Hiring Process Discussion with CC

[Dugout DickStone]

There was a question about the protest.  That question and answer are no where to be found.

Was that not the feedback one?

Which feedback one?  I just did a word search for "feedback" and "protest" and came up empty.   

Well none of the questions are put in there word for word, it's usually just a key theme of the question. That's the way they always are. There's a question about feedback that I would assume is the one that would have included the protest. But I honestly don't remember the PC well enough.

Regardless, I would be highly skeptical that JC gave any direction at all on that page. I'd guess if he read it at all, it wouldn't have been until Monday or something.

See my last post.  There is no part of the question or response in the "Full Transcript".  Maybe Currie didn't direct someone to remove that part of it.  But I'm highly skeptical that an intern did that of their own volition.

I will strongly disagree with you here. But continue on with your conspiracy theories. You're convinced everything is part of some evil master plan, no matter what I say.

The way you belittle the fans by accusing us of being "conspiracy theorists" or hating the university because we disagree with what is going on, then playing dumb about the exact quotes that we all listened to from Currie and BW, is shocking.  Or I guess not shocking considering the AD's obvious position as to KSU fans is "they are too stupid to know any better"

What you don't realize, or refuse to admit, is the large majority of this board are smarter and quicker than JC.  This isn't Go Powercat where the average dimwitted member can be tricked out of their $5/month membership fee by Fitz.

Facts:  KSU edited the transcript.  I doubt some Pike who is interning at the SID decided to leave portions of the interview on the cutting room floor.

[Dugout DickStone]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

"oh man, look at you spazzes totally overreact!  LOL, take a chill pill!  Wow, calm down, don't meltdown so hard!"

[Thecatwhisperer]

Limestone, quit pissing in your cheerios and eating em.  Join the party, you're missing out!

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20629.0

[SleepFighter]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

How many different issues have you said this exact thing about in the last week?  It's getting tired.

[Dugout DickStone]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

How many different issues have you said this exact thing about in the last week?  It's getting tired.

Whoa man, are you like, reading and remembering everything he has posted for like the last week?  I guess some people don't have anything better to do. 

[davegladow]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

This is where I call bullshit as a former SID.  Tom does very good work, as a general rule, and if he had an intern/someone else doing the typing on that, it would not have been up to said underling to decide what to include and what not to. I can allow that the kid may have taken it upon himself to edit some crap out and/or make the mistake of calling it a "full" transcript when it really wasn't, but if that's the case, said kid is getting a talking to. An edited transcript has to go up the food chain -- the higher-ups get paid more money to take the heat on those kinds of decisions.

[WillieWatanabe]

If one thing pisses me off, it's edited transcripts when the video is available. total BS.

[Pete]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

I want John Currie fired.  I want him to move away from Kansas and I want to never hear his name spoken by another k-stater again for as long as we all live.

Can you assist us with this?

[Trim]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

I want John Currie fired.  I want him to move away from Kansas and I want to never hear his name spoken by another k-stater again for as long as we all live.

Can you assist us with this?

Hey, Pete.  "Please."  You ever hear of that one?

[captaincrap]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

How many different issues have you said this exact thing about in the last week?  It's getting tired.

I get it, you don't like JC. I don't know what to tell some of you. Not everything is as bad as you believe it to be. You're right, I have said that a lot. Probably because it needs to be said a lot on here.

[captaincrap]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

"oh man, look at you spazzes totally overreact!  LOL, take a chill pill!  Wow, calm down, don't meltdown so hard!"

 

[Trim]

I get it, you don't like JC. I don't know what to tell some of you. Not everything is as bad as you believe it to be. You're right, I have said that a lot. Probably because it needs to be said a lot on here.

Alternatively, because things happen often that piss people off. 

Don't go down the Fitz rationale route of everyone against Currie being a "hater."

[SdK]

When Jamar was told that he was going to be ineligible for the last game of his KSU career, was he treated to the same trash can/floor story about why he was losing his last game? Was he expected to take the same bullshit that Currie has said in PC?

I can't imagine Jamar just saying, "Welp, ok. Awww shucks" and moving on. Which is how the fans are expected to deal with.

[SleepFighter]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

How many different issues have you said this exact thing about in the last week?  It's getting tired.

I get it, you don't like JC. I don't know what to tell some of you. Not everything is as bad as you believe it to be. You're right, I have said that a lot. Probably because it needs to be said a lot on here.

Can you give us a pre-approved list of issues that matter?  It would be nice to know what exactly what I should be able to care about.

[SleepFighter]

How about putting it this way, starting with the Jamar mess, and ending with the fan reaction to hiring Weber, and everything in between, what do you feel that Currie has done well?

[Dr Rick Daris]

When Jamar was told that he was going to be ineligible for the last game of his KSU career, was he treated to the same trash can/floor story about why he was losing his last game? Was he expected to take the same bullshit that Currie has said in PC?

I can't imagine Jamar just saying, "Welp, ok. Awww shucks" and moving on. Which is how the fans are expected to deal with.

that's actually a good question. i wonder how jamar was told that he wouldn't be allowed to play in his last game ever at kansas state?  i mean currie obviously told frank who then had to go relay the news to jamar. i wonder how that conversation between jamar and his beloved coach and mentor went. i mean it would be absolutely just crapping all over a head coach and the player if it was someone from the athletic dept or compliance office that informed jamar instead of allowing frank to do it.

[Trim]

When Jamar was told that he was going to be ineligible for the last game of his KSU career, was he treated to the same trash can/floor story about why he was losing his last game? Was he expected to take the same bullshit that Currie has said in PC?

I can't imagine Jamar just saying, "Welp, ok. Awww shucks" and moving on. Which is how the fans are expected to deal with.

that's actually a good question. i wonder how jamar was told that he wouldn't be allowed to play in his last game ever at kansas state?  i mean currie obviously told frank who then had to go relay the news to jamar. i wonder how that conversation between jamar and his beloved coach and mentor went. i mean it would be absolutely just crapping all over a head coach and the player if it was someone from the athletic dept or compliance office that informed jamar instead of allowing frank to do it.

I honestly don't know what your talking about, rick "WTC was an inside job" daris.  How 'bout you take off the tinfoil?

[Dugout DickStone]

Man, I did not know how pissed you guys are about a PC transcript. Am sorry I asked about it, this seems to be a hot button for some of you.

I've stated my opinion: if I had done it I would have included every questions and answer. Whoever did this one thought differently. Almost certainly was an independent decision, no different than what is typically made on every PC transcript. Don't really think it's a big deal, or indicative of a larger strategy or problem. Some of you feel very strongly to the opposite. Forgive me if I bow out of this topic, I personally do not care nearly as much as you guys about it.

"oh man, look at you spazzes totally overreact!  LOL, take a chill pill!  Wow, calm down, don't meltdown so hard!"

 

 

[EMAWesome]

I have to chime in even though I'm going to get flamed for it...Trim, I like you man, but you & others are being a little bit like the 5 year old kid in Liar-Liar right now that just doesn't quite understand that sometimes Adults Lie...it isn't like he is calling the sky red or anything...yes, we get it, JC has preached openness & transparency...that isn't a blood oath to never tell a lie, no matter how white that lie may be.

You guys are chastising KSU (and rightly so) for having shitty PR in this time, so they take the step to remove a 'contoversial' question from the PC transcript that would just highlight the bad PR and you are mad about that, and you are mad that it isn't there...it is lose-lose.

And before you give me crap for this post, please realize I took the time to put the title of the damn movie in italics, that has to count for something 

I don't like Jim Carrey.

I've thought Currie is an insincere, condescending dork for a while now; this isn't about catching a few white lies in the last week or so. 

However, I think it's amazing that he's so oblivious or dismissive about how dumb this all looks, that he and his staff will lie about or omit things that can be debunked by one click on their own website.

It's not so much the lies as it is the approach that we're all retards.  I mean, look at this rough ridin' thread.

I get that you hate everyone with the initials of JC, but what, in all honesty is our JC supposed to to about it after the fact? What makes you certain that he is both oblivious and dismissive? Because he hasn't called a presser to apologize for the last couple of pressers? He, or an intern, or a student, or the SID, or CC himself omitted a question on the transcript...he isn't running around w/ a MIB mind erase device saying it never happened, they are moving on from it...that is really all that is left to do at this point w/o drawing more negative attention to an already bruised image, which is the absolute BEST course of action they can take going forward, short of turning back the clock 4-weeks.

[chum1]

the is the butthurtest board topic i can remember

[Trim]

I get that you hate everyone with the initials of JC,

I checked my phone and found TWO JC's I'm friends with.

but what, in all honesty is our JC supposed to to about it after the fact?

Stop doing things, or facts, that piss everyone off.

What makes you certain that he is both oblivious and dismissive?

His track record over the last near-3 years.  Not a March 2012 issue for me.

Because he hasn't called a presser to apologize for the last couple of pressers? He, or an intern, or a student, or the SID, or CC himself omitted a question on the transcript...he isn't running around w/ a MIB mind erase device saying it never happened, they are moving on from it...that is really all that is left to do at this point w/o drawing more negative attention to an already bruised image, which is the absolute BEST course of action they can take going forward, short of turning back the clock 4-weeks.

OK, that's the best course of action they can take after a series of eff-ups in March 2012.  I'd like for there to not be eff-ups.  I lack the authority to make that happen, but I can certainly mock him for them.  Maybe that'll make him want to leave, maybe he'll dig in further.   

I think this is where I say you're entitled to you opinion.  I do absolutely agree with you here:

Trim, I like you man

[The Whale]

I'm sure this has been asked, but if Frank was going to truly burn down Bramlage with everyone in it, why did Currie try to give him a raise and extension mid season?

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[Trim]

I'm sure this has been asked, but if Frank was going to truly burn down Bramlage with everyone in it, why did Currie try to give him a raise and extension mid season?

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Things change.  There initially were no predetermined parameters on whether or not to give him a raise and extension, and then after that statement, Currie decided to set a parameter of only allowing non-arsonists to be coaches.

[EllToPay]

I'm sure this has been asked, but if Frank was going to truly burn down Bramlage with everyone in it, why did Currie try to give him a raise and extension mid season?

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Things change.  There initially were no predetermined parameters on whether or not to give him a raise and extension, and then after that statement, Currie decided to set a parameter of only allowing non-arsonists to be coaches.

 

[Trim]

I'm sure this has been asked, but if Frank was going to truly burn down Bramlage with everyone in it, why did Currie try to give him a raise and extension mid season?

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Things change.  There initially were no predetermined parameters on whether or not to give him a raise and extension, and then after that statement, Currie decided to set a parameter of only allowing non-arsonists to be coaches.

 

You're right.  More likely that the whole story's bullshit.  I'll defer to the cap'n on this one.