oscar WEBER IS A rough ridin' LOSER WHO CAN'T RECRUIT AND IS SOCIALLY AWKWARD

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Somehow Weber and staff got three real DITR in this class that polished the hell out of their recruiting cred. They look bright for the future, especially with the addition of Hurt.
But I seriously doubt signing nothing but overlooked talent works long term.

Pullen was overlooked talent

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Can someone with ESPN IN see what they're saying about those frosh-cats behind the paywall?

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post/_/id/2864/updated-ranking-of-top-10-freshmen

8. Marcus Foster, G, Kansas State Wildcats
6-2, 200 pounds

The Wildcats' scoring guard makes his return to the Freshman Tracker after two quality performances. He scored 17 points and grabbed eight boards in a win against Oklahoma State, and also finished with 15 points in a victory over George Washington earlier in the week.

This week: Tuesday at TCU; Saturday at Kansas (2 p.m. ET, ESPN)

Stats: 14 PPG, 3.9 APG | Previous rank: NR

[Panjandrum]

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Starting to question the "can't recruit" part somewhat...

Why? Are we giving passes to Orris, Jack Krap, and the fact that someone from the staff was in St. John, Kansas last month? Some of you are getting way ahead of yourselves.

Is really just Jack, at least Orris was quickly replaced.

But yes, it is too soon for definitive judgments on #bruceketball, but most of last year and the past month have been really fun.

I'd be shocked if Jack is here next year.  We knew we'd be short big bodies and he was an emergency add.  He'll be somewhere in the Big West come this time next year.

Even Tre Harris seems to be doing well for Fishburne.  If he ends up being good, I'll probably question a lot less.

[MakeItRain]

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Starting to question the "can't recruit" part somewhat...

Why? Are we giving passes to Orris, Jack Krap, and the fact that someone from the staff was in St. John, Kansas last month? Some of you are getting way ahead of yourselves.

Is really just Jack, at least Orris was quickly replaced.

But yes, it is too soon for definitive judgments on #bruceketball, but most of last year and the past month have been really fun.

I'd be shocked if Jack is here next year.  We knew we'd be short big bodies and he was an emergency add.  He'll be somewhere in the Big West come this time next year.

Even Tre Harris seems to be doing well for Fishburne.  If he ends up being good, I'll probably question a lot less.

He needs to stop giving scholarships for the hell of it. Jack is absolutely not a Big West player either. I hate talking about players like that it isn't his fault, but Jack doesn't have much size and has no skill. I feel awful typing that but oscar should feel worse for dragging him out of LA all the way out here in this cold.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

oscar and co. have to start landing our top 10 targets, we missed on most/all of them this year.  Hurt is a great get for us, but I'm not really sure landing DITR is gonna work long term.  We gotta start landing top 150 guys again imo.

[ksupamplemousse]

Hopefully these DITRs can have quite a bit of on-court success, resulting in oscar landing tons of 5* studs in the future.

[Trim]

Probably luke'd.

Weber says he was sent to the emergency room “…17 times by the time I was 14 years old. I was constantly running into walls, twice I got hit by cars, and in baseball I came down on top of a jagged chain link fence. I was accident prone.”

As a catcher, he said, “I was not as talented as I was tough. I was pretty aggressive. I loved the contact and the action.”

As a high schooler, he had a slipped disc and cracked vertebrae, which put him in a body cast to realign everything instead of having surgery.

While his brother, Ron, was a high school quarterback, when oscar suggested that he would like to play, his parents said, “No way. Not with my history.”

[illBisonYourdele]

 

[KITNfury]

Probably luke'd.

Weber says he was sent to the emergency room “…17 times by the time I was 14 years old. I was constantly running into walls, twice I got hit by cars, and in baseball I came down on top of a jagged chain link fence. I was accident prone.”

As a catcher, he said, “I was not as talented as I was tough. I was pretty aggressive. I loved the contact and the action.”

As a high schooler, he had a slipped disc and cracked vertebrae, which put him in a body cast to realign everything instead of having surgery.

While his brother, Ron, was a high school quarterback, when oscar suggested that he would like to play, his parents said, “No way. Not with my history.”

That's our oscar

[MakeItRain]

Probably luke'd.

Weber says he was sent to the emergency room “…17 times by the time I was 14 years old. I was constantly running into walls, twice I got hit by cars, and in baseball I came down on top of a jagged chain link fence. I was accident prone.”

As a catcher, he said, “I was not as talented as I was tough. I was pretty aggressive. I loved the contact and the action.”

As a high schooler, he had a slipped disc and cracked vertebrae, which put him in a body cast to realign everything instead of having surgery.

While his brother, Ron, was a high school quarterback, when oscar suggested that he would like to play, his parents said, “No way. Not with my history.”

Physically aggressive, no regard for his body, I think I him now

[KITNfury]

Probably luke'd.

Weber says he was sent to the emergency room “…17 times by the time I was 14 years old. I was constantly running into walls, twice I got hit by cars, and in baseball I came down on top of a jagged chain link fence. I was accident prone.”

As a catcher, he said, “I was not as talented as I was tough. I was pretty aggressive. I loved the contact and the action.”

As a high schooler, he had a slipped disc and cracked vertebrae, which put him in a body cast to realign everything instead of having surgery.

While his brother, Ron, was a high school quarterback, when oscar suggested that he would like to play, his parents said, “No way. Not with my history.”

Physically aggressive, no regard for his body, I think I him now

Can't disagree with that. It's not his fault his body is the equivalent of a balsa wood and scotch taped demolition derby car.

[LickNeckey]

One of the critiques I have heard is that oscar is a DITR master.  At Illinois this was unacceptable and the base pressured the staff to take higher profile kids that the staff did not feel comfortable with. 

This sounded (and still does) like a losery excuse to me, however maybe there is validity to the argument.  I am not a fan of the hire (a point i have made abundantly clear to anyone that has asked me).  That being said if we are stuck with him (which we are) we gotta let oscar oscar.

[Belvis Noland]

What's oscar's history?  sounds pretty unathletic.  did he play college ball?  how'd he get hooked up with coaching with Keady at Purdue?

[CNS]

I want chet to turn into a super fantastic recruiter and just start pulling ridic good ballers.

[HerrSonntag]

What's oscar's history?  sounds pretty unathletic.  did he play college ball?  how'd he get hooked up with coaching with Keady at Purdue?

Actual childhood picture:

[Mixed-Nutz]

Somehow Weber and staff got three real DITR in this class that polished the hell out of their recruiting cred. They look bright for the future, especially with the addition of Hurt.
But I seriously doubt signing nothing but overlooked talent works long term.

Pullen was overlooked talent

Transfers will be key for us.

[kso_FAN]

Somehow Weber and staff got three real DITR in this class that polished the hell out of their recruiting cred. They look bright for the future, especially with the addition of Hurt.
But I seriously doubt signing nothing but overlooked talent works long term.

Pullen was overlooked talent

Transfers will be key for us.

Yes.

With this year's FR and DJamer, oscar has a solid young core that looks like a group that will be at minimum a bubble team every year during their careers here. If Edwards and Bolden are impact players, then its possible that oscar will contend for another Big 12 title in the next few years.

[michigancat]

What's oscar's history?  sounds pretty unathletic.  did he play college ball?  how'd he get hooked up with coaching with Keady at Purdue?

He honestly seems like a guy who had no real intention of being a coach and just kind of goofed his way into it every step of the way.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Somehow Weber and staff got three real DITR in this class that polished the hell out of their recruiting cred. They look bright for the future, especially with the addition of Hurt.
But I seriously doubt signing nothing but overlooked talent works long term.

Pullen was overlooked talent

Transfers will be key for us.

Yes.

With this year's FR and DJamer, oscar has a solid young core that looks like a group that will be at minimum a bubble team every year during their careers here. If Edwards and Bolden are impact players, then its possible that oscar will contend for another Big 12 title in the next few years.

Edwards is more then an impact player . oscar might of landed his best 3 recruits ever in last year class and very few even noticed. And hell, Westicles has a very high ceiling. I also like Bolden it is hard to find kids with that kind of length and athleticism. Nigel is also a hell of a spring pick up.

Btw, The Big 12 landed the best crop of freshmen point guards I have ever seen in one confrence class. 

1. Jevon Thomas (OUR GUY)
2. Stevie Clark (OSU)
3. Jordan Woodard (OU)
4. Frank Mason (KU)
5. Isaiah Taylor (UT)
6. Monte Morris (ISU)

[ltrain]

What's oscar's history?  sounds pretty unathletic.  did he play college ball?  how'd he get hooked up with coaching with Keady at Purdue?

He honestly seems like a guy who had no real intention of being a coach and just kind of goofed his way into it every step of the way.

Doesn't he come from like a family of coaches or something?  Like his dad was a coach and brothers are coaches.     I think I remember reading that, too lazy to look tho.

[Pete]

What's oscar's history?  sounds pretty unathletic.  did he play college ball?  how'd he get hooked up with coaching with Keady at Purdue?

He honestly seems like a guy who had no real intention of being a coach and just kind of goofed his way into it every step of the way.

I find it fascinating how long he was an assistant at Purdue. 18 years.  People like to think of LHC Bill Snyder and Roy Williams as having been long term assistants, but they were for only 10 and 9 years, respectively.  I suppose it's a steady gig.  You get to wear warm-up pants to work.  His boss was a weird guy, what with the comeover, but lt's not kid ourselves, maybe it takes a weirdo to appreciate a weirdo.

[treysolid]

Probably luke'd.

Weber says he was sent to the emergency room “…17 times by the time I was 14 years old. I was constantly running into walls, twice I got hit by cars, and in baseball I came down on top of a jagged chain link fence. I was accident prone.”

As a catcher, he said, “I was not as talented as I was tough. I was pretty aggressive. I loved the contact and the action.”

As a high schooler, he had a slipped disc and cracked vertebrae, which put him in a body cast to realign everything instead of having surgery.

While his brother, Ron, was a high school quarterback, when oscar suggested that he would like to play, his parents said, “No way. Not with my history.”

it's the only way they could stop him in the open field. freak, stud etc.

[Trim]

https://vine.co/v/h3Uuiih65Qr

[MakeItRain]

Somehow Weber and staff got three real DITR in this class that polished the hell out of their recruiting cred. They look bright for the future, especially with the addition of Hurt.
But I seriously doubt signing nothing but overlooked talent works long term.

Pullen was overlooked talent

Transfers will be key for us.

Yes.

With this year's FR and DJamer, oscar has a solid young core that looks like a group that will be at minimum a bubble team every year during their careers here. If Edwards and Bolden are impact players, then its possible that oscar will contend for another Big 12 title in the next few years.

Edwards is more then an impact player . oscar might of landed his best 3 recruits ever in last year class and very few even noticed. And hell, Westicles has a very high ceiling. I also like Bolden it is hard to find kids with that kind of length and athleticism. Nigel is also a hell of a spring pick up.

Btw, The Big 12 landed the best crop of freshmen point guards I have ever seen in one confrence class. 

1. Jevon Thomas (OUR GUY)
2. Stevie Clark (OSU)
3. Jordan Woodard (OU)
4. Frank Mason (KU)
5. Isaiah Taylor (UT)
6. Monte Morris (ISU)

I watched Edwards when he played at Maine and while he looked pretty dece, it was just that pretty dece, no where near being considered more than an impact player. My hope for his is that he can be Lance Harris but he needs to develop his shot a bit.

[ksupamplemousse]

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/16/4757397/oscar-weber-and-kansas-state-look.html

bla bla bla, oscar is great, bla bla bla, Manhattan sucks, bla bla bla