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BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« on: April 07, 2012, 12:17:51 PM »
How do I know this? Because he doesn't think he did anything wrong at Illinois! I mean my god, the man got fired and thinks it was just bad luck and he gave the school the best 9 year stretch in school history! The complete lack of self-awareness and acknowledgement of failure should scare the crap out of you weberites.

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I think if you go back, it's probably the best nine-year run in the history of the school or at least close.

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On what went wrong at Illinois last season…
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We had a young team.  Six freshmen and one returning starter.  We had eight straight games decided by four or less points.  We won them early and did not win them late.  The disappointment of a lot of close losses takes its toll.  It happens, we went through some growing pains, but ironically I was told that if we had won two games in the Big Ten Tournament, we would have been in the NCAA Tournament.  Our RPI was high, we had eight or nine top-100 wins.  Ohio State is playing today [in the National Semifinals] and we beat them.  It did not all go wrong, but there were some pretty positive things there.  I felt like we had a great foundation on young players and I felt we could have had a pretty good team in the future.


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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 12:19:51 PM »
 :sdeek: BURN IT DOWN!

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »
Just joking. He's probably the best coach we've EVER  had.  :comeatme:

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BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 12:30:33 PM »
Maybe he will change on accident without realizing it :dunno:

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 12:41:30 PM »
He's like the anti-Frank.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 01:27:58 PM »
Of course he won't change.  You should have added the, We're going to run and gun and jack up threes... psyke quote.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 01:28:42 PM »
I just really hope the illinois posters were right and that he will point fingers at players as the bus back over them in the press conf. 

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 02:07:33 PM »
How do I know this? Because he doesn't think he did anything wrong at Illinois! I mean my god, the man got fired and thinks it was just bad luck and he gave the school the best 9 year stretch in school history! The complete lack of self-awareness and acknowledgement of failure should scare the crap out of you weberites.

hard to argue with this, which, again, is why i was taken aback when he said the toughest question john currie asked him during the interview process was, "why kansas state?"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, what did you learn, and how will you change?" you're right, i don't get the impression that oscar will be doing much soul searching over what went wrong at illinois. which is too bad, because i think he IS a good coach and can easily figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong if he spent some time thinking about it.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 02:22:41 PM »
How do I know this? Because he doesn't think he did anything wrong at Illinois! I mean my god, the man got fired and thinks it was just bad luck and he gave the school the best 9 year stretch in school history! The complete lack of self-awareness and acknowledgement of failure should scare the crap out of you weberites.

hard to argue with this, which, again, is why i was taken aback when he said the toughest question john currie asked him during the interview process was, "why kansas state?"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, what did you learn, and how will you change?" you're right, i don't get the impression that oscar will be doing much soul searching over what went wrong at illinois. which is too bad, because i think he IS a good coach and can easily figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong if he spent some time thinking about it.

he's too busy guzzling fountain drinks and jamming convenience store food down his throat to be reflective.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 02:25:33 PM »
He's effing adorable

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 02:29:22 PM »
Breaking?   :lol:

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 02:31:15 PM »
BTW, fwiw, his hand shake looks pretty firm there.  :eye:

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
because i think he IS a good coach and can easily figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong if he spent some time thinking about it.

j rake, he seems incredibly stupid and completely lacking in self awareness, so i don't understand what could make you conclude that he could easily figure out what went wrong.

i can understand why people like yourself might find him appealing in a "a puppy is cute because it does what it wants and doesn't care who's watching" sort of bumbling custardy way, but expecting him to change or figure something out seems far-fetched.
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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 03:10:20 PM »
I'm with Sys.  For him to find out what went wrong, he has to think something went wrong.  The indication from the presser is he somehow found 6 freshman on his team this last season and thus lost too many close games.  He has said his 9 years at Illinois were the school's best ever.  He thinks he was blameless in it all.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 03:13:05 PM »
Not to mention, he was 7-7 in games decided by 6 or less (or OT), so really wasn't getting screwed in close games either

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2012, 03:13:45 PM »
because i think he IS a good coach and can easily figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong if he spent some time thinking about it.

j rake, he seems incredibly stupid and completely lacking in self awareness, so i don't understand what could make you conclude that he could easily figure out what went wrong.

i can understand why people like yourself might find him appealing in a "a puppy is cute because it does what it wants and doesn't care who's watching" sort of bumbling custardy way, but expecting him to change or figure something out seems far-fetched.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 03:17:51 PM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 03:28:43 PM »
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we worked extremely hard at our jobs and just didn't win.
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2012, 03:33:35 PM »
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i take from it that things run in cycles.  we were in a down cycle, though we have some young kids on an upward trend.
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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2012, 04:59:01 PM »
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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 05:37:09 PM »

Mods, please change thread title from "BREAKING" to "E! NEWS STYLE CONJECTURE BROUGHT TO YOU BY MICHIsysMARIOLOPEZ"
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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2012, 08:40:23 PM »
he's 55. living is his main concern from here on out, not changing.

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Re: BREAKING: WEBER WON'T CHANGE
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2012, 11:46:11 PM »
If this thread is just everyones opinion then here's mine FWIW. 

   oscar seems to feel like everyone was against him or conspiring behind his back.  I know there have been times when I knew it was my fault crap went wrong.  Although I didn't let others know it.  Because in my mind it would have made me look weak.  I knew what I needed to change.  I just told people germane to the situation that I was correcting my mistakes.  What do you want him to do?  Have a presser just to hammer home his weaknesses and break him down further.

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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2012, 09:17:03 AM »
If this thread is just everyones opinion then here's mine FWIW. 

   oscar seems to feel like everyone was against him or conspiring behind his back.  I know there have been times when I knew it was my fault crap went wrong.  Although I didn't let others know it.  Because in my mind it would have made me look weak.  I knew what I needed to change.  I just told people germane to the situation that I was correcting my mistakes.  What do you want him to do?  Have a presser just to hammer home his weaknesses and break him down further.

I want him to say "We made some mistakes at Illinois.  We know how we want to address them and we will going forward.  In accordance with this, chicken nuggets is number two on my list of priorities after keeping my job."