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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
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Tell us how to feel and who to hate!
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haven't been this excited for bitb in a long time. :excited:
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If my iphone locks up, I am going to go into cardiac arrest.
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danny: "not exactly working all angles to keep this from happening" talking bout currie taking swarts mom's call
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KK is a big #teamcurrie
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Big game of chicken....that Currie will probably win even if Frank leaves.
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Playing the crying tapes from "Pay Frank" presser from 2010
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omg, seriously the bitb.
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So the talking point now is that this was a game of chicken...
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That presser kills me now. :cry:
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holy eff this is just a slaughterhouse
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think he played it just for the loyalty part
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So the talking point now is that this was a game of chicken...
That Frank wants to win so bad he is going to take a job he probably really doesn't want...but no other school is offering and he doesn't want Currie to win the game.
The whole "I'm not kidding I'll shoot him (when the gun in his hand is pointing at his own head) type of attitude."
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classic BITB move playing that long ass clip from frank's bonus presser
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i've honestly never listened to BITB before, listening now. wow, love this guy. killing him right now.
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I can't listen, but these are the moments that make BITB the BITB. I'm sure I'll enjoy listening later.
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He is steve dav'ing Frank Martin.
Just made a push for Underwood as the coach.
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Now talking upshaw and Danny saying "he(frank) had a grand plan"
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Best Tuck in the Business
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Now mentioning that some think he is on the phone with Pearl.
This guy reads our board. def.
Talking about the compliance over $200 jamar deal.
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Just starting to take another big bite of that MichiganCat theory on Pearl and Currie building a file for the show case hearing.
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Now mentioning that some think he is on the phone with Pearl.
This guy reads our board. def.
Talking about the compliance over $200 jamar deal.
YES! #PEARL4KSU!!!!!!
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Now mentioning that some think he is on the phone with Pearl.
This guy reads our board. def.
Talking about the compliance over $200 jamar deal.
Yeah, what the hell?
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Pearl would be a homerun hire. God, I love BITB.
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Someone tell @kellyinvegas to start tweeting at oscar.
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Someone tell @kellyinvegas to start tweeting at oscar.
Please. oscar has three of her in a golf cart on some elite course right now.
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Someone tell @kellyinvegas to start tweeting at oscar.
Please. oscar has three of her in a golf cart on some elite course right now.
Couldn't hurt though..
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some squawk saying we could do better than frank martin because we haven't put anyone in the nba.
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Butthurt Frank chose Katz to hold his text convo of "not done yet" rather than BITB. :lol:
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Currie is telling Frank to piss off, calling his bluff.
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Curie just tossed Kellis and Cassidy out of the complex.
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Curie just tossed Kellis and Cassidy out of the complex.
I don't blame him.
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Curie just tossed Kellis and Cassidy out of the complex.
escorted them away... wtf does he think he is?
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"I'll put these notes with your open records request, now get the eff out"
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If my iphone locks up, I am going to go into cardiac arrest.
I just LOL'd quietely at my desk after reading this.
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"Fame and fortune have really changed Frank Martin"
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why didn't Keitz become a defense attorney?
He is so masterful at what he does.
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why didn't Keitz become a defense attorney?
He is so masterful at what he does.
laziness
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"Fame and fortune have really changed Frank Martin"
:driving:
Beautiful.
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"Frank loves him some Frank"
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Is this Chings on the radio talking about a pro-bowler for the next coach?
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
Oh my...
If this is a no go from their side, he will end up as Pearl's assistant coach at $160k/yr
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
Oh my...
If this is a no go from their side, he will end up as Pearl's assistant coach at $160k/yr
WOW. KK tears him down, then insinuates that SC only reported they'd hired Frank because he asked to be hired, now they're "reviewing a contract proposal" as if this is all Frank BEGGING them to come there.
BITB
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
Source?
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
Source?
BITB being BITB.
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Now saying that USC may not want him. This is Miami all over again. This could be even more embarrassing than the Miami thing.
Source?
BITB being BITB.
Can't even take a phone call without missing something today. :curse:
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Based on the responses from national media types, Frank Martin is already torching K-State to make sure John Currie has no success in the future. This actually fits Frank's personality. He's loyal alright. Loyal until the moment he's against you and then its carpet bombing.
My longstanding opinion is the myth of not being able to recruit to Manhattan really started when Lon Kruger left. He was covering up a mess and needed a good reason why he left. This is different. Frank knows the stereotype and he also knows you can get players from 2000 miles away to play in front of a full house on a 20 degree night because it's fun.
If he's spreading ill will to national media about Currie AND about how hard the job is, he's doing his best to make sure the next coach isn't as successful as he was. What a shame. Six years ago he was a low paid assistant clinging to life in a hospital after years of toiling as an even lower paid coach. K-State made the reach of all time to hire him, allow him a chance to be a successful millionaire and a national celebrity. And because he can't work with ONE person, he leaves?
I have played sports with and worked with people that fit this profile. If they're on your team, you love them. If they're not, they're your worst nightmare. Frank is spoon feeding Katz and all the others a very easy story for them to repeat. How sad.
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Based on the responses from national media types, Frank Martin is already torching K-State to make sure John Currie has no success in the future. This actually fits Frank's personality. He's loyal alright. Loyal until the moment he's against you and then its carpet bombing.
My longstanding opinion is the myth of not being able to recruit to Manhattan really started when Lon Kruger left. He was covering up a mess and needed a good reason why he left. This is different. Frank knows the stereotype and he also knows you can get players from 2000 miles away to play in front of a full house on a 20 degree night because it's fun.
If he's spreading ill will to national media about Currie AND about how hard the job is, he's doing his best to make sure the next coach isn't as successful as he was. What a shame. Six years ago he was a low paid assistant clinging to life in a hospital after years of toiling as an even lower paid coach. K-State made the reach of all time to hire him, allow him a chance to be a successful millionaire and a national celebrity. And because he can't work with ONE person, he leaves?
I have played sports with and worked with people that fit this profile. If they're on your team, you love them. If they're not, they're your worst nightmare. Frank is spoon feeding Katz and all the others a very easy story for them to repeat. How sad.
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yep, that's Frank.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
it is 100% true. Frank is garbage.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Kill everyone in the building, then set it on fire
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
it is 100% true. Frank is garbage.
Currie and Frank are both garbage.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
it is 100% true. Frank is garbage.
Currie and Frank are both garbage.
How the hell did we get here? I'm just so sad. Just 2 years ago we had the that glorious Xavier game and it seemed like the sky was the limit. Now we will be starting over just because two people couldn't get along.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Laughing at Frank's "loyalty" song and dance is perfectly acceptable. He cried when he got his contract and we all thought "my God, he's going to be here forever." It was part of his charm. He talked about it every chance he got, and the first time he gets offered a job anywhere south of Chicago he's gone.
Come on. I get that he's ditching Currie and he doesn't necessarily owe Currie anything, but the "loyalty" Frank champions at every turn, in this case, doesn't pertain only to Currie.
In no way do I think this excuses Currie, but Frank isn't completely innocent in all of this.
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He cried when he got his contract and we all thought "my God, he's going to be here forever."
"We all" didn't think crap. That's your fault homie, only you can think for you.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
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He cried when he got his contract and we all thought "my God, he's going to be here forever."
"We all" didn't think crap. That's your fault homie, only you can think for you.
"Forever" was an exaggeration. So was "we all," I guess.
My point, though, is that after receiving his contract and his "loyalty" mantra that was repeated ad nauseum to the point that it was practically cliche around here, I think that it was more than reasonable to expect him to stay at least the term of his contract. In hindsight, I think it's fair to question and to roll your eyes at the bullshit that Frank served to us the last 5 years.
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He cried when he got his contract and we all thought "my God, he's going to be here forever."
"We all" didn't think crap. That's your fault homie, only you can think for you.
"Forever" was an exaggeration. So was "we all," I guess.
My point, though, is that after receiving his contract and his "loyalty" mantra that was repeated ad nauseum to the point that it was practically cliche around here, I think that it was more than reasonable to expect him to stay at least the term of his contract. In hindsight, I think it's fair to question and to roll your eyes at the bullshit that Frank served to us the last 5 years.
Sure its fair. All I know is that people every single quit jobs for whatever reason, jobs that they once thought that they would have "forever." Just because Frank is rich, doesn't mean that he shouldn't feel and behave like the rest of us, IMHO. He's a basketball coach I don't hold his actions, morality, or decision making in any more regard than I do my mechanic.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
oh jesus christ. frank wasn't being abused. If Currie's a liar, say he's a liar publicly and get him fired. In fact, he should have done that earlier (if Currie). Don't tell people you can't recruit to Manhattan - that hurts the entire university more than Currie.
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Sure its fair. All I know is that people every single quit jobs for whatever reason, jobs that they once thought that they would have "forever." Just because Frank is rich, doesn't mean that he shouldn't feel and behave like the rest of us, IMHO. He's a basketball coach I don't hold his actions, morality, or decision making in any more regard than I do my mechanic.
I completely understand that college basketball coaches, and specifically Frank, have a right to do whatever they want, whenever they want, for whatever reason they want. We as fans, though, are allowed to say that, in some circumstances, they're hypocritical assholes for doing so.
I think this is one of those circumstances.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
oh jesus christ. frank wasn't being abused. If Currie's a liar, say he's a liar publicly and get him fired. In fact, he should have done that earlier (if Currie). Don't tell people you can't recruit to Manhattan - that hurts the entire university more than Currie.
I haven't made a statement of fact yet, I can't, that would make me a
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a hypocrite.
I don't know if the man thought. I don't know if he's telling people you can't recruit to Manhattan. It seems clear that he thinks that John Currie made his work environment unbearable, whether he thinks it's unbearable, abusive, or the actual work I used hostile, is a hair split.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
Would make you look bitter and pretty dumb for staying there for 5 years but WGAF I guess?
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
Seriously if all he is doing is trashing Currie, I don't have a problem with it. The whole world, by now, knows that those two hate each other. Like you said, trashing your former boss is the American way.
Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that. The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
Would make you look bitter and pretty dumb for staying there for 5 years but WGAF I guess?
:dunno: Or loyal for putting up with it as long as I did
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
Yeah K-State had nothing at all to gain by hiring Frank Martin. Frank Martin, Brad Underwood, Jimmy Elgas, all the same huh?
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
Yeah K-State had nothing at all to gain by hiring Frank Martin. Frank Martin, Brad Underwood, Jimmy Elgas, all the same huh?
FACT: Frank Martin would be nothing without kstate and michael beasley.
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Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that. The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.
Wouldn't that make sense if you know he didn't win here :dunno:
Also in general fans of all schools/teams who get butthurt about someone saying "its hard to win there don't understand coaches and frankly all competitive and successful people. I mean if you have a competitive bone in your body and someone tells you "you can't win there," I would hope you thought would be "yeah, YOU couldn't win there." The only exception being if there is something very tangible holding you back from being competitive like an AD who won't financially support the program, horrible facilities, etc. Unless you think K-State is in that boat, I wouldn't worry about someone saying its hard to win here. Frank Martin would be the perfect example of that talking point being bullshit.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
Yeah K-State had nothing at all to gain by hiring Frank Martin. Frank Martin, Brad Underwood, Jimmy Elgas, all the same huh?
FACT: Frank Martin would be nothing without kstate and michael beasley.
Oh shut up. We hired him to save our asses. We needed a big name recruit (or two) to keep fans interested. We had nothing but our own ass in mind when we hired him.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
Yeah K-State had nothing at all to gain by hiring Frank Martin. Frank Martin, Brad Underwood, Jimmy Elgas, all the same huh?
FACT: Frank Martin would be nothing without kstate and michael beasley.
So Frank had something unique to offer K-State that made him a valuable commodity. Thanks for agreeing :thumbsup: there is nothing I value more.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
I think trashing your former employer, when YOU decided to leave, is bush at best.
Not if you think you are leaving a hostile work environment. If we believe the report that the last straw was the letter to the fans, I would tell people that my boss he was a lying bad person too.
Would make you look bitter and pretty dumb for staying there for 5 years but WGAF I guess?
:dunno: Or loyal for putting up with it as long as I did
Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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If that's true, that's disappointing, but not the least bit surprising.
Why? If your former boss was a bitch, tell people your former boss was a bitch, its the American way. You don't want people telling others you're a bitch, don't be a bitch.
Kietz's bullshit about Frank should be quiet because Currie gave him a chance is his tuck showing.Currie didn't make Frank a millionaire, Frank, his assistants, and his players made him a millionaire; Currie didn't do crap, he didn't even hire him. If Currie didn't give Frank a new contract Frank would have made MORE money at Depaul or Oregon. The loyalty tucks seem to forget that Frank gave K-State the old hometown discount.
eff John Currie
Kansas State University made Frank a millionaire. If it wasn't for Kstate, he would be an assistant coach at West rough ridin' Virginia. eff Frank Martin.
Yeah K-State had nothing at all to gain by hiring Frank Martin. Frank Martin, Brad Underwood, Jimmy Elgas, all the same huh?
FACT: Frank Martin would be nothing without kstate and michael beasley.
Oh shut up. We hired him to save our asses. We needed a big name recruit (or two) to keep fans interested. We had nothing but our own ass in mind when we hired him.
obviously we had ourselves in mind when we hired our new coach. what school wouldn't have their own interest in mind when hiring a coach?
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
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Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that. The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.
Wouldn't that make sense if you know he didn't win here :dunno:
Also in general fans of all schools/teams who get butthurt about someone saying "its hard to win there don't understand coaches and frankly all competitive and successful people. I mean if you have a competitive bone in your body and someone tells you "you can't win there," I would hope you thought would be "yeah, YOU couldn't win there." The only exception being if there is something very tangible holding you back from being competitive like an AD who won't financially support the program, horrible facilities, etc. Unless you think K-State is in that boat, I wouldn't worry about someone saying its hard to win here. Frank Martin would be the perfect example of that talking point being bullshit.
That's the thing, I don't have a problem with hearing it. Lord knows, we've heard it form Kruger to Altman to Asbury to Woolridge and it's always been a cop out. I have a problem if (again big if) Frank is saying it, because he knows that is total bullshit.
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit. Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.
Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.
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Now if (big if, considering the Kietz source) he is trashing the K-State coaching job itself, by saying it is too hard to win here, then I do have a problem with that. The K-State fans have done nothing but support and defend him. We have been nothing but loyal to him and his program. That would hurt. I hope that part is pure BS.
Wouldn't that make sense if you know he didn't win here :dunno:
Also in general fans of all schools/teams who get butthurt about someone saying "its hard to win there don't understand coaches and frankly all competitive and successful people. I mean if you have a competitive bone in your body and someone tells you "you can't win there," I would hope you thought would be "yeah, YOU couldn't win there." The only exception being if there is something very tangible holding you back from being competitive like an AD who won't financially support the program, horrible facilities, etc. Unless you think K-State is in that boat, I wouldn't worry about someone saying its hard to win here. Frank Martin would be the perfect example of that talking point being bullshit.
That's the thing, I don't have a problem with hearing it. Lord knows, we've heard it form Kruger to Altman to Asbury to Woolridge and it's always been a cop out. I have a problem if (again big if) Frank is saying it, because he knows that is total bullshit.
Nothing would make Frank look dumber, nothing. He's a basketball coach he doesn't work for NASA, maybe he is saying this, he'd be a damn fool if he did.
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit. Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.
Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.
you're going to be a terrible lawyer. FYI
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Sure its fair. All I know is that people every single quit jobs for whatever reason, jobs that they once thought that they would have "forever." Just because Frank is rich, doesn't mean that he shouldn't feel and behave like the rest of us, IMHO. He's a basketball coach I don't hold his actions, morality, or decision making in any more regard than I do my mechanic.
I completely understand that college basketball coaches, and specifically Frank, have a right to do whatever they want, whenever they want, for whatever reason they want. We as fans, though, are allowed to say that, in some circumstances, they're hypocritical assholes for doing so.
I think this is one of those circumstances.
Would you feel differently if he'd simply quit and chilled for a little bit or done tv for a year rather than immediately taking a new job?
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
#AbortJohnCurrie
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
For the record, some of the stuff you've said tonight has made me readjust my position on the issue a bit. Earlier I was genuinely mad at Frank and thought he was being a total child.
Now, I've recognized that, understandably, he's acting self-interestedly, but considering the "loyalty" and his holistic coaching style makes him look a bit like a buffoon, in hindsight.
I've tried to look at this like Frank is a CPA or something, I may be totally wrong in taking this tact though. I would say time will tell, but I don't think it will and it's likely that we're all correct. I really hope tomorrow won't turn into a mud slinging session, it certainly won't serve Currie and Schultz well to do that, Frank has a job. However, judging by the time we picked for our press conference I'm worried.
:cry: realizing I'm using terms like us and our and knowing Frank isn't included anymore.
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
But maybe you are ACTUALLY being incredibly loyal to the school by exposing the liar who runs the AD? :sdeek:
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Well now you are covering up for a liar, who lied so bad you had to leave, but when he was giving you raises his lying was cool with you? So loyal to the $$. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Not covering up crap, trying to deal with it. Are you suggesting that people should quit their jobs the second they discover their boss is a shithead? That isn't very loyal.
BTW I told myself this afternoon that I would not talk about this, because politics and religion, I'm not changing anyone's mind and no one is changing mine. We might as well be talking about abortion.
#AbortJohnCurrie
:surprised:
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I hope we drag Frank's name through the mud tomorrow at the presser, but unlike Frank, Currie is professional, so that won't happen.
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you're going to be a terrible lawyer. FYI
:rolleyes:
I think recognizing the merits in others' arguments is a healthy way to interact with people.
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Frank on with BITB today. Soren playing a clip now.
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Frank interview with BITB at 2:15. Son of BITB will not be an interviewer.
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Frank on BITB right now.
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Frank on BITB right now.
frank is lying scum. can't believe i ever loved him so dearly and blindly. :frown:
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Frank on BITB right now.
frank is lying scum. can't believe i ever loved him so dearly and blindly. :frown:
I'm gunna throw my radio through my office window!!!! :chainsaw: :curse: :chainsaw: :curse: :chainsaw: :curse:
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I couldn't listen. :flush:
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
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at work.. please post play-by-play
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Frank doesn't want to be called a liar.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
He says he won't negotiate during the season. EXCEPT FOR THE ONLY OTHER TIME HE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT BEFORE THIS YEAR.
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"People always thing there is something wrong when people leave. I left for the challenge. Blah, blah, blah."
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
:flush:
what is he supposed to say at this point?
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good lord, at least Huggins didn't make an ass out of himself like Frank is right now... as much as Frank kisses Hugg's ass, you'd think that he'd at least try to act more like him in regards to leaving KSU :flush:
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The Jamar situation bothered him, but it wasn't the reason he left. It was on his mind though. He'd have to be called a liar if he said otherwise. John did what he had to do.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
:flush:
what is he supposed to say at this point?
The truth? At least when he says over and over where he's not a liar in the same interview.
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Also, bragged about all the great things he and huggs had done for Kstate. Said it was time to think about a move that was best for him and his family.
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Man, I'm gonna miss this guy.
:cry:
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Says he has no idea how the Jamar receipt situation transpired.
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bitb, regarding receipt: "does that happen anywhere else?" frank: "uhhh, ya know, uhh, i've never heard of it before, uhh ya know."
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Man, I'm gonna miss this guy.
:cry:
Hopefully we can find another coach who is a scarred shitless of AFH and Self as Frank was
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Man, I'm gonna miss this guy.
:cry:
Now you are just being mean Beems. I mean, telling us we should hire loser coaches is one thing, but rubbing the F4 in our faces is mean. :frown:
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
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His decision to leave was not based on negative feelings. He's a positive guy.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
do tell...
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manbeck just outed frank as an terrible awful liary liar person
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
Um, he said he doesn't negotiate during the season even though his 2010 extension was signed before the Big 12 tournament started.
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
yep, not his finest work
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Every day, as soon as the sun comes up, Frank wants to bring joy to all the people around him. And when the sun came up on Monday he decided to bring joy to people in South Carolina.
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bitb and frank lobbying for undy now. frank: "brad is so much more prepared than i was.. :blah: :blah: :blah:"
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Wants Underwood to be the next coach.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
Um, he said he doesn't negotiate during the season even though his 2010 extension was signed before the Big 12 tournament started.
Come on, Rusty. You're coming off like some sort of jilted lover here. Maybe Frank didn't negotiate - maybe his agent did. Maybe Currie just slapped a new contract on the table and he signed it. Seems like a pretty minor detail to get all worked up about.
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Hey Frank, your opinion of who should get the job you hated is irrelevant
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bitb and frank lobbying for undy now. frank: "brad is so much more prepared than i was.. :blah: :blah: :blah:"
"Underwood has 16 years as a D1 assistant coach, is a kstater, and has head coaching experience". :jerk:
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
yep, not his finest work
Very intimidated, it seems.
Considering he will never again speak with Frank, it is pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) he isn't going after him. Equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that he is actually rough ridin' caring about what he took on at USC.
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Every day, as soon as the sun comes up, Frank wants to bring joy to all the people around him. And when the sun came up on Monday he decided to bring joy to people in South Carolina.
:thumbs: pure goEMAW gold.
No one uses such a small number of posts to kick such a large number of asses.
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
Um, he said he doesn't negotiate during the season even though his 2010 extension was signed before the Big 12 tournament started.
Come on, Rusty. You're coming off like some sort of jilted lover here. Maybe Frank didn't negotiate - maybe his agent did. Maybe Currie just slapped a new contract on the table and he signed it. Seems like a pretty minor detail to get all worked up about.
It's a pretty major detail when he refused to negotiate during the season this year on some bullshit principle.
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grudge bombs
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"We're all gonna be Frank Martin fans..."
jfc
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
Um, he said he doesn't negotiate during the season even though his 2010 extension was signed before the Big 12 tournament started.
Come on, Rusty. You're coming off like some sort of jilted lover here. Maybe Frank didn't negotiate - maybe his agent did. Maybe Currie just slapped a new contract on the table and he signed it. Seems like a pretty minor detail to get all worked up about.
manbeck just outed frank as an terrible awful liary liar person
@Cole_Manbeck His contract extension at K-State in 2010 was signed during season. Day after Iowa State loss. Contract talks went on much of season
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Non-answer after non-answer. Frank is lying his ass off.
Not lying about anything. Just admitted that the Jamar Samuels situation bothered him and that Currie is a total psycho.
Um, he said he doesn't negotiate during the season even though his 2010 extension was signed before the Big 12 tournament started.
Come on, Rusty. You're coming off like some sort of jilted lover here. Maybe Frank didn't negotiate - maybe his agent did. Maybe Currie just slapped a new contract on the table and he signed it. Seems like a pretty minor detail to get all worked up about.
It's a pretty major detail when he refused to negotiate during the season this year on some bullshit principle.
He didn't want to stay at K-State. He was tired of getting his tie straightened by Currie.
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Tell me how Frank's ass tastes Kevin. Good Grief.
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go to hell frank.
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He didn't want to stay at K-State. He was tired of getting his tie straightened by Currie.
I know. So don't lie about it and then say you're not a liar over and over and over.
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bitb picked a fine time to turn all witb
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Every day, as soon as the sun comes up, Frank wants to bring joy to all the people around him. And when the sun came up on Monday he decided to bring joy to people in South Carolina.
:thumbs: pure goEMAW gold.
No one uses such a small number of posts to kick such a large number of asses.
I didn't make that up. I was paraphrasing Frank. He said that.
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"I have to apologize to Kstate, you gave me my first opportunity, my son was born there, you're great ppl, yada yada, ect."-Frank (Dropped mic and :clac: )
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He didn't want to stay at K-State. He was tired of getting his tie straightened by Currie.
I know. So don't lie about it and then say you're not a liar over and over and over.
He pretty much said that. Just didn't explicitly drag Currie and K-State through the mud. The guy loved the fans and the school... just hated Currie.
:dunno:
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He sounded like he's been gone for 15 years talking about an old job. It made me sad. Good luck Frank, I don't hate you.
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He didn't hate Currie. He didn't leave because he had negative feelings. He left for a challenge. He's a honest man so you can't believe otherwise.
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
yep, not his finest work
Very intimidated, it seems.
Considering he will never again speak with Frank, it is pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) he isn't going after him. Equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that he is actually rough ridin' caring about what he took on at USC.
He wants to keep the relationship so he can have him on the show again when Missouri matches up with USC next year.
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
yep, not his finest work
Very intimidated, it seems.
Considering he will never again speak with Frank, it is pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) he isn't going after him. Equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that he is actually rough ridin' caring about what he took on at USC.
He wants to keep the relationship so he can have him on the show again when Missouri matches up with USC next year.
I wanted a softball player mutiny question so Frank could laugh it out of the park
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Wants Underwood to be the next coach.
Of course he does.
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BITB throwing absolute softballs right now.
yep, not his finest work
Very intimidated, it seems.
Considering he will never again speak with Frank, it is pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) he isn't going after him. Equally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that he is actually rough ridin' caring about what he took on at USC.
He wants to keep the relationship so he can have him on the show again when Missouri matches up with USC next year.
I wanted a softball player mutiny question so Frank could laugh it out of the park
Yeah, KK pushed the mutiny point pretty hard. pretty stupid he didn't press on it.
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He sounded like he's been gone for 15 years talking about an old job. It made me sad. Good luck Frank, I don't hate you.
yeah, also i agree with Beams, i think.
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Every day, as soon as the sun comes up, Frank wants to bring joy to all the people around him. And when the sun came up on Monday he decided to bring joy to people in South Carolina.
:thumbs: pure goEMAW gold.
No one uses such a small number of posts to kick such a large number of asses.
I didn't make that up. I was paraphrasing Frank. He said that.
Well it was still a fantastic post
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Every day, as soon as the sun comes up, Frank wants to bring joy to all the people around him. And when the sun came up on Monday he decided to bring joy to people in South Carolina.
:thumbs: pure goEMAW gold.
No one uses such a small number of posts to kick such a large number of asses.
I didn't make that up. I was paraphrasing Frank. He said that.
Well it was still a fantastic post
Incredible post. Thank you, Ira Hayes
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Jack Harry is a Neil Diamond Tuck
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He didn't hate Currie. He didn't leave because he had negative feelings. He left for a challenge. He's a honest man so you can't believe otherwise.
You can't be this stupid. I mean how did you even turn on the computer if you are?
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He didn't hate Currie. He didn't leave because he had negative feelings. He left for a challenge. He's a honest man so you can't believe otherwise.
You can't be this stupid. I mean how did you even turn on the computer if you are?
Ummmmm
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He didn't hate Currie. He didn't leave because he had negative feelings. He left for a challenge. He's a honest man so you can't believe otherwise.
You can't be this stupid. I mean how did you even turn on the computer if you are?
Ummmmm
:lol:
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yeah Gooch you have been here long enough. you should be able to filter this crap by now.
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
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yeah Gooch you have been here long enough. you should be able to filter this crap by now.
:facepalm: with all the blind rage I got going right now towards all the tucks I am way off my game.
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I have noticed the more people tell you they are loyal and the more they tell you they are honest, the less they are of either.
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
Nick Wright asked him if he would have played Jamar. He avoided the question like a giant pussy.
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It's like Frank sat around and thought of all the criticisms he was going to get and just said "I'm not x, y, and z" without anyone even accusing him of it. He and BITB are peas in a pod with how thin skinned they are.
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I have noticed the more people tell you they are loyal and the more they tell you they are honest, the less they are of either.
Preachy people are always the worst. THE WORST.
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I have noticed the more people tell you they are loyal and the more they tell you they are honest, the less they are of either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIY7eYmBqIE
Imagine Frank as Christopher Walken
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
Yep.
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And our (former) used car salesman has a track record of being extremely reactionary and emotional. A lot. There was a time where I enjoyed it because he was "ours", not so much anymore I guess.
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some used car salesmen are worse than others
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Really dislike Frank's repeated talking point (think ive heard it at least 3 times now) how he presided over the 5 most successful years in K-State history. How can you say that with no conference titles and no final 4's when we have like 20 and 4.
Small thing I know, but irritating.
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Really dislike Frank's repeated talking point (think ive heard it at least 3 times now) how he presided over the 5 most successful years in K-State history. How can you say that with no conference titles and no final 4's when we have like 20 and 4.
Small thing I know, but irritating.
Find 5 consecutive years that you would say were better.
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some used car salesmen are worse than others
Frank is one of the good ones. Don't be like Johnny Butthurt KU Fan after Roy left, Rusty. Time heals all wounds.
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Really dislike Frank's repeated talking point (think ive heard it at least 3 times now) how he presided over the 5 most successful years in K-State history. How can you say that with no conference titles and no final 4's when we have like 20 and 4.
Small thing I know, but irritating.
Find 5 consecutive years that you would say were better.
well, you could argue that 1957-1961 were better. (we won the big 8 4 years in a row.) but I doubt we won as many games as Frank won. They play a lot more games now.
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some used car salesmen are worse than others
Frank is one of the good ones. Don't be like Johnny Butthurt KU Fan after Roy left, Rusty. Time heals all wounds.
I knew he was going to leave. I think he made a bad decision that will cost him a lot of money/prestige in the long run, but I always knew he was going to leave.
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Really dislike Frank's repeated talking point (think ive heard it at least 3 times now) how he presided over the 5 most successful years in K-State history. How can you say that with no conference titles and no final 4's when we have like 20 and 4.
Small thing I know, but irritating.
Find 5 consecutive years that you would say were better.
Take any year we won a conference title and add or subtract 4. There are 19 different times you could do that. All those were better.
Of course I like winning championships.
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Meh... I'll give Frank a pass on the 5 best years, because for a good portion of our living fanbase the last 5 years have been the best ever for them.
Titles and Final Fours are great, would give a hell of a lot of money to have more of them, but there's a lot to be said for getting the program to the national stage in this era. Frank did that, and I'll be forever grateful. I pray the next coach is capable of doing the same.
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some used car salesmen are worse than others
Frank is one of the good ones. Don't be like Johnny Butthurt KU Fan after Roy left, Rusty. Time heals all wounds.
Little bit different scenarios. It's ridiculous to be butthurt about Roy, because it's his alma mater and where his coaching career really took off. Plus he had turned the job down before.
Frank has no ties to South Carolina and jumped ship amidst this shitstorm.
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The roy butthurt was absurd
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ku fans hate dean smith more than roy because he wore a unc shirt to a ku game a few years ago.
it's not like it's a rational fanbase.
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some used car salesmen are worse than others
Frank is one of the good ones. Don't be like Johnny Butthurt KU Fan after Roy left, Rusty. Time heals all wounds.
Little bit different scenarios. It's ridiculous to be butthurt about Roy, because it's his alma mater and where his coaching career really took off. Plus he had turned the job down before.
Frank has no ties to South Carolina and jumped ship amidst this shitstorm.
Not to mention it was where he was born and he took over a team on probation at KU when the other top candidates passed it up. If Frank would've gone to Miami last year I think people would have a completely different opinion.
As far as comparing these last 5 years to another 5 years, it's kind of hard due to the differences in eras and the fact that most of us didn't see it. I think it's hard to argue that Tex wasn't the most successful coach. Hartman had good years and a couple good 5 year runs, but crap was different back then. Hell, he went 11-3 in the conference a couple times and didn't make the tournament. Frank was successful though, I liked him even though he was frustrating at times, and I'd probably welcome him back. Like Gardner, maybe Frank will come back after Currie is gone and the "war" is over. Right now though it's hard to be real happy about the way he left.
I'd just like to see Honest Frank explain the real reasons for leaving. It's easy to be honest without being completely disparaging. He can voice his reasons without trashing Currie or KSU.
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
Nick Wright asked him if he would have played Jamar. He avoided the question like a giant pussy.
you need to take a break
I understand many of you are freaking out because you're hurt. but JFC attempt to get a grip, my god.
I knew he was going to leave. I think he made a bad decision that will cost him a lot of money/prestige in the long run, but I always knew he was going to leave.
That is well reasoned and completely rational, why have the rest of your posts on the topic sound like they are from a divorcee who got taken for everything. You seem to take this really personally.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
Nick Wright asked him if he would have played Jamar. He avoided the question like a giant pussy.
you need to take a break
I understand many of you are freaking out because you're hurt. but JFC attempt to get a grip, my god.
I knew he was going to leave. I think he made a bad decision that will cost him a lot of money/prestige in the long run, but I always knew he was going to leave.
That is well reasoned and completely rational, why have the rest of your posts on the topic sound like they are from a divorcee who got taken for everything. You seem to take this really personally.
Oh eff off mir. I made fun of Frank's bullshit when he was our coach, I'm allowed to mock him a little when he leaves.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
You could tell that Nick wanted to ask the "hard hitting" questions, but the two are so buddy buddy that he wouldn't. Off air I'm sure it'd have been completely different.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
You could tell that Nick wanted to ask the "hard hitting" questions, but the two are so buddy buddy that he wouldn't. Off air I'm sure it'd have been completely different.
what didn't he ask that you wanted to hear
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
Nick Wright asked him if he would have played Jamar. He avoided the question like a giant pussy.
you need to take a break
I understand many of you are freaking out because you're hurt. but JFC attempt to get a grip, my god.
I knew he was going to leave. I think he made a bad decision that will cost him a lot of money/prestige in the long run, but I always knew he was going to leave.
That is well reasoned and completely rational, why have the rest of your posts on the topic sound like they are from a divorcee who got taken for everything. You seem to take this really personally.
I'm allowed to mock him a little when he leaves.
you've went well beyond that, you seem legitimately hurt
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Did Frank say that the receipt was first found in the trash at Dillons and then later found again on the floor somewhere on campus? If so, Currie is absolved.
Nick Wright asked him if he would have played Jamar. He avoided the question like a giant pussy.
you need to take a break
I understand many of you are freaking out because you're hurt. but JFC attempt to get a grip, my god.
I knew he was going to leave. I think he made a bad decision that will cost him a lot of money/prestige in the long run, but I always knew he was going to leave.
That is well reasoned and completely rational, why have the rest of your posts on the topic sound like they are from a divorcee who got taken for everything. You seem to take this really personally.
I'm allowed to mock him a little when he leaves.
you've went well beyond that, you seem legitimately hurt
Well, you kind of suck at reading my mind.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
You could tell that Nick wanted to ask the "hard hitting" questions, but the two are so buddy buddy that he wouldn't. Off air I'm sure it'd have been completely different.
what didn't he ask that you wanted to hear
Follow up questions more than anything. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't his fault that Frank wouldn't answer the questions. Frank has an uncanny ability for dodging a question with a bullshit life lesson.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
You could tell that Nick wanted to ask the "hard hitting" questions, but the two are so buddy buddy that he wouldn't. Off air I'm sure it'd have been completely different.
what didn't he ask that you wanted to hear
Follow up questions more than anything. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't his fault that Frank wouldn't answer the questions. Frank has an uncanny ability for dodging a question with a bullshit life lesson.
On Sunday and Monday Frank caught a lot of crap because he was going to hurt the program by airing dirty laundry. He won't dump his personal crap onto the table for the world to see and thirsty simps are still mad, I just don't get it.
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dudes. administrators are politicians. coaches are used car salesmen. both completely full of crap. try not to be surprised next time.
You would think grown men wouldn't treat other grown men like how we thought of superman when we were 6.
Also for those who didn't hear it the Nick Wright interview was much better than Keitzman's.
You could tell that Nick wanted to ask the "hard hitting" questions, but the two are so buddy buddy that he wouldn't. Off air I'm sure it'd have been completely different.
what didn't he ask that you wanted to hear
Follow up questions more than anything. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't his fault that Frank wouldn't answer the questions. Frank has an uncanny ability for dodging a question with a bullshit life lesson.
On Sunday and Monday Frank caught a lot of crap because he was going to hurt the program by airing dirty laundry. He won't dump his personal crap onto the table for the world to see and thirsty simps are still mad, I just don't get it.
I want him to publicly air his dirty laundry and get curried fired instead of saying nice things about currie publicly while badmouthing currie and KSU privately to all his coaching buddies. Not realistic, but it's what I'd prefer.
And really, mocking frank for his "be a man" bullshit is more legitimate because he thumps that bible harder than most.
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And really, mocking frank for his "be a man" bullshit is more legitimate because he thumps that bible harder than most.
I think a lot of it has to do with us (at least subconsciously) rolling our eyes at it durring his tenure here, and now that he's crossed us, we can LOL at him like we've always kind of wanted to.
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I want him to publicly air his dirty laundry and get curried fired instead of saying nice things about currie publicly while badmouthing currie and KSU privately to all his coaching buddies. Not realistic, but it's what I'd prefer.
And really, mocking frank for his "be a man" bullshit is more legitimate because he thumps that bible harder than most.
this. Either say it loud and proud or stfu. he's effectively killing ksu basketball because he says really nice things on the outside and then runs currie (and effectively kansas state) into the f'ing ground by telling national writers and other coaches how f'ing awfull currie is. The final four will be a fantastic place for him to go and tell his story to nearly every coach he runs into. "oh, man, loved ksu, but i can't work for john, he's just an overbearing prick blah blah blah". and those coaches, rightly or wrongly, will believe this as the only side of it and that will be the knock on kansas state until currie is gone. so excuse the sh*t out of me if I don't like a coach at another school who's trying to make my school look like dogsh*t and ruin any chance we might have of getting anyone halfway decent coach to come to ksu.
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Currie must go
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I want him to publicly air his dirty laundry and get curried fired instead of saying nice things about currie publicly while badmouthing currie and KSU privately to all his coaching buddies. Not realistic, but it's what I'd prefer.
And really, mocking frank for his "be a man" bullshit is more legitimate because he thumps that bible harder than most.
this. Either say it loud and proud or stfu. he's effectively killing ksu basketball because he says really nice things on the outside and then runs currie (and effectively kansas state) into the f'ing ground by telling national writers and other coaches how f'ing awfull currie is. The final four will be a fantastic place for him to go and tell his story to nearly every coach he runs into. "oh, man, loved ksu, but i can't work for john, he's just an overbearing prick blah blah blah". and those coaches, rightly or wrongly, will believe this as the only side of it and that will be the knock on kansas state until currie is gone. so excuse the sh*t out of me if I don't like a coach at another school who's trying to make my school look like dogsh*t and ruin any chance we might have of getting anyone halfway decent coach to come to ksu.
so you'd rather have him trash kstate publicly than privately? ooookkkkkaayyyyyy. HE'S STILL rough ridin' TRASHING US. jfc.
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it would be better, on many levels, if he trashed us publicly. wouldn't be the smartest thing for him to do, but for us, it would have been better.
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
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he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
disagree. agree
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
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The evidence shows that the person trashing K-State privately is HCBS.
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i mean, he's not rough ridin' calling everyone in his contact list in an attempt to smear currie's name and ruin him professionally.
do you guys think he is privately telling underwood never to work for currie?
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
HE IS A THUG FROM MIAMI!
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who care's if he is trashing us privately, coaches won't listen and here is why.
Think of it this way, Frank is your buddy who just broke up with a chick and he is telling you that she is crazier than bat crap but was a good lay. She comes around smiles all seductively and the next thing you know you are banging the crap out of her and you don't care that she is nutty.
Coaches will bang the nutty bitch until a better one comes around. amiright?
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and said slut has a brand new $18M house she is building. with a $2M yearly allowance.
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
this is one of the many ways it would be better if he did it publicly. so we wouldn't have to sift through the veil of naiveness that people would have about who those national writers are getting their info from.
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You guys, DO NOT COMMENT ON ANYTHING UNLESS YOU ARE 100% SURE IT IS A FACT
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
this is one of the many ways it would be better if he did it publicly. so we wouldn't have to sift through the veil of naiveness that people would have about who those national writers are getting their info from.
We could also maybe get Currie fired this way. (are we allowed to want that????)
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
this is one of the many ways it would be better if he did it publicly. so we wouldn't have to sift through the veil of naiveness that people would have about who those national writers are getting their info from.
We could also maybe get Currie fired this way. (are we allowed to want that????)
yet again, another way him publicly flogging john currie would have benefited us.
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Does anyone really think any amount of Frank publically complaining about Currie would've convinced Schulz to fire him?
Just checking.
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Does anyone really think any amount of Frank publically complaining about Currie would've convinced Schulz to fire him?
Just checking.
The biggest thing that could get currie fired now is if we wiff on a bunch of decent guys and land on offering Undy the job and he tells us to eff off. Won't happen, but if Undy said no, it would send a pretty big signal, imo.
Note: this will never happen.
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Does anyone really think any amount of Frank publically complaining about Currie would've convinced Schulz to fire him?
Just checking.
The biggest thing that could get currie fired now is if we wiff on a bunch of decent guys and land on offering Undy the job and he tells us to eff off. Won't happen, but if Undy said no, it would send a pretty big signal, imo.
Note: this will never happen.
Would laugh my ass off if Undz turned the job down. Then I would cry for what that means for our program
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dear fitz nation: frank doesn't have a bunch of dirt on currie.
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dear fitz nation: he's not trashing anyone privately. and nothing he says is going to influence anyone.
yes, love that he's trashing Kansas State privately is stated and treated as fact instead of theory
this is one of the many ways it would be better if he did it publicly. so we wouldn't have to sift through the veil of naiveness that people would have about who those national writers are getting their info from.
We could also maybe get Currie fired this way. (are we allowed to want that????)
yet again, another way him publicly flogging john currie would have benefited us.
Zacker and rusty, when smart people become uncontrollably irrational. Yes, Schultz would have fired Currie if Frank publicly called him a reactionary, control freakish dickbag. You guys have lost your minds, the way you two are coping with fear is fascinating.
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This hire can only help Currie and can do very little to hurt him IMO. ADs never get fired over one bad hire, especially when they've done the other stuff that Currie's done. Even more so since Currie is Schulz's hire. If this hire is a failure and Currie stays around, he'll get another shot to hire a coach, but he'll probably get his next big hire (football) before that would come around. A second bad hire would be bad for his career though.
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This hire can only help Currie and can do very little to hurt him IMO. ADs never get fired over one bad hire, especially when they've done the other stuff that Currie's done. Even more so since Currie is Schulz's hire. If this hire is a failure and Currie stays around, he'll get another shot to hire a coach, but he'll probably get his next big hire (football) before that would come around. A second bad hire would be bad for his career though.
I believe Snyder is going to have the loudest voice on the FB hire and only a great BB hire by Currie can change that.
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This hire can only help Currie and can do very little to hurt him IMO. ADs never get fired over one bad hire, especially when they've done the other stuff that Currie's done. Even more so since Currie is Schulz's hire. If this hire is a failure and Currie stays around, he'll get another shot to hire a coach, but he'll probably get his next big hire (football) before that would come around. A second bad hire would be bad for his career though.
If the second guy leaves and is successful at making it seem like it was due to an overly ambitions compliance dept or a overly controlling AD, that could be pretty bad for Currie. Two strikes and all...
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Currie better hit a home run with this hire or he's fist effed for football.
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Zacker and rusty, when smart people become uncontrollably irrational. Yes, Schultz would have fired Currie if Frank publicly called him a reactionary, control freakish dickbag. You guys have lost your minds, the way you two are coping with fear is fascinating.
I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
And as I stated before, we wouldn’t have to play this game of “show me where frank said …” . And naively believe that frank (or someone close to frank) aren’t/haven’t put stuff out there.
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A young AD typically would be given a little latitude on his first hire, if the head coach he was replacing was terminated for under performance or had left for a higher profile job.
When the most popular/winningest coach in 25 years gets the hell out of town for a demotion to a dogsh*t program like South Carolina over a reported personal conflict, you better hit a home run or you can start picking out For Sale signs.
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Zacker and rusty, when smart people become uncontrollably irrational. Yes, Schultz would have fired Currie if Frank publicly called him a reactionary, control freakish dickbag. You guys have lost your minds, the way you two are coping with fear is fascinating.
I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
And as I stated before, we wouldn’t have to play this game of “show me where frank said …” . And naively believe that frank (or someone close to frank) aren’t/haven’t put stuff out there.
Currie/TeamSprads are the ones that are doing a much better job putting things out there
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teammir, notteambutthurtusuallygoodposters.
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A young AD typically would be given a little latitude on his first hire, if the head coach he was replacing was terminated for under performance or had left for a higher profiled job.
When the most popular/winningest coach in 25 years gets the hell out of town for a demotion to a dogsh*t program like South Carolina over a reported personal conflict, you better hit a home run or you can start picking out For Sale signs.
I'd guess Schulz put 0% blame on Currie for Frank leaving.
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fitz nation has to ask itself what dirty laundry grudge bombs frank is going to drop. is it that currie cares a lot about compliance? that he cares a lot about a projecting a certain sort of image? what's this dirt that frank's got on currie?
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fitz nation has to ask itself what dirty laundry grudge bombs frank is going to drop. is it that currie cares a lot about compliance? that he cares a lot about a projecting a certain sort of image? what's this dirt that frank's got on currie?
I would imagine Fitz is going to make up a bunch of crap and drop it anonymously so that everyone assumes it came from the Frank camp. It's no secret that Currie and Fitz do not get along.
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I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
You really don't think Currie's boss doesn't know he is a micro managing control freak? He could possibly think that Currie completely bungled the Jamar situation and not even consider firing Currie.
This was a personality conflict. What world do you live in where people get fired from 6 figure jobs because the people they supervise think that they are buttholes? Frank left because he didn't like his boss, unless he is hiding proof of Currie embezzling money, no one has anything to gain by a former employee whining about his mean/weird boss.
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fitz nation has to ask itself what dirty laundry grudge bombs frank is going to drop. is it that currie cares a lot about compliance? that he cares a lot about a projecting a certain sort of image?
Well, that would make Frank look like a complete dumbshit, which I would also enjoy. If that makes me a member of FitzNation, SO BE IT.
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I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
You really don't think Currie's boss doesn't know he is a micro managing control freak? He could possibly think that Currie completely bungled the Jamar situation and not even consider firing Currie.
This was a personality conflict. What world do you live in where people get fired from 6 figure jobs because the people they supervise think that they are buttholes? Frank left because he didn't like his boss, unless he is hiding proof of Currie embezzling money, no one has anything to gain by a former employee whining about his mean/weird boss.
the real world.
sincerely,
Al Bohl.
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fitz nation has to ask itself what dirty laundry grudge bombs frank is going to drop. is it that currie cares a lot about compliance? that he cares a lot about a projecting a certain sort of image? what's this dirt that frank's got on currie?
I would imagine Fitz is going to make up a bunch of crap and drop it anonymously so that everyone assumes it came from the Frank camp. It's no secret that Currie and Fitz do not get along.
This probably has roots in that goEMAW nation opened currie's eyes to fitz's disgusting molesting ways, right?
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fitz nation has to ask itself what dirty laundry grudge bombs frank is going to drop. is it that currie cares a lot about compliance? that he cares a lot about a projecting a certain sort of image? what's this dirt that frank's got on currie?
I would imagine Fitz is going to make up a bunch of crap and drop it anonymously so that everyone assumes it came from the Frank camp. It's no secret that Currie and Fitz do not get along.
This probably has roots in that goEMAW nation opened currie's eyes to fitz's disgusting molesting ways, right?
I would think so.
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I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
You really don't think Currie's boss doesn't know he is a micro managing control freak? He could possibly think that Currie completely bungled the Jamar situation and not even consider firing Currie.
This was a personality conflict. What world do you live in where people get fired from 6 figure jobs because the people they supervise think that they are buttholes? Frank left because he didn't like his boss, unless he is hiding proof of Currie embezzling money, no one has anything to gain by a former employee whining about his mean/weird boss.
the real world.
sincerely,
Al Bohl.
:lol:
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I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
You really don't think Currie's boss doesn't know he is a micro managing control freak? He could possibly think that Currie completely bungled the Jamar situation and not even consider firing Currie.
This was a personality conflict. What world do you live in where people get fired from 6 figure jobs because the people they supervise think that they are buttholes? Frank left because he didn't like his boss, unless he is hiding proof of Currie embezzling money, no one has anything to gain by a former employee whining about his mean/weird boss.
the real world.
sincerely,
Al Bohl.
Interesting you mention him, he freaking embezzled money! http://www2.kusports.com/news/2003/apr/10/al_bohl_timeline/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2003/apr/10/al_bohl_timeline/)
Despite that on your happy days you don't think that Frank yields 1/10th the power that Ol' Roy does. lol, you're trying too hard.
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This can't become like the Illinois search/debacle. The image of the program is damaged by that. Given, Illinois has other issues related to their AD, a controversial and not fully supported FB coach search, and the UP. We have other issues that influence the process. For the sake of the program, this search can't set us back. So regardless of where everyone is with whose fault is this, who said what, why some things aren't being said, where a receipt was allegedly found, or whatever, we really need to be concerned with the process now and hope that the AD is aggressive in contacting a home-run and making sure he won't turn the option down.
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A young AD typically would be given a little latitude on his first hire, if the head coach he was replacing was terminated for under performance or had left for a higher profiled job.
When the most popular/winningest coach in 25 years gets the hell out of town for a demotion to a dogsh*t program like South Carolina over a reported personal conflict, you better hit a home run or you can start picking out For Sale signs.
I'd guess Schulz put 0% blame on Currie for Frank leaving.
It was abundantly clear after the presser that Currie told Shulz the only reason frank left is because of the suspension and shulz doesn't really wgaf about anything else.
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This can't become like the Illinois search/debacle. The image of the program is damaged by that. Given, Illinois has other issues related to their AD, a controversial and not fully supported FB coach search, and the UP. We have other issues that influence the process. For the sake of the program, this search can't set us back. So regardless of where everyone is with whose fault is this, who said what, why some things aren't being said, where a receipt was allegedly found, or whatever, we really need to be concerned with the process now and hope that the AD is aggressive in contacting a home-run and making sure he won't turn the option down.
I have no idea what happened w/ the Illinois search other than they wanted smart and didn't get him and hired some smelly loser that the dumbass national writers love. BFD.
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I don’t follow how this is a coping mechanism. I don’t think it’s irrational to think that if frank went public with everything (i.e. naming specifics about what went on, describing the “hell” that john put him through) that two things could have happened:
The specifics of what Frank speaks about aren’t believable and are petty:
- Frank ends up looking like a crybaby (winner = ksu)
The specifics of what Frank speaks about are believable and aren’t petty:
- John ends up looking like an overbearing jerk and liar so much so that he gets canned (winner = ksu)
You really don't think Currie's boss doesn't know he is a micro managing control freak? He could possibly think that Currie completely bungled the Jamar situation and not even consider firing Currie.
This was a personality conflict. What world do you live in where people get fired from 6 figure jobs because the people they supervise think that they are buttholes? Frank left because he didn't like his boss, unless he is hiding proof of Currie embezzling money, no one has anything to gain by a former employee whining about his mean/weird boss.
the real world.
sincerely,
Al Bohl.
Interesting you mention him, he freaking embezzled money! http://www2.kusports.com/news/2003/apr/10/al_bohl_timeline/ (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2003/apr/10/al_bohl_timeline/)
Despite that on your happy days you don't think that Frank yields 1/10th the power that Ol' Roy does. lol, you're trying too hard.
•March 28, 2003 -- Prominent KU benefactor Dana Anderson, a friend of Williams and former member of the KU Athletics Corp. board of directors, makes known his feelings about the athletics department turmoil. "If there are irreconcilable differences between coach and Al Bohl -- and I don't have any animosity toward Al Bohl -- but if a choice needs to be made, it's not really much of a choice. Coach feels like he's being micromanaged, and if that's the case we need to eliminate the micromanagement. I don't want to negotiate or debate it. Let's just make the change."
U-G-L-Y you ain't got no alibi.
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confused, what just happened there
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confused, what just happened there
•March 28, 2003 -- Prominent KU benefactor Dana Anderson, a friend of Williams and former member of the KU Athletics Corp. board of directors, makes known his feelings about the athletics department turmoil. "If there are irreconcilable differences between coach and Al Bohl -- and I don't have any animosity toward Al Bohl -- but if a choice needs to be made, it's not really much of a choice. Coach feels like he's being micromanaged, and if that's the case we need to eliminate the micromanagement. I don't want to negotiate or debate it. Let's just make the change."
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confused, what just happened there
•March 28, 2003 -- Prominent KU benefactor Dana Anderson, a friend of Williams and former member of the KU Athletics Corp. board of directors, makes known his feelings about the athletics department turmoil. "If there are irreconcilable differences between coach and Al Bohl -- and I don't have any animosity toward Al Bohl -- but if a choice needs to be made, it's not really much of a choice. Coach feels like he's being micromanaged, and if that's the case we need to eliminate the micromanagement. I don't want to negotiate or debate it. Let's just make the change."
EXACTLY HOW THAT crap SHOULD BE HANDLED
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BITB just responded to one of my tweets on air!
:surprised:
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BITB just responded to one of my tweets on air!
:surprised:
You shouldn't call people names. It isn't nice.
:nono:
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confused, what just happened there
•March 28, 2003 -- Prominent KU benefactor Dana Anderson, a friend of Williams and former member of the KU Athletics Corp. board of directors, makes known his feelings about the athletics department turmoil. "If there are irreconcilable differences between coach and Al Bohl -- and I don't have any animosity toward Al Bohl -- but if a choice needs to be made, it's not really much of a choice. Coach feels like he's being micromanaged, and if that's the case we need to eliminate the micromanagement. I don't want to negotiate or debate it. Let's just make the change."
EXACTLY HOW THAT crap SHOULD BE HANDLED
worked well for KU, fired AD, then coach left and got a better coach.
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confused, what just happened there
•March 28, 2003 -- Prominent KU benefactor Dana Anderson, a friend of Williams and former member of the KU Athletics Corp. board of directors, makes known his feelings about the athletics department turmoil. "If there are irreconcilable differences between coach and Al Bohl -- and I don't have any animosity toward Al Bohl -- but if a choice needs to be made, it's not really much of a choice. Coach feels like he's being micromanaged, and if that's the case we need to eliminate the micromanagement. I don't want to negotiate or debate it. Let's just make the change."
So if I'm understanding correctly you're pointing to that sole thing on the timeline as the reason he was fired? Nothing about being accused of stealing $200,000, nothing about running an athletic department that got hammered by the NCAA, nothing about giving an extension to a losing coach after his first year, Bohl got fired solely because his basketball coach didn't like him. Okay, run with that if it suits you.
Are we also ignoring that you're favorably comparing Frank Martin's influence to that of Roy Williams?
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BITB just responded to one of my tweets on air!
:surprised:
So Blessed
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And a KUBoobs girl just favorited one of my tweets!
:love:
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And a KUBoobs girl just favorited one of my tweets!
:love:
quite the day for the Beems.
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Maybe she can be lucky #61 or whatever you're up to
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Currie came in and fixed the $hit sandwich that the athletic department handed Schulz from Day One.
He bought himself a bajillion dollars worth of equity with the new university president.
Thus, the university president IS NOT going to cut his young snakey AD loose over a Frank Martin deal.
In addition, the university president probably wants West Stadium Centre more than the snakey AD does. The university president see's the construction fencing going up around the West side of football stadium and knows that his tie tugging young AD is responsible for much of it.
Sorry kids, but ADJC is carrying around an AMEX Black Card with an unlimited credit line in the eyes of UPKS.
However, if ADJC effs this up, and potentially costs UPKS his athletic complex Shangra-La . . . that Black Card may get snipped in half.
i enjoyed this post.
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And a KUBoobs girl just favorited one of my tweets!
:love:
Congrats @beems34!
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And a KUBoobs girl just favorited one of my tweets!
:love:
Congrats @beems34!
BITB?
:surprised:
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Currie came in and fixed the $hit sandwich that the athletic department handed Schulz from Day One.
He bought himself a bajillion dollars worth of equity with the new university president.
Thus, the university president IS NOT going to cut his young snakey AD loose over a Frank Martin deal.
In addition, the university president probably wants West Stadium Centre more than the snakey AD does. The university president see's the construction fencing going up around the West side of football stadium and knows that his tie tugging young AD is responsible for much of it.
Sorry kids, but ADJC is carrying around an AMEX Black Card with an unlimited credit line in the eyes of UPKS.
However, if ADJC effs this up, and potentially costs UPKS his athletic complex Shangra-La . . . that Black Card may get snipped in half.
i enjoyed this post.
:thumbs:
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And a KUBoobs girl just favorited one of my tweets!
:love:
Congrats @beems34!
BITB?
:surprised:
might as well call it a day beems. leave em wanting more. "alright!! that's it for me!"
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Gottlieb on with him right now. Praising KSU job
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KSU was interested, he never heard from John Currie - "John Currie locked himself in a room and made his choice"
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Kietz basically saying he would have worked out.
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KSU was interested, he never heard from John Currie - "John Currie locked himself in a room and made his choice"
:frown: i'm never gonna get over gottlieb. currie mushed 24/7 espn, sexy good smelling beautiful hearthrob doug gottlieb (& fam) for mother effing chicken nuggets and hugs. mother eff.
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KSU was interested, he never heard from John Currie - "John Currie locked himself in a room and made his choice"
:frown: i'm never gonna get over gottlieb. currie mushed 24/7 espn, sexy good smelling beautiful hearthrob doug gottlieb (& fam) for mother effing chicken nuggets and hugs. mother eff.
Yep. chicken nuggets will win 16 or so games this year, and Currie will do a "Mission Accomplished" level of celebration to let everyone know his hire worked. Then Currie will be gone in with in 2 yrs. I mean, realistically, he has to know 2yrs is the amt of time before ppl question chicken nuggets as well as a solid guess at Bill's timeline.
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I don't like Currie.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
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I am changing my tune in line with Pete.
The Division One landscape is saying that if you're not doing major facilities projects than you're basically not doing your job as an AD.
No points for Currie.
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I am torn between wanting John Currie to have a good reputation so he can GTFO and wanting him to have his reputation soiled so he never gets a good job anywhere else. I mean, I want him to leave, but also, eff that guy for mushing Pearl and then DG.
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I get the Call Bill thing, but you know Bill will give him a good enough of a review to get him out of KSU.
That said, you guys may be right. I mean, he does have to carry budget flash cards in his pocket at all time since he has troubs remembering a few numbers that he works with daily.
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I am changing my tune in line with Pete.
The Division One landscape is saying that if you're not doing major facilities projects than you're basically not doing your job as an AD.
No points for Currie.
Currie seems like the first AD that realized you can ask people for money more than once every 10 years. That's a big deal at K-State but not anywhere else.
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I am torn between wanting John Currie to have a good reputation so he can GTFO and wanting him to have his reputation soiled so he never gets a good job anywhere else. I mean, I want him to leave, but also, eff that guy for mushing Pearl and then DG.
He can rot in MHJI am torn between wanting John Currie to have a good reputation so he can GTFO and wanting him to have his reputation soiled so he never gets a good job anywhere else. I mean, I want him to leave, but also, eff that guy for mushing Pearl and then DG.
He can rot in MHK, you know his wife hates it.
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I get the Call Bill thing, but you know Bill will give him a good enough of a review to get him out of KSU.
grumblings Bill is working back channels to get him run the eff out of town. like, Bill hates him more than Frank did.
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Micro Managers cannot stand to be micro managed. It's like the worst thing ever.
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Micro Managers cannot stand to be micro managed. It's like the worst thing ever.
agreed. but it goes further than that.
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Micro Managers cannot stand to be micro managed. It's like the worst thing ever.
agreed. but it goes further than that.
I assume Currie kicked Sean out of the AD, which is why he became a coach, and Bill is pushing Currie out so that he can position Sean back in line for the AD. :dunno:
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If I moved to Manhattan, wouldn't Currie have to leave town?
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eff that guy for mushing Pearl and then DG.
and JL
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Bill hates Currie, and basically wishes Currie was dead. Common knowledge.
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I hope Bill punches Currie this football season.
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2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time
I don't think that will happen.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
Thinking JC will get a better job is nothing more than good ole fashioned KSU butthurt. "oh, we're small, everyone will go somewhere better!" Idiots.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
Thinking JC will get a better job is nothing more than good ole fashioned KSU butthurt. "oh, we're small, everyone will go somewhere better!" Idiots.
I said he won't.
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seems like yesterday that everyone hated snyder and loved currie.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
Thinking JC will get a better job is nothing more than good ole fashioned KSU butthurt. "oh, we're small, everyone will go somewhere better!" Idiots.
I said he won't.
I know. I was agreeing.
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
what will next year be? :popcorn:
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
what will next year be? :popcorn:
weber will save us from whitney
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
what will next year be? :popcorn:
weber will save us from whitney
:horrorsurprise:
mind = blown
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
tough to argue with this one
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last year: currie will save us from snyder!
this year: snyder will save us from currie!
tough to argue with this one
yeah, that's quite the pickle
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
Thinking JC will get a better job is nothing more than good ole fashioned KSU butthurt. "oh, we're small, everyone will go somewhere better!" Idiots.
Thinking that a guy like Currie doesn't want a better job and isn't going to do what he can to get a better job could be viewed as idiotic too. There are plenty of schools out there that have bigger Ath budgets than ours and this is Currie's first AD gig. For the AD type, isn't the idea to keep moving up in the world? By moving up, I mean as a career and job responsibility/power thing, not an overall how good is your school at football thing.
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Currie wants a conference office job, or ncaa
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Currie wants a conference office job, or ncaa
would be a good fit
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Conference office/NCAA executive jobs might be some of the cushiest jobs in the country.
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Currie wants a conference office job, or ncaa
would be a good fit
He would eff us in the A if he got an NCAA job. And Frank would be in deep crap.
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Currie has hurt his value over the past 12 months. He won't even get a lateral job.
IF:
1. Bill keeps doing Billthings
and
2. the BTF and BSFS facilities finish on time and are what is expected
and
3. oscar doesn't blow up a year or two earlier than expected
He will be able to point to the huge facilities upgrades, our FB success, and his fundraising success. Then all he has to do is make up some lies(or truths) about Frank that can't be outright disproven without causing a major stink. Gotta think that would get him in at some mid level SEC, or other football oriented, school pretty easily.
Any Pres. from the SEC is going to immediately pick up the phone to ask Bill how was he with the football program. Plus, Frank is IN the SEC now and will absolutely tell everyone about Currie.
I am not a facilities guru but I think a lot of schools are doing upgrading so that isn't such a huge feat.
We shall see but I think JC has done some damage to his rep and there are a TON of guys out there who have not.
Thinking JC will get a better job is nothing more than good ole fashioned KSU butthurt. "oh, we're small, everyone will go somewhere better!" Idiots.
Thinking that a guy like Currie doesn't want a better job and isn't going to do what he can to get a better job could be viewed as idiotic too. There are plenty of schools out there that have bigger Ath budgets than ours and this is Currie's first AD gig. For the AD type, isn't the idea to keep moving up in the world? By moving up, I mean as a career and job responsibility/power thing, not an overall how good is your school at football thing.
I'm sure he wants a better job, but he sucks. It's like worrying about Jim Wooldridge wanting a better job.
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BITB was on my flight from kc > philly > nyc. US airways express :love:! No sign of skeetbag
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US airways express
woof. not very bitb-y
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BITB:
Just checking into hotel with family and oscar weber is checking in next to me. Crazy. #K-statebasketball
:sdeek:
They're gonna bang!
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US airways express
woof. not very bitb-y
Haha yeah I know, but why not ride in a prop plane at least once in your life :dunno:
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Also, is Abefroman & BITB there to take out Webber? :horrorsurprise:
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:peek:
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Also, is Abeforman & BITB there to take out Webber? :horrorsurprise:
I think Gottlieb would still take the job.
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John Currie staged the on field marriage proposal as a publicity stunt. Bill was FURIOUS
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John Currie staged the on field marriage proposal as a publicity stunt. Bill was FURIOUS
man, that would be epic
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Whole Lee Crap . . . no way.
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:lol:
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John Currie staged the on field marriage proposal as a publicity stunt. Bill was FURIOUS
Is this really what BITB said?
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:sdeek:
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John Currie staged the on field marriage proposal as a publicity stunt. Bill was FURIOUS
Is this really what BITB said?
Yes, we are really gonna need some more info on this.
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did bitb say that?
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ITK KNOWS IT. Also I got caught up in the currie stuff and forgot this was the BITB thread. :comeatme:
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BITB just became BITU (universe)
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ITK KNOWS IT. Also I got caught up in the currie stuff and forgot this was the BITB thread. :comeatme:
man oh man. pm more details if you don't want to post.
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Explains the odd look on snyd's face when the camera cut to . Can someone repost?
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SHEEE SAIDD YYYYES!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDGUbIWzrdU)
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lol. being itk is so bossly
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Look. I like a lot of what LHC Bill Snyder has done at KSU...a whole lot of it.
But that was his own fault. He's the one that put "Family" in the stadium name. It's Whitney's stadium too.
I'm on Currie's side here. A guy who demands that a stadium be named after his whole family instead of just himself probably really loves his family and would be touched to see his daughter get engaged in such a special place...or maybe not.
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did whitney snyder get engaged to a london cop or something? wtf? also lmao @ synds
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I think that's the Fireman's ROTC.
And one more helpful hint: If you get down on one knee and the chick starts to pull away and back up, re-tie your shoe and put that ring back in your pocket.
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that video is amazing. love that bill looks so annoyed by the best day in his daughters life :lol:
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I'd like to think that the first words out of his mouth into that headset were: "What the eff just happened?"
But it's more likely that he didn't even notice what was going on.
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that video is amazing. love that bill looks so annoyed by the best day in his daughters life :lol:
Oh yea, he's got that effing pregame planned down to the second and that extra minute ruined his whole week.
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that video is amazing. love that bill looks so annoyed by the best day in his daughters life :lol:
Oh yea, he's got that effing pregame planned down to the second and that extra minute ruined his whole week.
I'm pretty sure it was during a TV timeout.
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that video is amazing. love that bill looks so annoyed by the best day in his daughters life :lol:
Oh yea, he's got that effing pregame planned down to the second and that extra minute ruined his whole week.
I'm pretty sure it was during a TV timeout.
It was, which made it even more bizarre.
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SHEEE SAIDD YYYYES!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDGUbIWzrdU)
bwahaha, bill :lol:
also, was that not the most kstate0 thing of all time? we all just stood there looking at each other like, "did that just rough ridin' happen?"
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i think i'd also like to get engaged down on the field during a game. anybody know who i need to talk to in order to make that happen?
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:thumbs:
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_33 is a credit to this great goEMAW nation of ours.
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That was a clearly a, "Are you effing kidding me" look.
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:lol:
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:lol:
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:lol:
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Kietz calling for a banner at the Royals game.
Thanks for reading the board!
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Holy God that's funny.
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Congrats billy!! You blew it cano. - whb 810
No one knows their audience better than keitz. No one.
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Weber Answered All Questions Now
Feb 11, 2014 -- 11:30am
By Kevin Kietzman
oscar Weber has now answered every question at K-State.
Two years ago when athletic director John Currie announced Weber as the new coach at Kansas State, it was greeted with collective yawn by all things purple. Boring hire, recycled coach that couldn't win at Illinois, can't recruit and too nice of a guy to win in today's college basketball is what the critics shouted. I was yawning, too.
A little over a season and half into a tenure Weber says he hopes is his final destination and this coach has done everything they said he couldn't do.
"I don't have to hear whether you're gonna beat (KU) any more, we beat them," Weber told ESPN after K-State's 85-82 overtime win over Kansas Monday night.
There may be a day when beating Kansas at home in the regular season is not the highlight of the year at K-State, but for now, this one single win puts Weber in a whole new position as the coach in Manhattan.
Now that Weber has a win over KU and a remarkable 14-1 home record in Big 12 play, Weber is doing things no K-State coach has done since the days K-State ran side-by-side with their in-state rival. Reagan was President if you can remember that far back. This coach now has a conference co-championship under his belt and is headed to a second straight NCAA tournament thanks to big home wins over Texas and Kansas in the last three days. And this year, nobody is saying Weber is doing it with former coach Frank Martin's players.
That brings us to recruiting. Weber is truly the guy that tries to outwork everyone else in recruiting and he's found a sweet spot in Manhattan. Yes, Manhattan. I don't know when the stereotype will die that you can't recruit players to Manhattan, LHC Bill Snyder doesn't seem to have a huge problem, and look at the advantages Weber has recruiting players to K-State.
Tuesday morning, Holly Rowe of ESPN tweeted that she sees Weber at the Manhattan Airport at 5:00am after he slept for an hour or two. The players are off the day after the game and Weber has an advantage most coaches do not. He's five minutes from the airport and three or four hours from any recruit in America. No driving, no staying in hotel if he doesn't want. If he chooses to watch a game on the visit, he catches the first flight back in the morning and is back in his office by noon and getting ready for practice. oscar Weber has the opportunity to visit more recruits, more often and in less time than pretty much anyone else in the Big 12.
That brings us to freshmen Marcus Foster, Westicles, Nigel Johnson and Jevon Thomas. Foster is the best player on the team and popped for 20 in his first home game against the Jayhawks. He scored 34 over Texas on Saturday. It's pretty inconceivable that this is Foster's best week ever at K-State, something tells me he's got a lot more big wins and big moments in his time at KSU. Westicles is relied on to be a defensive stopper. Johnson was asked to handle the ball in the biggest game of his 18-year-old life and Thomas has been out the past two games after showing some really flashes as a speedy point guard. These are Weber's guys. All of them. And they just beat KU's freshmen. Apparantly recruiting is not going to be an issue and Weber has a pair of big men lined up for next year.
Weber has a shiny new practice facility at K-State that football money paid for and they proudly display a conference title banner in the place. He's also got the rowdiest student section in the Big 12 at his home games and maybe, just maybe, growing alumni support.
The pieces are in place for a nice run at K-State and oscar Weber has now answered every possible question from media or his fans about what he can or cannot do at Kansas State. If he's shown enough love, K-State may be able to keep this coach for a long time even if other schools come calling. Weber wants to do things his way and that makes him a perfect fit for K-State. It's time for K-State fans to embrace it. What more could they possibly hope for?
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:emawkid:
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BITB indeed.
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my guess is kevin conveniently takes a vacation day today to avoid talking about the game last night - OR- he leads into his show with a 45 minute segment with the racin' boys.
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my guess is kevin conveniently takes a vacation day today to avoid talking about the game last night - OR- he leads into his show with a 45 minute segment with the racin' boys.
Did you hear what Richard Petty said about Danica??!? BITB will have them whipped into a frenzy.
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my guess is kevin conveniently takes a vacation day today to avoid talking about the game last night - OR- he leads into his show with a 45 minute segment with the racin' boys.
Nope, he will say something about how the stars aligned and KU was barely able to lose and only paid attention to the Cats for the last min of the regulation and how this is the worst Bill self D team in years.
Knock us as competition and knock them as undisciplined and soft. Double troll and take phone calls.
Will probably go further and talk about how Wiggins is crap until Bill threatens him, or something.
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'd love to hear your thoughts. We're in the trust tree here, no judging.
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
well if they don't, who does? or is every school in the big 12 equal here?
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I had actually forgotten that Jack was even on the team.
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oscar can absolutely leave his house thirty minutes before take off and still catch his flight and then be in either dallas or chicago in 1.5 hours. kstate has it pretty good. three daily to dallas and two daily to ord.
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
Hugs has a direct flight to Dulles 3x/day
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
well if they don't, who does? or is every school in the big 12 equal here?
TCU, UT for sure because of many more directs. I guess OKC has a few but that's a pretty damn pud airport and it's a long way from Norman. Really, no one has a huge advantage or disadvantage looking strictly at travel for recruiting purposes..
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
Hugs has a direct flight to Dulles 3x/day
Either you are or I am Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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oscar can absolutely leave his house thirty minutes before take off and still catch his flight and then be in either dallas or chicago in 1.5 hours. kstate has it pretty good. three daily to dallas and two daily to ord.
well, lon can leave his house 1 hour before take off and go from will rogers to any hub in the country in 1.5 hours, but that extra 30 minute drive i guess gives KSU the advantage for sure
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I had actually forgotten that Jack was even on the team.
I believe he's redshirting (medical) now.
Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
And Foster is much, much better than a 3 star. He's consistently mentioned in ESPN's top 10 FR list.
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
If that is the case, then oscar is a heck of an x and o guy.
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Football $$$ did not pay for the BBTF.
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
well if they don't, who does? or is every school in the big 12 equal here?
TCU, UT for sure because of many more directs. I guess OKC has a few but that's a pretty damn pud airport and it's a long way from Norman. Really, no one has a huge advantage or disadvantage looking strictly at travel for recruiting purposes..
austin has more directs than okc? ok
and jesus christ man, it is 20 miles from the center of OU campus to will rogers. it is 30 miles from TCU to DFW
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
And I'll add that Foster is rough ridin' amazing. Easily better than any Frank recruit (sans Beasley and Walker, obvs.) Yeah I'll say it he's a better recruiting coup than Pullen.
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Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
If that is the case, then oscar is a heck of an x and o guy.
ouch, that had to have stung (k)rusty's forehead
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I had actually forgotten that Jack was even on the team.
I believe he's redshirting (medical) now.
Tech has no edge in anything.
I won't share my thoughts on the freshmen because people will get mad at me right now.
I'm sure you'll have a pretty realistic view of them.
IMHO finding players like this is how I've always wanted K-State to recruit. Get decent 3 star talent as much as possible that you can keep around and develop. It just happens that in this class oscar has two that are playing better than 3 star talent. Now, we'll need to get some 4 star talent as well to sustain success, but its hard at this point to complain much about oscar's recruiting. He took a flyer on Orris and corrected it and we'll see what happens with Jack, but otherwise I really like it and I think he's built a great base to sustain success with as long as he can continue to recruit other similar (and hopefully better) players.
He only has one playing above 3 star talent. The rest look like a Wooldridge class.
IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
And Foster is much, much better than a 3 star. He's consistently mentioned in ESPN's top 10 FR list.
Westicles is playing like what you would expect a three star soph/junior to play like but doing it as a frosh, imo.
Nigel is what I expect three star frosh to look like
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
well if they don't, who does? or is every school in the big 12 equal here?
TCU, UT for sure because of many more directs. I guess OKC has a few but that's a pretty damn pud airport and it's a long way from Norman. Really, no one has a huge advantage or disadvantage looking strictly at travel for recruiting purposes..
austin has more directs than okc? ok
and jesus christ man, it is 20 miles from the center of OU campus to will rogers. it is 30 miles from TCU to DFW
Jesus Christ STFU
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OU in no way has a travel advantage
well if they don't, who does? or is every school in the big 12 equal here?
TCU, UT for sure because of many more directs. I guess OKC has a few but that's a pretty damn pud airport and it's a long way from Norman. Really, no one has a huge advantage or disadvantage looking strictly at travel for recruiting purposes..
austin has more directs than okc? ok
and jesus christ man, it is 20 miles from the center of OU campus to will rogers. it is 30 miles from TCU to DFW
Jesus Christ STFU
well don't go saying stupid stuff then
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
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Westicles is playing like what you would expect a three star soph/junior to play like but doing it as a frosh, imo.
Nigel is what I expect three star frosh to look like
They are people too, not just stars CNS. What if I called you a two star?
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Westicles is playing like what you would expect a three star soph/junior to play like but doing it as a frosh, imo.
Nigel is what I expect three star frosh to look like
They are people too, not just stars CNS. What if I called you a two star?
I was a walk on you son of a bitch!
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GOD DAMN IT, IT'S ALMOST TIME FOR BITB, SHUT UP YOU GUYS!
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
For Wes to play 24 mpg and avg 7/4/2 as a freshman is very decent. Better-than-Nick-Williams decent.
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
I have no problem going there.
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
I have no problem going there.
Would you still say he's not playing at a Nick Williams level?
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
Also, Nick wasn't as DITRy as Westicles - IIRC he was a top 10 in Texas before getting kicked out high school or some such
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
I have no problem going there.
Would you still say he's not playing at a Nick Williams level?
He's close.
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IMHO Westicles is playing at a pretty decent level, at least slightly above what you'd expect for a 3 star recruit.
Would you say he's playing at a Nick Williams level?
(I wouldn't)
With the internet, you probably shouldn't have gone there (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-williams&i=1&nick-williams=2001-2002&p1=wesley-Westicles).
I have no problem going there.
Would you still say he's not playing at a Nick Williams level?
He's close.
They look pretty even. Nick was more of a 2 though and Westicles is a 3, (and a much better rebounder and FT rater).
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OK, Wesley is the equivalent of a three-star Wooly recruit.
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OK, Wesley is the equivalent of a threefour-star Wooly recruit.
couldn't resist
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles)
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OK, Wesley is the equivalent of a threefour-star Wooly recruit.
couldn't resist
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles)
:Wha:
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OK, Wesley is the equivalent of a threefour-star Wooly recruit.
couldn't resist
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=cartier-martin&cartier-martin=2003-2004&i=1&p1=wesley-Westicles)
:surprised:
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Wesley is 6'9" now, not 6'7". :D
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
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didn't oscar say Wundy has grown like 2 inches since he got on campus? guys, what if he grows 2 more inches!?!?
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Wesley is 6'9" now, not 6'7". :D
oops, thanks Wacky
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didn't oscar say Wundy has grown like 2 inches since he got on campus? guys, what if he grows 2 more inches!?!?
:crossfingers:
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Wesley is 6'9" now, not 6'7". :D
oops, thanks Wacky
Anytime! He's grown those 2 inches since he got to campus. :D
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
recap/highlights?
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lol butthurt ku fan on completely embarrassing himself
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
recap/highlights?
Yes, I want a steve dave like recap of this thing.
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lol butthurt ku fan on completely embarrassing himself
the callers on 810 are awful.
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Jesus BITB is mushing the hell out of ku butthurt
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
recap/highlights?
A couple of things that stood out to me were his criticism of Self for not going to the full court press sooner. Thinks KU would've won by 10 if they had used it more. Also said it is "now a rivalry....in Manhattan".
Overall very complimentary of oscar and K-State, but his tone seems bitter.
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They're really lame and lol at BITB calling out that "Iowa" fan as being a KU fan. :ROFL:
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
recap/highlights?
A couple of things that stood out to me were his criticism of Self for not going to the full court press sooner. Thinks KU would've won by 10 if they had used it more. Also said it is "now a rivalry....in Manhattan".
Overall very complimentary of oscar and K-State, but his tone seems bitter.
He always sounds like that. They were real compliments. He speaks in a slightly defensive tone at times because he's constantly badgered by the strangest of sports fans.
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That was a tough segment for Kev to get thru. He has been forced to change the narrative about KU-K-State. A lot of backhanded compliments mixed in there.
recap/highlights?
A couple of things that stood out to me were his criticism of Self for not going to the full court press sooner. Thinks KU would've won by 10 if they had used it more. Also said it is "now a rivalry....in Manhattan".
Overall very complimentary of oscar and K-State, but his tone seems bitter.
He always sounds like that. They were real compliments. He speaks in a slightly defensive tone at times because he's constantly badgered by the strangest of sports fans.
Yes, of course. I hope that Townie wasn't going with the gP angle that KK hates K-State.
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really uncomfortable call about the n-word
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Yes, of course. I hope that Townie wasn't going with the gP angle that KK hates K-State.
I don't think that he hates K-State, I think he hates admitting that oscar is having success. Several here can probably relate to that.
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really uncomfortable call about the n-word
Me and Leebo went to lunch and HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACSIT!!!!!!
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I think he hates admitting that oscar is having success.
he loves the crap out of that
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Yes, of course. I hope that Townie wasn't going with the gP angle that KK hates K-State.
I don't think that he hates K-State, I think he hates admitting that oscar is having success. Several here can probably relate to that.
He's trying to mush the Weber haters.
He did refer to the KSU purple cats as a nice little team,tho.
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U2 bumper music tho
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Anyone thinking of adopting that dog? BITB is a man who cares.
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Is it time to give oscar a contract extension?
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Is it time to give oscar a contract extension?
didn't he get one last year?
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I think he hates admitting that oscar is having success.
he loves the crap out of that
yeah that's pretty clear
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Ted's call about softball for old grandpas :love:
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Ted's call about softball for old grandpas :love:
"This is Ted, I call you once a year.. "
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lostlettermen.com%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2Farticle%2Fksu_shirt.png&hash=8f75dd5d372353d116c23acd29b1cac9f7c61db8)
wait til they see this
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BITB compared a homosexual player to a player who has 6 children with 6 different women in terms of a distraction to a team
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BITB compared a homosexual player to a player who has 6 children with 6 different women in terms of a distraction to a team
Ya, he got real close to suggesting some sort of a mutual moral sketchiness between the two situations, but sort of pulled out of it.
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That 70 year old that just called in. :sdeek: "I just don't like that lifestyle!" Grandpa, was that you?
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BITB compared a homosexual player to a player who has 6 children with 6 different women in terms of a distraction to a team
He's legitimately a piece of crap (not crap). Yesterday he took several pages out of FSD's poor mistreated white man book yesterday. I heard him say race card at least 10 times yesterday, no exaggeration, when referring to Marcus Smart
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What is gay football?
:facepalm:
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
Hugs has a direct flight to Dulles 3x/day
What? From Morgantown? How is that possible when sports teams can't land there?
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
Hugs has a direct flight to Dulles 3x/day
What? From Morgantown? How is that possible when sports teams can't land there?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgantown_Municipal_Airport
They may only be able to land tiny planes there (charters), and the flights probably don't have the capacity to handle an entire basketball team. Plus coming from the west, flying into Pittsburgh and driving is probably faster than flying through Dulles.
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Kietz is just slaying ppl today. Get them a body bag.
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Some dude called in and said that he was impartial and an Oregon fan, his point was that he was irritated that one and done talent is all anyone gives any credit to in the college game. In passing he mentioned that he thought BITB was more favorable to KU and Keitz saw an opportunity and jumped on it with both feet. He got all fake indignant and said he calls it like he sees it "KU final fours, national champ, nine s8 etc..." Really laying it on thick...
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that caller had to be a plant
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KK said anyone blasting the old fool because he cites the supposed word of god etched down of clay tablets in the bronze age as the basis as his bigotry is just as bigoted as the bigot.
That 70 year old that just called in. :sdeek: "I just don't like that lifestyle!" Grandpa, was that you?
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BITB indeed.
i agree with just about everything in there, except oscar's travel advantages were a little overblown
TCU, Tech and UT are likely a slight edge, but other than that I think it's accurate from a travel standpoint.
and OU. and, having an advantage over 50% of the conference is certainly different than "pretty much anyone else in the Big 12"
Hugs has a direct flight to Dulles 3x/day
What? From Morgantown? How is that possible when sports teams can't land there?
http://www.morgantownairport.com/
Commercial Flights
Commercial flights are operated out of Morgantown Municipal Airport (MGW) by Colgan Air, Inc. as “UNITED EXPRESS” to DULLES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT (IAD) daily. Three departure flights with four arrival flights Monday thru Friday, with two flights daily on Saturday and Sunday. DULLES INTERNATIONAL provides daily connections to over 125 domestic destinations and over 30 international locations.
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He's going to trash us today. :frown: I just know it!
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He's going to trash us today. :frown: I just know it!
Didn't Mizzou have a bad loss recently?
Here we go!!!
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I bet he's talking up the benching with 2 talking point.
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I bet he's talking up the benching with 2 talking point.
Soren spent 30 minutes on this during his show today.
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BITB is melting down about Harbaugh. So blessed.
:love: :love: :love:
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BITB is melting down about Harbaugh. So blessed.
:love: :love: :love:
You're the 4th person on a message board that has said this. Details please.
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BITB is melting down about Harbaugh. So blessed.
:love: :love: :love:
You're the 4th person on a message board that has said this. Details please.
He's Trolling KU fans. Quoting Bill Self saying he would never do anything to take away from Senior Night. Then pounding away at how Harbaugh took away from Senior Night.
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omg i wish i could listen
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He is whipping squawk ass
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omg i wish i could listen
Me too. :frown:
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For those who didn' t listen, KK pointed out Self said it was a great big deal tradition at KU that senior night was all about the seniors and one-and-done freshmen need not think they were going to be recognized in any way to take the focus off the glorious seniors who this year are his son and one-year transfer Black. And then he did exactly that by allowing the Harbaugh at practice video to be shown.
Yawn, but of course it was stink bait for sqwawks
And speaking of yawn, the problem solving bit? WTF? White noise.
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I actually caught part of this. The best was when he got Jason King (who has been relegated to fawning over Ku sports from BR :lol: such a douche), and Jason pretended he didn't know what was going on and then said it was probably an accident the video got out.
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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WTF is wrong with Stan that he calls a roofer about a squirrel prob? :lol:
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WTF is wrong with Stan that he calls a roofer about a squirrel prob? :lol:
That Ron Buck sounds like one awesome son of bitch.
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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More interesting was this nugget:
BITB: "Stan you ever played air guitar in your whole life?"
Stan: "No, no Kevin, I never have"
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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More interesting was this nugget:
BITB: "Stan you ever played air guitar in your whole life?"
Stan: "No, no Kevin, I never have"
stan is a liar. a... rough ridin' liar
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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More interesting was this nugget:
BITB: "Stan you ever played air guitar in your whole life?"
Stan: "No, no Kevin, I never have"
stan is a liar. a... rough ridin' liar
I believe it.
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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More interesting was this nugget:
BITB: "Stan you ever played air guitar in your whole life?"
Stan: "No, no Kevin, I never have"
stan is a liar. a... rough ridin' liar
I believe it.
i don't. not for a minute. not for a second. not for a millisecond. not for a nanosecond.
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Guys true story. Stan had a squirrel stuck in his roof, and Ron Buck came over and organized the effort to remove that rough ridin' squirrel.
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More interesting was this nugget:
BITB: "Stan you ever played air guitar in your whole life?"
Stan: "No, no Kevin, I never have"
stan is a liar. a... rough ridin' liar
I believe it.
i don't. not for a minute. not for a second. not for a millisecond. not for a nanosecond.
okay, cool.
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maybe stan had some ram overflow and he doesn't remember it or something, but there is no way a 40+ yr old man has never air guitared.
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maybe stan had some ram overflow and he doesn't remember it or something, but there is no way a 40+ yr old man has never air guitared.
bullshit.
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stan looks like a stick in the mud.
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stan looks like a stick in the mud.
:don'tcare:
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Playing air guitar doesn't compute with Stanbot. This should surprise no one.
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If it's not necessary Stanbot doesn't do it.
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If it's not necessary Stanbot doesn't do it.
that's steve dave level efficiency :surprised:
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WTF is wrong with Stan that he calls a roofer about a squirrel prob? :lol:
That Ron Buck sounds like one awesome son of bitch.
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Can confirm.
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Squirrel whisperer, apparently
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Squirrel whisperer, apparently
He's like a Nazi general, but for squirrels. Sure, he'll round them up and "deal" with them, but don't expect him to get his hands dirty.
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For those of you Frank fans, he's on 810 right now. He's been on for awhile, so you can probably get it later on the site today. Have fun.
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I bet he didn't have a take on fosters tude
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I bet he didn't have a take on fosters tude
He never mentioned K-State, but he did talk about past players tho. BITB tried to make a case to Frank that the SEC might be better than the Big 12 this year. :lol:
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Sadly for me, a huge Fightin Cocks fan. I fear another SEC loss or two, and Frank is going to come unhinged.
What's even more sad, is that just a few weeks ago on his call inn show, Frank sounded so happy.
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Sadly for me, a huge Fightin Cocks fan. I fear another SEC loss or two, and Frank is going to come unhinged.
What's even more sad, is that just a few weeks ago on his call inn show, Frank sounded so happy.
At least you didn't make some silly fulcrum post. Sheesh.
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Sadly for me, a huge Fightin Cocks fan. I fear another SEC loss or two, and Frank is going to come unhinged.
What's even more sad, is that just a few weeks ago on his call inn show, Frank sounded so happy.
At least you didn't make some silly fulcrum post. Sheesh.
What's a fulcrum post? Is that something you did? Oh yeah . . . dumb.
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Why does Kiets keep interviewing Martin? Does he have some purple willie basketball boner for Martin? I don't see him calling up ol' Roy alum of KU. The past was good, but it is gone; flushed, spread on the field by the manure spreader of life. Weber is our man and this team is starting to sky rocket. I listened to 810 today, and the only turd chucking at KSU came from Between The Lines. If I stil had a dog I would have let him whizz on my radio and the voice of this pompous runt.
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Why does Kiets keep interviewing Martin? Does he have some purple willie basketball boner for Martin? I don't see him calling up ol' Roy alum of KU. The past was good, but it is gone; flushed, spread on the field by the manure spreader of life. Weber is our man and this team is starting to sky rocket. I listened to 810 today, and the only turd chucking at KSU came from Between The Lines. If I stil had a dog I would have let him whizz on my radio and the voice of this pompous runt.
Most people have forgotten about Mizzou but they play in the same league as Frank and Keitz kinda covers Mizzou Sports
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Why does Kiets keep interviewing Martin? Does he have some purple willie basketball boner for Martin? I don't see him calling up ol' Roy alum of KU. The past was good, but it is gone; flushed, spread on the field by the manure spreader of life. Weber is our man and this team is starting to sky rocket. I listened to 810 today, and the only turd chucking at KSU came from Between The Lines. If I stil had a dog I would have let him whizz on my radio and the voice of this pompous runt.
what happened to your dog?
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maybe stan had some ram overflow and he doesn't remember it or something, but there is no way a 40+ yr old man has never air guitared.
Stan is 50+
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Yeah he's actually over 60
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Yeah he's actually over 60
No, he's probably about 53.
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stan's enthusiasm for kansas state is unparalleled. just kidding, there's a ton of people who love the cats because it's so great to be a cat.
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Yeah he's actually over 60
No, he's probably about 53.
Talked with him during the World Series. He looked to be in his late 40s, though some of that may have been the your-team-in-the-world series glow
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well, let's see- he played in the shrine bowl in 1980 and graduated kats u in '84 so like pete said, he's ~53 go cats
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Why does Kiets keep interviewing Martin? Does he have some purple willie basketball boner for Martin? I don't see him calling up ol' Roy alum of KU. The past was good, but it is gone; flushed, spread on the field by the manure spreader of life. Weber is our man and this team is starting to sky rocket. I listened to 810 today, and the only turd chucking at KSU came from Between The Lines. If I stil had a dog I would have let him whizz on my radio and the voice of this pompous runt.
Kietz has a boyish crush on Frank. He always has. When he heard about the back and forth Frank and I had about 3 years ago on twitter, He reached out to Kietz, because I had 810 Varsity in my profile. 810 contacted me and told me to take it out of my profile and that I was on a suspension from doing $20 high school games for awhile. :lol: Kietz backs his boys. They've reached out to me since, but I've said: "No, thanks". By the time you drive to the game, you eat up that $20 in gas anyways. :lol: I've started to value my weekends more with age. :)
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This is #HotStove info i'm dishing out to you guys. Usually ppl have to pay premium for this type of stuff. YW!
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only wacky could have a #fanningbrag about a $20 gig he used to have, but pissed it away because he couldn't behave himself on twitter. a damn shame.
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only wacky could have a #fanningbrag about a $20 gig he used to have, but pissed it away because he couldn't behave himself on twitter. a damn shame.
It's good crap and funny as hell no matter how you swing it. I was never going to be the next "voice" of anything so i'm pretty meh about it. Also, gives you a little insight to how that station is ran, as I've done before for 610. You guys like sports. I assume you guys like these ITK little knick knacks.
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Yeah, like knees, it's weird that a company doesn't want their employees, or people affiliated with them, being dumbasses on twitter when that person's profile clearly states that they are affiliated with said company.
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Yeah, like knees, it's weird that a company doesn't want their employees, or people affiliated with them, being dumbasses on twitter when that person's profile clearly states that they are affiliated with said company.
I don't think i'm the only dumbass on twitter affiliated to a company, but ok. I could see myself giving two shits if I was making a bunch of $ doing it, but lol at them thinking I give a damn about $20 a game (then them crawling back to me when they have a hard time staffing games). gE is full of dumbasses on twitter. Lighten up, M^2. JFC.
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The knees thing was hilarious when it first came about...not gEing I laughed so hard.
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http://media.610sports.com/a/118004044/01-05-8a-replay-in-sports-lax-names-terez-paylor-top-10.htm?q=oscar+weber&seek=81.669 (http://media.610sports.com/a/118004044/01-05-8a-replay-in-sports-lax-names-terez-paylor-top-10.htm?q=oscar+weber&seek=81.669)
Go to 1:19 mark. Which one of you did this?
Tom
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:ROFL:
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http://media.610sports.com/a/118004044/01-05-8a-replay-in-sports-lax-names-terez-paylor-top-10.htm?q=oscar+weber&seek=81.669 (http://media.610sports.com/a/118004044/01-05-8a-replay-in-sports-lax-names-terez-paylor-top-10.htm?q=oscar+weber&seek=81.669)
Go to 1:19 mark. Which one of you did this?
Tom
Awesome, wish I would have thought of that. I really don't know anyone that can do a serviceable impression of Oscar, though.
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That was great.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I literally just fell off my chair at work :ROFL:
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holy crap that's incredible
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that is freaking amazing.
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Pretty sure its Ben Heisler, the producer for The Drive
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Pretty sure its Ben Heisler, the producer for The Drive
I think so. I have heard him do a oscar impression before on the show.
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wow that was much better than I thought it would be
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#1 not near fast enough a good #oscar is much faster. #2 not a single run on sentence.
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On weekly conference call, Jamie Dixon in response to a St. Johns' question said TCU called for six travels against KU's 2 (both of Svi) in conference opener. Said traveling a point of emphasis with conference officials this year.
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keegan and danny both state that the non travelling call was the single worst call/non call they've seen in any sporting event ever. keegan said maybe the denkinger safe call from thirty years ago was similar.
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:lol:
Weber Out...
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"rough ridin' hop scotch"
:lol:
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That was great.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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#1 not near fast enough a good #oscar is much faster. #2 not a single run on sentence.
The adult beverages slowed his brain down.
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Fantastic. Thanks for sharing, Tom.
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"BITB hinting that ADJC is ready to move on oscar Weber, but may be put on hold by UPRM. Says things are "wild" behind the scenes at KSU.
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"BITB hinting that ADJC is ready to move on oscar Weber, but may be put on hold by UPRM. Says things are "wild" behind the scenes at KSU.
BITB!
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It true I think UPRM is looking too big picture. I'm sure he is thinking any instability and seeing large checks to fire someone will look bad at a critical time in the budget process.
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"BITB hinting that ADJC is ready to move on oscar Weber, but may be put on hold by UPRM. Says things are "wild" behind the scenes at KSU.
If true, :curse: :curse: :curse:......let him do his job!!!!!!! We don't need Wefaldv2.0
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What was said this AM? I'm sure he went full shirt tuck on our guy TW. I'm sure the word classless was used at least 5 times. Maybe even a #family.
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Bitb is afternoon drive bruh
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Someone said he was on a morning show bitching or something.
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The only person who mentioned it was the morning show. They were making fun of him a bit and saying it was way over the top. Thought Weber looked good by giving him a high five. That was a bought it. They played the video via twitter on the air.
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It was around 7:30 this morning if that helps.
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It true I think UPRM is looking too big picture. I'm sure he is thinking any instability and seeing large checks to fire someone will look bad at a critical time in the budget process.
Friend, that's perception only. The AD is in the last year of getting any university support. Now it's a pittance from SGA, next FY, $0.
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It true I think UPRM is looking too big picture. I'm sure he is thinking any instability and seeing large checks to fire someone will look bad at a critical time in the budget process.
Friend, that's perception only. The AD is in the last year of getting any university support. Now it's a pittance from SGA, next FY, $0.
I know they have been drawing down the general fund contribution to athletics. The point I was making is that the legislature wont understand that nuance and if they did, they would argue that if we have so much money to break off a mediocre coach then we should have more then enough money to fund other other programs that are being smashed by the budget cuts, like the massive draw down in subscriptions for academic resources at Hale.
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AD =/ University General Fund
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Post links to any media types talking about testy westy, bitb or otherwise.
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It true I think UPRM is looking too big picture. I'm sure he is thinking any instability and seeing large checks to fire someone will look bad at a critical time in the budget process.
Friend, that's perception only. The AD is in the last year of getting any university support. Now it's a pittance from SGA, next FY, $0.
I know they have been drawing down the general fund contribution to athletics. The point I was making is that the legislature wont understand that nuance and if they did, they would argue that if we have so much money to break off a mediocre coach then we should have more then enough money to fund other other programs that are being smashed by the budget cuts, like the massive draw down in subscriptions for academic resources at Hale.
The regents and relevant legislators have had it explained to them on multiple occasions that Kstate athletics is at the end of receiving any funds from the academic/student governance side of Kstate and that Kstate athletics pumps nearly $10 million a year into the academic side in tuition and fees, as well as employing students.
Plus, Kstate Athletics Inc would likely offer a multi year settlement pay out to Weber, just like most other schools do. Unless of course the payout were relatively small.
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It true I think UPRM is looking too big picture. I'm sure he is thinking any instability and seeing large checks to fire someone will look bad at a critical time in the budget process.
Friend, that's perception only. The AD is in the last year of getting any university support. Now it's a pittance from SGA, next FY, $0.
I know they have been drawing down the general fund contribution to athletics. The point I was making is that the legislature wont understand that nuance and if they did, they would argue that if we have so much money to break off a mediocre coach then we should have more then enough money to fund other other programs that are being smashed by the budget cuts, like the massive draw down in subscriptions for academic resources at Hale.
The regents and relevant legislators have had it explained to them on multiple occasions that Kstate athletics is at the end of receiving any funds from the academic/student governance side of Kstate and that Kstate athletics pumps nearly $10 million a year into the academic side in tuition and fees, as well as employing students.
Plus, Kstate Athletics Inc would likely offer a multi year settlement pay out to Weber, just like most other schools do. Unless of course the payout were relatively small.
I have no doubt that they have had these things explained to them multiple times and multiple ways. But that doesn't stop them from making asinine decisions and claims. Hell look at some of their (leg's) reactions to UPKS leaving and them taking random political swipes. Similarly it reminds me of people bitching to Jim Calhoun about his salary and being the highest paid state employee while failing to realize the millions UConn basketball puts into the university systems and local economies. I guess I'm saying just because you are factually right doesn't mean someone wont try and warp the optics to make a political point, and I think you and I can agree on that.