Assistant Coach Rumor Thread

[michigancat]

Evans was about as "wait and see" as they come.  Te left and EMAWs went off the deep end.  We wanted another Te and ended up promoting a grad assistant named Evans.  We were dissapointed.  We settled.  He turned out to be OK. 

Funny how history changes on this board.     

Dalonte leaving didn't get much of a meltdown at all:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12949.0


And you're right about people "waiting and seeing" w/ LaMont:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=13167.0

But it's easier to swallow because Frank and Figger were doing a pretty good job.

[sonofdaxjones]

Is Upshaw even going to qualify?

Darrell Johnson comes with more listed D1 offers than about half of Frank's recruits, and I'll even toss out 1, maybe 2 (albeit I don't see why a school would waste a late official visit on a guy they didn't intend to offer) of those offers listed.   The kid lists 3 official visits to: Big 12, ACC, Big 10 schools.

Yet the perpetually butthurt crowd is going to deem the Weber regime an utter failure and declare the Frank Martin regime virtually unprecedented in K-State basketball history . . . an era that hung exactly ZERO banners, and put exactly ZERO trophies of significance in the trophy case.

[ChiComCat]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

[Belvis Noland]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

[michigancat]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans.

I wouldn't have cared if Frank was recruiting nothing but 1 star DITR's as long as he took them to the tournament every year. Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

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Yet the perpetually butthurt crowd is going to deem the Weber regime an utter failure and declare the Frank Martin regime virtually unprecedented in K-State basketball history . . . an era that hung exactly ZERO banners, and put exactly ZERO trophies of significance in the trophy case.

No more toocoolforschool'rs?

It was unprecedented in my EMAW life.

[kso_FAN]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans.

I wouldn't have cared if Frank was recruiting nothing but 1 star DITR's as long as he took them to the tournament every year. Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

The last three years his recruiting wasn't bad. (Which actually makes the lack of success worse.)

[Mixed-Nutz]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Who did Figger land??? Nick and Gip, who else?

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.

[Belvis Noland]

Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank.

oscar Weber could recruit a team with more talent than the Lakers and I would still hate his guts if he couldn't even make the NIT with them.

[sys]

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.

 

[MakeItRain]

Te living wasn't a big deal. Pipeline to kstate had ended. He might do fine at Maryland,  but wasn't happening here. I did want to spend that money on another big recruiter tho, don't know what's wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with giving $$$ to a recruiter.  Just commenting on how Weber is thrown under the bus for swinging and missing on Howard but Frank's given a free pass on Lamont Evans. 

Frank was given a pass on Evans because Frank and Figger were doing pretty well recruiting.

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

[ChiComCat]

Weber recruited like crap at Illinois and missed the NIT. It stands to reason that if he continues to recruit like crap here, we will also have embarrassingly bad years.

Weber's final three recruiting classes ranked #11 ('11), #13 ('10), #14 ('09). 

He didn't manage his recruiting classes very well, leaving him with a couple of very young teams.  But, he got talent.  Much moreso than Frank. 

Those final 3 years were all once Howard got there.  Howard is not at K-State

[MakeItRain]

Also I thought we already established that unproven is better than established losers?

[steve dave]

Also I thought we already established that unproven is better than established losers?

well, you can't complain about the last two names on oscar's list then because they are unproven if they're anything

[Belvis Noland]

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

[MakeItRain]

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

I think the issue is WHO Weber is losing his assistant coach targets to.  Also he's been on the job for a month and the only assistant formally announced is the S&C coach.  Every other staff is out evaluating and Weber is interviewing his 48th choice from Sam Houston State.  If Frank took a month and 39 nos to hire Evans people would have been pissed.

[Dr Rick Daris]

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

[sonofdaxjones]

Just watched some of Robert "African American Jason Bennett" Upshaw's "highlight" videos.

So that's a "prized recruit"?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Just watched some of Robert "African American Jason Bennett" Upshaw's "highlight" videos.

So that's a "prized recruit"?

Bigs are pretty tough to evaluate. He definitely is raw, though, and he wasn't going to be a big contributor next year.

[Mikeyis4dcats]

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

I think the issue is WHO Weber is losing his assistant coach targets to.  Also he's been on the job for a month and the only assistant formally announced is the S&C coach.  Every other staff is out evaluating and Weber is interviewing his 48th choice from Sam Houston State.  If Frank took a month and 39 nos to hire Evans people would have been pissed.

Lowery is official.

[beefpac]

And because Evans was recruiting for one year, and landed the one prized recruit he was asked to land.  He was batting 1.000, there was no free pass needed.

Right, so moral of the story... let's wait and see who Weber's assistant coaches recruit before judging them a success or failure.  Just like we all did with Frank, Figger, and Evans.   

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

Those are some seriously long sentences. 

Carry on. 

[Belvis Noland]

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

[Dr Rick Daris]

if i walk into a room and there are dead people all over the place covered in blood and there is one living person and he looks crazy and strung out and has a huge knife in his hand with blood on the knife and blood dripping from his hands and he sees me and starts runnings towards me while simultaneously bringing up the arm that the knife is in up over his head...should i wait and see if he's going to kill me too or should i turn around and run? weber took over a basketball team that had five future nba players on it and then promptly produced two of the worst years in school history within nine years before being fired. you can stay in the room and try to ask the guy what happened and hope like heck that he's not the serial killer you think he is all you want, but i won't. i don't need to. there's already enough evidence for me to conclude that he is.

If your buddy drove his mom's Toyota Avalon (low miles and leather seats) for 5 years because he didn't make enough money to buy his own car but he always bitched about having to drive his mom's car because it wasn't even a convertible, it had a noticeable rattle somewhere by the front passenger floor speaker, and he couldn't spit game because it was an old person car and then he totalled his car and had to go buy a new car and ended up buying a Nissan Maxima mith more miles and he was always, constantly bitching about how his new ride wouldn't ever come close to comparing to his mom's Avalon because his mom's Avalon was so completely badass because it was a limited edition convertible and his game was so tight in that car that he couldn't beat the girls away with a stick, would you call your friend out as being full of crap?  I mean, I would.  I'd say, dude, you drove an Avalon for 5 years, what are you complaining about?  It's not like you were driving an Audi or a Benz.  And you didn't have the money to buy an Audi or a Benz.     

look...both of our analogies are horrible and i'm personally sorry to everyone for starting the analogy war. at the end of the day, it's a great thing for you that you are interested in kstate bball and think weber can do well. i wish i could switch my brain to think that way but i can't. it's not possible.