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[MakeItRain]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

[monumentcat]

Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that.  The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.

Wouldn't that make sense if you know he didn't win here

Also in general fans of all schools/teams who get butthurt about someone saying "its hard to win there don't understand coaches and frankly all competitive and successful people.  I mean if you have a competitive bone in your body and someone tells you "you can't win there," I would hope you thought would be "yeah, YOU couldn't win there."  The only exception being if there is something very tangible holding you back from being competitive like an AD who won't financially support the program, horrible facilities, etc.  Unless you think K-State is in that boat, I wouldn't worry about someone saying its hard to win here.  Frank Martin would be the perfect example of that talking point being bullshit.

That's the thing, I don't have a problem with hearing it. Lord knows, we've heard it form Kruger to Altman to Asbury to Woolridge and it's always been a cop out.  I have a problem if (again big if) Frank is saying it, because he knows that is total bullshit.

[DQ12]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit.  Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.

Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style  makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.

[MakeItRain]

Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that.  The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.

Wouldn't that make sense if you know he didn't win here

Also in general fans of all schools/teams who get butthurt about someone saying "its hard to win there don't understand coaches and frankly all competitive and successful people.  I mean if you have a competitive bone in your body and someone tells you "you can't win there," I would hope you thought would be "yeah, YOU couldn't win there."  The only exception being if there is something very tangible holding you back from being competitive like an AD who won't financially support the program, horrible facilities, etc.  Unless you think K-State is in that boat, I wouldn't worry about someone saying its hard to win here.  Frank Martin would be the perfect example of that talking point being bullshit.

That's the thing, I don't have a problem with hearing it. Lord knows, we've heard it form Kruger to Altman to Asbury to Woolridge and it's always been a cop out.  I have a problem if (again big if) Frank is saying it, because he knows that is total bullshit.

Nothing would make Frank look dumber, nothing.  He's a basketball coach he doesn't work for NASA, maybe he is saying this, he'd be a damn fool if he did.

[kim carnes]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit.  Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.

Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style  makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.

you're going to be a terrible lawyer.  FYI

[Trim]

Sure its fair.  All I know is that people every single quit jobs for whatever reason, jobs that they once thought that they would have "forever."  Just because Frank is rich, doesn't mean that he shouldn't feel and behave like the rest of us, IMHO.  He's a basketball coach I don't hold his actions, morality, or decision making in any more regard than I do my mechanic.

I completely understand that college basketball coaches, and specifically Frank, have a right to do whatever they want, whenever they want, for whatever reason they want.  We as fans, though, are allowed to say that, in some circumstances, they're hypocritical assholes for doing so.

I think this is one of those circumstances. 

Would you feel differently if he'd simply quit and chilled for a little bit or done tv for a year rather than immediately taking a new job?

[Trim]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

#AbortJohnCurrie

[MakeItRain]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit.  Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.

Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style  makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.

I've tried to look at this like Frank is a CPA or something, I may be totally wrong in taking this tact though.  I would say time will tell, but I don't think it will and it's likely that we're all correct.  I really hope tomorrow won't turn into a mud slinging session, it certainly won't serve Currie and Schultz well to do that, Frank has a job.  However, judging by the time we picked for our press conference I'm worried.

  realizing I'm using terms like us and our and knowing Frank isn't included anymore.

[Dugout DickStone]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

But maybe you are ACTUALLY being incredibly loyal to the school by exposing the liar who runs the AD?   

[MakeItRain]

Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you?  So loyal to the $$.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it.  Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead?  That isn't very loyal.



BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine.  We might as well be talking about abortion.

#AbortJohnCurrie

 

[kim carnes]

I hope we drag Frank's name through the mud tomorrow at the presser, but unlike Frank, Currie is professional, so that won't happen.

[DQ12]

you're going to be a terrible lawyer.  FYI

I think recognizing the merits in others' arguments is a healthy way to interact with people. 

[EllToPay]

Frank on with BITB today. Soren playing a clip now.

[EllToPay]

Frank interview with BITB at 2:15. Son of BITB will not be an interviewer.

[OregonSmock]

Frank on BITB right now. 

[j-dub]

Frank on BITB right now.

frank is lying scum. can't believe i ever loved him so dearly and blindly.

[PurplePride74]

Frank on BITB right now.

frank is lying scum. can't believe i ever loved him so dearly and blindly.

I'm gunna throw my radio through my office window!!!!

[Pete]

I couldn't listen.   

[0.42]

Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

at work.. please post play-by-play

[Ira Hayes]

Frank doesn't want to be called a liar.

[michigancat]

Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.

He says he won't negotiate during the season. EXCEPT FOR THE ONLY OTHER TIME HE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT BEFORE THIS YEAR.

[JavaCat]

"People always thing there is something wrong when people leave. I left for the challenge. Blah, blah, blah."

[Stupid Fitz]

Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.

 

what is he supposed to say at this point?

[D-FRED-BROWN]

good lord, at least Huggins didn't make an ass out of himself like Frank is right now... as much as Frank kisses Hugg's ass, you'd think that he'd at least try to act more like him in regards to leaving KSU