Assistant Coach Rumor Thread

[Mr Bread]

I have not traced its veracity all the way back to a primary source, but it's attributed to Bubbles on all the internet "Inspirational Quote" collections, so I'm taking it as true.
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It's legit.  It's from after one of Dr. oscar's abortions this season.

[pissclams]

it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

[Rage Against the McKee]

it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.

[pissclams]

it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.

give me directions to the fantasy land you live in where Doug actually brought in a staff and I will let him know

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

[wetwillie]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

[ChiComCat]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.

Started what . . . the incredible recruiting pipeline that followed?   

[catzacker]

I don't think pointing out that the current staff is just as garbage as the last staff should be listed as a positve under someone who makes me uncomfortable.  It's like choosing one hooker over another because she has less crabs.

[CNS]

Yeah, how could we possibly replace those X and O'ing/developing/Recruiting elites of:

Brad Underwood

Matt Figger

Lamont Evans

Andy Assaley

Who wants to just flat out admit they're a liar by calling that list "impressive"?

 

If you said here you get to either take this staff now or you get whatever potential staff oscar hires I'm taking that staff.

This wasn't a compare the staff's post . . . it is about the fact that previous staff of assistants came into the program with neither the name recognition nor anything of significance on their resume.  It seemed to work out okay.

The staff that came in did have recognition of Te/Beas.  That helped start it.

Started what . . . the incredible recruiting pipeline that followed?   

Dax, as much as you are trying to depants several of us who are complaining about the current sitch we are in, you are looking pretty silly yourself in minimizing the last 5 yrs.

[ChiComCat]

Beas/Jamar/McGruder/Anderson/Sutton - Anyone I'm missing?  I would take that group, only Anderson was kinda a bust I wouldn't even say that since he was out after a year and was big in the NCAA tourney win.

Franks initial coaches were not necessarily super elite, but were quite a bit better than Weber's incoming coaches.  His coaches on the way out were arguably a bit better, but at that point, Frank was a known personality/successful coach.  Weber is known, but has no personality and limited success.

[kso_FAN]

The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.

[Trim]

hard to be overly optimistic.

[kso_FAN]

hard to be overly optimistic.

Yeah, we all get disappointed. I was hoping for something like Howard or even Jones and its frustrating to be forced to settle. A young coach, even from smaller schools, could be really good if he has the right connections, but a known commodity would've been better.

[Cire]

The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.

that's an effing big if.

[kso_FAN]

The current staff situation is disappointing. We'll see what happens, but its hard to be overly optimistic.

The previous staff had plenty of issues (certainly recruiting), but they proved along with Frank to get teams to play really hard and tough and that led to yearly stretches of Frankruary and winning and NCAA tournaments.

If the new staff does that for 4 of 5 years then they will also get a pass.

that's an effing big if.

Of course it is, I'm just saying that's why Frank's staff got a pass.

[sys]

Of course it is, I'm just saying that's why Frank's staff got a pass.

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.

[Belvis Noland]

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.

I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 

[Underdog Wildcat]

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.

I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive.

Huggins offered and signed Pullen. Hill was his lead recruiter. Retaining Martin and Hill kept Jake in the fold. Good for everybody involved.

[michigancat]

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.

I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 

I would say Upshaw and Gipson (part of your others) blow anyone Rencher or Brooks III has ever recruited out of the water. They are definitely far better recruits than the mediocre PF whom I am intentionally forgetting his name.

[Rage Against the McKee]

it's impossible to assemble a quality staff after the hatchet job that martin did inside of the coaching circles, to our school

Tell that to Doug Gottlieb.

give me directions to the fantasy land you live in where Doug actually brought in a staff and I will let him know

DO YOU THINK DOUG DIDN'T ALREADY MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS???

[MakeItRain]

that, and that they were pretty rough ridin' good.  they didn't have names when they came in, but they turned out to be good.  kinda like ar-t.  martin had a good eye for both coaches and players.

I'm dissapointed with the staff, thus far.  No question.  I wanted Howard.  Somebody tied into an AAU pipeline. 

That being said, wtf are people defending Martin's staff sans Te?  Seriously. 

Brad Underwood was HC Daytona Beach CC
Matt Figger - AC South Alabama
Lamont Evans - enough said. 

Te delivered DC Assault.  Frank delivered Angel, Denis, Kelly and Pullen (I think).  Underwood, Figger and Evans delivered everybody else.  That "everybody else" list is pretty unimpressive. 

I would say Upshaw and Gipson (part of your others) blow anyone Rencher or Brooks III has ever recruited out of the water. They are definitely far better recruits than the mediocre PF whom I am intentionally forgetting his name.

Yeah not sure why people are killing Evans, he had a damn good year.  Upshaw is far better than anyone that 'Te landed the last 4 years.

[Belvis Noland]

Evans was about as "wait and see" as they come.  Te left and EMAWs went off the deep end.  We wanted another Te and ended up promoting a grad assistant named Evans.  We were dissapointed.  We settled.  He turned out to be OK. 

Funny how history changes on this board.     

[Cire]

Hey guys, If oscar weber just wins games we'll be fine.  If he just recruits talented players we'll be fine.