i think a reasonable argument could be made that weber only had success at siu because of young rising start matt painter. i'm on the fence w/ this whole jank v weber thing though. obviously painter is easily the best of the three though and was with weber the whole time during his siu success.
So the "Matt Painter good coaching" rubbed off and carried over to the first few years at Illinois and then wore off?
i am pretty sure that painter is and was the best coach on that siu staff and that if illinois would've hired painter that he would've done everything oscar weber did and more. plus he would still be employed there. i'll readily admit that i didn't understand your question though.
Again, Painter > Weber.
I was just implying that since Weber left Painter at SIU when he went to Illinois and was successful for several years without him and coached in the NC game, that Painter's "good coaching effect" must have rubbed off for a couple years on Weber before it wore off.
Look, I get being very cautious because of Weber's last 5 years at Illinois were pedestrian at best. I understand why that alone makes many think he was a terrible hire.
But to do anything and everything to discredit any success he had there early seems silly to me. It seems there are 100 reasons that Illinois played in the NC game his 2nd year there, and his coaching is about #97 on the list.
