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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #800 on: May 04, 2012, 10:49:06 AM »
Certainly he can pull a page from Frank's playbook and find a fired DOBO, or a USBL legend out there.

you would think....but he's failed at it so far

His daughter's wedding is this weekend. I doubt we'll hear anything until next week. I read somewhere (don't remember where) that he has two interviews scheduled next week. This search has been relatively quiet.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2608

Korn set to join staff

Weber expects Brad Korn, a former player and assistant coach at Southern Illinois, to join his staff in the as Director of Basketball Operations.

“It looks like it will be Brad Korn,” Weber said. “We brought him in for administrative position."

Korn has served as an assistant with the Salukis since 2006, where he worked under current K-State associate head coach Chris Lowery. He played for Weber at SIU.

Weber has one assistant coach opening remaining on his staff. He said he has two candidates in mind for the position, but will likely wait until next week to begin the interview process.


The mid-major transformation is nearly complete.

I like oscar's recipe he's got cooking.  Build up a championship caliber BCS program atmosphere by acting as small time, and hiring as many small time people from small time programs as possible!
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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #801 on: May 04, 2012, 05:57:33 PM »
Hopefully we're gonna get a guy out of a Juco no one has ever heard of, ya know, the Underwood route.


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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #802 on: May 05, 2012, 02:45:57 AM »
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well. 

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« Reply #803 on: May 05, 2012, 06:13:18 AM »
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well.

Just out of curiosity...and a little queasiness and terror...Why? Insight please.

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« Reply #804 on: May 05, 2012, 10:31:59 AM »
In fairness, at this point oscar Weber has probably tried to hire a number of talented and qualified assistants and is now looking at the bottom of his list.  Nobody who has a future will go anywhere near him.  That goes for coaches and players as well.

In oscar's defense, our AD is a cheap ass, so I'm guessing he can only reach out to people on the bottom of his list because that's all we'll pay for.

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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #805 on: May 05, 2012, 12:42:09 PM »
to be fair to oscar, and in his defense, not many people want to work for the nazis in this day and age.  at least not at a school like kansas state.
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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #806 on: May 06, 2012, 08:03:18 PM »
Powercat, oscar Weber was a disaster at Illinois.  Everybody knows it but nobody will say it (not in the press at least).  He greatly regressed as a coach while at Illinois.  I think the problem is that his recruiting initially was just embarrassing.  He went after and lost point guards like Austin Jackson, Sherron Collins, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose and probably others.  He always used excuses like nobody wants to sit behind Dee and Deron and some of those players were bought and paid for but his recruiting was beyond awful the first three years.

At that point we knew he would probably fail.  And rather than accept this and try to do the best with what he had, oscar had to make it so it was not his fault.  He always made excuses but in his head he was responsible for getting us to the title game.  His ego and head grew three sizes.  He could not accept that maybe he wasn't the reason we made the title game.  He insulted our program, bragging about how he used to beat us when he was at Purdue (as an assistant).  He insulted the fans when they would criticize him on really obvious issues.  He dug his heels in and refused to eat a slice of humble pie. At the height of his hypocracy he spent years ripping the players claiming if you tell them to do things and they don't do it there is nothing a coach can do.  But he still bragged about getting to the title game because it was the furthest we had ever gotten.  Which one is it oscar?  You can't blame the kids when you lose but brag about your coaching when you win.

The worst part of it all was the lack of discipline for his team.  Luther Head allegedly walked into an unlocked apartment with a couple friends and took stuff.  Luther got a slap on the wrist. I somewhat understand at least nobody was hurt.  But then Jamar Smith gets drunk crashes his car and leaves teammate Brian Carlwell for dead.  Carlwell suffered a life threatening concussion and was probably never the same.  And yet Jamar stayed on the team.  How can a coach justify that?  What does it take to get thrown off of oscar Weber's team?

The chemistry issues continued.  Shaun Pruitt was a dick and a selfish teammate.  He thought he was an NBA lottery pick.  Weber kept him on the team despite putrid chemistry.  Not coincidentally Pruitt was cut and sent home by his first professional team after graduating for acting like a clown.  It's what most coaches would have done (I hope Shaun has gotten it together).

This past season we had another delusional players Brandon Paul act out because of the attention a legit NBA prospect Meyers Leonard was getting.  oscar had no way to control it. 

For the past 6 years I can say only a couple players have improved on oscar Weber's watch.

His eye for talent is just awful.  He passedon Lewis Jackson and even worse Robbie Hummul (a U of I legacy oscar Weber told was not Big Ten caliber.) You know about Jacob Pullen.  He also let Pargo and others slip away.  He recruited to unathletic and slow guys in Mike Tisdale and Bill Cole to have big roles in our offense because they were tremendous set shooters.  But they were awful atmost everything else.

All the while oscar kept throwing his players under the bus.  All the while he ran the same predictable offense that tesms knew was coming (but which he claimed was unstoppable).  We had games earlier this year when Weber never tried to post his NBA bound 7 footer. 

At this point Weber has no credibilty in the recruiting/coaching world right now.  Look at the top 100 talent that does not improve.  Look at Jerome Richmond's career.  Look at how his assistants at Illinois couldn't find head coaching jobs since Chris Lowery years and years ago.  Look at how McClain and Price two assistants last year cannot find basketball employment.  What coach in his right mind would trust Weber with his career?  Look at the comment Weber told the paper about Jay Price needing to figure out if he is staying a basketball coach.  That comment killed what little career Jay Price had left.

Just remember that oscar Weber ran a clown show at Illinois.  He should have been fired three years ago.  And whatever he says ...don't buy it.  Meyers Leonard will go first round but oscar had nothing to do with it.  Meyers improved leaps and bounds after playing for Coach K last summer.  If Weber had fed him the ball enough he would have gone lottery

Remember Weber has friends in coaching but talk is cheap. Is Weber winning games lately?  Are his players improving?  I hope your sports writers do better calling out the truth than ours did.

Good luck to you guys.  Your coach is toxic within the profession.  I'll be rooting for you guys in football and for you to get a respectable coach sooner than later.  I hope he doesn't last 9 years in Manhattan as he did at Illinois.

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« Reply #807 on: May 06, 2012, 08:08:21 PM »
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.

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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #808 on: May 06, 2012, 09:59:53 PM »
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.

Yeah, either Illinois has the loseriest dorkstore fans or this is a sock with way too much rough ridin' time on his hands.

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« Reply #809 on: May 06, 2012, 10:31:37 PM »
Powercat, oscar Weber was a disaster at Illinois.  Everybody knows it but nobody will say it (not in the press at least).  He greatly regressed as a coach while at Illinois.  I think the problem is that his recruiting initially was just embarrassing.  He went after and lost point guards like Austin Jackson, Sherron Collins, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose and probably others.  He always used excuses like nobody wants to sit behind Dee and Deron and some of those players were bought and paid for but his recruiting was beyond awful the first three years.

At that point we knew he would probably fail.  And rather than accept this and try to do the best with what he had, oscar had to make it so it was not his fault.  He always made excuses but in his head he was responsible for getting us to the title game.  His ego and head grew three sizes.  He could not accept that maybe he wasn't the reason we made the title game.  He insulted our program, bragging about how he used to beat us when he was at Purdue (as an assistant).  He insulted the fans when they would criticize him on really obvious issues.  He dug his heels in and refused to eat a slice of humble pie. At the height of his hypocracy he spent years ripping the players claiming if you tell them to do things and they don't do it there is nothing a coach can do.  But he still bragged about getting to the title game because it was the furthest we had ever gotten.  Which one is it oscar?  You can't blame the kids when you lose but brag about your coaching when you win.

The worst part of it all was the lack of discipline for his team.  Luther Head allegedly walked into an unlocked apartment with a couple friends and took stuff.  Luther got a slap on the wrist. I somewhat understand at least nobody was hurt.  But then Jamar Smith gets drunk crashes his car and leaves teammate Brian Carlwell for dead.  Carlwell suffered a life threatening concussion and was probably never the same.  And yet Jamar stayed on the team.  How can a coach justify that?  What does it take to get thrown off of oscar Weber's team?

The chemistry issues continued.  Shaun Pruitt was a dick and a selfish teammate.  He thought he was an NBA lottery pick.  Weber kept him on the team despite putrid chemistry.  Not coincidentally Pruitt was cut and sent home by his first professional team after graduating for acting like a clown.  It's what most coaches would have done (I hope Shaun has gotten it together).

This past season we had another delusional players Brandon Paul act out because of the attention a legit NBA prospect Meyers Leonard was getting.  oscar had no way to control it. 

For the past 6 years I can say only a couple players have improved on oscar Weber's watch.

His eye for talent is just awful.  He passedon Lewis Jackson and even worse Robbie Hummul (a U of I legacy oscar Weber told was not Big Ten caliber.) You know about Jacob Pullen.  He also let Pargo and others slip away.  He recruited to unathletic and slow guys in Mike Tisdale and Bill Cole to have big roles in our offense because they were tremendous set shooters.  But they were awful atmost everything else.

All the while oscar kept throwing his players under the bus.  All the while he ran the same predictable offense that tesms knew was coming (but which he claimed was unstoppable).  We had games earlier this year when Weber never tried to post his NBA bound 7 footer. 

At this point Weber has no credibilty in the recruiting/coaching world right now.  Look at the top 100 talent that does not improve.  Look at Jerome Richmond's career.  Look at how his assistants at Illinois couldn't find head coaching jobs since Chris Lowery years and years ago.  Look at how McClain and Price two assistants last year cannot find basketball employment.  What coach in his right mind would trust Weber with his career?  Look at the comment Weber told the paper about Jay Price needing to figure out if he is staying a basketball coach.  That comment killed what little career Jay Price had left.

Just remember that oscar Weber ran a clown show at Illinois.  He should have been fired three years ago.  And whatever he says ...don't buy it.  Meyers Leonard will go first round but oscar had nothing to do with it.  Meyers improved leaps and bounds after playing for Coach K last summer.  If Weber had fed him the ball enough he would have gone lottery

Remember Weber has friends in coaching but talk is cheap. Is Weber winning games lately?  Are his players improving?  I hope your sports writers do better calling out the truth than ours did.

Good luck to you guys.  Your coach is toxic within the profession.  I'll be rooting for you guys in football and for you to get a respectable coach sooner than later.  I hope he doesn't last 9 years in Manhattan as he did at Illinois.

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« Reply #810 on: May 06, 2012, 10:39:16 PM »
good info, itd.  it sounds like weber's problems largely stem from poor talent evaluation and the nazi ideology.
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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #811 on: May 07, 2012, 09:06:30 AM »
[oscar Weber sucks, etc.]

Guys, do you think that maybe JugofSnyder got confused when he was talking to his "sources" and they were really talking about oscar but he assumed they were talking about Frank?  I mean, you know what they say about assuming...

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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #812 on: May 07, 2012, 09:20:09 AM »
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

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« Reply #813 on: May 07, 2012, 09:22:02 AM »
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

Yeah, how long until a Help Wanted ad hits the papers? 

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Re: Assistant Coach Rumor Thread
« Reply #814 on: May 07, 2012, 09:36:00 AM »
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

Yeah, how long until a Help Wanted ad hits the papers?

I've stopped caring at this point.  Whoever they line up for the fourth spot is going to be a complete no-name anyhow.

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« Reply #815 on: May 07, 2012, 09:36:09 AM »
Hey man, it takes time to go through Frank's files on USBL legends, fired DOBO's and NJCAA Div II assistants.


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« Reply #816 on: May 07, 2012, 09:45:46 AM »
What website was it where Basketball Ops people put up requests for scheduling?  I wouldn't be shocked if we had a banner ad up there

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« Reply #817 on: May 07, 2012, 09:55:41 AM »
HELP WANTED:

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« Reply #818 on: May 07, 2012, 09:58:16 AM »
Hey man, it takes time to go through Frank's files on USBL legends, fired DOBO's and NJCAA Div II assistants.

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« Reply #819 on: May 07, 2012, 10:29:58 AM »
Its been over a month and we don't have a full staff yet.  This is ridiculous

I'd be more upset if the first two guys were really bad.

Lowery and AB3 aren't that bad, though.

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« Reply #820 on: May 07, 2012, 10:39:53 AM »
You know as #TeamButtHurt continues to show tremendous staying power, I once again lament the fact that oscar Weber has hired a former Division 1 head coach, a sitting D1 assistant . . . as an assistant etc. etc. 

Because #TeamButtHurt would have gone ThermoNuclear over a:

-Fired DOBO

-USBL Legend with seemingly no collegiate coaching experience at all. 

-No where Junior College Assistant Coach.

But #TeamButtHurt won't let that stop them.  In fact, Frank walked into a self made staff . . . based on anyone he hired after that, dang, I can't imagine what kind of rocks Frank would have been over turning having to hire a staff from scratch.  Needless to say, some Brown-Mackie assistant would be getting a major pay raise.




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« Reply #821 on: May 07, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »
I wish we had hired a guy that didn't have butthurt fans of his ex school feeling the need to follow him to his new schools boards and keep talking crap.

It was cute at first, but no more.

Yeah, either Illinois has the loseriest dorkstore fans or this is a sock with way too much rough ridin' time on his hands.

Have fun with Jim Gross you sham of a never was program. Weber took you further than you've ever been and ever will go. Go spend 2000 words validating your fire on orangeni or whatever.

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« Reply #822 on: May 07, 2012, 11:25:30 AM »
I'm Butthurt because the only way Weber is going to succeed in Manhattan is if he can recruit talent.

And the two recruiters with a proven reputation that were to join the staff, we lost out on to basketball powers SMU and LSU.

That's just me, though. 
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« Reply #823 on: May 07, 2012, 11:35:40 AM »
I'm Butthurt because the only way Weber is going to succeed in Manhattan is if he can recruit talent.

And the two recruiters with a proven reputation that were to join the staff, we lost out on to basketball powers SMU and LSU.

That's just me, though.

In retrospect, I was much more upset about Forrest than Howard.

I get Howard going to SMU to coach under Brown.  If it's true that we just didn't want to pay Forrest enough, yeah, that makes me pretty angry.

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« Reply #824 on: May 07, 2012, 11:35:59 AM »
good info, itd.  it sounds like weber's problems largely stem from poor talent evaluation and the nazi ideology.

You know at the nazi camps when they'd made the jews run to see who was healthy and then they'd kill the ones that weren't healthy? I bet Weber was really bad at judging who was healthy.