
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MadCat on April 20, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
lol...the morgan state logo shakes when I mouse over it (easily amused)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 20, 2012, 03:42:11 PM
Quote
Josh Eilert was in Manhattan this last week interviewing for the Director of Basketball Operations position.

Some of you might remember Josh from Bob Huggins staff at K-State in 2006 when he was a graduate assistant. He's been Huggins' Video Coordinator at West Virginia ever since.

Eilert is a former K-State walk-on who played from 2002-2004 and is a native of Osborne, KS.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 20, 2012, 05:41:09 PM
:lol: at Weberites.  You guys are falling of the wagon now, right?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2012, 05:49:01 PM
Wait....Eilert may come back....  :surprised:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 20, 2012, 05:52:48 PM
Wait....Eilert may come back....  :surprised:

Rumblings.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2012, 06:15:26 PM
He has a really weird shaped chin
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 20, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
Wait....Eilert may come back....  :surprised:

Between that and Sprads staying, I'm not too confident in my real-life PI skills anymore.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
Can someone with more knowledge pleaseexplain how we allow LSU to reportedly outbid us for an assistant coach?

We did pay Dalonte Hill 400k once upon a time right?

I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball, but having a very hard time with it right now.

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Forrest definitely going to LSU

When Johnny Jones left North Texas for Louisiana State, many were interested in who the former Tigers assistant would hire to finalize his coaching staff. As an assistant, Shawn Forrest was known for his recruiting prowess and had been called, by those around the program, as Jones' 'second-hand man'. However, Forrest was reportedly an option for North Texas' coaching vacancy, and it had been reported Forrest was also in the process of considering a chance to join oscar Weber at Kansas State.

According to Brett Vito of the Denton Record-Chronicle, Forrest will follow Jones to LSU. Vito also reports that it is highly likely UNT assistant Charlie Leonard will accompany Jones in the SEC.

What does this mean for LSU? First, the hire of Forrest means it will be hard for the Baylors and other high-major programs that would dip into Louisiana for prospects to continue this tactic. Forrest was one of the best recruiters at the non-BCS level, and his addition to the LSU staff should serve the Tigers well. For North Texas, the move of Forrest and (likely move of) Leonard means the UNT athletic administration will probably target a head coach for the opening. Before the hire of Jones, UNT had struck out with hiring assistants for the top spot; it's likely that rather than dip into the pool of assistants, UNT will try to bring someone aboard who already has head coaching experience.

- Matt Giles

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 21, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball


:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 21, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball


:lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kim carnes on April 21, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Can someone with more knowledge pleaseexplain how we allow LSU to reportedly outbid us for an assistant coach?

We did pay Dalonte Hill 400k once upon a time right?

I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball, but having a very hard time with it right now.

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Forrest definitely going to LSU

When Johnny Jones left North Texas for Louisiana State, many were interested in who the former Tigers assistant would hire to finalize his coaching staff. As an assistant, Shawn Forrest was known for his recruiting prowess and had been called, by those around the program, as Jones' 'second-hand man'. However, Forrest was reportedly an option for North Texas' coaching vacancy, and it had been reported Forrest was also in the process of considering a chance to join oscar Weber at Kansas State.

According to Brett Vito of the Denton Record-Chronicle, Forrest will follow Jones to LSU. Vito also reports that it is highly likely UNT assistant Charlie Leonard will accompany Jones in the SEC.

What does this mean for LSU? First, the hire of Forrest means it will be hard for the Baylors and other high-major programs that would dip into Louisiana for prospects to continue this tactic. Forrest was one of the best recruiters at the non-BCS level, and his addition to the LSU staff should serve the Tigers well. For North Texas, the move of Forrest and (likely move of) Leonard means the UNT athletic administration will probably target a head coach for the opening. Before the hire of Jones, UNT had struck out with hiring assistants for the top spot; it's likely that rather than dip into the pool of assistants, UNT will try to bring someone aboard who already has head coaching experience.

- Matt Giles


I would say that more than likely LSU has more money to spend than we do.  That could explain why they were able to outbid us. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 21, 2012, 02:40:25 PM
Can someone with more knowledge pleaseexplain how we allow LSU to reportedly outbid us for an assistant coach?

We did pay Dalonte Hill 400k once upon a time right?

I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball, but having a very hard time with it right now.

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Forrest definitely going to LSU

When Johnny Jones left North Texas for Louisiana State, many were interested in who the former Tigers assistant would hire to finalize his coaching staff. As an assistant, Shawn Forrest was known for his recruiting prowess and had been called, by those around the program, as Jones' 'second-hand man'. However, Forrest was reportedly an option for North Texas' coaching vacancy, and it had been reported Forrest was also in the process of considering a chance to join oscar Weber at Kansas State.

According to Brett Vito of the Denton Record-Chronicle, Forrest will follow Jones to LSU. Vito also reports that it is highly likely UNT assistant Charlie Leonard will accompany Jones in the SEC.

What does this mean for LSU? First, the hire of Forrest means it will be hard for the Baylors and other high-major programs that would dip into Louisiana for prospects to continue this tactic. Forrest was one of the best recruiters at the non-BCS level, and his addition to the LSU staff should serve the Tigers well. For North Texas, the move of Forrest and (likely move of) Leonard means the UNT athletic administration will probably target a head coach for the opening. Before the hire of Jones, UNT had struck out with hiring assistants for the top spot; it's likely that rather than dip into the pool of assistants, UNT will try to bring someone aboard who already has head coaching experience.

- Matt Giles


I would say that more than likely LSU has more money to spend than we do.  That could explain why they were able to outbid us.

LSU doesn't care about basketball that is the problem, that being said Forrest will be the AHC at LSU over being the 2nd assistant at KSU.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 21, 2012, 02:48:56 PM
I would say that more than likely LSU has more money to spend than we do.  That could explain why they were able to outbid us.

i would argue that the millionaire that bids $5 for a juicy hamburger isn't outbid by the twomillionaire that purchases the burger for $10 because the twomillionaire has twice as much money.  he just isn't as committed to eating the hamburger.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on April 21, 2012, 03:08:25 PM
I would say that more than likely LSU has more money to spend than we do.  That could explain why they were able to outbid us.

i would argue that the millionaire that bids $5 for a juicy hamburger isn't outbid by the twomillionaire that purchases the burger for $10 because the twomillionaire has twice as much money.  he just isn't as committed to eating the hamburger.

Take notes kim.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 21, 2012, 03:29:41 PM
I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball


:lol:

 :lol:

I haven't reached acceptance yet.  Still gullibly holding out.


Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 21, 2012, 04:27:57 PM
Good luck with that!!!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2012, 04:36:50 PM
Man I actually let myself believe for a few days we were trying to get package recruiting deals with assistants.  John mumped me up pretty bad, I'm hoping I reach apathy soon.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: dobbie4ksu on April 21, 2012, 04:53:53 PM
Ok so there are 14 pages, so I am not just going to read it all to find out... BUT is DK def. coming back to coach with HCBW?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: massofcatfan on April 21, 2012, 05:03:06 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SuperG on April 21, 2012, 06:34:52 PM
A famous comedian once said, "Comedy is all about timing".

Before it's said and done, John Currie and oscar Weber will make a joke out of you and me, not to mention the Kansas State basketball program. It will take approximately 6 years for him to deliver the punchline.

Here's to the anticipation. Here's to all of the tears of laughter and joy that we'll experience along the way. Here's to goEMAW.com. Here's to Catsketball!

 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 21, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
 Butthurt Butthurt Butthurt Butthurt

Am I doing this right?  tia
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2012, 07:46:52 PM
In a weird way, it is sort of comforting to not care about mens  again
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: felix rex on April 21, 2012, 09:14:10 PM
In a weird way, it is sort of comforting to not care about mens  again

I have already clipped enough stitches on my fave shirt so that the powercat logo will just naturally break free and drift away when angel does, leaving a blank purple slate of at least 80% cotton blend where my heart used to be.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 21, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
Ballplayers says Jay Price for DOBO more than fine with this.  :eye:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 8manpick on April 22, 2012, 03:08:12 AM
I'm trying to convince myself we still are still committed to be being competitive in basketball
:lol:
:lol:


 :bawl:  :curse:  :angry:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 22, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2012, 10:23:56 AM
(ha)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 22, 2012, 10:41:45 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for some reason.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 22, 2012, 10:44:00 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.



Me too. Mostly because I assumed he'd end up on the staff, and to know he's not taking up an assistant coaching spot is comforting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2012, 10:49:10 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.

more time for him to message board?  IIRC, there was an Illinois poster on here who claimed he got on the message boards and defended oscar. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 22, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.

more time for him to message board?  IIRC, there was an Illinois poster on here who claimed he got on the message boards and defended oscar.

He's old though. He may not know how to use a computer like oscar.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 22, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.



Me too. Mostly because I assumed he'd end up on the staff, and to know he's not taking up an assistant coaching spot is comforting.

Price probably isn't a bad assistant, and he has a ton of experience, so this probably wouldn't be horrible.

The thought of Price on the recruiting trail made me cringe, so, yeah, I'd rank this as a 6.5 on a scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is excited and 1 is angry.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.

more time for him to message board?  IIRC, there was an Illinois poster on here who claimed he got on the message boards and defended oscar.

He's old though. He may not know how to use a computer like oscar.

if oldfella can figure it out, I'm sure price can.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on April 22, 2012, 11:52:54 AM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.

more time for him to message board?  IIRC, there was an Illinois poster on here who claimed he got on the message boards and defended oscar.

I always thought that if Rivals needed some info, they went to Price, he'd give them anything. So I'm hopefully we'll get some good (albeit slanted) insidery info from the basketball side of things.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 22, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
I like Jay Price as DOBO for seem reason.

more time for him to message board?  IIRC, there was an Illinois poster on here who claimed he got on the message boards and defended oscar.

I always thought that if Rivals needed some info, they went to Price, he'd give them anything. So I'm hopefully we'll get some good (albeit slanted) insidery info from the basketball side of things.

Probably, but the problem is we're never going to like the info.  So, then there's that.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 22, 2012, 12:17:15 PM
Wtf is jay price?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on April 22, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
There are two things I know about Cire.

1. His/her life goal is to become a pediatric surgeon.

2. He/she will let nothing stand between him/her and a tire swing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WildcatNation on April 23, 2012, 05:51:42 PM
Do not care if I Luked or not

Rob Cassidy (@robcassidy22)
4/23/12 5:44 PM
Sam Houston State's Alvin Brooks III will be in Manhattan to interview for a spot on oscar Weber's staff tomorrow. Bio: gobearkats.com/ViewArticle.db…

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on April 23, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
 :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on April 23, 2012, 05:57:24 PM
Do not care if I Luked or not

Rob Cassidy (@robcassidy22)
4/23/12 5:44 PM
Sam Houston State's Alvin Brooks III will be in Manhattan to interview for a spot on oscar Weber's staff tomorrow. Bio: gobearkats.com/ViewArticle.db…

i would like this, strangely. Some young guy from Texas who is connected in Texas. Give me Lowery, Brooks III, and Shingler and I would be pleased.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WildcatNation on April 23, 2012, 05:57:48 PM
54-84 record as a coach and no postseason...ever. Will fit right in.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 23, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
Another turd on the shitpile.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2012, 08:51:18 PM
Man I hope brooks has a hard time getting weber to call him back too.  Hopefully Weber doesn't get his Jitterbug hooked up until its too late on this one.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2012, 08:55:22 PM
I don't see it mattering who coaches up our crap recruits at this point.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2012, 08:59:03 PM
I don't see it mattering who coaches up our crap recruits at this point.

Fair point. 

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 23, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Nothing drives you towards apathy more than watching abject incompetence in action and not being able to do a rough ridin' thing about it.  This band of asshats from Currie on down are going to eff this program 6 ways from Sunday. #burnitdown #teamhorns
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 23, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 23, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
Slimz....is that a real quote?  That's a real quote, isn't it?  We're so mumped.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 23, 2012, 10:56:58 PM
I have not traced its veracity all the way back to a primary source, but it's attributed to Bubbles on all the internet "Inspirational Quote" collections, so I'm taking it as true.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BostonPancake on April 24, 2012, 06:43:30 AM
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 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 24, 2012, 06:45:57 AM
I have not traced its veracity all the way back to a primary source, but it's attributed to Bubbles on all the internet "Inspirational Quote" collections, so I'm taking it as true.
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It's legit.  It's from after one of Dr. oscar's abortions this season.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2012, 10:07:23 AM
it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 11:06:23 AM
it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2012, 11:59:33 AM
it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.
give me directions to the fantasy land you live in where Doug actually brought in a staff and I will let him know
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 24, 2012, 12:17:36 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 



If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 



If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 24, 2012, 12:24:03 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 



If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 12:30:48 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 



If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.

Started what . . . the incredible recruiting pipeline that followed?   :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 24, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
I don't think pointing out that the current staff is just as garbage as the last staff should be listed as a positve under someone who makes me uncomfortable.  It's like choosing one hooker over another because she has less crabs.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2012, 12:43:43 PM
Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 



If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.

Started what . . . the incredible recruiting pipeline that followed?   :lol:

Dax, as much as you are trying to depants several of us who are complaining about the current sitch we are in, you are looking pretty silly yourself in minimizing the last 5 yrs.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 24, 2012, 12:46:01 PM
Beas/Jamar/McGruder/Anderson/Sutton - Anyone I'm missing?  I would take that group, only Anderson was kinda a bust I wouldn't even say that since he was out after a year and was big in the NCAA tourney win.

Franks initial coaches were not necessarily super elite, but were quite a bit better than Weber's incoming coaches.  His coaches on the way out were arguably a bit better, but at that point, Frank was a known personality/successful coach.  Weber is known, but has no personality and limited success.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2012, 12:48:32 PM
The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2012, 12:59:51 PM
hard to be overly optimistic.

:sdeek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
hard to be overly optimistic.

:sdeek:

Yeah, we all get disappointed. I was hoping for something like Howard or even Jones and its frustrating to be forced to settle. A young coach, even from smaller schools, could be really good if he has the right connections, but a known commodity would've been better.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.

that's an effing big if.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.

that's an effing big if.

Of course it is, I'm just saying that's why Frank's staff got a pass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 24, 2012, 01:22:44 PM
Of course it is, I'm just saying that's why Frank's staff got a pass.

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 01:39:01 PM

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.


I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 24, 2012, 01:48:20 PM

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.


I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive.

Huggins offered and signed Pullen. Hill was his lead recruiter. Retaining Martin and Hill kept Jake in the fold. Good for everybody involved.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 01:51:58 PM

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.


I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 

I would say Upshaw and Gipson (part of your others) blow anyone Rencher or Brooks III has ever recruited out of the water. They are definitely far better recruits than the mediocre PF whom I am intentionally forgetting his name.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.
give me directions to the fantasy land you live in where Doug actually brought in a staff and I will let him know

DO YOU THINK DOUG DIDN'T ALREADY MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS??? :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 02:00:40 PM

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.


I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 

I would say Upshaw and Gipson (part of your others) blow anyone Rencher or Brooks III has ever recruited out of the water. They are definitely far better recruits than the mediocre PF whom I am intentionally forgetting his name.

Yeah not sure why people are killing Evans, he had a damn good year.  Upshaw is far better than anyone that 'Te landed the last 4 years.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
Evans was about as "wait and see" as they come.  Te left and EMAWs went off the deep end.  We wanted another Te and ended up promoting a grad assistant named Evans.  We were dissapointed.  We settled.  He turned out to be OK. 

Funny how history changes on this board.     
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2012, 02:11:25 PM
Hey guys, If oscar weber just wins games we'll be fine.  If he just recruits talented players we'll be fine.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
Evans was about as "wait and see" as they come.  Te left and EMAWs went off the deep end.  We wanted another Te and ended up promoting a grad assistant named Evans.  We were dissapointed.  We settled.  He turned out to be OK. 

Funny how history changes on this board.     

Dalonte leaving didn't get much of a meltdown at all:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12949.0


And you're right about people "waiting and seeing" w/ LaMont:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=13167.0

But it's easier to swallow because Frank and Figger were doing a pretty good job.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
Is Upshaw even going to qualify?

Darrell Johnson comes with more listed D1 offers than about half of Frank's recruits, and I'll even toss out 1, maybe 2 (albeit I don't see why a school would waste a late official visit on a guy they didn't intend to offer) of those offers listed.   The kid lists 3 official visits to: Big 12, ACC, Big 10 schools.

Yet the perpetually butthurt crowd is going to deem the Weber regime an utter failure and declare the Frank Martin regime virtually unprecedented in K-State basketball history . . . an era that hung exactly ZERO banners, and put exactly ZERO trophies of significance in the trophy case.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 24, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 02:40:37 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 02:42:24 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans.

I wouldn't have cared if Frank was recruiting nothing but 1 star DITR's as long as he took them to the tournament every year. Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2012, 02:47:54 PM
Yet the perpetually butthurt crowd is going to deem the Weber regime an utter failure and declare the Frank Martin regime virtually unprecedented in K-State basketball history . . . an era that hung exactly ZERO banners, and put exactly ZERO trophies of significance in the trophy case.

No more toocoolforschool'rs?

It was unprecedented in my EMAW life.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 24, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans.

I wouldn't have cared if Frank was recruiting nothing but 1 star DITR's as long as he took them to the tournament every year. Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

The last three years his recruiting wasn't bad. (Which actually makes the lack of success worse.)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 24, 2012, 02:56:49 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Who did Figger land??? Nick and Gip, who else?

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.


Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.


Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank.

oscar Weber could recruit a team with more talent than the Lakers and I would still hate his guts if he couldn't even make the NIT with them.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 24, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 03:04:02 PM
Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 24, 2012, 03:07:41 PM
Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.


Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank. 

Those final 3 years were all once Howard got there.  Howard is not at K-State
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Also I thought we already established that unproven is better than established losers?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 24, 2012, 03:19:22 PM
Also I thought we already established that unproven is better than established losers?

well, you can't complain about the last two names on oscar's list then because they are unproven if they're anything
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 03:20:26 PM

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 03:29:14 PM

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

I think the issue is WHO Weber is losing his assistant coach targets to.  Also he's been on the job for a month and the only assistant formally announced is the S&C coach.  Every other staff is out evaluating and Weber is interviewing his 48th choice from Sam Houston State.  If Frank took a month and 39 nos to hire Evans people would have been pissed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2012, 03:35:36 PM

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 03:40:36 PM
Just watched some of Robert "African American Jason Bennett" Upshaw's "highlight" videos.

So that's a "prized recruit"?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 03:49:01 PM
Just watched some of Robert "African American Jason Bennett" Upshaw's "highlight" videos.

So that's a "prized recruit"?

Bigs are pretty tough to evaluate. He definitely is raw, though, and he wasn't going to be a big contributor next year.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 24, 2012, 03:49:18 PM

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

I think the issue is WHO Weber is losing his assistant coach targets to.  Also he's been on the job for a month and the only assistant formally announced is the S&C coach.  Every other staff is out evaluating and Weber is interviewing his 48th choice from Sam Houston State.  If Frank took a month and 39 nos to hire Evans people would have been pissed.

Lowery is official.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 24, 2012, 03:53:08 PM

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

Those are some seriously long sentences. 

Carry on. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 04:05:20 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2012, 04:12:41 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

look...both of our analogies are horrible and i'm personally sorry to everyone for starting the analogy war. at the end of the day, it's a great thing for you that you are interested in kstate bball and think weber can do well. i wish i could switch my brain to think that way but i can't. it's not possible.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 04:13:40 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

You are seriously undervaluing Frank as a coach. oscar Weber is a huge downgrade.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KsJoey on April 24, 2012, 04:15:16 PM
Being reported on TOS that Brad Korn of SIU, most likely to KSU.,...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Being reported on TOS that Brad Korn of SIU, most likely to KSU.,...

Brad Korn sounds like a made-up name. Are we even sure he's a real person?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KsJoey on April 24, 2012, 04:18:02 PM
http://www.siusalukis.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/korn_brad00.html
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: bruce on April 24, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
http://www.siusalukis.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/korn_brad00.html
He's a 6-9 ginger wearing a pink shirt under a giant sweater. Recruits love that crap.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
Everything about that kid screams Wisconsin.

 :cry:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 24, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
if we end up taking bobo drummond over gray i'm going postal
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
Oh, man, I bet people called him Candy Korn when he was younger.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KsJoey on April 24, 2012, 04:37:40 PM
He needs to use a backwards R in his last name...   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 24, 2012, 04:39:24 PM
Oh, man, I bet people called him Candy Korn when he was younger.

People don't talk that sh@t now though, since he landed that hot piece of Mrs. Korn.  That's a rough ridin' handsome woman. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 24, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
it's a great thing for you that you are interested in kstate bball and think weber can do well. i wish i could switch my brain to think that way but i can't. it's not possible.

rick daris, you are kind and understanding person.  i admire you.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MadCat on April 24, 2012, 04:41:42 PM
Scott Frost's long lost brother?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 04:42:51 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

You are seriously undervaluing Frank as a coach. oscar Weber is a huge downgrade.

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 24, 2012, 04:42:55 PM
Oh, man, I bet people called him Candy Korn when he was younger.

People don't talk that sh@t now though, since he landed that hot piece of Mrs. Korn.  That's a rough ridin' handsome woman.

Why would that keep people from talking crap, though? Is her name Candy or something? I can see how that would get confusing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on April 24, 2012, 04:43:56 PM
Guys, I'm just spitballing here, but is it possible that Bubbles is confused about the difference between recruit spots and assistant coach spots and thought he was interviewing Josh Gray for the assistant coach spot and that's what's led to the confusion as to whether or not Gray could come to K-State AS WELL AS the lack of adding any more assistant coaches?

I mean, seems kinda out there, but once you've eliminated the impossible (Weber can't recruit or hire assistants, since we're assured he can do both fine by the Weberites), whatever remains, however improbable, ya know?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 24, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
Being reported on TOS that Brad Korn of SIU, most likely to KSU.,...

Wasn't it as a video guy?

I got that in an email.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
It should be noted that when we "took a chance" on Figger we had the best bag man in college basketball already on staff and the number 1 recruit in the country on the way.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2012, 04:47:15 PM
I am just assuming that oscar's inabilities in hiring and returning calls lately is due to the red tape involved with the bureaucracy that is the Spradling family.  oscar sees what has happened to coaches in the past and recognizes that 2 more years of Sprads is plenty of time for the Spradlings to do what they are best at.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 05:19:49 PM

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.


I'm not anti-Frank or pro-oscar.  I'm just a glass half full guy on a glass half empty board. 

I mean, if you go back and read my posts, I think I've been pretty consistent that I wish Frank was still our coach.  But, he's not.  There were things I hated about Frank.  no question.  but there were a lot of positives as well.  I wouldn't drive up to every home game if I hated the program.  The only question I see as relevant is whether Frank's "success" can be replicated by a coach like oscar Weber.  The answer to that question is Yes.  Again, I'm a glass half full guy.  I believe that Weber can attain 20 win seasons, 3rd-5th place finishes at KSU, and consistent NCAA tourneys.   

Most on this board probably hope that I'm wrong.  It is what it is. 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 06:34:51 PM
  I believe that Weber can attain 20 win seasons, 3rd-5th place finishes at KSU, and consistent NCAA tourneys.

Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 24, 2012, 06:52:47 PM
"spit game" :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 06:56:17 PM

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.


I'm not anti-Frank or pro-oscar.  I'm just a glass half full guy on a glass half empty board. 

I mean, if you go back and read my posts, I think I've been pretty consistent that I wish Frank was still our coach.  But, he's not.  There were things I hated about Frank.  no question.  but there were a lot of positives as well.  I wouldn't drive up to every home game if I hated the program.  The only question I see as relevant is whether Frank's "success" can be replicated by a coach like oscar Weber.  The answer to that question is Yes.  Again, I'm a glass half full guy.  I believe that Weber can attain 20 win seasons, 3rd-5th place finishes at KSU, and consistent NCAA tourneys.   

Most on this board probably hope that I'm wrong.  It is what it is.

I have 0 doubt that you love K-State basketball, that isn't the issue, but to call yourself an optimist on a board of pessimists is laughable.  I don't need to link the scores of posts you've had the last basketball season complaining about everything.  Every single basketball debate you had before oscar Weber was hired you argued the negative.  So far your stance on the Weber era is the polar opposite of how you posted during the Frank Martin era.  We were all the optimists, where do you think Frankite came from?  You were not a Frankite, but you are certainly a Weberite.  The only explaination of your shift it that you're excited to have the Frank Martin era behind us, because there have been absolutely 0 signs of positive momentum since he arrived, none.  Also painting yourself as some rogue positive po is rough ridin' absurd.  Most of the board is like me, we want oscar to succeed because we love K-State hoops, but continuing to ignore everything that has happened to this point and keep saying "wait and see" is absurd.  I was on the wrong side of the Jim Wooldridge and Ron Prince debates, but at least in those two cases there was early positive momentum.  Everything about Weber's program to this point has been awful but you have flipped your once lofty standards.

You refused to give frank a pass for anything but to this point you're willing to ignore oscar's:

Shitty recent record with good recruits
The fact that he lost the recruiter to an awful basketball mid major
He couldn't attract any assistant coach that had any options
Recruited a mid major player at a position we're stacked at while ignoring a top 150 recruit at a position of need
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 24, 2012, 06:56:46 PM

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.


I'm not anti-Frank or pro-oscar.  I'm just a glass half full guy on a glass half empty board. 

I mean, if you go back and read my posts, I think I've been pretty consistent that I wish Frank was still our coach.  But, he's not.  There were things I hated about Frank.  no question.  but there were a lot of positives as well.  I wouldn't drive up to every home game if I hated the program.  The only question I see as relevant is whether Frank's "success" can be replicated by a coach like oscar Weber.  The answer to that question is Yes.  Again, I'm a glass half full guy.  I believe that Weber can attain 20 win seasons, 3rd-5th place finishes at KSU, and consistent NCAA tourneys.   

Most on this board probably hope that I'm wrong.  It is what it is. 
well there's your problem.   I don't hope you're wrong, I think you are wrong.   just like you didn't hope frank would drive our program into a ditch you thought he would.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 06:57:39 PM
  I believe that Weber can attain 20 win seasons, 3rd-5th place finishes at KSU, and consistent NCAA tourneys.

Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

That's a fantastic question.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 24, 2012, 07:07:58 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

You are seriously undervaluing Frank as a coach. oscar Weber is a huge downgrade.

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.

No I didn't hate Frank, I just chose to live in reality.   I don't hate Weber,  but I am not that thrilled with what's going on, and will fire with both barrels when the appropriate time comes.   Less than 1 month of the guy being on campus is not the appropriate time.   Had Frank walked out the door leaving behind a conference championship banner and a Final Four banner, I'd probably be more on the extremely butthurt side, like most people on here.   But he didn't, he was good coach, a mediocre recruiter, who went to the NCAA tourney regularly, and had 1 nice NCAA tourney run.   Something that's happened during the tenure of five other K-State coaches (and then some in several cases . . . LOL again at Frank's "coaching graveyard" comments).   I don't think its tuckish or respectish at all to give a guy who has a Final Four ring, and a conference championship ring from a BCS conference (of which Frank Martin has NEITHER) the benefit of the doubt just 3.5 weeks into his tenure at K-State.   Sometimes things just don't work out at a place but the guy didn't compile a 313-155 record on the D1 level by being a complete idiot. 

Everybody is bitching and moaning about the staff, and about the recruiting, so once again lets review Frank Martin's recruiting once Bob Huggins walked out that door:

Ron Anderson (Franked)
Andre Gilbert (Franked)
Jamar Samuels  :thumbsup:
Buchi Awaji  :lol:
Abdul Herrera  :lol:  (Franked)
Jo  :thumbsup:
Tay Irving  :blank:
Wally Judge  :thumbsup: then (Franked)
McGruber  :thumbsup:
Nick Russell (Franked)
Freddy Asprilla  :lol: (Franked)
Juevol Myles  :lol: (Franked)
Shane Southwell  :blank:
Will Spradling  :blank:
Nino Williams  :blank:
Robert Upshaw aka African American Jason Bennett
Laimonas Chatkevicius  :lol:

Oh come on, you know, I know, hell even Bob Dole knows Freddy A was a FP
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 07:25:32 PM
Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
Anyone  that cares about winning the conference while seff is at ku is a ducking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 07:55:36 PM
Anyone  that cares about winning the conference while seff is at ku is a ducking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Come on. You and I both know that if Frank sits Angel in the second half of the first Baylor game, it's net-cutting city in March.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 24, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Rest easy oscar Weber . . . 5th place is good enough!!

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
Rest easy oscar Weber . . . 5th place is good enough!!



Tourney every year if the schedule is right
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2012, 08:54:08 PM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 24, 2012, 09:06:22 PM
Can someone point me in the direction of the Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  I must have taken a wrong turn at the Korn field. 

TIA

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 24, 2012, 09:22:33 PM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!
If Angel actually stays I expect us to compete, Quincy Miller's departure can only help. 

By compete I mean a conference regular season similar to Mu's past season.  This may be unrealistic but our talent/experience combo is second only to KU and oscar did show the ability to stay out the way of a talented and experienced team.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 24, 2012, 09:28:11 PM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!
If Angel actually stays I expect us to compete, Quincy Miller's departure can only help. 

By compete I mean a conference regular season similar to Mu's past season.  This may be unrealistic but our talent/experience combo is second only to KU and oscar did show the ability to stay out the way of a talented and experienced team.

Sorry to break it to ya, we don't have the kind of players Self left behind
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 24, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.

 :sdeek:

I seriously had no idea you were such an Internet hardass. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 24, 2012, 09:45:50 PM

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.


If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

You are seriously undervaluing Frank as a coach. oscar Weber is a huge downgrade.

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.

No I didn't hate Frank, I just chose to live in reality.   I don't hate Weber,  but I am not that thrilled with what's going on, and will fire with both barrels when the appropriate time comes.   Less than 1 month of the guy being on campus is not the appropriate time.   Had Frank walked out the door leaving behind a conference championship banner and a Final Four banner, I'd probably be more on the extremely butthurt side, like most people on here.   But he didn't, he was good coach, a mediocre recruiter, who went to the NCAA tourney regularly, and had 1 nice NCAA tourney run.   Something that's happened during the tenure of five other K-State coaches (and then some in several cases . . . LOL again at Frank's "coaching graveyard" comments).   I don't think its tuckish or respectish at all to give a guy who has a Final Four ring, and a conference championship ring from a BCS conference (of which Frank Martin has NEITHER) the benefit of the doubt just 3.5 weeks into his tenure at K-State.   Sometimes things just don't work out at a place but the guy didn't compile a 313-155 record on the D1 level by being a complete idiot. 

Everybody is bitching and moaning about the staff, and about the recruiting, so once again lets review Frank Martin's recruiting once Bob Huggins walked out that door:

Ron Anderson (Franked)
Andre Gilbert (Franked)
Jamar Samuels  :thumbsup:
Buchi Awaji  :lol:
Abdul Herrera  :lol:  (Franked)
Jo  :thumbsup:
Tay Irving  :blank:
Wally Judge  :thumbsup: then (Franked)
McGruber  :thumbsup:
Nick Russell (Franked)
Freddy Asprilla  :lol: (Franked)
Juevol Myles  :lol: (Franked)
Shane Southwell  :blank:
Will Spradling  :blank:
Nino Williams  :blank:
Robert Upshaw aka African American Jason Bennett
Laimonas Chatkevicius  :lol:

Dax - As it related to Jason Bennett, it should be "Aferican"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 24, 2012, 11:33:25 PM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2012, 12:12:15 AM
Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.

 :sdeek:

I seriously had no idea you were such an Internet hardass.

That response had absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.  "internet hardass?"  I completely missed where I threatened you, postured, PIed or anything else that someone would associate with being an "internet hardass."

That was a shitty attempt at diverting the topic.  Since you've tapped on my posts will you answer the last two questions that Rusty has posed, or is questioning you at all considered internet badassness?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 12:25:32 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

wow. OK.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 07:10:48 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 07:20:42 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

I'm not going to call my shot, but I don't think its impossible to believe either.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 07:27:58 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?





New coaches struggle.  I'm preparing myself for a trainwreck season with the icecream man as the conductor.

Sprads will probably play really hard though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 25, 2012, 07:36:02 AM
lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

to be fair, people would have bitched about frank's assistants had they been butthurt at the time.

ultimately, though, everyone shot their wad early and butthurt over weber's assisstants was tempered by butthurt over weber not hiring assistants fast enough.  it's an unfortunate situation.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 07:46:06 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

 A simple "no" would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 07:48:19 AM
Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

I'm not going to call my shot, but I don't think its impossible to believe either.

#notimpossibletobelieve
#nosotroscreemos
#ourtime
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one. 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one.

Frank never contended for a conference title.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 07:54:15 AM
Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one.

Frank never contended for a conference title.

ok, then I don't think oscar will either
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 07:55:53 AM
also, lol at Frank's conference finishes and our treatment of him.  OMG we were a bunch of dumbfucks.   :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 08:02:03 AM
#notimpossibletobelieve
#nosotroscreemos
#ourtime

I also think oscar has enough of a track record, unlike the last 25 years of Royals baseball. Please don't put examples in my post that I did not mean.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 08:02:55 AM
What is "contend"?   In the hunt going down the stretch, within a certain number of games?  What?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 08:05:24 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 08:05:36 AM
contend means that you are within a game or two of a conference title heading in to the last 2 weeks of the reg season.

If you are 3 games out with 4 games left you aren't contending.  If you get swept by the leader, you aren't contending.

Frank Never contended fwiw.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 08:09:43 AM
It's going to take less than 4 losses to win the big 12 most years.  If you have 3 losses heading into Webruary you aren't contending.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:10:41 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

not sure why you said yeah and then disagreed with me.  weird bbs strat.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 08:11:57 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

not sure why you said yeah and then disagreed with me.  weird bbs strat.

sarcastic yeah to make you look like a dumbass :face:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 25, 2012, 08:13:08 AM
the elite 8 run and other tournament wins had a lot to do with it too. if that elite 8 team would've lost in the first round then people would've had a different overall opinion imo. that was pretty significant. i mean frank took over a program that hadn't been to the tournament in like fifteen years and almost got them to a final four almost immediately.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:13:59 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

not sure why you said yeah and then disagreed with me.  weird bbs strat.

sarcastic yeah to make you look like a dumbass :face:

oh man, sick burn bro.

so anyway, you're wrong.  but a++ sarcasm!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 08:15:27 AM
except I'm not.  Frank had a ridiculous amount of high level wins.  they were fun as crap.  and a ton of them were on the road making them even more ridiculous.  then nobody cared as much when we get swept by the CUs and OUs of the world. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:17:56 AM
k

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 08:19:31 AM
It's a loaded question because bill self owns first place in this conference. 

Fwiw, I would bet weber would win a 5th conference title before Frank ever wins one at all...though I don't think either is very likely.

Also would bet weber would have an overall losing record before Frank would...so there's that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 08:22:11 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

FWIW, oscar was 10-30 against Top 10 kenpom teams over his career at Illinois. 6 of those wins came in the last 4 years. Frank was 9-15 against kenpom Top 10.

oscar wasn't quite as good with these types of wins or winning on the road (won a third of the time on the road), but he also wasn't horrible at either.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 08:22:49 AM
except I'm not.  Frank had a ridiculous amount of high level wins.  they were fun as crap.  and a ton of them were on the road making them even more ridiculous.  then nobody cared as much when we get swept by the CUs and OUs of the world.

If you believed the "playing to our seed" talking point, than all Frankites should have been devastated by the choke job of 3 (really 4) home conference games.   If things held true to form, those choke jobs cost K-State, and Frankites everywhere a second NCAA weekend and at least one more week with Frank.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:25:44 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 25, 2012, 08:26:50 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

FWIW, oscar was 10-30 against Top 10 kenpom teams over his career at Illinois. 6 of those wins came in the last 4 years. Frank was 9-15 against kenpom Top 10.

oscar wasn't quite as good with these types of wins or winning on the road (won a third of the time on the road), but he also wasn't horrible at either.

10-30 is horrible compared to 9-15, fwiw.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 08:26:58 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber

good descripto
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 08:27:46 AM
blinded by slightly above mediocre results after years of shitty results

people liked frank more than they liked his basketball

yeah, and the big wins had a lot to do with it.  trading bad losses for great wins is great. 

FWIW, oscar was 10-30 against Top 10 kenpom teams over his career at Illinois. 6 of those wins came in the last 4 years. Frank was 9-15 against kenpom Top 10.

oscar wasn't quite as good with these types of wins or winning on the road (won a third of the time on the road), but he also wasn't horrible at either.

10-30 is horrible compared to 9-15, fwiw.

yeah, was kind of surprised stats_FAN rolled that out there in the way he did
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 08:29:47 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber

good descripto

nice tap out, captain butthurt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
yeah, was kind of surprised stats_FAN rolled that out there in the way he did

I didn't put it out there as a defense, the numbers are what they are. Frank's records against Top 10s (38%) and on the road (50%) are records that should have competed more often for conference titles honestly.

I was implying that oscar's records (25% Top 10s, 33% road) aren't terrible and can get teams to consistent NCAAs as long as you win at home and win most "should win" games.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 25, 2012, 08:50:59 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.


me disliking oscar weber and the hiring of him has zero to do with frank. if travis ford would've left to take the south carolina job instead of frank and oklahoma state would've hired weber, i would've thought it was a trash hire just as much and it wouldn't have been because i was blinded by travis ford love. also, my liking of frank didn't cause oscar weber to finish ten games under .500 in conference over the past five years.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.


me disliking oscar weber and the hiring of him has zero to do with frank. if travis ford would've left to take the south carolina job instead of frank and oklahoma state would've hired weber, i would've thought it was a trash hire just as much and it wouldn't have been because i was blinded by travis ford love and my liking of frank didn't cause oscar weber to finish ten games under .500 in conference over the past five years.



u mad bro?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 09:02:40 AM
yeah, was kind of surprised stats_FAN rolled that out there in the way he did

I didn't put it out there as a defense, the numbers are what they are. Frank's records against Top 10s (38%) and on the road (50%) are records that should have competed more often for conference titles honestly.

I was implying that oscar's records (25% Top 10s, 33% road) aren't terrible and can get teams to consistent NCAAs as long as you win at home and win most "should win" games.

illinois (sp?) restricted oscar and held him back from being able to show what he can do.  oscar isn't a b10 coach, imagine if frank had to coach against bo ryan every year.  much different results.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 25, 2012, 09:09:52 AM
Oh, man, I bet people called him Candy Korn when he was younger.

People don't talk that sh@t now though, since he landed that hot piece of Mrs. Korn.  That's a rough ridin' handsome woman.

Why would that keep people from talking crap, though? Is her name Candy or something? I can see how that would get confusing.

Respect.  People are all like "Candy Korn!" and he's all "Oh yeah, well look at my wife. She's attractive." and then people are like "Served." or "Nice." or maybe "Word."  It's complicated. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 25, 2012, 09:14:47 AM
Oh, man, I bet people called him Candy Korn when he was younger.

People don't talk that sh@t now though, since he landed that hot piece of Mrs. Korn.  That's a rough ridin' handsome woman.

Why would that keep people from talking crap, though? Is her name Candy or something? I can see how that would get confusing.

Respect.  People are all like "Candy Korn!" and he's all "Oh yeah, well look at my wife. She's attractive." and then people are like "Served." or "Nice." or maybe "Word."  It's complicated.

Speaking of complicated, any word on hiring assistant coaches?  How did the ABIII interview go?  Has it been confirmed that Korn is the Video intern?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 25, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.


me disliking oscar weber and the hiring of him has zero to do with frank. if travis ford would've left to take the south carolina job instead of frank and oklahoma state would've hired weber, i would've thought it was a trash hire just as much and it wouldn't have been because i was blinded by travis ford love and my liking of frank didn't cause oscar weber to finish ten games under .500 in conference over the past five years.



u mad bro?

not mad. kind of annoying that i have to keep correcting your factually incorrect statements though. time will tell in the end and i guess we'll see if oscar weber can actually win a conference title at kstate like you think he can. i don't think he can but you do so i guess we'll just have to wait and see is what i'm saying.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 25, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.

If you think it is reasonable to expect Weber's results to even be in the vicinity of Frank's time here after 5 years, you are blindly optimistic.  What leads you to believe that is going to happen?  A discussion of whether or not Weber is going to contend for a Big 12 title and the definition of "contend" is rough ridin' absurd.  The discussion should be whether Weber will be finishing in the top HALF of the conference in years 3+.  You guys are like some eff buying a lottery ticket and then sitting in the office all week talking about the merits of living in the Caribbean vs. the South Pacific.  You should be worried about the fact that your wife is rough ridin' the UPS man and they are about to clean out your accounts, burn down your house, and disappear.  eff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 25, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Frank had some bad losses yes, but we've always lost those types of games in the past, mostly because we sucked. The good wins were a real bonus.
Also, I didn't mind the bad losses because the team was usually playing well come the tournament, so I gave frank the benefit of the doubt.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 09:54:37 AM
the people who are butthurt about other people being butthurt about oscar weber being our coach need to quit bringing up frank martin.  WGAF about Frank Martin.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 09:55:03 AM
I think AB III and Shingler would make me content.  Not really happy, but not angry.

(Getting back to the point of this thread.)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
Shingler

LOL
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 25, 2012, 09:57:13 AM
Also, although I do not believe the glass to be half full, I too hope we win, belvis

:cheers:

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 10:01:41 AM
Shingler

LOL

I mean, do you know what he was doing before KSU, why he was brought into KSU, what he did after he left KSU and what he did after that?  I mean, maybe John Currie has no rough ridin' clue and he would agree to bring him in but I'm guessing he knows. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 25, 2012, 10:04:40 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.


me disliking oscar weber and the hiring of him has zero to do with frank. if travis ford would've left to take the south carolina job instead of frank and oklahoma state would've hired weber, i would've thought it was a trash hire just as much and it wouldn't have been because i was blinded by travis ford love and my liking of frank didn't cause oscar weber to finish ten games under .500 in conference over the past five years.



u mad bro?

can't speak for Rick but yeah i'm MAD
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Shingler

LOL

I mean, do you know what he was doing before KSU, why he was brought into KSU, what he did after he left KSU and what he did after that?  I mean, maybe John Currie has no rough ridin' clue and he would agree to bring him in but I'm guessing he knows.

I'm speaking in hypotheticals, and his name has been thrown out there.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2012, 10:09:29 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.

If you think it is reasonable to expect Weber's results to even be in the vicinity of Frank's time here after 5 years, you are blindly optimistic.  What leads you to believe that is going to happen?  A discussion of whether or not Weber is going to contend for a Big 12 title and the definition of "contend" is rough ridin' absurd.  The discussion should be whether Weber will be finishing in the top HALF of the conference in years 3+.  You guys are like some eff buying a lottery ticket and then sitting in the office all week talking about the merits of living in the Caribbean vs. the South Pacific.  You should be worried about the fact that your wife is rough ridin' the UPS man and they are about to clean out your accounts, burn down your house, and disappear.  eff.

/rickdaris post /BMC post
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 25, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
Shingler

LOL

I mean, do you know what he was doing before KSU, why he was brought into KSU, what he did after he left KSU and what he did after that?  I mean, maybe John Currie has no rough ridin' clue and he would agree to bring him in but I'm guessing he knows.

I'm speaking in hypotheticals, and his name has been thrown out there.

Some people throw names, others throw batteries.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 25, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
I think AB III and Shingler would make me content.  Not really happy, but not angry.

(Getting back to the point of this thread.)

I think I'm done lowering the bar for oscar at this point.  Contentment on this staff for me went out the window after he airballed on both Howard and Forrest to effing SMU and LSU.




Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Shingler

LOL

I mean, do you know what he was doing before KSU, why he was brought into KSU, what he did after he left KSU and what he did after that?  I mean, maybe John Currie has no rough ridin' clue and he would agree to bring him in but I'm guessing he knows.

I'm speaking in hypotheticals, and his name has been thrown out there.

He threw his own name out there. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
Shingler

LOL

I mean, do you know what he was doing before KSU, why he was brought into KSU, what he did after he left KSU and what he did after that?  I mean, maybe John Currie has no rough ridin' clue and he would agree to bring him in but I'm guessing he knows.

I'm speaking in hypotheticals, and his name has been thrown out there.

He threw his own name out there.

I didn't catch that.

(sigh)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 10:19:27 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 10:21:46 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 25, 2012, 10:23:37 AM

time will tell in the end and i guess we'll see if oscar weber can actually win a conference title at kstate like you think he can. i don't think he can but you do so i guess we'll just have to wait and see is what i'm saying.


Honest question - with Frank's '12-'13 team, which coach has a better chance of contending for a title?  Frank or oscar? 

I believe the answer is oscar. 

I just don't think Frank's coaching style of break em down and build em up every January is conducive to Conference Titles.  Proof is in the pudding.  Even his best two teams ('09-'10, '10-'11) weren't remotely close to contending. The argument can certainly be made that it helped us in March, however.  Again, proof is in the pudding.  Frank's NCAA record is strong.  MIR, please note this compliment for the record.  I want your cyberstalking history to be as accurate as possible for future reference. 

I don't know if Weber'll be able to recruit the right type of players or be as consistent in the NCAAs.   

   

Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 10:24:41 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?

Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 10:30:33 AM
it doesn't matter how he does it = frank

it doesn't matter because he's not frank = weber


the butthurts are so lost right now.

If you think it is reasonable to expect Weber's results to even be in the vicinity of Frank's time here after 5 years, you are blindly optimistic.  What leads you to believe that is going to happen?  A discussion of whether or not Weber is going to contend for a Big 12 title and the definition of "contend" is rough ridin' absurd.  The discussion should be whether Weber will be finishing in the top HALF of the conference in years 3+.  You guys are like some eff buying a lottery ticket and then sitting in the office all week talking about the merits of living in the Caribbean vs. the South Pacific.  You should be worried about the fact that your wife is rough ridin' the UPS man and they are about to clean out your accounts, burn down your house, and disappear.  eff.


why would i worry about any of those things?  you're a weird poster, McCock. 


Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 10:30:44 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?

Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.


2 assistant coaches already left, that's one reason why he got canned . . . and nice that you pointed out that fact to #teambutthurt Pan. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 10:37:57 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?

Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.

His recruiting wasn't good relative to the ACC, either.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 10:38:06 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 10:42:05 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?






Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.

His recruiting wasn't good relative to the ACC, either.


They got commits from 4 Top 100 guys in the last 2 recruiting classes.   Once you get past UNC and Duke that's actually some really good recruiting for the ACC, which right now, isn't that good of a basketball conference.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 10:43:14 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

Because I don't know. I would say the same thing had we hired Gottlieb, kept Brad, etc.

But here are my best guesses:

I think its most likely his overall first 5 years record will be slightly worse in the league.

I think K-State be in postseason every year.

I think K-State have at least 3 NCAA appearances.

I think at least 3 upper half league finishes.

If we don't at least do that, I'll be all for getting rid of him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 10:43:24 AM

time will tell in the end and i guess we'll see if oscar weber can actually win a conference title at kstate like you think he can. i don't think he can but you do so i guess we'll just have to wait and see is what i'm saying.


Honest question - with Frank's '12-'13 team, which coach has a better chance of contending for a title?  Frank or oscar? 





dnr the rest forrest gump.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

It will be close.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?






Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.

His recruiting wasn't good relative to the ACC, either.


They got commits from 4 Top 100 guys in the last 2 recruiting classes.   Once you get past UNC and Duke that's actually some really good recruiting for the ACC, which right now, isn't that good of a basketball conference.

Getting 4 star players (plural) to Blacksburg is pretty good recruiting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 10:46:07 AM

time will tell in the end and i guess we'll see if oscar weber can actually win a conference title at kstate like you think he can. i don't think he can but you do so i guess we'll just have to wait and see is what i'm saying.


Honest question - with Frank's '12-'13 team, which coach has a better chance of contending for a title?  Frank or oscar? 





dnr the rest forrest gump.

Good question . . . and the first question you'd have to ask yourself once the Franking's ended, and then Frank was out there picking up crumbs on the JuCo circuit is . . . how many times Frank tells Stan "we're young".

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2012, 10:47:51 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

Because I don't know. I would say the same thing had we hired Gottlieb, kept Brad, etc.

But here are my best guesses:

I think its most likely his overall first 5 years record will be slightly worse in the league.

I think K-State be in postseason every year.

I think K-State have at least 3 NCAA appearances.

I think at least 3 upper half league finishes.

If we don't at least do that, I'll be all for getting rid of him.

I think you should revise to clarify "postseason".  I mean, if we go NIT'ing or CBI'ing every yr for the next 5, w/ no NCAA'ing, and do the rest of what you listed, I would be pissed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 10:48:45 AM
PISSED.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 10:49:09 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

I'm not sure who you are baiting with this.  Has anyone claimed this was an obvious upgrade?  I will say I wouldn't be shocked if this is the case.  I'm not expecting it though. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 10:49:20 AM
I think you should revise to clarify "postseason".  I mean, if we go NIT'ing or CBI'ing every yr for the next 5, w/ no NCAA'ing, and do the rest of what you listed, I would be pissed.

I did, that's why I said at least 3 NCAAs. If he has no NCAAs in the first 3 years he should be fired, let alone 5.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 10:50:14 AM
I think you should revise to clarify "postseason".  I mean, if we go NIT'ing or CBI'ing every yr for the next 5, w/ no NCAA'ing, and do the rest of what you listed, I would be pissed.

I did, that's why I said at least 3 NCAAs. If he has no NCAAs in the first 3 years he should be fired, let alone 5.

I'd lower 3 to 2. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
My reading comprehension is lacking today.

Sorry to all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 25, 2012, 10:53:18 AM
We'll give him the Wooly treatment.  Just needs to make it to the NIT every once in a while and he'll be good.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 10:57:02 AM
Anybody on Greenburg's staff worth looking at?

Anybody with high major experience that hasn't been fired worth looking at?






Recruiting wasn't what got Greenburg fired.

His recruiting wasn't good relative to the ACC, either.


They got commits from 4 Top 100 guys in the last 2 recruiting classes.   Once you get past UNC and Duke that's actually some really good recruiting for the ACC, which right now, isn't that good of a basketball conference.

Getting 4 star players (plural) to Blacksburg is pretty good recruiting.

Not really.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 10:57:12 AM
I think you should revise to clarify "postseason".  I mean, if we go NIT'ing or CBI'ing every yr for the next 5, w/ no NCAA'ing, and do the rest of what you listed, I would be pissed.

I did, that's why I said at least 3 NCAAs. If he has no NCAAs in the first 3 years he should be fired, let alone 5.

I'd lower 3 to 2. 

Probably, but I'm being realistic. He will feel plenty of pressure next year because of the talent he inherited, and if he only managed an NIT he would feel heat. But the admin would give him another year or two most likely. Then in year 2 if it tanked and he went 10-20, then you have to make a change. But if he's competitive and fields an NIT team again in year 2, then he'll get the third year. Granted, none of us want that to happen and (I hope) the majority of fans would be ticked, but he'd certainly get 3 years under that scenario IMO.

Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
Getting 4 star players (plural) to Blacksburg is pretty good recruiting.

Not really.

if you can't get goEMAW to agree with you...you won't get mike decoursey.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:00:07 AM
Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

The fans and admin have convinced themselves that a coach that SMU interviewed and turned down was a decent hire so I see no reason why the gradual downward slide of expectations will stop any time soon.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Getting 4 star players (plural) to Blacksburg is pretty good recruiting.

Not really.

if you can't get goEMAW to agree with you...you won't get mike decoursey.

panj is like a mini Mike DeCoursey
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 25, 2012, 11:02:33 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

I think it will be close.  I think Weber's ceiling is higher than Frank's.  I also think his floor is lower than Frank's.  Frank had a unique style that worked at K-State, but it was pretty clear that it had limitations.  Same is true with Mike Anderson teams.  We outworked teams.  On the upside, Frank's style lent itself to being competitive in most games and road games even when shooting 35%.  Also, with "down" teams sans Pullen, Kelly, Clemente, we were still competitive.  On the downside, we were pretty limited offensively and it seems like good coaches schemed the crap out of us.     

With Weber, I'm not sure what we'll get.  He won with Southern Illinois players.  He won with Self's players.  He won with his own players.  He lost with his own players.  He's been on both ends of the spectrum.  So, it's possible that he'll fail to live up to Martin in every statistical category.  It's possible that he could exceed Martin.  I think he'll probably be somewhere in the middle.       
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Why not say you believe oscar can have a better conference winning percentage, better average conference finish, better NCAA tournament record, etc.?

no one has answered this question. Does anyone think oscar will leave with a better conference winning percentage, average conference finish, or do better in the NCAA tournament than Frank did?

I think it will be close.  I think Weber's ceiling is higher than Frank's.  I also think his floor is lower than Frank's.  Frank had a unique style that worked at K-State, but it was pretty clear that it had limitations.  Same is true with Mike Anderson teams.  We outworked teams.  On the upside, Frank's style lent itself to being competitive in most games and road games even when shooting 35%.  Also, with "down" teams sans Pullen, Kelly, Clemente, we were still competitive.  On the downside, we were pretty limited offensively and it seems like good coaches schemed the crap out of us.     

With Weber, I'm not sure what we'll get.  He won with Southern Illinois players.  He won with Self's players.  He won with his own players.  He lost with his own players.  He's been on both ends of the spectrum.  So, it's possible that he'll fail to live up to Martin in every statistical category.  It's possible that he could exceed Martin.  I think he'll probably be somewhere in the middle.       

I'll mark you down for worse, worse, and better.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

The fans and admin have convinced themselves that a coach that SMU interviewed and turned down was a decent hire so I see no reason why the gradual downward slide of expectations will stop any time soon.

Link?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

The fans and admin have convinced themselves that a coach that SMU interviewed and turned down was a decent hire so I see no reason why the gradual downward slide of expectations will stop any time soon.

Link?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/03/source-smu-interviews-oscar-weber.html

so maybe I stretched the truth a bit. They just waited until 18 days after firing Doherty to interview oscar. I'm sure he was their first choice, though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 25, 2012, 11:24:06 AM

I'll mark you down for worse, worse, and better.


Put me down for "wait and see."  If you need something more definitive, put me down for "about the same." 

If Weber's first 3 years are as follows:  '12-'13: Conference Title + Sweet 16, '13-'14 NIT, '14-'15 NIT is he worse, better, or about the same as Martin, and why?     
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

The fans and admin have convinced themselves that a coach that SMU interviewed and turned down was a decent hire so I see no reason why the gradual downward slide of expectations will stop any time soon.

Link?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/03/source-smu-interviews-oscar-weber.html

so maybe I stretched the truth a bit. They just waited until 18 days after firing Doherty to interview oscar. I'm sure he was their first choice, though.

To your "decent hire" point; I'd say less than 10% of K-State fans thought he was a decent hire when they heard about it. But a majority have since said they're willing to give him a chance. I don't see why that equates with going back to mediocre expectations. I mean the talk of burning things down and firing Currie was nice, but it was never realistic. I'm on record that if things go south quickly I'll be all for making a change quickly, I think most of our fanbase will be the same. I think if Currie is still here he'll be the same, because if the resume talking point is remotely accurate, he won't want to sit on below average success at K-State with a coach he hired.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

The fans and admin have convinced themselves that a coach that SMU interviewed and turned down was a decent hire so I see no reason why the gradual downward slide of expectations will stop any time soon.

Link?

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/03/source-smu-interviews-oscar-weber.html

so maybe I stretched the truth a bit. They just waited until 18 days after firing Doherty to interview oscar. I'm sure he was their first choice, though.

i'd seen it brought up multiple times, just making sure i didn't miss anything. Their whole hiring process has been a crap show.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:29:32 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:

Absolutely. He might not have gone better than Elite Eight, but I think everything else would have improved. I expect Weber to be worse in every category I listed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
Also, SMU's first choice was (LOL) Buzz Williams. Weber was probably #2 I'm guessing and they would've loved to have him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 25, 2012, 11:31:38 AM

To your "decent hire" point; I'd say less than 10% of K-State fans thought he was a decent hire when they heard about it. But a majority have since said they're willing to give him a chance. I don't see why that equates with going back to mediocre expectations. I mean the talk of burning things down and firing Currie was nice, but it was never realistic. I'm on record that if things go south quickly I'll be all for making a change quickly, I think most of our fanbase will be the same. I think if Currie is still here he'll be the same, because if the resume talking point is remotely accurate, he won't want to sit on below average success at K-State with a coach he hired.


+1. 

my standard is NCAA 2/3 and top 4/5 in conference.  If Weber can't pull this off in the first 3 years, he should be gone and Currie too. 

Frank leaving sucked.  But, moving forward, I'm willing to wait and see if Weber can pull off the above criteria. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
To your "decent hire" point; I'd say less than 10% of K-State fans thought he was a decent hire when they heard about it. But a majority have since said they're willing to give him a chance. I don't see why that equates with going back to mediocre expectations.

It's a symptom that points to lowered expectations syndrome.

I'm on record that if things go south quickly I'll be all for making a change quickly, I think most of our fanbase will be the same. I think if Currie is still here he'll be the same, because if the resume talking point is remotely accurate, he won't want to sit on below average success at K-State with a coach he hired.

The thing is, I have little doubt that things won't go south quickly. It will be nice and gradual.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 25, 2012, 11:37:38 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:

Yes, he would of topped it. 

I think Frank was set up to have a real nice run with Angel, 12-13 would have been similar to 09-10, a small step back with 13-14 and another great run with Angel as a senior in 14-15.  Last two are tougher to project, but I think between his So FL connections still feeding him players and his national image only increasing over that time he would at least put together tournament teams when Angel was gone.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 25, 2012, 11:37:54 AM
I think Weber sucks and we should fire him today for the sole reason that I think he sucks and will continue to suck.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 25, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
if we have another run like wooly's, the football team is kicking major ass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
if we have another run like wooly's, the football team is kicking major ass.

The FB team is def the big winner here. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:

Absolutely. He might not have gone better than Elite Eight, but I think everything else would have improved. I expect Weber to be worse in every category I listed.

I don't know.  He never had a team that didn't feature a 'te recruit as its best player.  I don't think he would been better, though, again, wouldn't have shocked me. 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:

Absolutely. He might not have gone better than Elite Eight, but I think everything else would have improved. I expect Weber to be worse in every category I listed.

I don't know.  He never had a team that didn't feature a 'te recruit as its best player.  I don't think he would been better, though, again, wouldn't have shocked me.

Angel was well on his way to being a fine "best player." I also think the staff made several recruiting mistakes in the 08, 09, and 10 classes that didn't seem to pop up in the 11 and 12 classes. He also had a successful track record built up that he obviously lacked while recruiting those early classes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 11:49:45 AM
Getting 4 star players (plural) to Blacksburg is pretty good recruiting.

Not really.

if you can't get goEMAW to agree with you...you won't get mike decoursey.

panj is like a mini Mike DeCoursey

I'd like to think that my expectations for our program (and other programs) are somewhat in line with reality.

That's not always the case, but I think it's in the ball park.

For a program with eight NCAA tournament appearances in their history, with only one S16 and one E8 run (both back in the 60's), while recruiting to a rural football school in Southwest Virginia (who could care less about basketball), to get four Top 100 players in the past two years is pretty good.

But, hey, I'm crazy for thinking that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 25, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
Does anyone think Frank would've topped himself in those three categories over a second five years? :dunno:

Absolutely. He might not have gone better than Elite Eight, but I think everything else would have improved. I expect Weber to be worse in every category I listed.

I don't know.  He never had a team that didn't feature a 'te recruit as its best player.  I don't think he would been better, though, again, wouldn't have shocked me.

I don't know if Frank would have gotten "better".  I think where he was is where he was ultimately going to stay given how he ran his program.  We had reached stasis.

Perpetually young teams, constantly shifting recruiting spots and AAU connections because of burnt bridges, and the lack of urgency in winning regular season games/titles (and pushing the focus to March) means that we'd probably just hover where we were.  Which, obviously, wasn't bad.  But if you wanted more, I don't think Frank was going to turn some corner and really ramp up.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 12:46:02 PM
I think you should revise to clarify "postseason".  I mean, if we go NIT'ing or CBI'ing every yr for the next 5, w/ no NCAA'ing, and do the rest of what you listed, I would be pissed.

I did, that's why I said at least 3 NCAAs. If he has no NCAAs in the first 3 years he should be fired, let alone 5.

I'd lower 3 to 2. 

Probably, but I'm being realistic. He will feel plenty of pressure next year because of the talent he inherited, and if he only managed an NIT he would feel heat. But the admin would give him another year or two most likely. Then in year 2 if it tanked and he went 10-20, then you have to make a change. But if he's competitive and fields an NIT team again in year 2, then he'll get the third year. Granted, none of us want that to happen and (I hope) the majority of fans would be ticked, but he'd certainly get 3 years under that scenario IMO.

Of course none of us want to go down that path because that is leading to mediocre basketball, but I trust that the fans and admin wouldn't let it go on more than 3 years. I think we've come far enough to this point that this is expected, but as long as Currie stays he will give his hire a fair shot as long as the program doesn't completely tank. If that makes you more frustrated, so be it, but that's where we are at.

what is your basis for believing that admin and fans would not put up with mediocre basketball for more than 3 years?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 25, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
During the Elite 8 run was Denis our best player?

Was Denis a Frank recruit?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 12:49:51 PM
what is your basis for believing that admin and fans would not put up with mediocre basketball for more than 3 years?

We know what good basketball is like again. And I don't think as many people will look away to football, not that I expect football to reach the heights it was when mediocre basketball became accepted. To think that K-State or its fans would accept a repeat of what Wooly did is absurd to me.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fuktard on April 25, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:04:59 PM
what is your basis for believing that admin and fans would not put up with mediocre basketball for more than 3 years?

We know what good basketball is like again. And I don't think as many people will look away to football, not that I expect football to reach the heights it was when mediocre basketball became accepted. To think that K-State or its fans would accept a repeat of what Wooly did is absurd to me.
 

If football is rolling again, they won't give a crap about what basketball is doing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!

Yes they are. oscar's standard will be Frank. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!

everyone is talking about and caring about Frank followed by the angry face is what you meant to post. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:07:31 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 01:08:59 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.

everyone has different standards.  99% of our fanbase's standard is going to be how Frank had performed and how they think he would have performed going forward. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fuktard on April 25, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!

LOL...blind?  or just choosing to ignore?   ....Frank mentioned 15 times in the 20 posts on this page.

btw, "irregardless" is not a word....discuss
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:10:04 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.

everyone has different standards.  99% of our fanbase's standard is going to be how Frank had performed and how they think he would have performed going forward. 

Well that's effing stupid and all you retards who think this way deserve to be miserable going forward.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!

LOL...blind?  or just choosing to ignore?   ....Frank mentioned 15 times in the 20 posts on this page.

btw, "irregardless" is not a word....discuss

well then you didn't see what i did there you fuktard.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.

everyone has different standards.  99% of our fanbase's standard is going to be how Frank had performed and how they think he would have performed going forward. 

Well that's effing stupid and all you retards who think this way deserve to be miserable going forward.

do you disagree with it though?  I mean, it's fact.  if we are going to get into what our fanbase does that rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) we will be here awhile. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 25, 2012, 01:22:03 PM
Can somone point in the direction of the Frank v Weber debate?  I keep getting lost in this Assistant Coach Rumor Thread.  Weird.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 01:24:10 PM
Can somone point in the direction of the Frank v Weber debate?  I keep getting lost in this Assistant Coach Rumor Thread.  Weird.

debate?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 01:29:42 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.

everyone has different standards.  99% of our fanbase's standard is going to be how Frank had performed and how they think he would have performed going forward. 

Yep.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 25, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
Can somone point in the direction of the Frank v Weber debate?  I keep getting lost in this Assistant Coach Rumor Thread.  Weird.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 25, 2012, 01:39:02 PM
Can somone point in the direction of the Frank v Weber debate?  I keep getting lost in this Assistant Coach Rumor Thread.  Weird.

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+5

I wonder who would laugh more at that?  Frank would probably grin more but based on how angry he is, he probably enjoyed it more.  oscar would probably literally LOL, but only becuse he felt he needed to win the fans over.  His past would indicate he would laugh real hard at first, then reall not thing its as funny 4 or 5 minutes in.  By the 9th minute, he would not be laughing at all. 

Discuss.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 01:41:29 PM
Can somone point in the direction of the Frank v Weber debate?  I keep getting lost in this Assistant Coach Rumor Thread.  Weird.

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Heh.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 25, 2012, 01:42:39 PM
Focus:  Is this staff (let’s say we get No Name III) better than frank's?  I say it’s equalish on paper.  But I wasn’t ever all that impressed with Unds or Figgs.

w/ Howard would have been better than frank's. but he chose to go to powerhouse U.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2012, 01:48:43 PM
Focus:  Is this staff (let’s say we get No Name III) better than frank's?  I say it’s equalish on paper.  But I wasn’t ever all that impressed with Unds or Figgs.

w/ Howard would have been better than frank's. but he chose to go to powerhouse U.

I think a lot of people would say that lowery is a better assistant than any non-'te-while-still-relevant assistant frank had.  I don't see him recruiting anyone worth a damn so I don't know that I agree with that. I see his upside as the eventual "guy who saved the season by installing some stupid offense and everyone gets excited about".  connected 'te is better than anyone on this staff.  figger and unds and lamont and non-connected-'te and whoever else weber hires are all nobodys who are meaningless until they prove otherwise. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2012, 01:52:06 PM
Frank had a bunch of no names, Weber has a bunch of no names.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
I think Lowry was a good hire. I have no problem with hiring a fired HC as a lead assistant. I'm hopeful he still has plenty of connections and can recruit.

That said, its very disappointing to a) clearly miss on the other assistant targets and b) be several weeks in and still not have those positions filled.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
Focus:  Is this staff (let’s say we get No Name III) better than frank's?  I say it’s equalish on paper.

worse
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 02:00:49 PM
Are there any former K-State players from the early 80's now working as assistant coaches at no name Junior Colleges that Weber can hire?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Are their any former Missouri Valley Players who spent 7 seasons after college playing in the USBL and in various foreign countries that Weber can bring in as a graduate assistant manager?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Are there any assistants out there who served as a DOBO on a staff that was terminated with extreme prejudice at their previous job, and who prior to their job as DOBO served as an assistant for a Sunbelt Conference team?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
Are their any gofor types now rattling around at Big East schools that Weber can bring in to be video coordinator?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
i wish everyone would just come out and admit that there is no way this team can succeed
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fuktard on April 25, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
I think Lowry was a good hire. I have no problem with hiring a fired HC as a lead assistant. I'm hopeful he still has plenty of connections and can recruit.

That said, its very disappointing to a) clearly miss on the other assistant targets and b) be several weeks in and still not have those positions filled.

Lowery = excellent hire.  INCREDIBLY disappointing to miss out on our top 2-3 assistant targets.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 25, 2012, 02:31:38 PM
btw, "irregardless" is not a word....discuss

it has letters, those letters form sounds, those sounds link to generate a longer sound that has a meaning that is understood by 99% of english speakers that encounter it.  it's a word you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) dumbass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: JohnisnottheCurrie on April 25, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Saw Brad Korn on campus with Chris and Weber and a really tall black dude, walking through the parking garage... I could've ended it all
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
Saw Brad Korn on campus with Chris and Weber and a really tall black dude, walking through the parking garage... I could've ended it all

Really tall black dude?  Taller than korn?  Old or young?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 25, 2012, 04:01:30 PM
I'm surprised and ever so slightly impressed that Weber didn't bring in Jay Price as one of his assistant coaches, particularly given the misses.  That guy is shitty.  Can only be a positive for KSU that Weber finally cut him loose no matter who he ends up hiring instead.  Not-Jay-Price will always be far superior to Jay Price. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: JohnisnottheCurrie on April 25, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 25, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
I'm surprised and ever so slightly impressed that Weber didn't bring in Jay Price as one of his assistant coaches, particularly given the misses.  That guy is shitty.  Can only be a positive for KSU that Weber finally cut him loose no matter who he ends up hiring instead.  Not-Jay-Price will always be far superior to Jay Price. 


Price is coming on as DOBO, Weber will announce the staff when everybody is in place, I would assume Alvin Brooks III was offered yesterday and accepted, have no idea who the last ast. will be.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 25, 2012, 04:12:37 PM
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.

Terrence Rencher and Alvin Brooks III are only about 6'2/6'2  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.

Terrence Rencher and Alvin Brooks III are only about 6'2/6'2  :dunno:

And far younget than lowrey.  Mys  :dunno: assistant? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
LOL at anyone talking about the next 5 years with Frank....he had filled his nest with crap. 

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT OR CARING ABOUT FRANK!

Yes they are. oscar's standard will be Frank. It is what it is.

It should be too.  I can't wait for the people who crapped all over Frank's accomplishments to spin oscar Weber in 5 years.  I want him to exceed what Frank did, but he won't.  When we revisit this conversation none of should be held accountable for our opinions, its internet harassment to bring said opinions up later.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 25, 2012, 04:21:48 PM
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.

Terrence Rencher and Alvin Brooks III are only about 6'2/6'2  :dunno:

And far younget than lowrey.  Mys  :dunno: assistant? 
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.

Terrence Rencher and Alvin Brooks III are only about 6'2/6'2  :dunno:

And far younget than lowrey.  Mys  :dunno: assistant?
Tall man, tall son? :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
A standard is set irregardless of who the coach is.  The standard should be .500 in off years and top 4 during good years.  i'd say top 4 finishes 3 out of 5 years and top half finishes every year should be standard here.

everyone has different standards.  99% of our fanbase's standard is going to be how Frank had performed and how they think he would have performed going forward. 

Well that's effing stupid and all you retards who think this way deserve to be miserable going forward.

oscar will be judged by Frank because oscar hasn't accomplished as much the last 5 years.  We hired a coach who has a lower bar than the previous coach.  If we hired a better coach it would be much easier to judge him on his own merits.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: JohnisnottheCurrie on April 25, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
Don't get your hopes up or down I really didn't get a good look at him, he was walking along side oscar, who I didn't recognize at first, he kinda just looked like an alum or random old person walking to the parking office in a black KSU polo. Was going around that corner of the garage, hell it could've been JO for all I know. Didn't realize it was Bball staff until I saw Korn and Lowery.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on April 25, 2012, 04:37:21 PM
I'm surprised and ever so slightly impressed that Weber didn't bring in Jay Price as one of his assistant coaches, particularly given the misses.  That guy is shitty.  Can only be a positive for KSU that Weber finally cut him loose no matter who he ends up hiring instead.  Not-Jay-Price will always be far superior to Jay Price. 


Price is coming on as DOBO, Weber will announce the staff when everybody is in place, I would assume Alvin Brooks III was offered yesterday and accepted, have no idea who the last ast. will be.

That's my point though.  He'll no longer be a recruiter or an instructor, both things he was miserable at.  Baby step in the right direction for oscar.  He never had the sack to make the same move at Illinois. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 25, 2012, 04:37:42 PM
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oscar Weber has his next assistant: http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1359261

Robert, what gives? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2012, 04:40:13 PM
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oscar Weber has his next assistant: http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1359261

Robert, what gives?

Copy/ paste pls.  TIA
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Post by: beefpac on April 25, 2012, 04:42:01 PM
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oscar Weber has his next assistant: http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1359261

Robert, what gives?

Copy/ paste pls.  TIA

I don't have it.  I was hoping somone else would.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
April 25, 2012 Weber close to filling staff opening Robert Cassidy GoPowercat.com Staff Writer

oscar Weber's search to fill the seats next to him on the Kansas State bench has been a lengthy one, but it seems to be inching toward its conclusion.

Weber is expected to announce Alvin Brooks III as his second assistant coach, a source told GoPowercat.com on Wednesday. Brooks, who interviewed for the job in Manhattan earlier this week, agreed to join the K-State staff shortly after meeting with Weber. Contract details are still being finalized.

Brooks III, who was previously an assistant at Sam Houston State, joined the Bearcat staff in 2010 after spending the previous two seasons at Bradley as an assistant and the Braves' recruiting coordinator. He has also coached at Arkansas-Fort Smith and Midland College.

Sam Houston State complied a 31-32 record during Brooks III's two-year tenure and won a Southland Conference West Division championship in Brooks III's first season.

Brooks played college basketball at Idaho State, from which he graduated in 2002 after garnering Academic All-Big Sky Conference honors as a senior.

He is the son of is the son of Alvin Brooks II, a former head coach and current associate head coach at Houston who has coached under Billy Gillespie at both Kentucky and Texas A&M.

Brook's joins Weber and associate head coach Chris Lowery at K-State. The Wildcat staff remains unfinished, but is expected to round out in the coming week.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 04:50:14 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on April 25, 2012, 04:52:32 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.

Consistent, very nice. Like it, love it, or hate it, time to put all of that aside and go get some players and climb the Big 12 charts.  :ksu:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 04:59:04 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.

per this korn is DOBO:

http://www.st-extra.com/extra/?p=1675

perhaps Price is still in the mix for full time asst.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: NEkansasCat on April 25, 2012, 05:06:43 PM
About the same height as Korn, and about Lowery's age. I didn't get a great look at him as I was haulin balls to get to class.

Any word on if Doug Edwards was sticking around or if he will be leaving too. Pretty sure I saw him leaving BWW 2 weeks ago, not close enough to confirm though. Seems like he might be worth keeping around if possible.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 25, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.

I don't know why but I believe BallPayers more  :dunno:

per this korn is DOBO:

http://www.st-extra.com/extra/?p=1675

perhaps Price is still in the mix for full time asst.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2012, 05:13:15 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.

I don't know why but I believe BallPayers more  :dunno:

per this korn is DOBO:

http://www.st-extra.com/extra/?p=1675

perhaps Price is still in the mix for full time asst.

didn't know what BP posted.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2012, 05:17:23 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.

per this korn is DOBO:

http://www.st-extra.com/extra/?p=1675

perhaps Price is still in the mix for full time asst.

Or he turned down dobo for prides sake.  I sure webers comment about " jay needing to decide what he wants to do" was related to that.  Of course weber may have gotten far enough down the list that price is now his best option.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 25, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.
 

Yes, and I agree with Bread on Weber droping Price and that other loser from Illinios.  I think he's on the right track in terms of his thought process, though he failed miserably in the early execution.  Not big on Korn as an assistant.  You know that Brooks is extremely connected at the bare minimum.  Hope Korn's interviewing for something else, though i am sure I'll be disappointed.

I don't know why but I believe BallPayers more  :dunno:

per this korn is DOBO:

http://www.st-extra.com/extra/?p=1675

perhaps Price is still in the mix for full time asst.

didn't know what BP posted.
HC: Weber
AHC: Lowery
2nd Ast: Brooks III
3rd Ast: ??????
DOBO: Price
Video Coordinator: Korn
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2012, 07:32:41 AM
meh, I'm fine w/ Brooks. I will stick with my unproven commodity >>> proven suckage mantra.



http://www.alvinbrooks.com/saying.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-paBQJ8I4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBWEO_OJbwM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArrcIdqa_5o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Nkl8LGGKc

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 26, 2012, 09:31:06 AM
don't confuse the 2 Prices.....Jay and Jimmy.    Jimmy is the S&C coach.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 26, 2012, 10:30:29 AM
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oscar Weber tells me he's still talking to Alvin Brooks about joining his staff. Nothing agreed on yet, but he's hopeful a deal will be made

Really?  How hard is it to say, "Hey III, how much are you making at SHS?  Okay, here is an extra X, come dominate over here."?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 10:30:54 AM
LOL. Wow.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
I hope it's due to oscar understanding what Brook's market value is and Brooks wanting to make more than the student team managers.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2012, 10:44:00 AM
I hope it's due to oscar understanding what Brook's market value is and Brooks wanting to make more than the student team managers.

I'm assuming it's one of two things.

1) oscar gave a flippant answer to Robinett because he simply doesn't care and just wanted to say something
2) Currie understands what Brook's market value is and is saying, "I'm not paying some guy from SHS $180k a year," or whatever the number may be.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 26, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
I'm not on team buthurt or team burnitdown, but if we fail to land our 14th option for AC and add in the shady Gray thing, I might be changing my uni to team burnitdown.  This is redic! :bang:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
I hope it's due to oscar understanding what Brook's market value is and Brooks wanting to make more than the student team managers.

I'm assuming it's one of two things.

1) oscar gave a flippant answer to Robinett because he simply doesn't care and just wanted to say something
2) Currie understands what Brook's market value is and is saying, "I'm not paying some guy from SHS $180k a year," or whatever the number may be.

3) Brooks has some more rogue recruiting to do.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
4) Brooks loves his current job
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
I'm actually at the point where I am tired of being angry about this.  I am interested to see what Brooks can do.


Also, I really want to believe _FAN's #3, but I am starting to learn my lesson after the last month or so.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
I hope it's due to oscar understanding what Brook's market value is and Brooks wanting to make more than the student team managers.

I'm assuming it's one of two things.

1) oscar gave a flippant answer to Robinett because he simply doesn't care and just wanted to say something
2) Currie understands what Brook's market value is and is saying, "I'm not paying some guy from SHS $180k a year," or whatever the number may be.

3) Brooks has some more rogue recruiting to do.

 :D
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 10:58:48 AM
He's still employed as an NCAA coach.

Which I guess makes him a bit unique for us.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 26, 2012, 10:59:15 AM
Just a little perspective...I understand feeling underwhelmed by the current rumored hire as well as others rumored to be in talks. However, if you think about it, all the hotshot recruiters out there had to get their starts somewhere. Someone had to give them a chance to prove themselves. I for one would like to just wait and see how this staff will do before judging too harshly.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Just a little perspective...I understand feeling underwhelmed by the current rumored hire as well as others rumored to be in talks. However, if you think about it, all the hotshot recruiters out there had to get their starts somewhere. Someone had to give them a chance to prove themselves. I for one would like to just wait and see how this staff will do before judging too harshly.

The hot shot recruiters out there started by being linked to an AAU program or other name coach/recruiter.  It's a who-you-know biz.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 26, 2012, 11:02:28 AM
Just a little perspective...I understand feeling underwhelmed by the current rumored hire as well as others rumored to be in talks. However, if you think about it, all the hotshot recruiters out there had to get their starts somewhere. Someone had to give them a chance to prove themselves. I for one would like to just wait and see how this staff will do before judging too harshly.

The hot shot recruiters out there started by being linked to an AAU program or other name coach/recruiter.  It's a who-you-know biz.

No question.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 26, 2012, 11:08:19 AM
I'm surprised and ever so slightly impressed that Weber didn't bring in Jay Price as one of his assistant coaches, particularly given the misses.  That guy is shitty.  Can only be a positive for KSU that Weber finally cut him loose no matter who he ends up hiring instead.  Not-Jay-Price will always be far superior to Jay Price. 


Price is coming on as DOBO, Weber will announce the staff when everybody is in place, I would assume Alvin Brooks III was offered yesterday and accepted, have no idea who the last ast. will be.

Heard that isn't for sure. Heard Price is still debating on whether to take the DOBO position. Is quite the demotion afterall. Coaches and their egos ya know. Is it even remotely possible that he'd be Asst. #3?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 26, 2012, 11:10:41 AM
I hope it's due to oscar understanding what Brook's market value is and Brooks wanting to make more than the student team managers.

I'm assuming it's one of two things.

1) oscar gave a flippant answer to Robinett because he simply doesn't care and just wanted to say something
2) Currie understands what Brook's market value is and is saying, "I'm not paying some guy from SHS $180k a year," or whatever the number may be.

3) Brooks has some more rogue recruiting to do.

 :pray: otherwise  :bang:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 11:20:12 AM
After having his first two options bail out after a supposed agreement, he's probably not going to tell anybody its done til the ink is dry.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 12:16:19 PM
Larry Brown has hired Jerrence and this guy:

http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/maligi_ulric00.html

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18842881/smus-larry-brown-makes-big-time-hire-to-get-texas-kids

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Eric Bossi ? @ebosshoops
@GoodmanCBS Boom, Maligi is a HUGE hire for Brown. Absolutely HUGE.


*sigh*
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 26, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
SMU is straight clowning us.

But I bet they care less about there student athletes. #moralhighground
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
Goodman just destroyed their AD on twitter for weeks about how much of a joke the coaching search was becoming. Now they have a monster recruiting staff and a legendary nba coach.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 12:28:35 PM
Goodman just destroyed their AD on twitter for weeks about how much of a joke the coaching search was becoming. Now they have a monster recruiting staff and a legendary nba coach.

Goodman breaks a lot of stories but is kind of a dumbass most of the time.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
eff goodman and eff all the negators in this thread

you're all the same
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 26, 2012, 01:52:31 PM
eff goodman and eff all the negators in this thread

you're all the same

wow. major butthurt calling specialist clams. at ease soldier, at ease.    :lol:

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2012, 01:56:05 PM
eff goodman and eff all the negators in this thread

you're all the same

wow. major butthurt calling specialist clams. at ease soldier, at ease.    :lol:



hey look it's rick daris

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 26, 2012, 03:09:47 PM
Larry Brown has hired Jerrence and this guy:

http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/maligi_ulric00.html

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18842881/smus-larry-brown-makes-big-time-hire-to-get-texas-kids

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Eric Bossi ? @ebosshoops
@GoodmanCBS Boom, Maligi is a HUGE hire for Brown. Absolutely HUGE.

*sigh*


Would have been fun!

And then in two years, we could have handed the reigns to Pearl!

Seriously, how fun would that have been?!!!!!






Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 03:14:16 PM
Larry Brown has hired Jerrence and this guy:

http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/maligi_ulric00.html

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18842881/smus-larry-brown-makes-big-time-hire-to-get-texas-kids

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Eric Bossi ? @ebosshoops
@GoodmanCBS Boom, Maligi is a HUGE hire for Brown. Absolutely HUGE.

*sigh*


Would have been fun!

And then in two years, we could have handed the reigns to Pearl!

Seriously, how fun would that have been?!!!!!

Would you take with jank as hciw? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
Larry Brown has hired Jerrence and this guy:

http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/maligi_ulric00.html

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18842881/smus-larry-brown-makes-big-time-hire-to-get-texas-kids

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Eric Bossi ? @ebosshoops
@GoodmanCBS Boom, Maligi is a HUGE hire for Brown. Absolutely HUGE.

*sigh*


Would have been fun!

And then in two years, we could have handed the reigns to Pearl!

Seriously, how fun would that have been?!!!!!

Would you take with jank as hciw? 

No. But that is still up in the air. I'm not sure if SMU is insisting Jank be HCIW or what. Strange deal.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 03:17:41 PM
never mind. Jank to SMU is Goodman-official.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
I would definitely not take Jank as HCIW.  I would not even be happy with him as assistant coach in residency. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
I think brown is the one insisting.  I don't think you get brown without jank, or some other brown cronie of his choosing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
I think brown is the one insisting.  I don't think you get brown without jank, or some other brown cronie of his choosing.

then I would agree to it w/ my fingers crossed behind my back.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 26, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 26, 2012, 03:48:42 PM
Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?

I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there that we haven't heard of. The UH guy Brown hired would have made a ton of people happy. The question is whether or not oscar has the desire/know-how to identify and hire someone like that. I would say he has the know-how, considering he hired Howard at Illinois when he had one year as a DOBO and 3 years as an admin assistant. Not sure if he wants to have someone like that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.

I don't think Howard stays after Brown leaves.  I think he just wants "Worked for Larry Brown" on his resume because that's been pretty good for a lot of guys in the college ranks.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?

I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there that we haven't heard of. The UH guy Brown hired would have made a ton of people happy. The question is whether or not oscar has the desire/know-how to identify and hire someone like that. I would say he has the know-how, considering he hired Howard at Illinois when he had one year as a DOBO and 3 years as an admin assistant. Not sure if he wants to have someone like that.

I don't know if oscar is the guy we get upset with here.  Wasn't one of Frank's biggest gripes with Currie his stinginess with assistant salaries?

I'm assuming we have X dollars available for assistants, we spent $210k on Lowery, I'm sure if Price is the DOBO, he's an expensive DOBO, and we're looking to get young guys wanting to make a name for a bargain price to fill out the staff.

That's what I'm going with. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 26, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.

I don't think Howard stays after Brown leaves.  I think he just wants "Worked for Larry Brown" on his resume because that's been pretty good for a lot of guys in the college ranks.

Exactly.   

Oh and before #teambutthurt says it, Larry Brown's track record of success and rebuilding mushes all over Frank Martin's face all day every day and twice on Sunday . . . Howard was a prime recruiter on a Big 10 staff, which would have have made him vastly over qualified for Frank Martin who preferred fired DOBO's, no name Juco assistants, and former USBL/Euro League stars.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 04:21:14 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.

I don't think Howard stays after Brown leaves.  I think he just wants "Worked for Larry Brown" on his resume because that's been pretty good for a lot of guys in the college ranks.

who gives a crap


Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?

I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there that we haven't heard of. The UH guy Brown hired would have made a ton of people happy. The question is whether or not oscar has the desire/know-how to identify and hire someone like that. I would say he has the know-how, considering he hired Howard at Illinois when he had one year as a DOBO and 3 years as an admin assistant. Not sure if he wants to have someone like that.

I don't know if oscar is the guy we get upset with here.  Wasn't one of Frank's biggest gripes with Currie his stinginess with assistant salaries?

I'm assuming we have X dollars available for assistants, we spent $210k on Lowery, I'm sure if Price is the DOBO, he's an expensive DOBO, and we're looking to get young guys wanting to make a name for a bargain price to fill out the staff.

That's what I'm going with. 

If Weber is insisting on an expensive DOBO he's a rough ridin' dipshit. And the type of coach I'm referring to would be young, well-connected guys. I even gave you the UH example. No way that guy is ridiculously expensive. I realize Weber should think his lucky stars he isn't coaching in the Atlantic Sun this year, but he should push back on Currie on this if Currie is back from Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 26, 2012, 04:30:43 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.

I don't think Howard stays after Brown leaves.  I think he just wants "Worked for Larry Brown" on his resume because that's been pretty good for a lot of guys in the college ranks.

who gives a crap


Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?

I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there that we haven't heard of. The UH guy Brown hired would have made a ton of people happy. The question is whether or not oscar has the desire/know-how to identify and hire someone like that. I would say he has the know-how, considering he hired Howard at Illinois when he had one year as a DOBO and 3 years as an admin assistant. Not sure if he wants to have someone like that.

I don't know if oscar is the guy we get upset with here.  Wasn't one of Frank's biggest gripes with Currie his stinginess with assistant salaries?

I'm assuming we have X dollars available for assistants, we spent $210k on Lowery, I'm sure if Price is the DOBO, he's an expensive DOBO, and we're looking to get young guys wanting to make a name for a bargain price to fill out the staff.

That's what I'm going with. 

If Weber is insisting on an expensive DOBO he's a rough ridin' dipshit. And the type of coach I'm referring to would be young, well-connected guys. I even gave you the UH example. No way that guy is ridiculously expensive. I realize Weber should think his lucky stars he isn't coaching in the Atlantic Sun this year, but he should push back on Currie on this if Currie is back from Puerto Rico.

I would have taken the UH guy.  But, again, Brown is going to get better assistants because they all think they're going to be Bill Self and John Calipari.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 26, 2012, 04:34:13 PM
Hey, maybe we should have hired this Larry Brown guy.  Why didn't anyone think of that?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
I would have taken the UH guy.  But, again, Brown is going to get better assistants because they all think they're going to be Bill Self and John Calipari.

LOL @ SMU. Little did they know that they are only getting really good assistants because they hired a legendary coach. What a bunch of clowns! :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on April 26, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
Hey, maybe we should have hired this Larry Brown guy.  Why didn't anyone think of that?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2012, 04:52:55 PM
Hey, maybe we should have hired this Larry Brown guy.  Why didn't anyone think of that?

I not so kindly kindly asked you to STFU about Larry Brown, I'm sorry ira.

You stuck your neck out and thought outside the box.  You were annoying as hell doing so but you were right, Grats.  You earned it.

However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 04:55:29 PM
I would love to see the contract that promises Jank the HC job where it can't easily be pulled away once Larry is gone. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 04:57:07 PM
Hey, maybe we should have hired this Larry Brown guy.  Why didn't anyone think of that?

I not so kindly kindly asked you to STFU about Larry Brown, I'm sorry ira.

You stuck your neck out and thought outside the box.  You were annoying as hell doing so but you were right, Grats.  You earned it.

However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

I'm sure Jank wasn't the only coach he would have considered as HCIW.  and like CNS said I'm guessing the contract is somewhat flimsy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
I would love to see the contract that promises Jank the HC job where it can't easily be pulled away once Larry is gone.

I'm sure there was just a big buyout that makes Jank a millionaire no matter what.  The real solution would be to shitcan Brown two years in and hire Pearl.  WOuld be elite to fire a HOF coach for a better option in the midst of a successful run.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 26, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 05:09:59 PM
I would love to see the contract that promises Jank the HC job where it can't easily be pulled away once Larry is gone.

I'm sure there was just a big buyout that makes Jank a millionaire no matter what.  The real solution would be to shitcan Brown two years in and hire Pearl.  WOuld be elite to fire a HOF coach for a better option in the midst of a successful run.

Or just give Pearl (fellow Jew) DOBO/HCIW from the start. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 05:15:45 PM
I would love to see the contract that promises Jank the HC job where it can't easily be pulled away once Larry is gone.

I'm sure there was just a big buyout that makes Jank a millionaire no matter what.  The real solution would be to shitcan Brown two years in and hire Pearl.  WOuld be elite to fire a HOF coach for a better option in the midst of a successful run.

Or just give Pearl (fellow Jew) DOBO/HCIW from the start. Problem solved.

Well yeah...but the the original assumption was that you have a HCIW contract with Jank.   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 26, 2012, 05:17:43 PM
I haven't been on the board much the last couple days so this may have been discussed, but I promise it will be the last thing I put on here about Larry Brown.

Quote
What do you think it will be like recruiting?:

“You mean because I’m too old? No, I think it’s just the opposite to be honest with you. Everywhere I go to visit college kids, and I’ve had the opportunity to go everywhere and watch practice … kids are so interested in me because I’ve had an NBA background. They all want to go to the NBA. … So that, in itself, is a huge advantage. The fact that I’ve coached a lot of great players, they’re all interested in that and want to hear all about it. You get instant credibility right away. And I think the contacts I’ve made as a pro coach and the kids that have coached with me that are now working on every level, they’re all going to help.”
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2012, 05:22:04 PM
Larry Brown was on the Don't Burn It Down list  :frown:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 26, 2012, 05:24:10 PM
Jank blows.  I don't know what the fixation is with this guy by the national media types.

God, it just sickens me that Weber airballed on Howard and he ends up on Brown's staff.  Still can't get over that.  The one thing we needed was a proven recruiter.  The one rough ridin' thing.

I don't think Howard stays after Brown leaves.  I think he just wants "Worked for Larry Brown" on his resume because that's been pretty good for a lot of guys in the college ranks.

who gives a crap


Okay, so assuming we can somehow hammer a deal out for III, who are the leading canidates for the remaining spot?  I know Price has been thrown out there but could possibly be DOBO, but could also be AC too.  No thank you.  Anyone else with legit possibilities?  Anyone from AAU circuit?

I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there that we haven't heard of. The UH guy Brown hired would have made a ton of people happy. The question is whether or not oscar has the desire/know-how to identify and hire someone like that. I would say he has the know-how, considering he hired Howard at Illinois when he had one year as a DOBO and 3 years as an admin assistant. Not sure if he wants to have someone like that.

I don't know if oscar is the guy we get upset with here.  Wasn't one of Frank's biggest gripes with Currie his stinginess with assistant salaries?

I'm assuming we have X dollars available for assistants, we spent $210k on Lowery, I'm sure if Price is the DOBO, he's an expensive DOBO, and we're looking to get young guys wanting to make a name for a bargain price to fill out the staff.

That's what I'm going with. 

If Weber is insisting on an expensive DOBO he's a rough ridin' dipshit. And the type of coach I'm referring to would be young, well-connected guys. I even gave you the UH example. No way that guy is ridiculously expensive. I realize Weber should think his lucky stars he isn't coaching in the Atlantic Sun this year, but he should push back on Currie on this if Currie is back from Puerto Rico.

I heard on another message board that Josh Eilert interviewed for that position. Why couldn't we get him at a discount? Then that would fulfill the K-State connection the fans seem to so desperately want and we'd have a young guy to round out the staff?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2012, 05:25:14 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.

It's a hypothetical Ira, Jackie Hartman now works at the University of Delaware.  Would you take Larry Brown as your coach for 3 years if Jank was contracted to be the head coach for the following 5?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 26, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 26, 2012, 05:31:35 PM
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 26, 2012, 06:13:38 PM
All the talk in this thread about what the standard should be, while interesting, is a complete waste of time.  The only person whose "standard" matters is Currie, and his only standard is "don't do anything to make me look bad".  Unless Weber completely tanks the program, Currie will keep him around.  A couple of NITs and an NCAA appearance once every five years will keep things just good enough that Currie won't be forced to fire him and admit he made a mistake.  As long as Currie is here, we're stuck with Weber...unless he burns it to the ground posthaste, or Currie moves on to his destination job.  #teamhorns
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on April 26, 2012, 06:19:24 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.

It's a hypothetical Ira, Jackie Hartman now works at the University of Delaware.  Would you take Larry Brown as your coach for 3 years if Jank was contracted to be the head coach for the following 5?

It's a fairy tale hypothetical.

If KSU had a goose that laid golden eggs would you want us to trade it for Bill Self?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2012, 06:21:05 PM
All the talk in this thread about what the standard should be, while interesting, is a complete waste of time.  The only person whose "standard" matters is Currie, and his only standard is "don't do anything to make me look bad".  Unless Weber completely tanks the program, Currie will keep him around.  A couple of NITs and an NCAA appearance once every five years will keep things just good enough that Currie won't be forced to fire him and admit he made a mistake.  As long as Currie is here, we're stuck with Weber...unless he burns it to the ground posthaste, or Currie moves on to his destination job.  #teamhorns

BBSing in general is interesting, but a complete waste of time. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.

It's a hypothetical Ira, Jackie Hartman now works at the University of Delaware.  Would you take Larry Brown as your coach for 3 years if Jank was contracted to be the head coach for the following 5?

It's a fairy tale hypothetical.

If KSU had a goose that laid golden eggs would you want us to trade it for Bill Self?

It was a pretty simple hypothetical.  If you said you wouldn't want three years of Brown if it then meant five years of Jank, it would have not made your Brown pining less relevant, we weren't discussing assistants then.

I'll say it for you, hell no you wouldn't take a package deal of Brown and Jank.  Don't worry Ira, the rest of us wouldn't either and Larry is still boss.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
All the talk in this thread about what the standard should be, while interesting, is a complete waste of time.  The only person whose "standard" matters is Currie, and his only standard is "don't do anything to make me look bad".  Unless Weber completely tanks the program, Currie will keep him around.  A couple of NITs and an NCAA appearance once every five years will keep things just good enough that Currie won't be forced to fire him and admit he made a mistake.  As long as Currie is here, we're stuck with Weber...unless he burns it to the ground posthaste, or Currie moves on to his destination job.  #teamhorns

seems like you've finally come around, mccock.  welcome to paradise. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2012, 07:57:16 PM
Would have been fun!

And then in two years, we could have handed the reigns to Pearl!

Seriously, how fun would that have been?!!!!!

brown, maligi, howard and non-recruiting, ciw pearl?  yeah that would have been about the only thing currie could have done to not look like a giant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for running off martin.  not even rusty would believe he'd have the balls to even consider it though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 26, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
All the talk in this thread about what the standard should be, while interesting, is a complete waste of time.  The only person whose "standard" matters is Currie, and his only standard is "don't do anything to make me look bad".  Unless Weber completely tanks the program, Currie will keep him around.  A couple of NITs and an NCAA appearance once every five years will keep things just good enough that Currie won't be forced to fire him and admit he made a mistake.  As long as Currie is here, we're stuck with Weber...unless he burns it to the ground posthaste, or Currie moves on to his destination job.  #teamhorns

seems like you've finally come around, mccock.  welcome to paradise.

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Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2012, 09:12:12 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.

It's a hypothetical Ira, Jackie Hartman now works at the University of Delaware.  Would you take Larry Brown as your coach for 3 years if Jank was contracted to be the head coach for the following 5?

It's a fairy tale hypothetical.

If KSU had a goose that laid golden eggs would you want us to trade it for Bill Self?

It was a pretty simple hypothetical.  If you said you wouldn't want three years of Brown if it then meant five years of Jank, it would have not made your Brown pining less relevant, we weren't discussing assistants then.

I'll say it for you, hell no you wouldn't take a package deal of Brown and Jank.  Don't worry Ira, the rest of us wouldn't either and Larry is still boss.

I don't know the details but I'd be rough ridin' shocked if Jank gets an eight year deal at SMU.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 26, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
i'd take brown and hciw jank.  it's a toss up. 

weber >>> brown
jank >>> the guy who has to follow weber
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2012, 11:28:12 PM
However, would you have beat the Larry Brown drum if you knew it came with Jank as HCIW?  Ignore that Jank would not have been invited here with his ex wife working in Anderson Hall.

How can you ignore that?  Jank's ex-wife is on the freaking advisory board and her dad is a legend at KSU.  Jank is not coming back as long as she has a say in who is getting hired.

I think Larry would have loved the K-State job just for all of the irony...for about 2 or 3 years.

Also, there is no need to apologize. I enjoy being annoying. Especially when I am right.

It's a hypothetical Ira, Jackie Hartman now works at the University of Delaware.  Would you take Larry Brown as your coach for 3 years if Jank was contracted to be the head coach for the following 5?

It's a fairy tale hypothetical.

If KSU had a goose that laid golden eggs would you want us to trade it for Bill Self?

It was a pretty simple hypothetical.  If you said you wouldn't want three years of Brown if it then meant five years of Jank, it would have not made your Brown pining less relevant, we weren't discussing assistants then.

I'll say it for you, hell no you wouldn't take a package deal of Brown and Jank.  Don't worry Ira, the rest of us wouldn't either and Larry is still boss.

I don't know the details but I'd be rough ridin' shocked if Jank gets an eight year deal at SMU.

Unimportant to the hypothetical, just want to make sure that no one would sign up for some Larry Brown for a larger serving of Jank.  I thought Ira would be close but for some reason he is having a hard time squeezing out the two letters, N O.

That being said it will almost certainly be a 6 year deal as a minimum.  As you know head coaches have a minimum of 4 or they'll get killed on the recruiting trail.  Brown will at least be around for 2, listening to him on Jim Rome earlier this week he sure sounds like he wants more.  BTW I think Brown said his mom lived to like 107, seriously.  I think the absolute minimum Jank will be around is 6.  Even if Brown is around for only two he and that staff will build something with the help of the wonderful Nick Russell.  Whatever momentum they build it will take Jank at least 4 to crash it to the point where he over stays his welcome, see his tenure at ISU.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 27, 2012, 08:47:01 AM
Now that I've consulted with other elites, I do feel as though at least one Franking is/was needed to make room for Gray.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 27, 2012, 09:18:17 AM
I just find this kind of bizarre.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7859037/tim-jankovich-agrees-smu-coach-waiting
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 27, 2012, 09:20:50 AM
AB3 official

@Coach_AB3 Thanks to everyone in the Bearkat family, love y'all! I'm excited for the opportunity on joining the Kansas State Family!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 27, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
Q - who is butthurt by the fact that we are getting clownsuited by SMU and a 71 year old man?

A - ME

Also i would have been happy to have Jank as HCIW s.  Hell some people wanted him hired outright. 

However i would have prefered Gottlieb in this role, would have been the best of all possible worlds.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 10:31:06 AM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2012, 10:45:36 AM
Shut up michigancat
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 27, 2012, 10:51:57 AM
So, one spot left.  Who is the next contestant on "Impossible Position to Fill" show?  Is there anyone who we know even interviewed for the job (aside from Price)?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 11:09:30 AM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why

Mostly because he hasn't been fired. This year showed he could win w/o Osiris Eldridge - the team was all his. Mid major coaches aren't as scary when they've had success beyond year 3 IMO. Like I said, it's close. I really have a problem with the getting fired thing.

I realize Weber @SIU was better than Jank @ISU, but it isn't that much better:

1998–99    Southern Illinois    15–12    10–8    T–5th    
1999–00    Southern Illinois    20–13    12–6    3rd    NIT 2nd Round
2000–01    Southern Illinois    16–14    10–8    T–4th    
2001–02    Southern Illinois    28–8    14–4    T–1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–03    Southern Illinois    24–7    16–2    1st    NCAA 1st Round

vs.

2007–2008    Illinois State    25–10    13–5    2nd    NIT Second Round
2008–2009    Illinois State    24–10    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2009–2010    Illinois State    22–11    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2010–2011    Illinois State    12-19    4–14    T9th    
2011-2012    Illinois State    21-14    9-9    T3rd    NIT Second Round
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 27, 2012, 11:38:37 AM
I'm flipping through the record books and trying to see how many Final Four's and National Titles the MVC has relative to the Big 10.

So far it looks pretty one sided.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 27, 2012, 11:58:31 AM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why

Mostly because he hasn't been fired. This year showed he could win w/o Osiris Eldridge - the team was all his. Mid major coaches aren't as scary when they've had success beyond year 3 IMO. Like I said, it's close. I really have a problem with the getting fired thing.

I realize Weber @SIU was better than Jank @ISU, but it isn't that much better:

1998–99    Southern Illinois    15–12    10–8    T–5th    
1999–00    Southern Illinois    20–13    12–6    3rd    NIT 2nd Round
2000–01    Southern Illinois    16–14    10–8    T–4th    
2001–02    Southern Illinois    28–8    14–4    T–1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–03    Southern Illinois    24–7    16–2    1st    NCAA 1st Round

vs.

2007–2008    Illinois State    25–10    13–5    2nd    NIT Second Round
2008–2009    Illinois State    24–10    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2009–2010    Illinois State    22–11    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2010–2011    Illinois State    12-19    4–14    T9th    
2011-2012    Illinois State    21-14    9-9    T3rd    NIT Second Round

Dude stop.  Your better than this.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
It's pretty much a coin flip between Jank and Weber, imo. Neither of them have accomplished anything at all with their own players, and both would most likely put us on a slow path to irrelevance.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why

Mostly because he hasn't been fired. This year showed he could win w/o Osiris Eldridge - the team was all his. Mid major coaches aren't as scary when they've had success beyond year 3 IMO. Like I said, it's close. I really have a problem with the getting fired thing.

I realize Weber @SIU was better than Jank @ISU, but it isn't that much better:

1998–99    Southern Illinois    15–12    10–8    T–5th    
1999–00    Southern Illinois    20–13    12–6    3rd    NIT 2nd Round
2000–01    Southern Illinois    16–14    10–8    T–4th    
2001–02    Southern Illinois    28–8    14–4    T–1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–03    Southern Illinois    24–7    16–2    1st    NCAA 1st Round

vs.

2007–2008    Illinois State    25–10    13–5    2nd    NIT Second Round
2008–2009    Illinois State    24–10    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2009–2010    Illinois State    22–11    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2010–2011    Illinois State    12-19    4–14    T9th    
2011-2012    Illinois State    21-14    9-9    T3rd    NIT Second Round

Does North Texas not count?

1993–1994 North Texas 14–15 9–9 T4th 
1994–1995 North Texas 14–13 9–9 5th 
1995–1996 North Texas 15–13 12–6 2nd 
1996–1997 North Texas 10–16 5–11 5th (East)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 12:23:17 PM
i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.

So the "Matt Painter good coaching" rubbed off and carried over to the first few years at Illinois and then wore off?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2012, 12:31:13 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:33:05 PM
BTW, I agree that Painter is better.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 27, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
Well folks, I've got some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that we've seemed to have moved on from the Weber vs Frank argument.  The bad news is we've landed right in the middle of a Weber vs Jank argument.  Even more bad news is that this one is just as pointless as the other. 

Sigh! 

Any news RE: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  Or am I in the wrong thread for that?  I'm still new to this forum thing so help a noob out. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.

So the "Matt Painter good coaching" rubbed off and carried over to the first few years at Illinois and then wore off?

i am pretty sure that painter is and was the best coach on that siu staff and that if illinois would've hired painter that he would've done everything oscar weber did and more. plus he would still be employed there. i'll readily admit that i didn't understand your question though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2012, 12:35:49 PM
if
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.

So the "Matt Painter good coaching" rubbed off and carried over to the first few years at Illinois and then wore off?

i am pretty sure that painter is and was the best coach on that siu staff and that if illinois would've hired painter that he would've done everything oscar weber did and more. plus he would still be employed there. i'll readily admit that i didn't understand your question though.

Again, Painter > Weber.

I was just implying that since Weber left Painter at SIU when he went to Illinois and was successful for several years without him and coached in the NC game, that Painter's "good coaching effect" must have rubbed off for a couple years on Weber before it wore off.

Look, I get being very cautious because of Weber's last 5 years at Illinois were pedestrian at best. I understand why that alone makes many think he was a terrible hire.

But to do anything and everything to discredit any success he had there early seems silly to me. It seems there are 100 reasons that Illinois played in the NC game his 2nd year there, and his coaching is about #97 on the list.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
if

yeah. illinois obviously hired the wrong coach from that siu staff. which is my point and a pretty big one, but you can't see it because you forgot to put your eyelash paint on today and are getting blinded from the flourescents above your cubicle, numbskull.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 27, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
He the forrest gump of coaching.  A humble simpleton with a heart of gold who hasn't a clue, but stumbles and bumbles his was to fame and fortune.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:46:53 PM
He the forrest gump of coaching.  A humble simpleton with a heart of gold who hasn't a clue, but stumbles and bumbles his was to fame and fortune.   :popcorn:

Also terrible at choosing assistant coaches.

Could someone remind me who hired Painter at SIU again?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 27, 2012, 12:48:45 PM
Well folks, I've got some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that we've seemed to have moved on from the Weber vs Frank argument.  The bad news is we've landed right in the middle of a Weber vs Jank argument.  Even more bad news is that this one is just as pointless as the other. 

Sigh! 

Any news RE: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  Or am I in the wrong thread for that?  I'm still new to this forum thing so help a noob out.

I think this is the right thread.  Weber and Jank may both be decent assistant coaches.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 12:49:42 PM
i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.

So the "Matt Painter good coaching" rubbed off and carried over to the first few years at Illinois and then wore off?

i am pretty sure that painter is and was the best coach on that siu staff and that if illinois would've hired painter that he would've done everything oscar weber did and more. plus he would still be employed there. i'll readily admit that i didn't understand your question though.

Again, Painter > Weber.

I was just implying that since Weber left Painter at SIU when he went to Illinois and was successful for several years without him and coached in the NC game, that Painter's "good coaching effect" must have rubbed off for a couple years on Weber before it wore off.

Look, I get being very cautious because of Weber's last 5 years at Illinois were pedestrian at best. I understand why that alone makes many think he was a terrible hire.

But to do anything and everything to discredit any success he had there early seems silly to me. It seems there are 100 reasons that Illinois played in the NC game his 2nd year there, and his coaching is about #97 on the list.


if you are saying that oscar weber would be a fine coaching hire to come in and take over a team that someone else put together and that already has five future nba players on it that have all played significant minutes and will all be returning, then yes i agree.  i guess the other option would be to hope that this current staff has a future matt painter on it. guess we'll wait and see though! time will tell though! 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why

Mostly because he hasn't been fired. This year showed he could win w/o Osiris Eldridge - the team was all his. Mid major coaches aren't as scary when they've had success beyond year 3 IMO. Like I said, it's close. I really have a problem with the getting fired thing.

I realize Weber @SIU was better than Jank @ISU, but it isn't that much better:

1998–99    Southern Illinois    15–12    10–8    T–5th    
1999–00    Southern Illinois    20–13    12–6    3rd    NIT 2nd Round
2000–01    Southern Illinois    16–14    10–8    T–4th    
2001–02    Southern Illinois    28–8    14–4    T–1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–03    Southern Illinois    24–7    16–2    1st    NCAA 1st Round

vs.

2007–2008    Illinois State    25–10    13–5    2nd    NIT Second Round
2008–2009    Illinois State    24–10    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2009–2010    Illinois State    22–11    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2010–2011    Illinois State    12-19    4–14    T9th    
2011-2012    Illinois State    21-14    9-9    T3rd    NIT Second Round

Dude stop.  Your better than this.

The whole "getting fired" thing is a big deal to me. I mean oscar Weber doesn't need to prove himself - he already did at Illinois. Jank has not been fired at the highest level, so he's unproven compared to Weber.

Don't get me wrong, I would want nothing to do with Jank, and I'm not entirely sure I would take him over Weber. But if you want to look down on me for thinking Weber's dogshit might smell slightly worse than Jank's dogshit, be my guest.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2012, 12:57:43 PM
Rusty, shut up
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Here's the deal with Weber vs. Jank; they are both huge piles of garbage. I'm sure one of them doesn't smell quite as bad as the other, but I would rather not be associated with either one of them.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 12:59:13 PM
I think I would have preferred Jank to oscar straight up as HC. Not sure. It's close.

why

Mostly because he hasn't been fired. This year showed he could win w/o Osiris Eldridge - the team was all his. Mid major coaches aren't as scary when they've had success beyond year 3 IMO. Like I said, it's close. I really have a problem with the getting fired thing.

I realize Weber @SIU was better than Jank @ISU, but it isn't that much better:

1998–99    Southern Illinois    15–12    10–8    T–5th    
1999–00    Southern Illinois    20–13    12–6    3rd    NIT 2nd Round
2000–01    Southern Illinois    16–14    10–8    T–4th    
2001–02    Southern Illinois    28–8    14–4    T–1st    NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–03    Southern Illinois    24–7    16–2    1st    NCAA 1st Round

vs.

2007–2008    Illinois State    25–10    13–5    2nd    NIT Second Round
2008–2009    Illinois State    24–10    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2009–2010    Illinois State    22–11    11–7    3rd    NIT First Round
2010–2011    Illinois State    12-19    4–14    T9th    
2011-2012    Illinois State    21-14    9-9    T3rd    NIT Second Round

Does North Texas not count?

1993–1994 North Texas 14–15 9–9 T4th 
1994–1995 North Texas 14–13 9–9 5th 
1995–1996 North Texas 15–13 12–6 2nd 
1996–1997 North Texas 10–16 5–11 5th (East)


Sure, it counts some, but he took 10 years to get back to a D1 HC job and spent much of that time recruiting for the best program in the region. And I don't think he got fired at UNT.

Rusty, shut up

you shut up

Here's the deal with Weber vs. Jank; they are both huge piles of garbage. I'm sure one of them doesn't smell quite as bad as the other, but I would rather not be associated with either one of them.

exactly.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 27, 2012, 12:59:40 PM
The whole "getting fired" thing is a big deal to me. I mean oscar Weber doesn't need to prove himself - he already did at Illinois. Jank has not been fired at the highest level, so he's unproven compared to Weber.

Don't get me wrong, I would want nothing to do with Jank, and I'm not entirely sure I would take him over Weber. But if you want to look down on me for thinking Weber's dogshit might smell slightly worse than Jank's dogshit, be my guest.

Your "getting fired" point I get and I understand.

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on April 27, 2012, 01:00:28 PM
Any news RE: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  Or am I in the wrong thread for that?  I'm still new to this forum thing so help a noob out. 

Ryan Wallace noted on the gpc podcast yesterday that Brooks is black.  Not sure if rumor, rumbling or grumbling.  If confirmed, not sure if he's a REAL black guy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2012, 01:01:41 PM
I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

it's called butthurt
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 01:08:19 PM

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

I've never said he's Wooly 2.0. I think he will do far better. I think Jank would, too.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on April 27, 2012, 01:13:40 PM
butthurt over weber getting fired is in the top ten of types of butthurt. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 27, 2012, 01:17:52 PM
Well folks, I've got some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that we've seemed to have moved on from the Weber vs Frank argument.  The bad news is we've landed right in the middle of a Weber vs Jank argument.  Even more bad news is that this one is just as pointless as the other. 

Sigh! 

Any news RE: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  Or am I in the wrong thread for that?  I'm still new to this forum thing so help a noob out.

I think your issue is with oscar Weber and not us, dad.  I can invent assistant coaching news if you want me to.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 01:22:48 PM
butthurt over weber getting fired is in the top ten of types of butthurt.

Please do a thread with the complete list.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 27, 2012, 01:25:26 PM
If Jank were at Illinois and went five years without a tournament birth and had a 9th place finish mixed in he would have been fired too, fired before that 9th place season was done.  Even with the lowered expectations he was a C at best.  Favorably comparing Jank to Weber seems absurd.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2012, 01:27:12 PM
Mark Fox v. Jank v. BDub

GO!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 27, 2012, 01:48:01 PM
will someone please rank the Big 12 DOBO's in order from best to worst? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

oscar weber has been the head coach for a month now and in that month i'm pretty sure that you are the only person that made him out to be "wooly part 2". so unless you typed "four weeks ago" into your time machine, while simultaneously seeing double and looking in the mirror, you can kindly cut the "you guys" crap. thanks.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on April 27, 2012, 02:06:36 PM
I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

Weber and Wooly were both fired.  So, they are same. 

Also, I really like Tommy Wade as Director of Player Development at OSU.  dude is a stud DPD.  Big get from Oklahoma City University.  Jerry Johnson is a $$ DOBO at UT.  Old as crap, but good in his day. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 27, 2012, 02:59:40 PM
I will go ahead and say weber will never win more than 10 games in conference while here.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2012, 03:31:35 PM
Are we getting zeigler or did he opt to take a job in conference usa too?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 27, 2012, 03:33:24 PM
I will go ahead and say weber will never win more than 10 games in conference while here.

Counting '12-'13?  Wow.  I disagree, but props for sticking your neck out.  I think we'll do quite well next season, I'm worried about what the culture of his program will be after Rodney is gone.  Rod is an old soul, when Will is the leader the year after next if afraid we'll turn Charmin soft.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on April 27, 2012, 04:44:23 PM

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

I've never said he's Wooly 2.0. I think he will do far better. I think Jank would, too.

...but let's be clear - if Wooly were taking over now, Wooly 2.0 would be better than Wooly 1.0.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 05:09:18 PM

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

I've never said he's Wooly 2.0. I think he will do far better. I think Jank would, too.

...but let's be clear - if Wooly were taking over now, Wooly 2.0 would be better than Wooly 1.0.

very true
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 05:38:10 PM

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

I've never said he's Wooly 2.0. I think he will do far better. I think Jank would, too.

...but let's be clear - if Wooly were taking over now, Wooly 2.0 would be better than Wooly 1.0.

very true

i wonder what wooly could to if he could take over a team that already had 5 future nba players on it  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 27, 2012, 05:43:31 PM

But there is something be said about actually coaching teams to the NCAA tournament multiple times. You can even throw out the 1st 2 seasons at Illinois if you want. I just think its nonsensical that you guys are making Weber out to be Wooly part 2 when that clearly isn't the case.

I've never said he's Wooly 2.0. I think he will do far better. I think Jank would, too.

...but let's be clear - if Wooly were taking over now, Wooly 2.0 would be better than Wooly 1.0.

very true

i wonder what wooly could to if he could take over a team that already had 5 future nba players on it  :dunno:

run the triangle like a boss
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on April 27, 2012, 06:17:41 PM
when Will is the leader the year after next if afraid we'll turn Charmin soft.

can a treacherous coward lead a team?  who would be left to run from and to stab in the back if they're all following?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 27, 2012, 09:39:49 PM
Mark Fox v. Jank v. BDub

GO!

swks > team > chicken nuggets
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 28, 2012, 09:55:58 AM
Mark Fox v. Jank v. BDub

GO!

swks > team > chicken nuggets

He's not proud of his roots.  Also his little sister is awesome, the end
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on April 28, 2012, 10:57:58 AM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: IlliniTillIDie on April 28, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Really nice of Weber to keep that loser Price out recruiting for us when he clearly isn't qualified for the position.

This is great news for you that this guy won't be out there alienating recruits.  The downside is that he is an arrogant cancer who will still be spreading lies and misinformation to people who think that they have inside information and therefore believe it.

Your biggest obstacle in the Weber era will be dishonesty and disingenousness from him and his staff.  They cannot sit back and rest on their record because they will grossly underachieve on their own merits.  They have to constantly manipulate and spread disinformation and blame the fans, AD, and most of all the players while all the while planting stories about how in demand they are  as coaches.  They have been unable to stand on their merits since 2005 when Deron Williams left.

I wish the best of luck to you sorry saps.  You need it with that incompetent fool on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 01:43:58 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on April 28, 2012, 01:49:08 PM
Really nice of Weber to keep that loser Price out recruiting for us when he clearly isn't qualified for the position.

This is great news for you that this guy won't be out there alienating recruits.  The downside is that he is an arrogant cancer who will still be spreading lies and misinformation to people who think that they have inside information and therefore believe it.

Your biggest obstacle in the Weber era will be dishonesty and disingenousness from him and his staff.  They cannot sit back and rest on their record because they will grossly underachieve on their own merits.  They have to constantly manipulate and spread disinformation and blame the fans, AD, and most of all the players while all the while planting stories about how in demand they are  as coaches.  They have been unable to stand on their merits since 2005 when Deron Williams left.

I wish the best of luck to you sorry saps.  You need it with that incompetent fool on the sidelines.

Lol.  I'd be pissed too.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2012, 01:53:53 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.

But you should. As we all know too well, those are the guys that often move up into AC positions on the staff when another AC leaves.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: GodBamNightmare on April 28, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

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http://illinois.scout.com/2/906068.html (http://illinois.scout.com/2/906068.html)  :)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.

But you should. As we all know too well, those are the guys that often move up into AC positions on the staff when another AC leaves.

Weber has had plenty of chances to make him an AC in the past month, and yet, he hasn't.  But he has offered him a DOBO position.

Why would that change in the future if he's not making that concession for an unemployed Price now when he has an open spot to fill?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 02:25:43 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

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http://illinois.scout.com/2/906068.html (http://illinois.scout.com/2/906068.html)  :)

And the purpose of this article is.....??
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 02:29:54 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.

But you should. As we all know too well, those are the guys that often move up into AC positions on the staff when another AC leaves.

Weber has had plenty of chances to make him an AC in the past month, and yet, he hasn't.  But he has offered him a DOBO position.

Why would that change in the future if he's not making that concession for an unemployed Price now when he has an open spot to fill?

Look, I get it. My point was that, in general, the DOBO position isn't as obsolete as you are making it. Offering it to a young up n' comer would be a better move than an assistant he is giving a pity offer to. That's not to say that there isn't something to be said for loyalty but this is a business and regardless of the restrictions on DOBO's they are AC's in waiting and contribute behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 28, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.

But you should. As we all know too well, those are the guys that often move up into AC positions on the staff when another AC leaves.

Weber has had plenty of chances to make him an AC in the past month, and yet, he hasn't.  But he has offered him a DOBO position.

Why would that change in the future if he's not making that concession for an unemployed Price now when he has an open spot to fill?

Look, I get it. My point was that, in general, the DOBO position isn't as obsolete as you are making it. Offering it to a young up n' comer would be a better move than an assistant he is giving a pity offer to. That's not to say that there isn't something to be said for loyalty but this is a business and regardless of the restrictions on DOBO's they are AC's in waiting and contribute behind the scenes.

KU had Barry Hinson (sp?).

So, it's not always for up and comers.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
Price as Director of Basketball Operations. It's a good deal for us, keep him the eff away from recruiting.

From what I understand Price hasn't accepted the position yet so we may dodge a bullet if he's really as cancerous as he's rumored to be.

He was offered the position almost immediately after Weber was hired and it's been, what, 3 weeks now and he hasn't made a decision??

I think it's a positive that even after all that's gone on in the asst. coaching search, Price is still not getting a spot other than DOBO.

I'm fine with him as DOBO.  I could care less who that is.

But you should. As we all know too well, those are the guys that often move up into AC positions on the staff when another AC leaves.

Weber has had plenty of chances to make him an AC in the past month, and yet, he hasn't.  But he has offered him a DOBO position.

Why would that change in the future if he's not making that concession for an unemployed Price now when he has an open spot to fill?

Look, I get it. My point was that, in general, the DOBO position isn't as obsolete as you are making it. Offering it to a young up n' comer would be a better move than an assistant he is giving a pity offer to. That's not to say that there isn't something to be said for loyalty but this is a business and regardless of the restrictions on DOBO's they are AC's in waiting and contribute behind the scenes.

KU had Barry Hinson (sp?).

So, it's not always for up and comers.

Agreed, but a lot of times it is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 28, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
KU also had Mario Chalmers and Mannings' dads as DOBOs.  Its a rough ridin' worthless position as a former truck driver can do it well enough to assist in a NC season.  I'd rather we give it to someone's dad or coach or something but I guess they're cracking down on that crap now.  Regardless, if Weber wants to give Price the job for  year or two I couldn't care less.  As was previously posted, Bubbles could have given him an AC job but chose to give him the DOBO spot.  :meh:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 28, 2012, 06:57:51 PM
KU also had Mario Chalmers and Mannings' dads as DOBOs.  Its a rough ridin' worthless position as a former truck driver can do it well enough to assist in a NC season.  I'd rather we give it to someone's dad or coach or something but I guess they're cracking down on that crap now.  Regardless, if Weber wants to give Price the job for  year or two I couldn't care less.  As was previously posted, Bubbles could have given him an AC job but chose to give him the DOBO spot.  :meh:

You can't be serious... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
KU also had Mario Chalmers and Mannings' dads as DOBOs.  Its a rough ridin' worthless position as a former truck driver can do it well enough to assist in a NC season.  I'd rather we give it to someone's dad or coach or something but I guess they're cracking down on that crap now.  Regardless, if Weber wants to give Price the job for  year or two I couldn't care less.  As was previously posted, Bubbles could have given him an AC job but chose to give him the DOBO spot. 

You can't be serious... :facepalm:

Yeah, ncaa made a rule about that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 29, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
I heard we hired another assistant.  Yay!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 29, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
I heard we hired another assistant.  Yay!

Any name associated to what you heard? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 29, 2012, 10:26:01 PM
I heard we hired another assistant.  Yay!

Any name associated to what you heard? :popcorn:

Of course
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 29, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
I heard we hired another assistant.  Yay!

Any name associated to what you heard? :popcorn:

Of course

Whew!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 30, 2012, 08:58:44 AM
So, whatever happened with Zeigler?  Where did he end up landing?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 30, 2012, 09:22:23 AM
KU also had Mario Chalmers and Mannings' dads as DOBOs.  Its a rough ridin' worthless position as a former truck driver can do it well enough to assist in a NC season.  I'd rather we give it to someone's dad or coach or something but I guess they're cracking down on that crap now.  Regardless, if Weber wants to give Price the job for  year or two I couldn't care less.  As was previously posted, Bubbles could have given him an AC job but chose to give him the DOBO spot. 

You can't be serious... :facepalm:

Yeah, ncaa made a rule about that.
The rule cracks down on former coaches, from my understanding.  Theres still loopholes to give it to some guy who organized an AAU team, as long as he was not the coach
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 30, 2012, 10:41:27 AM
KU also had Mario Chalmers and Mannings' dads as DOBOs.  Its a rough ridin' worthless position as a former truck driver can do it well enough to assist in a NC season.  I'd rather we give it to someone's dad or coach or something but I guess they're cracking down on that crap now.  Regardless, if Weber wants to give Price the job for  year or two I couldn't care less.  As was previously posted, Bubbles could have given him an AC job but chose to give him the DOBO spot. 

You can't be serious... :facepalm:

Yeah, ncaa made a rule about that.
The rule cracks down on former coaches, from my understanding.  Theres still loopholes to give it to some guy who organized an AAU team, as long as he was not the coach

Sure, but it's frowned upon (and not likely to fly with an AD like JC...)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
Al150k
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on April 30, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
Al150k

Brooks III? Salary?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 02, 2012, 07:59:20 AM
Ok, so to get back on topic. Heard from a pretty reliable source that Price is out as DOBO and rumored Video Coordinator Brad Korn is in. So that leaves 3rd Assistant and VC position open. We're getting somewhere people!!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 02, 2012, 10:34:13 AM
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2012/05/02/a-few-minutes-with-alvin-brooks-iii/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 02, 2012, 11:30:21 AM
Ok, so to get back on topic. Heard from a pretty reliable source that Price is out as DOBO and rumored Video Coordinator Brad Korn is in. So that leaves 3rd Assistant and VC position open. We're getting somewhere people!!


The thing with this coaching search is that exactly the opposite of everything I want to occur has actually occurred.

Hopefully oscar is better at winning basketball games.




Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 02, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
Ok, so to get back on topic. Heard from a pretty reliable source that Price is out as DOBO and rumored Video Coordinator Brad Korn is in. So that leaves 3rd Assistant and VC position open. We're getting somewhere people!!


The thing with this coaching search is that exactly the opposite of everything I want to occur has actually occurred.

Hopefully oscar is better at winning basketball games.

Just curious...what did you want to happen?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
oh man, mods move this to the butthurt thread.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/18924270/hokies-hire-latest-reminder-that-schools-need-to-be-realistic-with-coaching-search
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on May 02, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Is anyone concerned that there is just flat out no word on movement for this last AC job?  Not even a Doug Gotlieb rumor for the butthurt to rally around.  Seems a bit strange but not sure if its a good strange or a bad strange. 
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 02, 2012, 01:32:46 PM
Is anyone concerned that there is just flat out no word on movement for this last AC job?  Not even a Doug Gotlieb rumor for the butthurt to rally around.  Seems a bit strange but not sure if its a good strange or a bad strange. 
 :dubious:

People are too tired and depressed to start rumors that, frankly, no one would believe at this point anyway.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 02, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
Is anyone concerned that there is just flat out no word on movement for this last AC job?  Not even a Doug Gotlieb rumor for the butthurt to rally around.  Seems a bit strange but not sure if its a good strange or a bad strange. 
 :dubious:

People are too tired and depressed to start rumors that, frankly, no one would believe at this point anyway.

pretty impressive really. currie managed to kill basketball in exactly one month.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 02, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 02, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 02, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 02, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?

My statement wasn't an attack on you. It was a general observations that fan loyalty is also fragile...so many eager to step off the ledge before we've even played a season with the new staff. That's all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 8manpick on May 02, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?

My statement wasn't an attack on you. It was a general observations that fan loyalty is also fragile...so many eager to step off the ledge before we've even played a season with the new staff. That's all.

Forget ledges, we just got rough ridin' thrown out of an airplane without a parachute. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 02, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
seems really old for a young "up-and-comer".

http://thegamedaynetwork.com/?p=3477
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 02, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
 :rolleyes:
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

 :rolleyes: A little dramatic don't you think?

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?

My statement wasn't an attack on you. It was a general observations that fan loyalty is also fragile...so many eager to step off the ledge before we've even played a season with the new staff. That's all.

Forget ledges, we just got rough ridin' thrown out of an airplane without a parachute.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on May 02, 2012, 07:08:13 PM
Hubert Davis just got hired at UNC and we can't give Gottlieb a rough ridin' call???
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 02, 2012, 07:10:09 PM
Hubert Davis just got hired at UNC and we can't give Gottlieb a rough ridin' call???

Too risky.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on May 02, 2012, 08:05:01 PM
Hubert Davis just got hired at UNC and we can't give Gottlieb a rough ridin' call???

Almost went a whole day without any butthurt.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on May 02, 2012, 09:03:08 PM
Maybe you did.

Not this guy.

#teamHORNS
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2012, 07:53:08 AM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?

wow. just wow.  ppowercat1 (with only one queso jar) just destroyed cns brain surgery  :lol: 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 03, 2012, 08:11:21 AM
I talked to Hurbert Davis for a bit in NOLA, nice guy.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 03, 2012, 08:52:18 AM
Success is a fragile thing, rick.

So is loyalty apparently....

Loyalty to who?  KSU, Currie, Frank, Fans?  Who?  Who is failing who here?

wow. just wow.  ppowercat1 (with only one queso jar) just destroyed cns brain surgery  :lol:

Posting one handed(other hand in grey matter) leaves a guy open sometimes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on May 03, 2012, 12:27:16 PM
Hubert Davis just got hired at UNC and we can't give Gottlieb a rough ridin' call???

Almost went a whole day without any butthurt.
no butthurt here, I really did not enjoy him on tv.  Hopefully Doug gets his spot on college gameday.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: joda on May 03, 2012, 11:49:25 PM
So is Weber actaully going to finish hiring a staff sometime or does he just plan on waiting until next season starts then putting an ad in the paper for out of work coaches and seeing who shows up?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 04, 2012, 06:55:49 AM
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2012, 07:07:36 AM
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

you would think....but he's failed at it so far
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on May 04, 2012, 07:23:05 AM
hot butthurt topic update:  butthurt over lack of a finalized staff is all the rage right now. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 04, 2012, 07:26:07 AM
seems really old for a young "up-and-comer".

http://thegamedaynetwork.com/?p=3477

Is 32 old for an "up and comer"?   :confused:

I don't get hiring the we should have hired the youngest guy possible butthurt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 04, 2012, 07:27:04 AM
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

you would think....but he's failed at it so far

His daughter's wedding is this weekend. I doubt we'll hear anything until next week. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that he has two interviews scheduled next week. This search has been relatively quiet.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on May 04, 2012, 07:27:40 AM
So is Weber actaully going to finish hiring a staff sometime or does he just plan on waiting until next season starts then putting an ad in the paper for out of work coaches and seeing who shows up?

The last that I read was that he was down to two guys but wouldn't do the interviews until next week.  So I wouldn't expect any news to break today or over the weekend.   :dubious:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 04, 2012, 07:29:59 AM
If you go to Cold Stone Creamery and only two attendants are working do you have to shut the doors? 

The answer is an emphatic NO.  You just roll up your sleeves and work harder and hope that a lot of people aren't really hungry for ice cream.

Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2012, 07:38:49 AM
seems really old for a young "up-and-comer".

http://thegamedaynetwork.com/?p=3477

Is 32 old for an "up and comer"?   :confused:

I don't get hiring the we should have hired the youngest guy possible butthurt

He looks older than 32.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on May 04, 2012, 07:39:15 AM
i don't know about you guys, but i sure will sleep better at night once this third assistant is hired.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2012, 09:14:52 AM
i don't know about you guys, but i sure will sleep better at night once this third assistant is hired.

Especially if it's a great hire. And it might be! Who knows?!?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on May 04, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
USBL legend

#Gottlieb4KSU
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 04, 2012, 10:14:42 AM
Man, this Alvin Brooks III.  Seriously, where in the f*ck did we find this guy?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: fr@ck me on May 04, 2012, 10:34:29 AM
Man, this Alvin Brooks III.  Seriously, where in the f*ck did we find this guy?  :facepalm:

Sam Houston State...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2012, 10:40:01 AM
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

you would think....but he's failed at it so far

His daughter's wedding is this weekend. I doubt we'll hear anything until next week. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that he has two interviews scheduled next week. This search has been relatively quiet.

 http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2608  (http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2608)

Korn set to join staff

Weber expects Brad Korn, a former player and assistant coach at Southern Illinois, to join his staff in the as Director of Basketball Operations.

“It looks like it will be Brad Korn,” Weber said. “We brought him in for administrative position."

Korn has served as an assistant with the Salukis since 2006, where he worked under current K-State associate head coach Chris Lowery. He played for Weber at SIU.

Weber has one assistant coach opening remaining on his staff. He said he has two candidates in mind for the position, but will likely wait until next week to begin the interview process.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 04, 2012, 10:49:06 AM
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

you would think....but he's failed at it so far

His daughter's wedding is this weekend. I doubt we'll hear anything until next week. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that he has two interviews scheduled next week. This search has been relatively quiet.

 http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2608  (http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2608)

Korn set to join staff

Weber expects Brad Korn, a former player and assistant coach at Southern Illinois, to join his staff in the as Director of Basketball Operations.

“It looks like it will be Brad Korn,” Weber said. “We brought him in for administrative position."

Korn has served as an assistant with the Salukis since 2006, where he worked under current K-State associate head coach Chris Lowery. He played for Weber at SIU.

Weber has one assistant coach opening remaining on his staff. He said he has two candidates in mind for the position, but will likely wait until next week to begin the interview process.


The mid-major transformation is nearly complete.

I like oscar's recipe he's got cooking.  Build up a championship caliber BCS program atmosphere by acting as small time, and hiring as many small time people from small time programs as possible!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 04, 2012, 05:57:33 PM
Hopefully we're gonna get a guy out of a Juco no one has ever heard of, ya know, the Underwood route.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: IlliniTillIDie on May 05, 2012, 02:45:57 AM
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 05, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well.

Just out of curiosity...and a little queasiness and terror...Why? Insight please.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 05, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well.

In oscar's defense, our AD is a cheap ass, so I'm guessing he can only reach out to people on the bottom of his list because that's all we'll pay for.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on May 05, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
to be fair to oscar, and in his defense, not many people want to work for the nazis in this day and age.  at least not at a school like kansas state.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: IlliniTillIDie on May 06, 2012, 08:03:18 PM
Powercat, oscar Weber was a disaster at Illinois.  Everybody knows it but nobody will say it (not in the press at least).  He greatly regressed as a coach while at Illinois.  I think the problem is that his recruiting initially was just embarrassing.  He went after and lost point guards like Austin Jackson, Sherron Collins, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose and probably others.  He always used excuses like nobody wants to sit behind Dee and Deron and some of those players were bought and paid for but his recruiting was beyond awful the first three years.

At that point we knew he would probably fail.  And rather than accept this and try to do the best with what he had, oscar had to make it so it was not his fault.  He always made excuses but in his head he was responsible for getting us to the title game.  His ego and head grew three sizes.  He could not accept that maybe he wasn't the reason we made the title game.  He insulted our program, bragging about how he used to beat us when he was at Purdue (as an assistant).  He insulted the fans when they would criticize him on really obvious issues.  He dug his heels in and refused to eat a slice of humble pie. At the height of his hypocracy he spent years ripping the players claiming if you tell them to do things and they don't do it there is nothing a coach can do.  But he still bragged about getting to the title game because it was the furthest we had ever gotten.  Which one is it oscar?  You can't blame the kids when you lose but brag about your coaching when you win.

The worst part of it all was the lack of discipline for his team.  Luther Head allegedly walked into an unlocked apartment with a couple friends and took stuff.  Luther got a slap on the wrist. I somewhat understand at least nobody was hurt.  But then Jamar Smith gets drunk crashes his car and leaves teammate Brian Carlwell for dead.  Carlwell suffered a life threatening concussion and was probably never the same.  And yet Jamar stayed on the team.  How can a coach justify that?  What does it take to get thrown off of oscar Weber's team?

The chemistry issues continued.  Shaun Pruitt was a dick and a selfish teammate.  He thought he was an NBA lottery pick.  Weber kept him on the team despite putrid chemistry.  Not coincidentally Pruitt was cut and sent home by his first professional team after graduating for acting like a clown.  It's what most coaches would have done (I hope Shaun has gotten it together).

This past season we had another delusional players Brandon Paul act out because of the attention a legit NBA prospect Meyers Leonard was getting.  oscar had no way to control it. 

For the past 6 years I can say only a couple players have improved on oscar Weber's watch.

His eye for talent is just awful.  He passedon Lewis Jackson and even worse Robbie Hummul (a U of I legacy oscar Weber told was not Big Ten caliber.) You know about Jacob Pullen.  He also let Pargo and others slip away.  He recruited to unathletic and slow guys in Mike Tisdale and Bill Cole to have big roles in our offense because they were tremendous set shooters.  But they were awful atmost everything else.

All the while oscar kept throwing his players under the bus.  All the while he ran the same predictable offense that tesms knew was coming (but which he claimed was unstoppable).  We had games earlier this year when Weber never tried to post his NBA bound 7 footer. 

At this point Weber has no credibilty in the recruiting/coaching world right now.  Look at the top 100 talent that does not improve.  Look at Jerome Richmond's career.  Look at how his assistants at Illinois couldn't find head coaching jobs since Chris Lowery years and years ago.  Look at how McClain and Price two assistants last year cannot find basketball employment.  What coach in his right mind would trust Weber with his career?  Look at the comment Weber told the paper about Jay Price needing to figure out if he is staying a basketball coach.  That comment killed what little career Jay Price had left.

Just remember that oscar Weber ran a clown show at Illinois.  He should have been fired three years ago.  And whatever he says ...don't buy it.  Meyers Leonard will go first round but oscar had nothing to do with it.  Meyers improved leaps and bounds after playing for Coach K last summer.  If Weber had fed him the ball enough he would have gone lottery

Remember Weber has friends in coaching but talk is cheap. Is Weber winning games lately?  Are his players improving?  I hope your sports writers do better calling out the truth than ours did.

Good luck to you guys.  Your coach is toxic within the profession.  I'll be rooting for you guys in football and for you to get a respectable coach sooner than later.  I hope he doesn't last 9 years in Manhattan as he did at Illinois.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SdK on May 06, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 06, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.

Yeah, either Illinois has the loseriest dorkstore fans or this is a sock with way too much rough ridin' time on his hands.

Have fun with Jim Gross you sham of a never was program. Weber took you further than you've ever been and ever will go. Go spend 2000 words validating your fire on orangeni or whatever.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 06, 2012, 10:31:37 PM
Powercat, oscar Weber was a disaster at Illinois.  Everybody knows it but nobody will say it (not in the press at least).  He greatly regressed as a coach while at Illinois.  I think the problem is that his recruiting initially was just embarrassing.  He went after and lost point guards like Austin Jackson, Sherron Collins, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose and probably others.  He always used excuses like nobody wants to sit behind Dee and Deron and some of those players were bought and paid for but his recruiting was beyond awful the first three years.

At that point we knew he would probably fail.  And rather than accept this and try to do the best with what he had, oscar had to make it so it was not his fault.  He always made excuses but in his head he was responsible for getting us to the title game.  His ego and head grew three sizes.  He could not accept that maybe he wasn't the reason we made the title game.  He insulted our program, bragging about how he used to beat us when he was at Purdue (as an assistant).  He insulted the fans when they would criticize him on really obvious issues.  He dug his heels in and refused to eat a slice of humble pie. At the height of his hypocracy he spent years ripping the players claiming if you tell them to do things and they don't do it there is nothing a coach can do.  But he still bragged about getting to the title game because it was the furthest we had ever gotten.  Which one is it oscar?  You can't blame the kids when you lose but brag about your coaching when you win.

The worst part of it all was the lack of discipline for his team.  Luther Head allegedly walked into an unlocked apartment with a couple friends and took stuff.  Luther got a slap on the wrist. I somewhat understand at least nobody was hurt.  But then Jamar Smith gets drunk crashes his car and leaves teammate Brian Carlwell for dead.  Carlwell suffered a life threatening concussion and was probably never the same.  And yet Jamar stayed on the team.  How can a coach justify that?  What does it take to get thrown off of oscar Weber's team?

The chemistry issues continued.  Shaun Pruitt was a dick and a selfish teammate.  He thought he was an NBA lottery pick.  Weber kept him on the team despite putrid chemistry.  Not coincidentally Pruitt was cut and sent home by his first professional team after graduating for acting like a clown.  It's what most coaches would have done (I hope Shaun has gotten it together).

This past season we had another delusional players Brandon Paul act out because of the attention a legit NBA prospect Meyers Leonard was getting.  oscar had no way to control it. 

For the past 6 years I can say only a couple players have improved on oscar Weber's watch.

His eye for talent is just awful.  He passedon Lewis Jackson and even worse Robbie Hummul (a U of I legacy oscar Weber told was not Big Ten caliber.) You know about Jacob Pullen.  He also let Pargo and others slip away.  He recruited to unathletic and slow guys in Mike Tisdale and Bill Cole to have big roles in our offense because they were tremendous set shooters.  But they were awful atmost everything else.

All the while oscar kept throwing his players under the bus.  All the while he ran the same predictable offense that tesms knew was coming (but which he claimed was unstoppable).  We had games earlier this year when Weber never tried to post his NBA bound 7 footer. 

At this point Weber has no credibilty in the recruiting/coaching world right now.  Look at the top 100 talent that does not improve.  Look at Jerome Richmond's career.  Look at how his assistants at Illinois couldn't find head coaching jobs since Chris Lowery years and years ago.  Look at how McClain and Price two assistants last year cannot find basketball employment.  What coach in his right mind would trust Weber with his career?  Look at the comment Weber told the paper about Jay Price needing to figure out if he is staying a basketball coach.  That comment killed what little career Jay Price had left.

Just remember that oscar Weber ran a clown show at Illinois.  He should have been fired three years ago.  And whatever he says ...don't buy it.  Meyers Leonard will go first round but oscar had nothing to do with it.  Meyers improved leaps and bounds after playing for Coach K last summer.  If Weber had fed him the ball enough he would have gone lottery

Remember Weber has friends in coaching but talk is cheap. Is Weber winning games lately?  Are his players improving?  I hope your sports writers do better calling out the truth than ours did.

Good luck to you guys.  Your coach is toxic within the profession.  I'll be rooting for you guys in football and for you to get a respectable coach sooner than later.  I hope he doesn't last 9 years in Manhattan as he did at Illinois.

DID NOT READ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on May 06, 2012, 10:39:16 PM
good info, itd.  it sounds like weber's problems largely stem from poor talent evaluation and the nazi ideology.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on May 07, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
[oscar Weber sucks, etc.]

Guys, do you think that maybe JugofSnyder got confused when he was talking to his "sources" and they were really talking about oscar but he assumed they were talking about Frank?  I mean, you know what they say about assuming...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 09:20:09 AM
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 07, 2012, 09:22:02 AM
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

Yeah, how long until a Help Wanted ad hits the papers? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 07, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

Yeah, how long until a Help Wanted ad hits the papers?

I've stopped caring at this point.  Whoever they line up for the fourth spot is going to be a complete no-name anyhow.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 07, 2012, 09:36:09 AM
Hey man, it takes time to go through Frank's files on USBL legends, fired DOBO's and NJCAA Div II assistants.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 09:45:46 AM
What website was it where Basketball Ops people put up requests for scheduling?  I wouldn't be shocked if we had a banner ad up there
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 07, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
HELP WANTED:

Assistant Mens Basketball Coach

 - Must be alive
 - must be blue collar
 - must be willing to say yes if offered position
 - cannot be lactose intolerant
 - contacts to mediocre high school/aau talent preferred

Submit resumes via Western Union or directly to Athletic Dept.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on May 07, 2012, 09:58:16 AM
Hey man, it takes time to go through Frank's files on USBL legends, fired DOBO's and NJCAA Div II assistants.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 07, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

I'd be more upset if the first two guys were really bad.

Lowery and AB3 aren't that bad, though.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 07, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
You know as #TeamButtHurt continues to show tremendous staying power, I once again lament the fact that oscar Weber has hired a former Division 1 head coach, a sitting D1 assistant . . . as an assistant etc. etc. 

Because #TeamButtHurt would have gone ThermoNuclear over a:

-Fired DOBO

-USBL Legend with seemingly no collegiate coaching experience at all. 

-No where Junior College Assistant Coach.

But #TeamButtHurt won't let that stop them.  In fact, Frank walked into a self made staff . . . based on anyone he hired after that, dang, I can't imagine what kind of rocks Frank would have been over turning having to hire a staff from scratch.  Needless to say, some Brown-Mackie assistant would be getting a major pay raise.



Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 07, 2012, 11:20:10 AM
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.

Yeah, either Illinois has the loseriest dorkstore fans or this is a sock with way too much rough ridin' time on his hands.

Have fun with Jim Gross you sham of a never was program. Weber took you further than you've ever been and ever will go. Go spend 2000 words validating your fire on orangeni or whatever.

It's my sock.  Every now and then I like to fill it up with a nice steamy man oyster of thoughts and fling it at you guys.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 07, 2012, 11:25:30 AM
I'm Butthurt because the only way Weber is going to succeed in Manhattan is if he can recruit talent.

And the two recruiters with a proven reputation that were to join the staff, we lost out on to basketball powers SMU and LSU.

That's just me, though. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 07, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
I'm Butthurt because the only way Weber is going to succeed in Manhattan is if he can recruit talent.

And the two recruiters with a proven reputation that were to join the staff, we lost out on to basketball powers SMU and LSU.

That's just me, though.

In retrospect, I was much more upset about Forrest than Howard.

I get Howard going to SMU to coach under Brown.  If it's true that we just didn't want to pay Forrest enough, yeah, that makes me pretty angry.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 07, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
good info, itd.  it sounds like weber's problems largely stem from poor talent evaluation and the nazi ideology.

You know at the nazi camps when they'd made the jews run to see who was healthy and then they'd kill the ones that weren't healthy? I bet Weber was really bad at judging who was healthy.
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 12:02:45 PM
Hey man, it takes time to go through Frank's files on USBL legends, fired DOBO's and NJCAA Div II assistants.

what on earth
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on May 07, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
cRustyMichButtHurt

:love:
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 12:27:29 PM
Well that's probably a good point cRustyMichButtHurt.

Who did Frank actually have to go out and hire? 

Evans, anybody else . . . the names are so unimpressive I just can't remember.

But you're just making crap up.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
I think there is a big difference in hiring a whole new staff and plugging a hole in a staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2012, 12:46:50 PM
looks like the much anticipated cRustyMichButtHurt v. dax throw down has finally arrived

cRustyMichButtHurt claiming dax is fabricating events, how does dax respond to cRustyMichButtHurt?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
dax responds by spitting multiple factoids right into cRustyMichButtHurt's facial cranium zone 
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 01:08:12 PM
Oh, okay, so Evans, Figgers, Assaley and Underwood and company have some sort of super secret but highly impressive resume/bio's out there then.

Evans had not one seconds worth of Division 1 coaching experience prior to being brought in by Frank as as graduate assistant. 

Underwood was hired by Huggins, his previous coaching extent was 2 Juco's and Western Illinois.

Figger started out at basketball titan South Alabama, and was canned with the rest of the staff at Arkansas where he was the DOBO . . . great run Pelphrey and company had there.

Assaley was a gofor for Huggins.

Figger left Arkansas before Pelphrey coached a game there. Even if he hadn't left that early, I don't know why it should prevent someone for criticizing Weber's staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
cRustyMichButtHurt surprisingly returns for another salvo of daxwiches  :excited:

how will this end?  who will concede? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 07, 2012, 01:15:08 PM
I'm pretty butthurt over the strength and conditioning tool we hired compared to Greenawalt.  Add that to the heap.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 01:45:06 PM
I think if you want to compare staff to staff completely out of context, Dax has a point.  But there is context and we were successful with Frank, so he gets more of a pass
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 01:50:40 PM
Everyone knows that #teambutthurt stands at the Pulpit of the Church of Frankite as they criticize Weber's staff.  Criticize all you want, just admit where you're coming from when you do it.

Everyone that Frank hired or promoted was a collection of nobodies in relative terms.

That's true, but Frank rough ridin' had Dalonte Bagman Hill on his initial staff which gives him a pass on the other coaches at the times they were hired. If Weber had landed Howard, or even Forrest, no one would be criticizing this staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 07, 2012, 01:54:06 PM
Everyone knows that #teambutthurt stands at the Pulpit of the Church of Frankite as they criticize Weber's staff.  Criticize all you want, just admit where you're coming from when you do it.

Everyone that Frank hired or promoted was a collection of nobodies in relative terms.

That's true, but Frank rough ridin' had Dalonte Bagman Hill on his initial staff which gives him a pass on the other coaches at the times they were hired. If Weber had landed Howard, or even Forrest, no one would be criticizing this staff.

Yet we all know what happened there, and Frank replaced Dalonte Hill with .  .  . ??

While it would never have happened, because Frank himself was a nobody without Bob Huggins, but the thought of Frank Martin having to build an entire staff from scratch is absolutely horrifying to contemplate.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Yet we all know what happened there, and Frank replaced Dalonte Hill with .  .  . ??

Again, the remaining staff had proven itself to be successful, so it's fine taking a risk. (And the risk appeared to be paying off.)


While it would never have happened, because Frank himself was a nobody without Bob Huggins, but the thought of Frank Martin having to build an entire staff from scratch is absolutely horrifying to contemplate.

who gives a crap?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 02:08:47 PM
The remaining staff had no horsepower to overcome the bridges being burned IMO. 

:jerk:

Craps are given because #teambutthurt forgets how Frank got set up early and often.

Yeah, none of us remember the circumstances that led to him getting hired you moron.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
The current staff being equal to or less than as bad as the most recent staff that Frank had should not listed as a positive for Weber.  Overall, if you looked at Frank’s initial staff vs. Weber’s initial staff, Frank’s wins every day of the week and twice on Sundays, even if it’s just because of ‘Te. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
nobody has revised crap
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2012, 02:19:47 PM
The current staff being equal to or less than as bad as the most recent staff that Frank had should not listed as a positive for Weber.  Overall, if you looked at Frank’s initial staff vs. Weber’s initial staff, Frank’s wins every day of the week and twice on Sundays, even if it’s just because of ‘Te. 

i think what you meant to say was that nothing should be listed as a positive for weber.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 07, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
nobody has revised crap

Uh-huh  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on May 07, 2012, 02:28:22 PM
Any word on the two interviews that are supposed to take place this week?  Any insight on who they might be? :popcorn:

P.S.  If there is no word, can somone make something interesting up?  At least until there is some real news breaks.   

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 07, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
This isn't the same since pissclams quit narrating it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 07, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.

Let's be real here, Te chose $400K.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yosh on May 07, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
Any word on the two interviews that are supposed to take place this week?  Any insight on who they might be? :popcorn:

P.S.  If there is no word, can somone make something interesting up?  At least until there is some real news breaks.   



I'll make something up:

The two guys he is going to interview this week are oscar Shingler and Mo Hicks. 

Most know oscar as the former DCA alum/coach and K-State Admin Asstiant, who left to lead Beasley's entourage and is now an assistant at Morgan State.

Hicks is the former Rice/Gouchos coach who sent several players to K-State including current players Southwell and JO.  He is currently working on the St Johns staff along side Weber mentor and K-State alum Gene Keady.  He's DOBO there becuase you can't hire a standing AAU coach and have them recruit right away, but I'm not sure that applies if he's hired away, or how long he has left.

Curtis Kelly says "why not?"   :ck:
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 07, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.

Let's be real here, Te chose $400K.

Weber could do something similar if he wanted. In a way, overpaying for Lowery was kind of similar
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.

Let's be real here, Te chose $400K.

True, but did huggs offer him 400k to leave for WVU?  That's actually another reason that Frank should get credit for 'Te.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 07, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Oh and Zacker . . . Frank didn't hire his initial staff, except for one guy . . . the list of nobodies is hard to keep track of. 

We can disagree, but I give credit to Frank for keeping ‘Te.  He hired him.  ‘Te had the option of KSU or West Virginia and chose Frank.

Let's be real here, Te chose $400K.

True, but did huggs offer him 400k to leave for WVU?  That's actually another reason that Frank should get credit for 'Te.

or why the AD at the time should get credit. either way, it was a pretty freaking outstanding steal and something that current admin and staff could never pull off in a million years.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 07, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
Yeah, it was a steal for awhile, but then rapidly distentigrated into TeNearly$500K with virtually nothing in the pipeline to show for it . . . so don't be a dumbass and think that Oliver Luck or any other AD isn't going to look at the payroll number and then the recruiting pipeline and ask why the eff they're paying some assistant nearly $500K to recruit no one.

Posted with no spell check so eff it.

Te$1M would have been worth it. He brought Michael Beasley to Kansas State. No other head coach or assistant could have done that.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
Yeah, it was a steal for awhile, but then rapidly distentigrated into TeNearly$500K with virtually nothing in the pipeline to show for it . . . so don't be a dumbass and think that Oliver Luck or any other AD isn't going to look at the payroll number and then the recruiting pipeline and ask why the eff they're paying some assistant nearly $500K to recruit no one.

Posted with no spell check so eff it.

when 'Te would have left, the pipeline was flowing. no one knew that bell and beasley would fallout and make malone mad.  'Te wasn't producing after Wally and Gruds.  I wasn't sad when he left.  Frank's staff at the end is just as bad as the staff weber has assembled, imo.  oscar's is possibly marginally better.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on May 07, 2012, 04:03:22 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slimz on May 07, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
I think it's pretty impressive that a national-championship caliber coach with 14 years' D-I head coaching experience, multiple conference titles, and the accolades from fellow coaches that Weber has received over the past month can manage to mostly-assemble a coaching staff in a month's time that is equal to or a bit better than the staff assembled by a high school coach who abused his players.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2012, 04:15:13 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 07, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
I didn't even realize he had the second DUI.  Maryland has a decent class coming in, though I don't know who Hill was responsible for.  Maybe 4* and 3* out of Mass
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on May 07, 2012, 04:22:48 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2012, 04:35:44 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on May 07, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on May 07, 2012, 05:07:56 PM
Chris Lowery:
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just got done talking with B-More's finest -LOL!!!!!

So oscar Shingler is in town for a Interview???  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 07, 2012, 05:22:31 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?

Somewhere our lines got crossed, I wasn't referring to the current staff either.  I was simply stating that Hill is through as an elite recruiter and giving my reasons for the opinion.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on May 07, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
Yea, 'te was done. Really wish we would have found a way to reinvest that money though

Franked killed 'te pipeline with his temper. oscar would open it right back up.

I think a number of things killed that pipeline, but Franks temper is part of it.  Maryland is where 'Te is probably best lined up for success, though. If he can't bring them in there, he is in trouble

He's in trouble.  He should have been fired after that second DUI.  He's damaged now, he's got red flags and is a sitting target to other recruiters.  Also the DCA thing is far from resolved.

Frank blew up on Malone because he wasn't getting a chance to recruit the better DCA players because they were going to duke, same thing that happened with Mo-Kan. There could be an issue with Malone and Currie, but if that is the case Shingler wouldn't get hired so it is a mute point.

I was referring more to the unresolved issues that has or may eventually arise from Bell v. Beasley

I don't think much animosity from DCA would would be placed on K-state new staff regardless of what materialize from the Beasley vs Bell situation if where hired another one of their Alumni to a major coaching job again.

Also what happened with Malone assault charges, would if be a good thing for emaw if he ins't in charge of DCA anymore?

Somewhere our lines got crossed, I wasn't referring to the current staff either.  I was simply stating that Hill is through as an elite recruiter and giving my reasons for the opinion.

Agree, that is solid reasoning.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on May 07, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
This isn't the same since pissclams quit narrating it.

Insert "butthurt" every 5th word if it makes you feel better.  All he has done for the past few weeks is play butthurt police.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on May 07, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
This isn't the same since pissclams quit narrating it.

Insert "butthurt" every 5th word if it makes you feel better.  All he has done for the past few weeks is play butthurt police.
it was never by choice
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 08, 2012, 12:18:15 AM
this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.

I'm not even going to get into the severity of what DUIs are and aren't, but getting two when you're rich and in the position he's in, is incredibly poor judgment at best and is absolutely open to scrutiny when he's walking into the living rooms of 16 year olds and their family pitching themselves.  I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 08, 2012, 08:59:44 AM

I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?


 :surprised:   :jerk:

But yeah, I imagine part of the recruiting message is instilling some level of discipline, responsibility, and accountability.  Coming from a guy with 2 DUIs, the message rings a bit hollow. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 08, 2012, 10:05:47 AM
this country's witchhunty hard-on for dui's is rough ridin' ridiculous and a social cancer.  eff mothers.

I'm not even going to get into the severity of what DUIs are and aren't, but getting two when you're rich and in the position he's in, is incredibly poor judgment at best and is absolutely open to scrutiny when he's walking into the living rooms of 16 year olds and their family pitching themselves.  I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?

If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 08, 2012, 11:12:47 AM

I happen to think masterbaiting isn't a big deal, should it not be brought up if I got caught doing it in public, twice?


 :surprised:   :jerk:

But yeah, I imagine part of the recruiting message is instilling some level of discipline, responsibility, and accountability.  Coming from a guy with 2 DUIs, the message rings a bit hollow.

exactly
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on May 08, 2012, 10:12:51 PM
If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 08, 2012, 10:23:42 PM
If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

I agree with sys for two reasons:

A. My doing so immediately undermines him
B. The consequences associated with not hurting somebody while driving with a bac of .08 or higher are draconian and asinine when compared to the consequences for driving into someone and killing them while just being an inattentive moron.




Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 09, 2012, 12:22:02 AM
If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

I agree with sys for two reasons:

A. My doing so immediately undermines him
B. The consequences associated with not hurting somebody while driving with a bac of .08 or higher are draconian and asinine when compared to the consequences for driving into someone and killing them while just being an inattentive moron.

You can acknowledge the seriousness of drunk driving yet at the same time admonish the random and nonsensical nature of DUI enforcement and traffic violations in general.

Anyway as far as Hill goes, none of that is important, its an issue solely of awful judgment.  He's aware of how society views drunk driving and he's aware of what public image he needs to portray to be an effective recruiter, yet he seemingly doesn't care enough to get rough ridin' car service.  He's made nearly 2 million dollars in the last 5 years of his life, there are no credible excuses.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 09, 2012, 08:00:57 AM
If it (dui) didn't (often) kill people, it probably wouldn't be such a big deal.

speeding kills people, but somehow we deal with it with a small fine and society doesn't come unraveled.  not to mention that we consider ourselves capable of distinguishing between the relative elevated risks involved of doing 150 in a 30 zone and doing 59 in a 55.

I agree with sys for two reasons:

A. My doing so immediately undermines him
B. The consequences associated with not hurting somebody while driving with a bac of .08 or higher are draconian and asinine when compared to the consequences for driving into someone and killing them while just being an inattentive moron.

You can acknowledge the seriousness of drunk driving yet at the same time admonish the random and nonsensical nature of DUI enforcement and traffic violations in general.

Anyway as far as Hill goes, none of that is important, its an issue solely of awful judgment.  He's aware of how society views drunk driving and he's aware of what public image he needs to portray to be an effective recruiter, yet he seemingly doesn't care enough to get rough ridin' car service.  He's made nearly 2 million dollars in the last 5 years of his life, there are no credible excuses.

Agree with MIR here.

And I don't disagree with sys' point about relative elevated risks.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 09, 2012, 09:01:19 AM
Talk about a tangent.  You gotta be pretty hard up for bbsing material when you take up the pro drunk driving talk point. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on May 09, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
Talk about a tangent.  You gotta be pretty hard up for bbsing material when you take up the pro drunk driving talk point.

This!
Title: Re: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2012, 12:52:38 PM
Talk about a tangent.  You gotta be pretty hard up for bbsing material when you take up the pro drunk driving talk point.

This!

Good god, why do you feel the need to be the assistant coach rumor thread team mom?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
So, I take it we are so dried up on coaching leads and rumors that we've resorted to all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Anybody? Anything? News on Assistant #3?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 09, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
So, I take it we are so dried up on coaching leads and rumors that we've resorted to all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Anybody? Anything? News on Assistant #3?

Whoever it is, he's been allowed to recruit without restrictions for a LONG time.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 09, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
rumors that currie might have cut the assistant #3 position due to budget concerns. clams thinks it was the fiscally responsible thing to do and has no issues with it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:15:21 PM
So, I take it we are so dried up on coaching leads and rumors that we've resorted to all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Anybody? Anything? News on Assistant #3?

Whoever it is, he's been allowed to recruit without restrictions for a LONG time.

Probably not far from the truth...I will say this though...my money is not on an Anthony Beane or oscar Shingler. I think he'll go after a young white guy. He's not going to want to alienate the athletic white kids that he goes after. We make this argument that we need these recruiters to be out there "relating" to these athletes. He already has two strong black recruiters....just a thought.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
So, I take it we are so dried up on coaching leads and rumors that we've resorted to all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Anybody? Anything? News on Assistant #3?

Whoever it is, he's been allowed to recruit without restrictions for a LONG time.

Probably not far from the truth...I will say this though...my money is not on an Anthony Beane or oscar Shingler. I think he'll go after a young white guy. He's not going to want to alienate the athletic white kids that he goes after. We make this argument that we need these recruiters to be out there "relating" to these athletes. He already has two strong black recruiters....just a thought.

Korn is young, extremely white, and even a ginger.  He has that part of the spectrum locked up.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:21:19 PM
So, I take it we are so dried up on coaching leads and rumors that we've resorted to all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^? Anybody? Anything? News on Assistant #3?

Whoever it is, he's been allowed to recruit without restrictions for a LONG time.

Probably not far from the truth...I will say this though...my money is not on an Anthony Beane or oscar Shingler. I think he'll go after a young white guy. He's not going to want to alienate the athletic white kids that he goes after. We make this argument that we need these recruiters to be out there "relating" to these athletes. He already has two strong black recruiters....just a thought.

Korn is young, extremely white, and even a ginger.  He has that part of the spectrum locked up.

As far as I know Korn is just the DOBO, not an assistant therefore not allowed to recruit or build substantial relationships with these athletes until they've already started at K-State....not gonna help obtain these kids on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2012, 01:23:44 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2012, 01:24:49 PM
Oh man, I thought he was kidding.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:30:24 PM
Kidding about what?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on May 09, 2012, 01:35:45 PM
What is wrong with you PPowercat1?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 09, 2012, 01:37:01 PM
WTF
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 09, 2012, 01:39:23 PM
Well.

I suppose its good to see this thread got back to the topic of assistant coaches.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
 :opcat: :clac:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:43:35 PM
What is wrong with you PPowercat1?

Being realistic. If you knew anything about recruiting.....and especially if you want to recruit in states like KS (where the talent is limited but maybe you want to bring in a K-state kids, who do you have on the staff to relate to them?? BW alone? A 50 something white guy? On the surface that may sound harsh but name 5 HM programs out there that have all black assistants...do you really think that's a coincidence?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2012, 01:45:06 PM
What is wrong with you PPowercat1?

Being realistic. If you knew anything about recruiting.....and especially if you want to recruit in states like KS (where the talent is limited but maybe you want to bring in a K-state kids, who do you have on the staff to relate to them?? BW alone? A 50 something white guy? On the surface that may sound harsh but name 5 HM programs out there that have all black assistants...do you really think that's a coincidence?
Off the top of my head: Georgetown.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
What is wrong with you PPowercat1?

Being realistic. If you knew anything about recruiting.....and especially if you want to recruit in states like KS (where the talent is limited but maybe you want to bring in a K-state kids, who do you have on the staff to relate to them?? BW alone? A 50 something white guy? On the surface that may sound harsh but name 5 HM programs out there that have all black assistants...do you really think that's a coincidence?
Off the top of my head: Georgetown.

NOPE
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2012, 01:48:32 PM
Hey 3/4 ain't bad though. :FootTappingGuy:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Well, considering the "hooded" personal message I just received, atleast one of you misinterpreted what I was trying to say. I'm NOT saying that this is how coaching and recruiting "should" be and I certainly did not say that is how I "want" it to be. I was simply pointing out the way it IS. Having a family member in the business, it is a reality in the way recruiting these kids works. So, please, no more "hoods" in my inbox.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
what in the world.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2012, 02:02:51 PM
Well, considering the "hooded" personal message I just received, atleast one of you misinterpreted what I was trying to say. I'm NOT saying that this is how coaching and recruiting "should" be and I certainly did not say that is how I "want" it to be. I was simply pointing out the way it IS. Having a family member in the business, it is a reality in the way recruiting these kids works. So, please, no more "hoods" in my inbox.
:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
Having a family member in the business

PPowercat0?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 02:14:03 PM
Having a family member in the business

PPowercat0?

PPowercat2.0
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
Having a family member in the business

PPowercat0?

PPowercat2.0

:opcat:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 02:17:18 PM
I can take it...if that's what makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on May 09, 2012, 02:21:50 PM
I can take it...if that's what makes you feel better.
:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
rumors that currie might have cut the assistant #3 position due to budget concerns. clams thinks it was the fiscally responsible thing to do and has no issues with it.

#butthurt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 09, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
rumors that currie might have cut the assistant #3 position due to budget concerns. clams thinks it was the fiscally responsible thing to do and has no issues with it.

#butthurt


salaries for coaches were simply unsustainable at kansas state. sorry if you don't get it. you seem lost.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMXDPl.gif&hash=930ebebe1ab8d96dcc791427ac156ed8780fbb4a)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: puniraptor on May 09, 2012, 03:24:51 PM
kstate ties. darren kent. rumor.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
kstate ties. darren kent. rumor.

He too is going to S.C.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 09, 2012, 03:44:20 PM
why are you so racist?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: puniraptor on May 09, 2012, 03:45:27 PM
Justin williams. rumor. not white.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 03:55:39 PM
why are you so racist?

How is that racist? You obviously didn't read my previous post...."I'm NOT saying that this is how coaching and recruiting "should" be and I certainly did not say that is how I "want" it to be. I was simply pointing out the way it IS."

Again, name 5 High Major schools where this is the case and I'll eat my words.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on May 09, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
Just when I get to thinking that goEMAW is a bastion of progressive thought on the topic of race, then PPowercat1 comes along. This is all just...sad...really...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 04:01:53 PM
Just when I get to thinking that goEMAW is a bastion of progressive thought on the topic of race, then PPowercat1 comes along. This is all just...sad...really...

Obviously it's the coaching world that is lacking progressive thought...not me. You're going to blast me for pointing out a reality? That's fine. But atleast admit to yourself that this IS the reality within these programs. Again "I'm NOT saying that this is how coaching and recruiting "should" be and I certainly did not say that is how I "want" it to be. I was simply pointing out the way it IS."
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on May 09, 2012, 04:08:56 PM
an entire paragraph of racism that i didn't read like the last page of this thread

Mods, do we really need this type of disgusting, vile material on here? tia
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 09, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Just when I get to thinking that goEMAW is a bastion of progressive thought on the topic of race, then PPowercat1 comes along. This is all just...sad...really...

Obviously it's the coaching world that is lacking progressive thought...not me. You're going to blast me for pointing out a reality? That's fine. But atleast admit to yourself that this IS the reality within these programs. Again "I'm NOT saying that this is how coaching and recruiting "should" be and I certainly did not say that is how I "want" it to be. I was simply pointing out the way it IS."

It IS that way because of bigoted people like you.  You and your good old boy networking.  Keepin the white man employed at any cost.  rough ridin' makes me want to rough ridin' puke.   :barf: :opcat:  Shame on you. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on May 09, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
You can't spell PPowercat1 without opcat.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
Ok. I can see that I've upset a number of you. It was not my intention to start a big convo about race...in such a negative way. I didn't mean to imply that I agree with the way things are in coaching, only to point out my guess as to who the 3rd assistant would be on this staff based on the trend across the country in HM basketball programs. That obviously touched a nerve. I can assure you that I am not a racist and the fact that it is still such a sensitive subject that we can not even talk about this reality like adults shows that indeed, we have not moved past it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2012, 04:43:36 PM
I hate to chime in on this, but all I know is oscar weber won't find ANYONE whiter or more midwestern-y than him. so he might as well just go for another black guy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2012, 04:44:48 PM
I hate to chime in on this, but all I know is oscar weber won't find ANYONE whiter or more midwestern-y than him. so he might as well just go for another black guy.

why get a black guy and not a asian dude?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2012, 04:45:51 PM
The last 3 pages or so of this thread belong in the Dunning-Kruger Dome.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 09, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
Hire the best effing candidate. Period.

If Weber's mind is really focused on "I need a white guy for this final spot" and not on "I need to find the most QUALIFIED candidate to help this program win as many as games possible" then we might as well just flush this crap right now.

If the most qualified candidate happens to be a white guy, so be it, sign him up.

I really don't give a crap about the racial makeup of staffs at other programs.

We're K-State. If you haven't noticed, we need all the damn help we can get. We should hire the best candidate available regardless of ethnicity.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 09, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
You can't spell PPowercat1 without opcat.
  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 09, 2012, 05:18:39 PM
I hate to chime in on this, but all I know is oscar weber won't find ANYONE whiter or more midwestern-y than him. so he might as well just go for another black guy.

why get a black guy and not a asian dude?

asian guy would also work.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 09, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
I hate to chime in on this, but all I know is oscar weber won't find ANYONE whiter or more midwestern-y than him. so he might as well just go for another black guy.

why get a black guy and not a asian dude?

asian guy would also work.

Linpak'r
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SdK on May 09, 2012, 05:41:49 PM
Hey PP,

I don't want any white players on our team. They suck. I don't want them. You say we need a white coach to relate to players? What the eff does that even mean? I can only assume you believe only white players can relate to white coaches. You think we need more white players? Why?

Arguing that successful programs have at least one white coach? There is no rough ridin' correlation. It's a bullshit argument to hide behind and in no way makes you less :opcat:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PPowercat1 on May 09, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
Hey PP,

I don't want any white players on our team. They suck. I don't want them. You say we need a white coach to relate to players? What the eff does that even mean? I can only assume you believe only white players can relate to white coaches. You think we need more white players? Why?

Arguing that successful programs have at least one white coach? There is no rough ridin' correlation. It's a bullshit argument to hide behind and in no way makes you less :opcat:

All right, let's just get everything out in the open. But first let me answer your questions. Not all white athletes suck, not all black athletes are good....but the majority of these HM teams are made up of some pretty bad ass black athletes who tend to be recruited by and trust other black men they can relate to....hence the reason HM programs like to have bad ass black recruiters on their staff. Why would it be any different for a white athlete? Ask any HM coach....any LM or JC coach for that matter. Further, no, I did not say we need more white players. Great players (black, white, asian, hispanic and everything in between...just great players). Do you not think that it was a coincidence that we have had more hispanic players on our team these last five years than in past history because they were recruited by a coach that they could relate to at their home away from home (k-State)?

Obviously, you all want to take what I've stated and use it spew your own agendas and call me a racist and a bigot...when in truth you don't know anything about me (which isn't fair.) So here is the truth. The reason I know these things to be a reality in coaching is because I'm married to a coach (in a lower capacity than a HM school like K-State...and he is black...and he will tell you the same things I have just said.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on May 09, 2012, 06:35:35 PM
a screed that belongs on stormfront.org

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtN5Rn.gif&hash=e23cf8bbab71060d340e9cc6ba0aebaffb10ac06)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on May 10, 2012, 12:45:12 PM
i called it, the racist is a black woman
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 10, 2012, 01:07:49 PM
i called it, the racist is a black woman

Racist and misandrist I bet. :shakesfist:  Hating people based on the color of their penis is not cool.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on May 10, 2012, 01:44:24 PM
i called it, the racist is a black woman

Racist and misandrist I bet. :shakesfist:  Hating people based on the color of their penis is not cool.
Agreed. You can hate on the size, but not the color. So wrong. :nono:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on May 10, 2012, 02:20:54 PM
I thought there were going to be a couple of interviews this week? WTF? I am sure someone can tell me of another situation where it took so long to assemble a coaching staff, so please do. This is effing stupid.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: beefpac on May 10, 2012, 04:38:31 PM
I thought there were going to be a couple of interviews this week? WTF? I am sure someone can tell me of another situation where it took so long to assemble a coaching staff, so please do. This is effing stupid.

Is Pioli running the show?  If not, I bet he is sitting in his office giving the slow clap to Currie and Weber.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SuperG on May 11, 2012, 03:35:52 AM
It's only fitting that FSD started this piece of crap thread about this piece of crap staff and that it's still going. Piece of crap.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 11, 2012, 09:58:12 AM
frank mumped us so hard in coaching circles that no one wants to touch coaching jobs under currie
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: D-tron on May 11, 2012, 12:43:04 PM
frank mumped us so hard in coaching circles that no one wants to touch coaching jobs under currie

Frank effed us or Currie effed us?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 11, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
frank mumped us so hard in coaching circles that no one wants to touch coaching jobs under currie

Frank effed us or Currie effed us?
Both, but mainly Frank.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: slobber on May 11, 2012, 01:17:24 PM
frank mumped us so hard in coaching circles that no one wants to touch coaching jobs under currie

Frank effed us or Currie effed us?
Both, but mainly Frank.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 11, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
frank mumped us so hard in coaching circles that no one wants to touch coaching jobs under currie

Frank effed us or Currie effed us?

what are you insinuating d-tron?  let's cut to the chase here, nothing bugs me more than some butthurt frankite slanging wild accusations without substance.  we need substance, here's your chance.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fuktard on May 15, 2012, 10:56:50 AM
"We're puttin' the band back together"...."Yeah"...."We're on a mission from God"
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Unruly on May 15, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/051512aaa.html



Well there ya go.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2012, 03:57:54 PM
Still missing an AC, right?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 8manpick on May 15, 2012, 04:08:10 PM
Still missing an AC, right?

Nope, in tough economic times, Johnny C. has decided to forgo the third AC.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2012, 02:41:29 PM
Quote
oscar Shingler (Morgan State assistant) was offered the developmental position that was once held by Doug Edwards at K-State. He declined the offer.

He's a finalist for a full-time assistant job at another low major (Towson).


I'm shocked Currie signed off on even offering whatever the eff a "developmental position" is to oscar
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from:  some GPC guy
Chester Frazier will be our next assistant. Already accepted. Playing in Germany and as soon as his season is over he will be announced which is soon. Good ties to Baltimore area/aau. East coast ties. Was weber's video coordinator for two years at Illinois.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
I really like the Chester Frazier hire if true.  Young.  ND Prep.  Looks like this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3551%2F4561677270_fbdc78bfee_z.jpg&hash=6af3d86db1bb683270e189248bf651abf54cbc8d)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 16, 2012, 02:52:30 PM
Holy crap!  :excited: :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 16, 2012, 03:10:06 PM
from april...

Quote
Former Illini guard Chester Frazier helped check on Kansas State guard Rodney McGruder’s status with the team before Weber moved on the job. McGruder is a returning third-team all-Big 12 pick from Washington, D.C.

http://www.sj-r.com/blogs/illinitalk/x383285274/An-allowance-the-Masters-and-Chester-Frazier
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on May 16, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
Him playing in Germany now tells me that there was literally no one in the USA that would take the job.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 16, 2012, 03:32:02 PM
He's a family man.  F.O.E.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 16, 2012, 03:37:42 PM
cassidy says its official.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 16, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
cassidy says its official.

if you want to start the official welcome thread, i can't wait to post in it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 16, 2012, 03:45:58 PM
cassidy says its official.

if you want to start the official welcome thread, i can't wait to post in it.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=21128.0
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 16, 2012, 04:58:19 PM
best hire by far
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2012, 05:44:45 PM
Adoracats took a huge stride today
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 16, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
I like this hire.  He'll be great with the mothers of our recruits.


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on May 16, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Good hire
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: sys on May 16, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
Him playing in Germany now tells me that there was literally no one in the USA that would take the job.

i think you know what it says about them both.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 17, 2012, 09:16:47 AM
Chet is rough ridin' awesome.  He was a warrior as a player, plus he's from Baltimore.  Outside of Howard at Illinois, probably the best AC hire Weber has ever made.  That he went with Frazier and not Jay Price is a very good sign for KSU. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2012, 09:19:55 AM
Chet is rough ridin' awesome.  He was a warrior as a player, plus he's from Baltimore.  Outside of Howard at Illinois, probably the best AC hire Weber has ever made.  That he went with Frazier and not Jay Price is a very good sign for KSU.

I appreciate that I can call him Chet.  Reminds me of Weird Science. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on May 17, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
Him playing in Germany now tells me that there was literally no one in the USA that would take the job.

i think you know what it says about them both.

It's a bit misleading.  Chet actually consumes racism as a form of sustenance.  Nazi hatred only makes his powers grow.  That's why he and Weber make such a great team.  It's symbiotic. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 17, 2012, 12:52:38 PM
Chet is rough ridin' awesome.  He was a warrior as a player, plus he's from Baltimore.  Outside of Howard at Illinois, probably the best AC hire Weber has ever made.  That he went with Frazier and not Jay Price is a very good sign for KSU. 

I appreciate some honest positive comments from an Illinois fan.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 17, 2012, 01:39:15 PM
Chet is rough ridin' awesome.  He was a warrior as a player, plus he's from Baltimore.  Outside of Howard at Illinois, probably the best AC hire Weber has ever made.  That he went with Frazier and not Jay Price is a very good sign for KSU.

 :thumbs:

The fact that he took a hard line on Price makes me somewhat optimistic.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on June 26, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
@AdamZagoria:
Quote
Former Texas standout Terrence Rencher has been named an assistant men's basketball coach at Sam Houston State University

We looked at this guy :barf:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 12:48:14 PM
This thread is a good read. Rumors that is going to start back up....
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: bones129 on March 13, 2015, 12:53:59 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 12:58:06 PM
:zzz:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2015, 01:07:12 PM
Ugh
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:11:14 PM
can they not fit Lowry through the door into Bramlage anymore?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 01:13:55 PM
Hopeful guess: We're replacing Price as S&C coach

Realistic guess: We're replacing Alvin Brooks
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: AppleJack on March 13, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
Darren Kent for S&C
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 13, 2015, 01:26:39 PM
Darren Kent for S&C

Literally anybody for S&C.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:28:59 PM
what's the deal with blaming the S&C guy?  I feel like wanting the S&C guy gone is just a passive aggressive shot at wanting oscar gone.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 13, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
Obviously we were spoiled with Greenawalt but we have been lacking in the S&C department, as was Illinois when oscar was there with whatever his name is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 13, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.

It's unenjoyable watching a bad basketball team be out of shape and generally much wimpier looking than the other team. I don't think being in better shape or stronger would make us a ton better at basketball, but it'd be one less thing to feel bad about.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Katpappy on March 13, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 13, 2015, 01:42:43 PM
Can confirm that Price is a bit of a nut job.  He has the WWE wrestler type of personality. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 13, 2015, 01:47:14 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

Lots of our fans blamed '04 and '05 on Rod Cole's antiquated S&C program.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference.  Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06.  I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking?  It was just Dawson leaving?  Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected.  Direct it entirely towards oscar.  oscar is the reason.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Katpappy on March 13, 2015, 01:58:50 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference.  Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06.  I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking?  It was just Dawson leaving?  Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected.  Direct it entirely towards oscar.  oscar is the reason.
Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on March 13, 2015, 02:02:34 PM
The way I understand it, the coaches let the S&C guy know what they want guys to be like and then S&C designs systems for them.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on March 13, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
We used to do a lot more photo ops/instagram propaganda with bball players doing insane workouts.  We don't do those any more.  This is the only metric through which I evaluate our S&C.  I've thought the football S&C has sucked since we stopped oiling up dudes barechested for the Powercat Lift records poster.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 02:04:27 PM
Hopeful guess: We're replacing Price as S&C coach

Realistic guess: We're replacing Alvin Brooks

I think we should hope for both. Brooks had the TCU scouts this year, assuming tech also. I know that is a big jump in logic, but in the last two years he has only landed xWhomper for Texas. That is what he was brought in for. Having a bad offseason has a lot to do with the S & C conditioning coach. I don't think their is a single element of his job he has done well.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 02:08:41 PM
Brooks is pretty much the only reason we have Foster, right?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 02:11:15 PM
Brooks is pretty much the only reason we have Foster, right?

Lead recruiter, but I don't think he did anything special to land him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pvegs on March 13, 2015, 02:24:49 PM
Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 03:55:13 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference.  Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06.  I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking?  It was just Dawson leaving?  Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected.  Direct it entirely towards oscar.  oscar is the reason.
Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence.

And Cole was here when we went from a Conference Championship to last in the worst big 12 north division, like, twice.  And Dawson was at KU when they had crap seasons. 

It's oscar.  Not Price.  If we want to solve the problem about why the players aren't tough or whatever, then fire oscar.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 13, 2015, 04:02:26 PM
Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.

QFT.   Firing one of those types of guys is such a pathetic effort.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 04:02:55 PM
I dunno.  Greenwalt was great and everything – but he’s at SoCar right now, not sure if he’s the secret elixsor.  IIRC, Prince’s S&C guy got blamed for a lot of stuff too.  And KU’s S&C guy, who we have now, is apparently why KSU football is good and KU is awful.
We never blamed KU's S&C guy.  He was the reason the Fat Man took their team to the Orange bowl.  It was a blessing, since our good S&C guy left for A&M years ago.

KU went to the Orange Bowl because they had good players and a good coaching staff and never had to play anyone except MU (which they lost). KSU wins because of the same thing, except it doesn't/can't duck anyone in conference.  Dawson was still there when Mangino got fired after collapsing in 2009. Dawson was there when KU wasn't really good in 02, 04, 06.  I mean, you think Gill had nothing to do with KU sucking?  It was just Dawson leaving?  Price was there for oscar's entire tenure at Illinois, including the really successful ones at the beginning. The S&C hate is misdirected.  Direct it entirely towards oscar.  oscar is the reason.
Both Cole and Dawson won national awards for S&C excellence.

And Cole was here when we went from a Conference Championship to last in the worst big 12 north division, like, twice.  And Dawson was at KU when they had crap seasons. 

It's oscar.  Not Price.  If we want to solve the problem about why the players aren't tough or whatever, then fire oscar.  Problem solved.

It is fair to stay that not all S&C coaches are equal quality. oscar is not getting fired, if he believes that the S&C coach has been sub-par he should replace him. It isn't like there is just one problem.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2015, 04:06:03 PM
there actually is just one problem.  You idiots that mention the S&C guy or an assistant…I mean, that narrative ….that brucexcuses narrative is how it starts.  Fire the assistants? And bring in who?  Someone who’ll bring in a freshman who’ll make 2nd team All Big 12?  Well, we had that.  Jesus.  It’s oscar.  Don’t make brucexcuses for him.  He makes enough already.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PIPE on March 13, 2015, 04:14:33 PM
Arguing about whether we should fire S&C coaches or 4th string asst coaches is really sad. Makes me hate oscar all the more.

No joke.......the whole freakin coaching staff should be feeling their a**'s on fire from the scalding flames from the HOT SEAT!!!!!!!!!!! :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2015, 04:17:40 PM
The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 04:18:35 PM
 :Wha:
there actually is just one problem.  You idiots that mention the S&C guy or an assistant…I mean, that narrative ….that brucexcuses narrative is how it starts.  Fire the assistants? And bring in who?  Someone who’ll bring in a freshman who’ll make 2nd team All Big 12?  Well, we had that.  Jesus.  It’s oscar.  Don’t make brucexcuses for him.  He makes enough already.

Making a coaching change would be the farthest thing away from an excuse.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2015, 04:21:02 PM
Also, if a coach is just leaving, who cares. It happens all the time in coaching.

I think people would only really care one way or another if oscar is firing someone, which really doesn't make sense at this point.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2015, 04:23:19 PM
We need to hire a steroid sales consultant as our S&C
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pvegs on March 13, 2015, 04:33:23 PM
The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.

Everyone is saying this. He either succeeds or fails next year and everything else is part of the oscar Excuse Train.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2015, 04:38:34 PM
The only reason to get rid of a coach now is if you can bring in another one that comes with a couple 4 stars. Otherwise it's just masking the symptoms.

Everyone is saying this. He either succeeds or fails next year and everything else is part of the oscar Excuse Train.

He can change all assists out and no one will take another year of crap because of it. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 04:47:17 PM
Who has Lowery recruited? If any assistant should be fired, it's him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 13, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
Who has Lowery recruited? If any assistant should be fired, it's him.
Malek, DJamer, Hurt and Wade.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2015, 05:00:49 PM
Who has Lowery recruited? If any assistant should be fired, it's him.
Malek, DJamer, Hurt and Wade.

:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
there actually is just one problem.  You idiots that mention the S&C guy or an assistant…I mean, that narrative ….that brucexcuses narrative is how it starts.  Fire the assistants? And bring in who?  Someone who’ll bring in a freshman who’ll make 2nd team All Big 12?  Well, we had that.  Jesus.  It’s oscar.  Don’t make brucexcuses for him.  He makes enough already.

I want to be very clear that I'm not passively aggressively wanting oscar gone.  I've been very vocal about wanting him gone.

I just think removing Price is low hanging fruit, especially because the team seemed unable to physically handle Big 12 play.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 13, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Also, if a coach is just leaving, who cares. It happens all the time in coaching.

I think people would only really care one way or another if oscar is firing someone, which really doesn't make sense at this point.

oscar firing someone signals that he's probably feeling the heat to make a change.

Which, honestly, would be a positive development because it means we care enough to tell him to shake things up or he's next.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on March 13, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Also, if a coach is just leaving, who cares. It happens all the time in coaching.

I think people would only really care one way or another if oscar is firing someone, which really doesn't make sense at this point.

oscar firing someone signals that he's probably feeling the heat to make a change.

Which, honestly, would be a positive development because it means we care enough to tell him to shake things up or he's next.

Or it's him proactively scapegoating, not that he needs to.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
Also, if a coach is just leaving, who cares. It happens all the time in coaching.

I think people would only really care one way or another if oscar is firing someone, which really doesn't make sense at this point.

oscar firing someone signals that he's probably feeling the heat to make a change.

Which, honestly, would be a positive development because it means we care enough to tell him to shake things up or he's next.

His seat is ice cold.  It might heat up slightly next year if we miss NCAA again. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 13, 2015, 06:31:22 PM
If next yr I'd like this yr, the following yr will see hardly any ticket sales and bargain basement prices.

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 13, 2015, 06:53:58 PM
His seat is ice cold.  It might heat up slightly next year if we miss NCAA again. 

While it oscar's seat may not be really warm, Currie has to be looking at the situation with caution because of how everything transpired. A down year where you lose a bunch of people and are truly rebuilding is one thing, but if anything that was last year and oscar handled it well. The turmoil of this year is a different matter and if there is a repeat next year oscar will be in serious trouble IMO.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
If his 16-17 campaign doesn't result in a tournament appearance after 2 back to back non ncaa seasons I could see him being fired.  Right now he is :sleepykitten:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 13, 2015, 07:20:27 PM
that dipshit will schedule his way to the NIT or whatever next year and all will be cool and the gang.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 14, 2015, 09:13:36 PM
This thread is a good read. Rumors that is going to start back up....

I can't believe I started this thread. I have no rough ridin' clue who our assistants are ever.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on January 19, 2018, 12:16:40 PM
Welp, it appears that the infamous K-State sports coverage "cone of silence" has solidly been implemented, preventing any and all basketball related news from being reported with the exception of the Manhattan Mercury.

I realize FITZ and staff are sitting on this info, but it's perplexing that there isn't anything credible whatsoever pertaining to the final two staff members and the timeline?

In other news, D_Scott broke the story that Sean Lowe is a contestant on The Bachelorette.

Sean Lowe on Billion Dollar Buyer.  Where does it end?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on January 19, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
his wife has a collar and leash on the poor bastard.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: renocat on January 19, 2018, 01:06:29 PM
Whisker, please explain more.fully.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 19, 2018, 01:20:05 PM
Whisker, please explain more.fully.

He is commenting on America's favorite former bachelor and EMAW Stud Sean Lowe. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on January 19, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
apparently married some dominatrix on some reality show then she drags him thru a cuckolding segment on Billionaire Buyer (CNBC) where Tilman Feritita makes them both wealthy beyond their wildest dreams by purchasing $21,000 worth of overpriced stationary from her company.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: renocat on January 19, 2018, 06:07:52 PM
We need an assistant coach who can recruit good big men and coach them up.  Cornboy is not getting the job done
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 19, 2018, 07:29:10 PM
apparently married some dominatrix on some reality show then she drags him thru a cuckolding segment on Billionaire Buyer (CNBC) where Tilman Feritita makes them both wealthy beyond their wildest dreams by purchasing $21,000 worth of overpriced stationary from her company.

i like you, weird guy
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 07:55:57 AM
current rumblings:

Ulric Maligi from Texas  :love:
Jareem Dowling from UNT  :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2022, 08:41:17 AM
current rumblings:

Ulric Maligi from Texas  :love:
Jareem Dowling from UNT  :love:

might want to proofread that tweet but those hashtags :love:

https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1506007877693030400
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2022, 08:57:53 AM
#everylittletangwillbealright

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 23, 2022, 09:23:45 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 23, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
I don't know any of these shootyball coaches, but i'm pumped you guys are excited about them being potential Cat coaches.   :Woot:

Also, do you think Real or Fake Sugardick is still around/alive? I wonder what he is up to? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 09:47:46 AM
there were some people suggesting Ulric as a head coach candidate due to his recruiting prowess.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 10:25:25 AM
Should be public what his staff looks like by Friday I think.  New additions to the roster and departures to follow quickly after.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 23, 2022, 10:59:44 AM
current rumblings:

Ulric Maligi from Texas  :love:
Jareem Dowling from UNT  :love:

might want to proofread that tweet but those hashtags :love:

https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1506007877693030400

i think married is the correct verb for the officiant performing the marriage of two people  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 11:00:21 AM
I don't know any of these shootyball coaches, but i'm pumped you guys are excited about them being potential Cat coaches.   :Woot:

Also, do you think Real or Fake Sugardick is still around/alive? I wonder what he is up to?

Looking at their bios we should REALLY pray for Ulric, he’s a home run
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 23, 2022, 11:36:27 AM
#everylittletangwillbealright

 :dubious:

Elite Bob Marley - Three Little Birds reference
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 23, 2022, 11:36:52 AM
Hear Ulric is all but a done deal  :emawkid:
we gonna get some dudes dudes
corvette corvette
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2022, 12:02:44 PM
Hear Ulric is all but a done deal  :emawkid:
we gonna get some dudes dudes
corvette corvette
Just saw he was an assistant Beard brought over from Tech. That would be such an elite steal for us.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 12:28:00 PM
I don't know any of these shootyball coaches, but i'm pumped you guys are excited about them being potential Cat coaches.   :Woot:

Also, do you think Real or Fake Sugardick is still around/alive? I wonder what he is up to?

Looking at their bios we should REALLY pray for Ulric, he’s a home run

We may not win at an elite level but it won’t be because we don’t have good players. That part seems pretty clear now.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: DQ12 on March 23, 2022, 01:01:49 PM
Ulric, Jareem...who will be number three?  My best guess:

BRAD KORN
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on March 23, 2022, 01:17:56 PM
Ulric  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 23, 2022, 01:22:17 PM
Ulric, Jareem...who will be number three?  My best guess:

BRAD KORN
probably steal someone from ku
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 23, 2022, 01:45:01 PM
does popovich retire and come to ksu to recruit under JT?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 02:07:19 PM
current rumblings:

Ulric Maligi from Texas  :love:
Jareem Dowling from UNT  :love:

might want to proofread that tweet but those hashtags :love:

https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1506007877693030400

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 02:09:47 PM
"that married me" i think
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 02:14:04 PM
Tang is a minister. Maybe he thinks Virgin Islander means something else?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: tdaver on March 23, 2022, 02:23:59 PM
https://baylorbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/aditya-malhotra/1761

https://alcornsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/marco-borne/424

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 23, 2022, 02:35:44 PM
https://baylorbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/aditya-malhotra/1761

https://alcornsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/marco-borne/424


might as well snag alvin brooks if we are going to take someone from baylor
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2022, 02:38:07 PM
Tang is a minister. Maybe he thinks Virgin Islander means something else?
It reads as if Tang got married to him and also got married to his wife. I know what he meant lol
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 03:09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1506724082049593352?s=20&t=p8yXHhph3YLlblvUaBHZbg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2022, 03:12:35 PM
#everylittletangwillbealright

 :dubious:

Elite Bob Marley - Three Little Birds reference
LOL it's close at least!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2022, 03:16:22 PM
:Wha:

https://twitter.com/InsideTexas/status/1506725154423988230

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 03:18:31 PM
guys
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 03:24:34 PM
https://youtu.be/BtEjqIaiX-o?t=755
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2022, 03:25:54 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Tobias on March 23, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
haven’t felt these feels in a while
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 03:28:00 PM
:Wha:

https://twitter.com/InsideTexas/status/1506725154423988230
Beat me to it!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 03:29:22 PM
If you've already signed with a team for 2022, can you be released from it? Because:

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2022-Basketball/Commits/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2022, 03:30:52 PM
We are going to get so many dudes and kick so much ass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
This is the greatest day in Kansas state basketball history
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 23, 2022, 03:36:14 PM
New GRCOAT incoming? Likely.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 03:38:00 PM
Good god Jerome Tang has brought a huge wave of old posters back, this is amazing.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
I made the argument so many times in recent years that we needed someone who knew how to build a program. Never in my wildest fantasy did I envision this.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 23, 2022, 03:39:00 PM
I have no idea who that guy is either, but I'm very excited that you guys are really excited.  :billdance: I might watch a bit of hoops again next year.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: AppleJack on March 23, 2022, 03:39:26 PM
I'm excited.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 03:39:32 PM
poaching top assistants from texas like wtf is happening
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 23, 2022, 03:39:58 PM
he was making $400,000 at texas fwiw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on March 23, 2022, 03:40:30 PM
I made the argument so many times in recent years that we needed someone who knew how to build a program. Never in my wildest fantasy did I envision this.

Yeah, I don't think any of us expected elite level stuff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 23, 2022, 03:43:20 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 03:44:27 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

Pretty smart for job security
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 23, 2022, 03:46:05 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

Pretty smart for job security

And for just overall kicking ass, taking names and having fun
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 03:46:56 PM
I'm excited.
Hi AJ! How are you today?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 03:47:24 PM
This for real couldn’t have gone any better so far besides grcoat (which didn’t fully pan out either). Grcoat was just silly though, beas/walker/mayo/pope + 4 star scraps.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: AppleJack on March 23, 2022, 03:48:27 PM
I'm excited.
Hi AJ! How are you today?

Strong to quite strong.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 23, 2022, 03:50:26 PM
I completely forgot the name herb pope. Decided to see what he’s up to.  :frown:

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2019/05/15/herb-pope-basketball-bank-robbery-sentenced-aliquippa/stories/201905150103
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2022, 03:50:40 PM
I am 100% in support of all of this, but do we have any reports of dudes yet?  I don't know that we do.  We have a lot of reason for recruiting optimism, and that alone is more than what we have had since Frank left.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2022, 03:51:51 PM
I mean, we have zero ms paint photoshops of lasers eyes or anything at this point. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 23, 2022, 03:52:08 PM
oscar was such a massive comedown after the amazingness of the Huggie/Frank years.  Even when they were good, the excitement level just wasn't the same.  I'm ready to have fun again.  I'm ready to be angry again.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 03:54:39 PM
Dowling… should we be excited? Talk to me
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 23, 2022, 03:56:11 PM
poaching top assistants from texas like wtf is happening

Promotion to associate head coach a big deal!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
Dowling… should we be excited? Talk to me

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbQ0SAZLQ91/?

I found the answer.

(Does Instagram not work around here)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2022, 04:00:40 PM
What a time to be Cats fan
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2022, 04:25:36 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

hoping the savings is for overpaying his Delonte for some alleged funnel action like the alleged old days, allegedly.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2022, 04:33:10 PM
Dude probably wanted to work with a coach who didn't run off the players he worked so hard to recruit.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 23, 2022, 04:43:58 PM
oscar was such a massive comedown after the amazingness of the Huggie/Frank years.  Even when they were good, the excitement level just wasn't the same.  I'm ready to have fun again.  I'm ready to be angry again.
This brings up something I was thinking about earlier. How can Cat fans be "The Angriest in America" when Coach Tang seems so happy all the time?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2022, 04:48:43 PM
oscar was such a massive comedown after the amazingness of the Huggie/Frank years.  Even when they were good, the excitement level just wasn't the same.  I'm ready to have fun again.  I'm ready to be angry again.
This brings up something I was thinking about earlier. How can Cat fans be "The Angriest in America" when Coach Tang seems so happy all the time?
What if instead KSU fans pivot to be the most unsettling polite fan base. I think teams would have just as tough a time playing in an arena full of chick fil a employees yelling at the top of their lungs “DO YOUR BEST” and “GIVE GOD THE GLORY”
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2022, 05:24:21 PM
The humblest fan base in America.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on March 23, 2022, 05:26:06 PM
The humblest fan base in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIpbYyR0OOI&ab_channel=thelonelyisland
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on March 23, 2022, 05:26:36 PM
This is insane, never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2022, 05:48:57 PM
I think we are going to beat everyone's asses often enough that we will be able to stand up and give a standing applause to the teams that manage to keep the score within 10 points as they walk off the court.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 05:57:23 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

Yea for sure this is what he did.  He also knows when he puts together a string of really solid years in the first part of his contract he’s going to get a fat raise and extension.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2022, 06:09:56 PM
This is insane, never seen anything like it.

Quick point of parliamentary procedure here....we have indeed seen way better as a matter of fact.  Having said that, we will allow this to proceed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 23, 2022, 07:44:12 PM
I'm so excited and I really don't even like basketball.  :driving:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: purplehaze on March 23, 2022, 07:57:32 PM
This is insane, never seen anything like it.

Quick point of parliamentary procedure here....we have indeed seen way better as a matter of fact.  Having said that, we will allow this to proceed.

I mean it's debatable, which is insane. Tang is exciting but these assistant pulls are beyond elite.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2022, 08:38:07 PM
No team has ever been assembled (any sport) with a group of coaches this elite. WOW!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2022, 08:41:42 PM
I would also like to applaud our main guy Kurtz for this

https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1506803933204959234
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on March 23, 2022, 08:44:48 PM
This is insane, never seen anything like it.

Quick point of parliamentary procedure here....we have indeed seen way better as a matter of fact.  Having said that, we will allow this to proceed.

I mean it's debatable, which is insane. Tang is exciting but these assistant pulls are beyond elite.

When Huggins was hired it was crazy we were getting Bill Walker. Then when Dalonte was hired and we all knew we were getting Beasley.... :bball:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on March 23, 2022, 09:29:20 PM
I’m 100% back as a KSU Hoops fan and I couldn’t be more excited


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 23, 2022, 09:36:01 PM
Nobody asked you
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on March 23, 2022, 09:38:55 PM
#1cat dumbass


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 09:53:14 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 09:56:24 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Agreed!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 10:01:42 PM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

I also wonder if when the key Ahearn Fund donors mobilized to make an offer for Brad, Gene was able to convince them to kick a little to Jerome so he can go get some guys who will get guys.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wiley on March 23, 2022, 10:22:54 PM
Article on ulric leaving texas

https://www.burntorangenation.com/2022/3/23/22993519/ulric-maligi-kansas-state-wildcats-jerome-tang-texas-longhorns


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 23, 2022, 10:25:50 PM
Article on ulric leaving texas

https://www.burntorangenation.com/2022/3/23/22993519/ulric-maligi-kansas-state-wildcats-jerome-tang-texas-longhorns


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Literally horned up from this article.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wiley on March 23, 2022, 10:32:51 PM
Jareem Dowling will be on the staff

https://dentonrc.com/sports/source-unt-assistant-coach-jareem-dowling-set-to-join-staff-at-kansas-state/article_33832a6e-fc31-5a94-a6a7-a51d3d794ec9.html


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 23, 2022, 10:52:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OmRIfDS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6qLwfMh.jpg)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Lamesauce on March 23, 2022, 11:07:03 PM
Pinch me, this must be a Jareem.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 23, 2022, 11:18:22 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Agreed!

If this staff can't upgrade from Massoud, there's a lot of misplaced optimism around here.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 23, 2022, 11:19:24 PM
Hey buddy, quit raining on our parade.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on March 23, 2022, 11:25:03 PM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2022, 11:39:43 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Agreed!

If this staff can't upgrade from Massoud, there's a lot of misplaced optimism around here.

Jesus Christ, he's a 6'8" guard who averaged 7 PPG and shot 33% from the three point line, he's clearly a high major player. He's already used his free transfer. If Tang kicks a high major player on the streets without the ability to get a scholarship because he feels like he can't get anything out of a player who has averaged 7 points a game over three years in high major college basketball, then I'll lose my crap.

If Massoud decides to leave on his own, then that's fine, but he won't leave on his own. I promise you that there were players on his roster at Baylor every single year far worse than Massoud. There aren't that many good players.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 01:20:37 AM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!


Guard? He was a rough ridin' forward who didn't know WTF a rebund was, couldn't defend and took hundreds of bad shots. He sucks. Move his worthless ass on.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 24, 2022, 01:36:54 AM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!


Guard? He was a rough ridin' forward who didn't know WTF a rebund was, couldn't defend and took hundreds of bad shots. He sucks. Move his worthless ass on.

get lost
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 24, 2022, 03:27:43 AM
 So, can we still keep Shane?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 04:50:24 AM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!


Guard? He was a rough ridin' forward who didn't know WTF a rebund was, couldn't defend and took hundreds of bad shots. He sucks. Move his worthless ass on.

get lost

His dumb ass replied to the wrong post, he meant to reply to my post about Massoud. Shouldn't be surprised that he's still managing to be constantly crying about something.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2022, 05:47:20 AM
So, can we still keep Shane?

He will likely not be retained
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: schreds21 on March 24, 2022, 06:59:02 AM
I also wonder if when the key Ahearn Fund donors mobilized to make an offer for Brad, Gene was able to convince them to kick a little to Jerome so he can go get some guys dudeswho will get guys dudes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 24, 2022, 09:53:54 AM
Time to add steel drums to the band. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 10:03:35 AM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!


Guard? He was a rough ridin' forward who didn't know WTF a rebund was, couldn't defend and took hundreds of bad shots. He sucks. Move his worthless ass on.

get lost

His dumb ass replied to the wrong post, he meant to reply to my post about Massoud. Shouldn't be surprised that he's still managing to be constantly crying about something.

Well I was "crying" for years that we rid ourselves of the losery staff while you were an effing ping pong ball on Oscar.  If indeed Shane isn't retained. something I leave to Tang's wisdom, there is less chance the losery Massoud will be around either.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 10:15:12 AM
Stop
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: DQ12 on March 24, 2022, 10:22:13 AM
massoud wasn't a worldbeater and he certainly isn't irreplaceable, imo.  but he's a competent piece.  there are certainly players currently on the roster that are worse than him if we got to pick and choose roster attrition.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 24, 2022, 10:48:02 AM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

I also wonder if when the key Ahearn Fund donors mobilized to make an offer for Brad, Gene was able to convince them to kick a little to Jerome so he can go get some guys who will get guys.

Hopefully. I have heard a few times in various places that big money kstate donors either are or will be shifting from facilities to salaries which would be great. Overall, our crap is really pretty nice now. Time to give basketball and football more money for staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 11:46:55 AM
I'm not sure I've ever followed assistant coach movements, but nabbing assistants from Chris Beard and that other guy who was in the mix to hire as HC seem like good gets. Especially when both are known as good recruiters!


Guard? He was a rough ridin' forward who didn't know WTF a rebund was, couldn't defend and took hundreds of bad shots. He sucks. Move his worthless ass on.

get lost

His dumb ass replied to the wrong post, he meant to reply to my post about Massoud. Shouldn't be surprised that he's still managing to be constantly crying about something.

Well I was "crying" for years that we rid ourselves of the losery staff while you were an effing ping pong ball on Oscar.  If indeed Shane isn't retained. something I leave to Tang's wisdom, there is less chance the losery Massoud will be around either.

I don't even know what being a ping pong ball on oscar even means. Does that mean I was happy when we were winning and not happy when we were losing? Guilty, lol.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 11:49:09 AM
Do your guys think tang took less of a salary so he could go out and get a staff like this? If so then thumbs up because 2.1 mil/year vs 3.0/year isn’t a big deal money wise if 2.1 means that you can go hire a staff of friends and people you know that also kick major ass.

I also wonder if when the key Ahearn Fund donors mobilized to make an offer for Brad, Gene was able to convince them to kick a little to Jerome so he can go get some guys who will get guys.

Hopefully. I have heard a few times in various places that big money kstate donors either are or will be shifting from facilities to salaries which would be great. Overall, our crap is really pretty nice now. Time to give basketball and football more money for staff.

Well if that's the case, unfortunately, that will be at the peril of the basketball program because Bramlage is the last thing on the initial master plan that isn't either done or currently under construction. If we found the money to make Brad an offer, the money should be there to pay the coaches and get Bramlage done.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 03:10:54 PM
massoud wasn't a worldbeater and he certainly isn't irreplaceable, imo.  but he's a competent piece.  there are certainly players currently on the roster that are worse than him if we got to pick and choose roster attrition.

Agreed. Massoud would be good in a 6th man role, he can catch fire sometimes.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 03:26:09 PM
massoud wasn't a worldbeater and he certainly isn't irreplaceable, imo.  but he's a competent piece.  there are certainly players currently on the roster that are worse than him if we got to pick and choose roster attrition.

Agreed. Massoud would be good in a 6th man role, he can catch fire so
metimes.

He is the poster child of a lazy, selfish player. He can't or won't defend or rebound. He racked up, count them, 10 assists this season. 10! I don't think a competent staff would view him as about winning.






Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 03:27:10 PM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 03:31:35 PM
:rolleyes:

You really have to be the most boring, mousy person I've ever ran across.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
He’s a shooting guard not a passing guard
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 03:47:52 PM
Obviously.

And what is this "guard" crap? He is at most a wing. And his shooting efficiency, which greatly benefitted fro the only think he's good at of FT, was 0.47, with anything less than .5 considered below average.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: dal9 on March 24, 2022, 03:48:53 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Agreed!

If this staff can't upgrade from Massoud, there's a lot of misplaced optimism around here.

Jesus Christ, he's a 6'8" guard who averaged 7 PPG and shot 33% from the three point line, he's clearly a high major player. He's already used his free transfer. If Tang kicks a high major player on the streets without the ability to get a scholarship because he feels like he can't get anything out of a player who has averaged 7 points a game over three years in high major college basketball, then I'll lose my crap.

If Massoud decides to leave on his own, then that's fine, but he won't leave on his own. I promise you that there were players on his roster at Baylor every single year far worse than Massoud. There aren't that many good players.

not so sure about the two parts of this sentence going together
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: dal9 on March 24, 2022, 03:50:01 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/6qLwfMh.jpg)

very "went to my hater's funeral to make sure he was dead" vibes
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 04:08:54 PM
not so sure about the two parts of this sentence going together

Average player on a kenpom 60ish team is still a high major player.  Only the bluest of bloods on a good year have no average players. Some teams have no bad players though, and that’s something to shoot for in year one. Which is why we need him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BW on March 24, 2022, 04:26:27 PM
Rumors of a certain head coach of a certain high school hoops factory in Missouri joining the staff.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2022, 04:31:12 PM
:rolleyes:

You really have to be the most boring, mousy person I've ever ran across.
Cry
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on March 24, 2022, 04:35:26 PM
Rumors of a certain head coach of a certain high school hoops factory in Missouri joining the staff.

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would said coach have a 5 star PF that just reopened his recruitment due to a coaching change?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 04:39:21 PM
Looks like multiple 5ers. Incoming grcoat? Tang is trying to hit this into the parking lot
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on March 24, 2022, 04:49:42 PM
Rumors of a certain head coach of a certain high school hoops factory in Missouri joining the staff.

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would said coach have a 5 star PF that just reopened his recruitment due to a coaching change?
Inject more of this information into my soul.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BW on March 24, 2022, 04:50:21 PM
Rumors of a certain head coach of a certain high school hoops factory in Missouri joining the staff.

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would said coach have a 5 star PF that just reopened his recruitment due to a coaching change?
Indeed.

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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 04:50:42 PM
Looks like multiple 5ers. Incoming grcoat? Tang is trying to hit this into the parking lot
E rough ridin' MAW
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 04:52:34 PM
massoud wasn't a worldbeater and he certainly isn't irreplaceable, imo.  but he's a competent piece.  there are certainly players currently on the roster that are worse than him if we got to pick and choose roster attrition.

Agreed. Massoud would be good in a 6th man role, he can catch fire so
metimes.

He is the poster child of a lazy, selfish player. He can't or won't defend or rebound. He racked up, count them, 10 assists this season. 10! I don't think a competent staff would view him as about winning.

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, take a lap man.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 04:57:17 PM
massoud wasn't a worldbeater and he certainly isn't irreplaceable, imo.  but he's a competent piece.  there are certainly players currently on the roster that are worse than him if we got to pick and choose roster attrition.

Agreed. Massoud would be good in a 6th man role, he can catch fire so
metimes.



He is the poster child of a lazy, selfish player. He can't or won't defend or rebound. He racked up, count them, 10 assists this season. 10! I don't think a competent staff would view him as about winning.
Bugger off
Jesus rough ridin' Christ, take a lap man.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2022, 04:58:24 PM
want to hear more about 5 stars and less about duds
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 24, 2022, 05:00:26 PM
This might be a better hire than Ulrich.

Tang probably figured you really only get one shot at this. And he’s making the rough ridin' most of it. He’s been planning all this for sure.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 05:02:29 PM
want to hear more about 5 stars and less about duds

Amen
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 24, 2022, 05:11:31 PM
This might be a better hire than Ulrich.

Tang probably figured you really only get one shot at this. And he’s making the rough ridin' most of it. He’s been planning all this for sure.

He said “ we are going to win, and it won’t take long”  and I think that gives a nice glimpse into what he is executing right in front of our eyes. Portal makes it a bit different than the Beasley and Walker GRCOAT times but I think he may put together a class in the next two years that is on par with it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: I_have_purplewood on March 24, 2022, 05:15:25 PM
Rumors of a certain head coach of a certain high school hoops factory in Missouri joining the staff.

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would said coach have a 5 star PF that just reopened his recruitment due to a coaching change?
Indeed.

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I'd like to say that I'm kinda getting a boner but there are too many dong lovers here now...  but I am!   :ksu: (ftp://:ksu:)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2022, 05:17:29 PM
this isn't GRCOAT yet but it is GRSOAT
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2022, 05:20:32 PM
https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/high-school/2021/08/10/link-academy-branson-high-school-cusp-becoming-basketball-power-mshsaa-rodney-perry-omaha-biliew/5461597001/ (https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/high-school/2021/08/10/link-academy-branson-high-school-cusp-becoming-basketball-power-mshsaa-rodney-perry-omaha-biliew/5461597001/)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2022, 05:31:29 PM
What's been the strength and conditioning philosophy at Baylor? Didn't see much out of the last regime in that regard. Not much reason to keep either Bradford or Massoud around if they don't commit to physical changes.

Massoud definitely isn't going anywhere and hopefully Bradford isn't either.
Agreed!

If this staff can't upgrade from Massoud, there's a lot of misplaced optimism around here.

Jesus Christ, he's a 6'8" guard who averaged 7 PPG and shot 33% from the three point line, he's clearly a high major player. He's already used his free transfer. If Tang kicks a high major player on the streets without the ability to get a scholarship because he feels like he can't get anything out of a player who has averaged 7 points a game over three years in high major college basketball, then I'll lose my crap.

If Massoud decides to leave on his own, then that's fine, but he won't leave on his own. I promise you that there were players on his roster at Baylor every single year far worse than Massoud. There aren't that many good players.

not so sure about the two parts of this sentence going together

Well you better watch more college basketball or read more or something. Here you go.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/
https://kenpom.com/
He's a bang average college basketball player
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 24, 2022, 05:33:32 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on March 24, 2022, 05:43:24 PM
Rodney Perry  :pray:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on March 24, 2022, 06:01:11 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/6qLwfMh.jpg)

very "went to my hater's funeral to make sure he was dead" vibes

I feel bad that I chuckled at this.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 24, 2022, 07:47:36 PM
This might be a better hire than Ulrich.

Tang probably figured you really only get one shot at this. And he’s making the rough ridin' most of it. He’s been planning all this for sure.

He said “ we are going to win, and it won’t take long”  and I think that gives a nice glimpse into what he is executing right in front of our eyes. Portal makes it a bit different than the Beasley and Walker GRCOAT times but I think he may put together a class in the next two years that is on par with it.

In my imagination I think around January he like, sent a group text to all his coaching friends and was like, alright here’s the deal. I’m taking a hc job next season. Don’t know where yet, but I want you guys to come with me and I’ll make sure you get paid, but I need to know you guys are in. Oh and Scott, here’s the deal. You start telling everyone that will listen how much I deserve a shot and how great of a job I’ll do, and in exchange I promise not to bring the entire Baylor roster and staff with me wherever I end up” And they were all like oh h*ck yes Jerome
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 24, 2022, 08:55:25 PM
Rodney Perry  :pray:

You don't need that emoji...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on March 24, 2022, 09:36:51 PM
Rodney Perry  :pray:

You don't need that emoji...

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 24, 2022, 09:40:29 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...

j-von, hello. how are you?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 24, 2022, 10:07:51 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...

j-von, hello. how are you?

Hello SD. 
I was in a oscar induced coma for a good while but I’m doing much better now.  Great to see most of the old crew is still around. Hopefully we can watch Tang build a monster together.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 24, 2022, 10:22:15 PM
Yes, let’s do it
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KCFDcat on March 24, 2022, 11:03:04 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...

Is Mr. Borne food at basketball coaching?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 24, 2022, 11:05:57 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...

Is Mr. Borne food at basketball coaching?

He's a big cheese
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on March 24, 2022, 11:15:43 PM
Sorry to interrupt the hot Massoud chatter, but it looks like Marco Borne is coming along...

https://www.kmaland.com/sports/k-state-mens-hoops-add-another-assistant/article_e9b77188-abb1-11ec-a7ce-17eea41c08ca.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Now we need that Rodney Perry news to materialize...

Is Mr. Borne food at basketball coaching?

He's a big cheese

He's grate
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 25, 2022, 12:01:35 AM
No Shane?!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 05:44:40 AM
No Shane?!

Don’t cry for Shane he is going to land on a P5 staff, had offers last year.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on March 25, 2022, 06:07:23 AM
No Shane?!

I'm sure his recruiting wouldn't be up to standards with this new staff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 25, 2022, 06:40:28 AM
https://twitter.com/grantflanders/status/1507234952932433923?s=21


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2022, 07:18:49 AM
holy crap
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 25, 2022, 07:22:50 AM
Dudes


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2022, 07:29:40 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2022, 07:45:36 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes?
I don’t even know who any of them are or who good recruits are. Pete, I’m err’ing on the side of “100% rough ridin' positive”
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 25, 2022, 07:54:49 AM
https://youtu.be/Y6wwzs6cyhU honest Abe would not lie


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: KITNfury on March 25, 2022, 08:13:03 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes?
I don’t even know who any of them are or who good recruits are. Pete, I’m err’ing on the side of “100% rough ridin' positive”
lol same
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 09:02:33 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 09:11:19 AM
a little bit of uncertainty around Rodney Perry right now, for what it's worth. could still absolutely be happening just not confirmed.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 25, 2022, 09:12:37 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008

Like, for real? I don't follow the hoopies that much, but did he really pull in this type of staff?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 09:15:11 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008

Like, for real? I don't follow the hoopies that much, but did he really pull in this type of staff?

Yes for real, Tang and Maligi will have us in legitimate conversations for 5 star players and Perry has a pipeline as good or better at Link compared to DC Assualt
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 25, 2022, 09:16:41 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008

Like, for real? I don't follow the hoopies that much, but did he really pull in this type of staff?

Yes for real, Tang and Maligi will have us in legitimate conversations for 5 star players and Perry has a pipeline as good or better at Link compared to DC Assualt

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 25, 2022, 09:18:48 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008

Like, for real? I don't follow the hoopies that much, but did he really pull in this type of staff?

Yes for real, Tang and Maligi will have us in legitimate conversations for 5 star players and Perry has a pipeline as good or better at Link compared to DC Assualt

 :bwpopcorn:

Also, when/ff any of this really happens, I can't rough ridin' wait.....like I am already really excited for the "these guys are paying players, none of these guys would be in Manhattan if they weren't getting paid", etc. from KU fans. Its going to be so much fun.   :driving:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes?

Quite
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2022, 09:30:08 AM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

We now have two of the best recruiters in college basketball AND a Delonte Hill Esque HS coach associated with a new prep academy with a similar pipeline to DC Assault circa 2008

Like, for real? I don't follow the hoopies that much, but did he really pull in this type of staff?

Yes for real, Tang and Maligi will have us in legitimate conversations for 5 star players and Perry has a pipeline as good or better at Link compared to DC Assualt

 :bwpopcorn:

Also, when/ff any of this really happens, I can't rough ridin' wait.....like I am already really excited for the "these guys are paying players, none of these guys would be in Manhattan if they weren't getting paid", etc. from KU fans. Its going to be so much fun.   :driving:
It's 2022 with NIL. These conversations don't happen anymore.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 09:34:13 AM
Tang just retweeted this so that adds another layer of being official

https://twitter.com/AllAccess_Net/status/1506731883870130176?s=20&t=huApew7wzcjduvsSzjz5fQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on March 25, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
Is this real life?


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 25, 2022, 10:23:29 AM
Sorry if luked, but this has so much sauce!

https://twitter.com/grantflanders/status/1507234952932433923?s=21P
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 10:39:45 AM

Definitely a pipeline to dudes.

https://cascadesports.tv/interview-with-link-academy-head-basketball-coach-rodney-perry-and-two-of-his-players-trey-green-jordan-ross/ (https://cascadesports.tv/interview-with-link-academy-head-basketball-coach-rodney-perry-and-two-of-his-players-trey-green-jordan-ross/)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on March 25, 2022, 10:52:57 AM
Link connection would be amaze

former MHS guard Cam Carr is there currently (not that he would be a target)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 25, 2022, 11:08:40 AM
(https://c.tenor.com/fYlKfVkXqxEAAAAC/im-very-excite-borat-sagdiyev.gif)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: DQ12 on March 25, 2022, 11:13:40 AM
k-state has built an unbelievable coaching staff.  i cannot give enough credit to Gene for going out and pushing the first domino to get this all going.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-dub on March 25, 2022, 11:22:34 AM
hey guys, are we good at hoops again?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2022, 11:46:26 AM
hey guys, are we good at hoops again?

MAYBE!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/72/ba/0b72ba4f4703a6550193a729f0b8a7de.gif)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 25, 2022, 11:57:06 AM
k-state has built an unbelievable coaching staff.  i cannot give enough credit to Gene for going out and pushing the first domino to get this all going.

Tang was over-the-top complimentary of Gene. He really did a great job.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on March 25, 2022, 12:25:04 PM
The Fargo supper club has incredible reach
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 25, 2022, 12:27:08 PM
There is no reason KU and KSU can’t be Kentucky/L’Ville of old.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 12:27:33 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: meow meow on March 25, 2022, 12:42:04 PM
Gene's a real what have you done for me lately guy, i've always said that and admired that
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on March 25, 2022, 12:57:31 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.

Gene fired no one, they left on their own.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 01:00:44 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.

Gene fired no one, they left on their own.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/26n6Gx9moCgs1pUuk/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952bb494e70deebe8d755fadbec4a3474e673d6735f&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2022, 01:14:40 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.

Gene fired no one, they left on their own.

Lmao that’s a good one OlatheWildcat
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on March 25, 2022, 01:26:56 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.

Gene fired no one, they left on their own.
(https://c.tenor.com/QwcxGNHGU_8AAAAC/dr-evil-right.gif)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 25, 2022, 01:29:53 PM
i want rodney perry badly. i hope nobody poaches him while we wait. as if anyone can swoop anyone away from tang though. still need to get used to being the top dog of the big 12 now.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on March 25, 2022, 01:30:50 PM
hey guys, are we good at hoops again?

a very strong maybe  :excited:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 25, 2022, 01:51:38 PM
i want rodney perry badly. i hope nobody poaches him while we wait. as if anyone can swoop anyone away from tang though. still need to get used to being the top dog of the big 12 now.

peak form number1stunner right here. love it. loving it.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 25, 2022, 02:55:28 PM
Gene has fired every single Title Town coach from 2012, amazing really.

Gene fired no one, they left on their own.
(https://c.tenor.com/QwcxGNHGU_8AAAAC/dr-evil-right.gif)
Lmao Gene fired everyone.


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2022, 04:18:53 PM
I love the enthusiasm.  I am ignorant of why it exists, but I love it exists.  Are we at least medium sure that these assistants will bring dudes? 

pete did you watch that IG live video?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 25, 2022, 08:31:27 PM
hey guys, are we good at hoops again?

Jdub…jdub…the answer is maybe, and the other answer is even if we aren’t we are still going to party our asses off until proven otherwise and I’m going to be fist pumping and crushing suds 24/7/365 until like at least December or w/e
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 09:14:44 PM
I can only assume that the mus-tang has promised some serious NIL money to get dudes, and hopefully this will entice Perry.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2022, 09:56:48 PM
That's not at all how that works.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 25, 2022, 10:04:59 PM
I know it doesn't come from the school, but I would assume Gene has conversations with the boosters.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2022, 12:59:48 AM
That's very illegal. And before someone rebuts with "everyone does it," Tang has a rep for being squeaky clean, despite what panicked KU fans say.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 26, 2022, 09:08:12 AM
Perry’s connection to Link is great, but he’s also coached the MoKan Elite teams for years and is currently the coach of the 17U team. He’s got connections on connections. 

And MIR is right, he’ll play in the grey a bit, but I don’t think he’ll cheat to a Kansas or LSU scale. Still, there will be dudes coming to Manhattan.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2022, 09:09:10 AM
Perry’s connection to Link is great, but he’s also coached the MoKan Elite teams for years and is currently the coach of the 17U team. He’s got connections on connections. 

And MIR is right, he’ll play in the grey a bit, but I don’t think he’ll cheat to a Kansas or LSU scale. Still, there will be dudes coming to Manhattan.

 :excited: :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on March 26, 2022, 03:41:46 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtEjqIaiX-o (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtEjqIaiX-o)


Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on March 27, 2022, 12:07:26 PM
Perry’s connection to Link is great, but he’s also coached the MoKan Elite teams for years and is currently the coach of the 17U team. He’s got connections on connections. 

And MIR is right, he’ll play in the grey a bit, but I don’t think he’ll cheat to a Kansas or LSU scale. Still, there will be dudes coming to Manhattan.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2022, 01:22:25 PM
ass, gas, or cash, nobody (including shane) rides for free
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2022, 02:47:26 PM
https://twitter.com/coachreem4ever/status/1508166540469981197?s=21
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on March 28, 2022, 06:54:32 AM
https://twitter.com/Coach_Maligi/status/1508309798026104835?s=20&t=v6BNzig0HxgF1FyxrYF4ng
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on March 28, 2022, 09:52:06 AM
Pinch me, this must be a Jareem.

with all the played out tang name jokes, how does this go unnoticed?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ben ji on March 28, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
Pinch me, this must be a Jareem.

with all the played out tang name jokes, how does this go unnoticed?
It was all jareem, used to read TANG up Magazine!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2022, 10:59:18 PM
We’re gonna be in SLAM and stuff like that again. Is SLAM still a thing?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on March 29, 2022, 08:44:22 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachingChanges/status/1508797362675740673?s=20&t=tukLoa0eRt86g3uNj5NV-Q
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on March 29, 2022, 11:25:39 AM
[size=78%]Dowling was a junior college assistant at Cecil College.[/size]



Any dudes we can lock up from Cecil College?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 29, 2022, 11:33:17 AM
Pinch me, this must be a Jareem.

with all the played out tang name jokes, how does this go unnoticed?
It was all jareem, used to read TANG up Magazine!

I appreciate this.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2022, 02:57:52 PM
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1508891179915649028?s=20&t=8BaN82cz8UefS2B6m0T6Aw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on March 30, 2022, 11:11:49 PM
THE Curtis Malone?


[tweet]1509367892428705792[/tweet]?s=20&t=GBv2cJGanpxg5yd5Swi9kQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2022, 02:25:53 AM
I'll be damned, he's out of jail. Good for him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2022, 05:37:20 AM
Whoa
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2022, 07:08:53 AM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2022, 07:27:13 AM
he's not just out of jail, he like immediately got invited to speak at CBB programs across the country

https://www.instagram.com/thecurtismalone/ (https://www.instagram.com/thecurtismalone/)

(https://i.imgur.com/lKc6Xmw.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/QtEJ8Ud.png)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2022, 07:34:14 AM
@pissclams, has Curtis reached out to you yet?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
He went to prison for dealing Coke right? Seems like he is reformed and ready to mentor young men again(steer them to KSU cats)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2022, 08:50:24 AM
@pissclams, has Curtis reached out to you yet?
he’s probably mad that i stood him up last time

also, he’s kinda got a “do these motherfuckers know i’ve been in prison the last 5 years??” smile in these pictures
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: dal9 on March 31, 2022, 11:42:38 AM
didnt realize he was a two time loser
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2022, 03:52:08 PM
Pulling the suge
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2022, 05:17:02 PM
How rough ridin' weird would it be that every time you did anything of note, or there was a visitor of any kind, at your work, you intentionally gathered those there, took a pic, and posted to to Social.

What a stupid world. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2022, 06:07:26 PM
He's recently out of prison and hasn't seen his friends in years, I think most people are taking pics in this instance.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Do we know if Maligi helped with the recruitment of Terrence Shannon at tech?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2022, 10:15:24 PM
@pissclams, has Curtis reached out to you yet?
he’s probably mad that i stood him up last time

also, he’s kinda got a “do these motherfuckers know i’ve been in prison the last 5 years??” smile in these pictures
Yeah, he’s had a lot of time to plan. A bit like Huggs during his down time (though not in prison).
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2022, 06:40:14 AM
Is there a reason Maligi hasn't been officially announced?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2022, 06:53:21 AM
Is there a reason Maligi hasn't been officially announced?

I think it’s coming today, not sure why but they seem to want to give each announcement separately with some space in between.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 01, 2022, 08:08:32 AM
Is there a reason Maligi hasn't been officially announced?

I think it’s coming today, not sure why but they seem to want to give each announcement separately with some space in between.

On the boscoe podcast, Gene made it sound like they were also still working on their contracts earlier this week too.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 09:12:18 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1509893409988784129?s=20&t=cHP20V18nbLAF680i3DfVg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 01, 2022, 09:48:52 AM
So what is official right now?  Maligi and Borne? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 01, 2022, 09:49:47 AM
So what is official right now?  Maligi and Borne? 

One more - Dowling, I think
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2022, 09:59:41 AM
3rd chair is the mystery. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 01, 2022, 10:26:44 AM
waiting for the conclusion of this?  :crossfingers:
https://twitter.com/LinkHoops/status/1509881122037116945/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/LinkHoops/status/1509881122037116945/photo/1)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 10:33:50 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachADMalhotra/status/1509913267333963782?s=20&t=k2uqJOQxKsxQjXqChPpCtw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
https://baylorbears.com/staff-directory/aditya-malhotra/354
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 01, 2022, 10:36:57 AM
texas connections running deep
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2022, 10:37:20 AM
Good find, wacky
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 10:40:37 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2022, 10:49:28 AM
I’d be really happy with that
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2022, 10:53:32 AM
Kietzman's gonna lose his crap.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 10:54:35 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on April 01, 2022, 11:08:52 AM
rodney perry or bust
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 01, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Why is KK going to lose his crap? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2022, 11:16:37 AM
rodney perry or bust

doesn't appear to be on the table anymore per kso
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 01, 2022, 11:27:38 AM
rodney perry or bust

doesn't appear to be on the table anymore per kso

Darn. This seemed like best case scenario, no?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Justwin on April 01, 2022, 11:28:35 AM
rodney perry or bust

doesn't appear to be on the table anymore per kso

Rodney Perry is kind of bland.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2022, 11:32:13 AM
rodney perry or bust

doesn't appear to be on the table anymore per kso

Darn. This seemed like best case scenario, no?

yeah but logic would say there's an obvious connection to Perry that still exists so maybe that will lead us to some kick ass 'cruits/dudes
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2022, 11:54:12 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachADMalhotra/status/1509913267333963782?s=20&t=k2uqJOQxKsxQjXqChPpCtw

https://twitter.com/CoachADMalhotra/status/1509936948789534722?s=20&t=AsCSJQWPtdlvJp5y-qUjUA
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Tobias on April 01, 2022, 11:55:44 AM
lmao
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: meow meow on April 01, 2022, 11:56:41 AM
haha that's great
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2022, 11:57:21 AM
 :curse: :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2022, 11:57:32 AM
:D
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 01, 2022, 12:01:35 PM
That son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 01, 2022, 12:02:37 PM
Kstate fans so thirsty
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2022, 12:22:12 PM
Amazing
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on April 01, 2022, 12:29:40 PM
I kind of love that development.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on April 01, 2022, 01:12:02 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 01, 2022, 01:19:00 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2022, 01:24:21 PM
Incred
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2022, 01:26:10 PM
lol, well done
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: CHONGS on April 01, 2022, 01:31:42 PM
Weird to see this place as the non panicking one.  Well maybe not, but people need to chill out on those other KSU sports fora (that's for @Spracne).
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 01, 2022, 07:40:28 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4zWraXf9oRM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4zWraXf9oRM)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 02, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
Rango Jones is a national treasure


https://twitter.com/therangojones/status/1510294429810233355?s=20&t=gr9pdNWbn_4ByvcaldKgrg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 02, 2022, 02:10:02 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 03, 2022, 01:11:09 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1510677772880035846?s=20&t=TiDxxqVi7AAMY10ErzuvGw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 03, 2022, 02:01:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1510677772880035846?s=20&t=TiDxxqVi7AAMY10ErzuvGw
eff Drew Brees
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on April 03, 2022, 03:07:49 PM
Something about that face and hair keeps tricking my mind into thinking that’s a cardboard cutout of Brees.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 03, 2022, 03:23:59 PM
drew brees is a clown ass and when I see him, I plan to tell him so
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 03, 2022, 03:25:39 PM
I want to hate Drew Brees, also! Are there any other reasons beside him ruining my trip to the Alamo bowl in 1998?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on April 03, 2022, 03:42:38 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/drew-brees-faces-backlash-from-saints-teammates-and-beyond-for-comments-about-kneeling-during-the-anthem/

racist, probably maga
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 03, 2022, 04:24:27 PM
Mohammed F tits! Are you trying to tell me that Drew Brees is racist and our assistant coaches are posing with him. Can we get Jareem fired? Maybe Jareem is a *gasp* Nazi
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Katpappy on April 03, 2022, 06:31:03 PM
Nothing worst than a black nazi.  :D
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 03, 2022, 06:55:37 PM
CanCo Brees is a great human
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 03, 2022, 07:05:13 PM
Been doing some research on this Drew Brees character. Seems pretty shady.


https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/drew_brees/article_a5b50378-8b5b-11eb-8a44-e398d0025bc1.amp.html (https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/drew_brees/article_a5b50378-8b5b-11eb-8a44-e398d0025bc1.amp.html)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 03, 2022, 10:33:50 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1510437380163047425?s=20&t=xd8VMlwENL468hI3gdObQQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 04, 2022, 07:57:08 AM
Jareem is a treat on IG. constant content on his story.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 04, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Ho Lee Fuk! Ulric Maligi was an assistant coach under Larry Brown at SMU!

Some words.

https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2022/4/4/sports-extra-a-longstanding-relationship-brought-maligi-to-k-state.aspx (https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2022/4/4/sports-extra-a-longstanding-relationship-brought-maligi-to-k-state.aspx)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2022, 01:42:56 PM
Something about that face and hair keeps tricking my mind into thinking that’s a cardboard cutout of Brees.

Yeah, I also thought it was a cardboard cutout at first.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 04, 2022, 04:33:40 PM
https://twitter.com/MitchTheFort/status/1511091541288570883?s=20&t=rTWLA04hxTETHeWj2ppNcg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 04, 2022, 04:41:36 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 04, 2022, 04:53:52 PM
I like that he's honest
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2022, 05:18:02 PM
I like that he's honest

So was the old guy and people didn't like that at all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 04, 2022, 05:23:46 PM
I like that he's honest

So was the old guy and people didn't like that at all.


 :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry

Rodney is the only guy that wasn’t on a different college staff right? Is there anyway that they would be purposely keeping him off staff for a little while longer to recruit or do things that an official staff member couldn’t?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2022, 07:00:51 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry

Rodney is the only guy that wasn’t on a different college staff right? Is there anyway that they would be purposely keeping him off staff for a little while longer to recruit or do things that an official staff member couldn’t?

Hmmm, interesting
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wiley on April 04, 2022, 07:02:42 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry

Rodney is the only guy that wasn’t on a different college staff right? Is there anyway that they would be purposely keeping him off staff for a little while longer to recruit or do things that an official staff member couldn’t?
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/x7gjmBuaHrWak/giphy.gif)


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2022, 07:23:55 PM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry

Rodney is the only guy that wasn’t on a different college staff right? Is there anyway that they would be purposely keeping him off staff for a little while longer to recruit or do things that an official staff member couldn’t?

That feels like a question you may already know the answer to :)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on April 04, 2022, 08:40:10 PM
If true, that is exactly the brand of squeaky clean I want in a head coach.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2022, 10:25:40 PM
Also, tang was on 1350 the game today. They asked him if Shane was ever considered. He said “no” and then didn’t say anything else. They waited for him to expand and he didn’t. It was v funny. They also asked about the last open staff position and it sounded like he’d be fine not filling it for another six months or forever or something. It was an interesting answer.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on April 04, 2022, 10:38:54 PM
6 months of rodney perry recruiting with no rules  :love:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 04, 2022, 10:41:10 PM
6 months of rodney perry recruiting with no rules  :love:

I mean there was no time frame offered. He just didn’t seem in a hurry. Like, at all.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 05, 2022, 05:23:25 PM
rodney perry or bust

doesn't appear to be on the table anymore per kso

wait nope, yep, it's on the table
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2022, 05:36:40 PM
So Julian Phillips pops for the cats and Omaha Biliew reclasses to 2022 and we win the natty?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2022, 07:18:02 PM
Perry is certainly the target for coach 3.

I’m assuming they have a handshake while he gets to finish his coaching responsibilities and tries to convince some link /mokan guys to follow


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 06, 2022, 12:11:50 AM
Omaha Biliew

Is that right?  @Cardiac Cats where are you bro?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on April 06, 2022, 11:46:41 AM
Tang is assembling the coolest coaching staff in America.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on April 06, 2022, 11:47:46 AM
Do we still have another assistant coach position open? Marco is a chief of staff and I think you get three assistant coaches

They are trying to close Rodney Perry

Rodney is the only guy that wasn’t on a different college staff right? Is there anyway that they would be purposely keeping him off staff for a little while longer to recruit or do things that an official staff member couldn’t?

That feels like a question you may already know the answer to :)

GRCOAT 2.0 incoming.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 06, 2022, 07:55:22 PM
this is cool

https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1511867301972176897?s=20&t=iwp0YyW0-ErE6WxNw5Ha-A
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on April 07, 2022, 07:16:20 AM
Jareem on kman - full interview https://open.spotify.com/episode/5KaOw6doauq4h09fXhD3af?si=holMHyJgSPCFhIGeK6bCvg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2022, 01:04:40 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1512490462094974977?s=20&t=6pQYSBZ-K2NVke0zSbkrOw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: catastrophe on April 08, 2022, 04:40:37 PM
The Carpenter will whittle away our players’ imperfections and shape them into good men.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 08, 2022, 05:04:40 PM
He'll make them a whittle better
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2022, 05:12:33 PM
You know who else was a Carpenter? Jesus, that's who.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 08, 2022, 05:16:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1512530764465942528?s=20&t=RmXIWiDECea8OMC0X1b1Vg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ELL3 on April 08, 2022, 10:39:16 PM
Ay truth to Oscar and Shane encouraging guys to leave after Oscar got the boot??
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2022, 01:39:14 AM
Why would they need to be told? The only one who the coaches would have wanted was Pack and I don't know if you've seen his offers but he didn't need anyone to tell him to leave.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OlatheWildcat on April 11, 2022, 06:32:11 PM
This Anthony Winchester guy better not be the third assistant.
Title: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2022, 06:35:11 PM
If we aren’t getting a recruiter—Jank, Doc or bust.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on April 18, 2022, 01:01:29 AM
can we throw a parade for perry? let's lock him in
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on April 18, 2022, 01:03:56 AM
i'm surprised southwell hasn't been picked up yet (not surprised)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Pete on April 18, 2022, 07:28:04 AM
You know who else was a Carpenter? Jesus, that's who.

What do you think his last gig was like?  Do you think he finished it out quietly and just didn't take anymore gigs?  Or do you think think he was like "You know, after this one I am out of here guys...have some really big things planned...."   Maybe he just ghosted them and walked off after some lady complained about the finish work.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 18, 2022, 05:19:32 PM
Rodney Perry just followed me on Twitter. It’s happening, isn’t it?!!!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 19, 2022, 08:22:44 AM
Rodney Perry just followed me on Twitter. It’s happening, isn’t it?!!!

nice! there didn't seem to be much doubt about it but his recent follows on twitter are all cats stuff.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 19, 2022, 08:41:46 AM
Rodney Perry just followed me on Twitter. It’s happening, isn’t it?!!!

nice! there didn't seem to be much doubt about it but his recent follows on twitter are all cats stuff.
Yeah, I found it interesting, because I wasn't following him at the time. Nice addition!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: _33 on April 19, 2022, 10:56:11 AM
Why do we want Rodney Perry?  I'm not saying I don't, I just know nothing about him.  Is he good?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2022, 11:01:44 AM
Why do we want Rodney Perry?  I'm not saying I don't, I just know nothing about him.  Is he good?

He’s the coach at Link in Branson MO and coaches the Mokan Elite AAU team. Think of him like Delonte Hill with DC Assault from back in the Beasley McGruder Wally Judge days.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: tdaver on April 19, 2022, 11:22:09 AM
Why do we want Rodney Perry?  I'm not saying I don't, I just know nothing about him.  Is he good?

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/julian-phillips-256083

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2023/omaha-biliew-256426
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 19, 2022, 11:34:34 AM
My real estate agent said that Perry is looking at houses
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2022, 02:02:19 PM
Is he buying in Colbert Hills next to stoops?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 19, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Why do we want Rodney Perry?  I'm not saying I don't, I just know nothing about him.  Is he good?
Because we want DUDES
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: _33 on April 19, 2022, 05:04:17 PM
Why do we want Rodney Perry?  I'm not saying I don't, I just know nothing about him.  Is he good?

He’s the coach at Link in Branson MO and coaches the Mokan Elite AAU team. Think of him like Delonte Hill with DC Assault from back in the Beasley McGruder Wally Judge days.

You had me at 'Think of him like Delonte Hill with DC Assault from back in the Beasley McGruder Wally Judge days.'
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 21, 2022, 07:55:08 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1517186404454830090?s=20&t=_uOo4MKer6P1tAYZzkF-mg
 :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2022, 09:13:37 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1517186404454830090?s=20&t=_uOo4MKer6P1tAYZzkF-mg
 :Woohoo:

Someone else poached from seemingly a great position at their current school.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2022, 10:14:19 PM
Yea he’s built a crazy good coaching staff and got Gene on board with expansion of positions as well.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2022, 11:14:01 AM
so are we getting rodney perry or?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on April 22, 2022, 11:49:16 AM
sounds like it. just a really slow play, hopefully so we can basically cheat until he's officially hired.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
sounds like it. just a really slow play, hopefully so we can basically cheat until he's officially hired.
Yes, like when Huggins was out of a job for a year.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2022, 01:35:43 PM
 :cool: I like that!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 23, 2022, 04:37:19 PM
i want him to cheat his face off today, yesterday, and forever.  that’s all I want.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on April 28, 2022, 01:23:49 PM
Former assistant coach at Southern Mississippi


https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1519738216517152772?s=20&t=1iYtDHQTzxMbVp13g0i0aQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on April 28, 2022, 01:47:10 PM
i want him to cheat his face off today, yesterday, and forever.  that’s all I want.

 :pray:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on May 03, 2022, 11:23:01 AM
Rumblings that Rodney Perry gets announced this week. Is it just a coincidence that it’s right before JuJu Phillips visit?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on May 03, 2022, 12:12:15 PM
[tweet]1521535062595891201[/tweet]?s=20&t=WNrB0-ONT-tSxulttbRRqQ


has 12 years of head coaching experience at the elite high school level, most notably, in helping build a powerhouse at Montverde Academy in Montverde, Florida from 2003-11.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 03, 2022, 01:04:11 PM
how the hell can we have such a huge staff of made up titles
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 0.42 on May 03, 2022, 01:22:52 PM
how the hell can we have such a huge staff of made up titles

we're becoming the bama of cbb :sdeek:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 03, 2022, 01:26:14 PM
how the hell can we have such a huge staff of made up titles
:kstategrad:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on May 03, 2022, 01:31:36 PM
I thought I just recently read somewhere that HOF Athletic Director Caspar Milquetoast had committed more money to basketball staff when Coach Tang was hired. I can’t find the source of that information now, however
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: chum1 on May 03, 2022, 01:34:45 PM
Father Tang is building an off-grid Christian commune for all of his Brothers to join.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on May 03, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
how the hell can we have such a huge staff of made up titles

Lol, was gonna say the same. Chief of Staff? Director of Strategies?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on May 03, 2022, 01:42:10 PM
i like it. tang doesn't have a traditional staff like other sheep coaches. he's creating his own world.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2022, 01:50:55 PM
i like it. tang doesn't have a traditional staff like other sheep coaches. he's creating his own world.

It’s basically a direct replica of TTU
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Cire on May 03, 2022, 02:40:59 PM
I imagine we raised a bunch of money for brad that we are using for coaches that have made up positions now.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 03, 2022, 03:44:42 PM
I imagine we raised a bunch of money for brad that we are using for coaches that have made up positions now.
They should have saved it for the NIL bank account.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2022, 09:31:36 PM
I bet these are the x's and o's nerds that let our real coaches go sign dudes
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on May 10, 2022, 08:27:11 AM

These coaches Q&A’s with D. Scott are right up Mr. longform journo’s alley. All these new coaches seem to be major windbags.


https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/1523981771225944064?s=20&t=gFfUnHmOb7T6OKAKvGSOJw


Kim English connection:
Another young man is Kimmy English. Kimmy English is the head coach at George Mason University. I recruited Kimmy to play for me at Montverde Academy. Kimmy was from Baltimore, and he came to me, and he just grew tremendously, but the story about Kimmy is he ended up at Missouri, but I had to dismiss him from Montverde because he had a city mentality in a suburban area. Kimmy's thought process was in city blocks versus miles. We didn't have the resources in place for him, and we had to dismiss him from school, and it changed the course of his life. At the time, I had to take him to the airport. I didn't know if we'd be friends. We're really good friends still to this day. He tells people that was the turning point in his life because that was the hardest thing, we both had to do, was to make that decision, and then Kimmy came out here and had a great career at Missouri.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Trim on May 10, 2022, 08:39:20 AM
These guys will be able to smoothly slide over to MCC.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on June 01, 2022, 11:02:50 AM
what happened to rodney perry?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 01, 2022, 11:04:18 AM
what happened to rodney perry?
I bet we mushed him after his players decided to commit somewhere else.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on June 01, 2022, 06:07:01 PM
The Rodney Perry situation is pretty rough ridin' weird. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: tdaver on June 01, 2022, 08:04:35 PM
He’s coming after some big AAU tourney in July
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on June 02, 2022, 01:34:48 AM
he's always 1 big aau tourney from coaching the cats
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on June 03, 2022, 05:12:16 PM
https://twitter.com/2B_TheEnergyGuy/status/1532741631778205704

Head coach from Memphis Day school which isn't a place where you can pull D1 recruits and I don't expect him to be linked to anybody.  I'm guessing it's a low level position but he seems like a guy that could be a good secondary recruiter.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on June 03, 2022, 05:13:18 PM
https://twitter.com/2B_TheEnergyGuy/status/1532741631778205704

Head coach from Memphis Day school which isn't a place where you can pull D1 recruits and I don't expect him to be linked to anybody.  I'm guessing it's a low level position but he seems like a guy that could be a good secondary recruiter.

Secretary of Energy?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Winters on June 03, 2022, 06:19:19 PM
https://twitter.com/2B_TheEnergyGuy/status/1532741631778205704

Head coach from Memphis Day school which isn't a place where you can pull D1 recruits and I don't expect him to be linked to anybody.  I'm guessing it's a low level position but he seems like a guy that could be a good secondary recruiter.

Secretary of Energy? Zeal
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 04, 2022, 08:07:51 AM
Another dud vs a dude
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 06, 2022, 08:43:26 AM
https://twitter.com/2B_TheEnergyGuy/status/1532741631778205704

Head coach from Memphis Day school which isn't a place where you can pull D1 recruits and I don't expect him to be linked to anybody.  I'm guessing it's a low level position but he seems like a guy that could be a good secondary recruiter.

GA

https://twitter.com/2B_TheEnergyGuy/status/1533636957846351873
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on June 13, 2022, 04:00:36 PM
Coach Chris Lowery - Mo St
Coach Jermaine Henderson - Cleveland State
Coach Shane Southwell - Northern Illinois
Coach oscar Weber -
https://twitter.com/NIUAthletics/status/1536427504633884673?s=20&t=lx9h_PGztUHt9hTZOEVJkQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on June 15, 2022, 03:04:30 PM
Am I the only one that is surprised that Shane Southwell didn’t land a better gig after coming in second for the head coaching job at Kansas state?  I was told that he was a hot name in coaching circles and that we were in danger of losing him as an assistant coach.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on June 15, 2022, 04:44:25 PM
Am I the only one that is surprised that Shane Southwell didn’t land a better gig after coming in second for the head coaching job at Kansas state?  I was told that he was a hot name in coaching circles and that we were in danger of losing him as an assistant coach.

There is no planet in which her was the runner up for the K-State job, he wasn't even considered. This new job is a fine job for his age and experience.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on June 15, 2022, 05:58:28 PM
There’s nothing wrong with an assistant coaching job at Northern Illinois, but this looks like a job that he got with maybe Brad Underwood and/or oscar Weber referrals. I actually expected him to get a P5 assistant coaching job based on word coming out of the recruiting circles that he was a rising star.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on June 16, 2022, 02:47:58 PM
I thought I saw him called Associate head coach somewhere so perhaps he got the #2 gig at NIU.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 12, 2022, 09:46:15 AM

Good look at Rodney Perry. I would’ve put it in the master dudes thread, but unfortunately, all the dudes are committed elsewhere.

https://youtu.be/-4GcJpqhC_E (https://youtu.be/-4GcJpqhC_E)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: j-von on July 21, 2022, 03:42:03 PM
what happened to rodney perry?

He's a K-State b-ball coach apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFdVtiw7Mk
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 21, 2022, 03:43:27 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on July 21, 2022, 03:48:23 PM
Lol


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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 21, 2022, 04:03:03 PM
Currently elevated
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on July 21, 2022, 04:23:31 PM
Bring some DUDES Rod!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on July 21, 2022, 04:27:15 PM
What in the world? Lol.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on July 21, 2022, 04:28:01 PM
Secretary of Dudes?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 22, 2022, 10:40:15 PM
About 8:00 minutes in, Flando says that the Rodney Perry hire should be announced by this time next week. Says he already owns a house in Manhattan.
https://twitter.com/BoscoesBoys/status/1550450463199432704?s=20&t=U18-zaa4q9fH9ifm4BxICQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 25, 2022, 03:31:30 AM
Is this what we were waiting for Rodney Perry to finish before he makes the official move to K state?
https://twitter.com/SLAM_HS/status/1551318903682392065?s=20&t=ShqR5w6JLnvVYwjMobCgcg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 25, 2022, 03:33:09 AM
Strong endorsement from Trae young.
https://twitter.com/TheTraeYoung/status/1551271101510012928?s=20&t=ShqR5w6JLnvVYwjMobCgcg
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 27, 2022, 03:19:27 PM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1552383572778143746?s=20&t=lYMUHmK_YCaoQOmlkJKtLw
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: wetwillie on July 27, 2022, 03:36:23 PM
Time to land some dudes hot Rod
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on July 27, 2022, 04:02:29 PM
https://twitter.com/GrantFlanders/status/1552395949397446658?s=20&t=DlKadpEYKjdVCiLsiMdJsQ
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: nicname on July 27, 2022, 05:09:40 PM
It’s on. We’re about to take over the world.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: Spracne on July 27, 2022, 05:42:15 PM
Perry's a great get. He was even given the title "Assistant Coach," which shows you how important Tang views him.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 28, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
so are we going to be drowning in more dudes than @stunted on a thailand saturday night?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: stunted on July 31, 2022, 11:04:18 AM
so are we going to be drowning in more dudes than @stunted on a thailand saturday night?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/8FxjwI46AQUJvZs7eo/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on August 02, 2022, 09:43:44 AM
Interesting.  https://twitter.com/DYoungRivals/status/1554477240192221184?s=20&t=Ow59GOSDwRZejEkSmR0R5Q
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on August 02, 2022, 10:28:55 AM
https://youtu.be/mfYgnm0hgd4 (https://youtu.be/mfYgnm0hgd4)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 02, 2022, 10:36:13 AM
Nice Boomering, Fitz. Dang technology these days
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on August 02, 2022, 10:43:11 AM
Played for Charlie Spoonhour. Spoon was a phenomenal Coach, but I don’t remember if he was known as a defensive style of play or offensive
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Spoonhour (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Spoonhour)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on August 03, 2022, 12:02:59 AM
Played for Charlie Spoonhour. Spoon was a phenomenal Coach, but I don’t remember if he was known as a defensive style of play or offensive
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Spoonhour (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Spoonhour)
Spoonball baby! They played up and down, very offensive basketball.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: HugeCat on August 14, 2022, 10:45:45 AM
Unless this guy has dudes for relatives, it is a swing and a miss. Doesn’t Keyontae Johnson have any family members we can hire?
[tweet]1558834231752663043[/tweet]
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 14, 2022, 05:24:43 PM
he’s a graduate assistant trying to get a career started, his last position was a volunteer gig.  everyone has to start somewhere.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2022, 08:38:38 PM
he’s a graduate assistant trying to get a career started, his last position was a volunteer gig.  everyone has to start somewhere.

plus we have something like 11 former D1 assistants on weird made-up positions already. This guy seems well-connected to the Dallas area so I see absolutely nothing wrong with it (unless it like kicks out the next curtis kelly or something, and even then it's fine.)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on August 14, 2022, 11:57:37 PM
CK like it, so let it fly