Assistant Coach Rumor Thread

[Belvis Noland]

Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

[Cire]

Anyone  that cares about winning the conference while seff is at ku is a ducking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[michigancat]

Anyone  that cares about winning the conference while seff is at ku is a ducking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Come on. You and I both know that if Frank sits Angel in the second half of the first Baylor game, it's net-cutting city in March.

[sonofdaxjones]

Rest easy oscar Weber . . . 5th place is good enough!!

[MakeItRain]

Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.

[Cire]

Rest easy oscar Weber . . . 5th place is good enough!!

Tourney every year if the schedule is right

[michigancat]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

[beefpac]

Can someone point me in the direction of the Assistant Coach Rumor Thread?  I must have taken a wrong turn at the Korn field. 

TIA

 

[Skipper44]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

If Angel actually stays I expect us to compete, Quincy Miller's departure can only help. 

By compete I mean a conference regular season similar to Mu's past season.  This may be unrealistic but our talent/experience combo is second only to KU and oscar did show the ability to stay out the way of a talented and experienced team.

[Bill Clarahan]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

If Angel actually stays I expect us to compete, Quincy Miller's departure can only help. 

By compete I mean a conference regular season similar to Mu's past season.  This may be unrealistic but our talent/experience combo is second only to KU and oscar did show the ability to stay out the way of a talented and experienced team.

Sorry to break it to ya, we don't have the kind of players Self left behind

[Belvis Noland]

Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.

 

I seriously had no idea you were such an Internet hardass. 

[Barry McCockner]

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

You are seriously undervaluing Frank as a coach. oscar Weber is a huge downgrade.

Belvis is a well documented anfi-frankite.  He is clearly going full tard for oscar because he isn't Frank.  Belvis doesn't seem like a guy to waiver from a stance when he takes it.  I look forward to seeing how he justifies not being entertained by oscar Weber November basketball.  Dax on the other hand hates everyone, whenever the transition to hating Weber comes it will be really easy for him.

No I didn't hate Frank, I just chose to live in reality.   I don't hate Weber,  but I am not that thrilled with what's going on, and will fire with both barrels when the appropriate time comes.   Less than 1 month of the guy being on campus is not the appropriate time.   Had Frank walked out the door leaving behind a conference championship banner and a Final Four banner, I'd probably be more on the extremely butthurt side, like most people on here.   But he didn't, he was good coach, a mediocre recruiter, who went to the NCAA tourney regularly, and had 1 nice NCAA tourney run.   Something that's happened during the tenure of five other K-State coaches (and then some in several cases . . . LOL again at Frank's "coaching graveyard" comments).   I don't think its tuckish or respectish at all to give a guy who has a Final Four ring, and a conference championship ring from a BCS conference (of which Frank Martin has NEITHER) the benefit of the doubt just 3.5 weeks into his tenure at K-State.   Sometimes things just don't work out at a place but the guy didn't compile a 313-155 record on the D1 level by being a complete idiot. 

Everybody is bitching and moaning about the staff, and about the recruiting, so once again lets review Frank Martin's recruiting once Bob Huggins walked out that door:

Ron Anderson (Franked)
Andre Gilbert (Franked)
Jamar Samuels 
Buchi Awaji 
Abdul Herrera    (Franked)
Jo 
Tay Irving 
Wally Judge  then (Franked)
McGruber 
Nick Russell (Franked)
Freddy Asprilla  (Franked)
Juevol Myles  (Franked)
Shane Southwell 
Will Spradling 
Nino Williams 
Robert Upshaw aka African American Jason Bennett
Laimonas Chatkevicius 

Dax - As it related to Jason Bennett, it should be "Aferican"

[Panjandrum]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

[MakeItRain]

Well, MIR, like I said earlier, there were things I hated about the Martin era and things I liked.  Like, for instance, I thought franks offensive basketball IQ and his Xs and Os were dog crap terrible.  I also think his early season "lessons" he taught our roster every year cost us any shot at a conference title by the end of January every season.  If that makes me a Frankite so be it.  If you disagree with me, your either a dumbass or you don't watch much KState basketball.  on the flip side, I felt that the players really respected him and played hard for him.  Which I really liked, among many other things.

As I recall, however, all of my comments on this topic were pretty much contained to a thread that was started thus past season about whether frank could ever win a conference title with his coaching style.  If you want to play Internet Detective and investigate all of my prior posting, knock yourself out.

No dude, you weren't a Frankite, you were the opposite.  The only thing you liked about the Frank Martin era is that the players played hard, but you liked nothing about how he made that happen, got it.

I don't have to dig up anything fact is that the only time you posted during basketball season was to complain about something Frank did.  We could take a roll call of everyone you argued with durnig basketball season, but it isn't necessary, the answer is everyone but big willie, your red ass during basketball season made Zacker seem like an avowed Frankite.

 

I seriously had no idea you were such an Internet hardass.

That response had absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.  "internet hardass?"  I completely missed where I threatened you, postured, PIed or anything else that someone would associate with being an "internet hardass."

That was a shitty attempt at diverting the topic.  Since you've tapped on my posts will you answer the last two questions that Rusty has posed, or is questioning you at all considered internet badassness?

[michigancat]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

wow. OK.

[sonofdaxjones]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

[kso_FAN]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

I'm not going to call my shot, but I don't think its impossible to believe either.

[Cire]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

New coaches struggle.  I'm preparing myself for a trainwreck season with the icecream man as the conductor.

Sprads will probably play really hard though.

[chum1]

lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

to be fair, people would have bitched about frank's assistants had they been butthurt at the time.

ultimately, though, everyone shot their wad early and butthurt over weber's assisstants was tempered by butthurt over weber not hiring assistants fast enough.  it's an unfortunate situation.

[michigancat]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

Oh wait a second, this team has gone from "they should contend for a league title and there's no reason why they shouldn't make a run to the Sweet 16" to serious doubts about any of that . . . just because oscar Weber is the coach? 

And lets review the list of assistants under Frank, knock out the ultimately overpaid TeHill, and then take a look at the rest of the collective, roll back the clock 4-5 years . . . on paper, not impressive in the slightest.   Outside of former Florida Junior College assistant coach Brad Underwood, who was only known because of his K-State history, pretty much a group of "who the eff are these guys"?

 A simple "no" would have sufficed.

[michigancat]

Will anyone go on record as saying they think oscar will contend for a conference title while he's here?

Dax, I'm looking at you!

That's kind of vague, but sure, I bet he finishes in the Top 3 and less than two games out of first at least once while he's here.

I'll be that guy.

I'm not going to call my shot, but I don't think its impossible to believe either.

#notimpossibletobelieve
#nosotroscreemos
#ourtime

[steve dave]

Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one. 

[michigancat]

Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one.

Frank never contended for a conference title.

[steve dave]

Well, I mean, Frank was:

3rd
T–4th
T–2nd
T–3rd
5th

in conference.  And the year he tied for second we were, like, 4 games out of first.  I guess it comes down to what you mean by "contend".  If you would say that Frank contended for a conference title then I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that oscar could contend for one.

Frank never contended for a conference title.

ok, then I don't think oscar will either

[steve dave]

also, lol at Frank's conference finishes and our treatment of him.  OMG we were a bunch of dumbfucks.