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Some big news today from the Zimmerman trial:1. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found under Martin's fingernails.2. None of Martin's DNA was found on the murder weapon.3. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's sweatshirt.
Quote from: OregonSmock on July 03, 2013, 04:06:26 PMSome big news today from the Zimmerman trial:1. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found under Martin's fingernails.2. None of Martin's DNA was found on the murder weapon.3. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's sweatshirt.Not big. Nothing really.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 04:38:54 PMQuote from: OregonSmock on July 03, 2013, 04:06:26 PMSome big news today from the Zimmerman trial:1. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found under Martin's fingernails.2. None of Martin's DNA was found on the murder weapon.3. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's sweatshirt.Not big. Nothing really.The only thing that was sort of surprising to me was that there was none of Martin's DNA on the murder weapon. I don't really know if that is normal or not, but I would think there would have been some blood on it seeing as how Zimmerman supposedly had the gun pressed against his body when he fired the shot. I already knew about there not being any of Zimmerman's DNA behind Martin's Fingernails, which doesn't really prove anything, but doesn't support Zimmerman's story about Martin using his hands to bash Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 03, 2013, 04:43:31 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 04:38:54 PMQuote from: OregonSmock on July 03, 2013, 04:06:26 PMSome big news today from the Zimmerman trial:1. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found under Martin's fingernails.2. None of Martin's DNA was found on the murder weapon.3. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's sweatshirt.Not big. Nothing really.The only thing that was sort of surprising to me was that there was none of Martin's DNA on the murder weapon. I don't really know if that is normal or not, but I would think there would have been some blood on it seeing as how Zimmerman supposedly had the gun pressed against his body when he fired the shot. I already knew about there not being any of Zimmerman's DNA behind Martin's Fingernails, which doesn't really prove anything, but doesn't support Zimmerman's story about Martin using his hands to bash Zimmerman's head into the concrete.I've watched/listened to quite a bit of the trial the last 3 days. Zimmerman didn't have any scratches from fingernails on him, just a lot of blunt force trauma. Most of the DNA had washed off the gun, probably because of the rain. There wasn't even any DNA on the trigger from either of them. The holster had DNA from Zimmerman and another unknown source (partial DNA), Martin not excluded IIRC. Some of Zimmerman's blood was found on Martin's clothes.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 05:02:46 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 03, 2013, 04:43:31 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 04:38:54 PMQuote from: OregonSmock on July 03, 2013, 04:06:26 PMSome big news today from the Zimmerman trial:1. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found under Martin's fingernails.2. None of Martin's DNA was found on the murder weapon.3. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's sweatshirt.Not big. Nothing really.The only thing that was sort of surprising to me was that there was none of Martin's DNA on the murder weapon. I don't really know if that is normal or not, but I would think there would have been some blood on it seeing as how Zimmerman supposedly had the gun pressed against his body when he fired the shot. I already knew about there not being any of Zimmerman's DNA behind Martin's Fingernails, which doesn't really prove anything, but doesn't support Zimmerman's story about Martin using his hands to bash Zimmerman's head into the concrete.I've watched/listened to quite a bit of the trial the last 3 days. Zimmerman didn't have any scratches from fingernails on him, just a lot of blunt force trauma. Most of the DNA had washed off the gun, probably because of the rain. There wasn't even any DNA on the trigger from either of them. The holster had DNA from Zimmerman and another unknown source (partial DNA), Martin not excluded IIRC. Some of Zimmerman's blood was found on Martin's clothes.Zimm will walk, and this will be a big reason why
Not sure why anyone would expect Martin to have Zimm's DNA under his fingernails. It sounds like all of the injuries would be from closed fists and grabbing clothes to lift and slam him down on the concrete. Blood from the broken nose would be going down his throat if he was on his back until he was upright.
Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 05:18:36 PMNot sure why anyone would expect Martin to have Zimm's DNA under his fingernails. It sounds like all of the injuries would be from closed fists and grabbing clothes to lift and slam him down on the concrete. Blood from the broken nose would be going down his throat if he was on his back until he was upright.Zimmerman said Martin was holding his nose shut.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 03, 2013, 06:36:31 PMQuote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2013, 05:18:36 PMNot sure why anyone would expect Martin to have Zimm's DNA under his fingernails. It sounds like all of the injuries would be from closed fists and grabbing clothes to lift and slam him down on the concrete. Blood from the broken nose would be going down his throat if he was on his back until he was upright.Zimmerman said Martin was holding his nose shut.Did he scratch him? I looked at some pictures but didn't see any.
just like to add in, after rolling around in the grass with the weight of another person on him, leveraging himself to get off the concrete, in the rain and mud and after getting hit "25 times" here's GZ's jacket. And pants
Really weird watching all the GZ fans in this thread trying to do everything they can to explain why their boy George is somehow not a terrible human.
I'm not a fan of GZ, I'm a fan of evidence and trials.I think GZ put himself in a bad position and made poor decision going after TM, but the prosecution doesn't have a case for 2nd degree murder and should have gone for manslaughter at the most. I think they were forced into going for a murder charge by the over zealous media and race-baiters like Jackson-Sharpton-New Black Panthers-NBC. He's going to walk.
wait, they aren't also charging him with manslaughter or some lesser crime than murder? isn't that stupid?
Quote from: sys on July 04, 2013, 12:42:36 PMwait, they aren't also charging him with manslaughter or some lesser crime than murder? isn't that stupid?When both sides rest, the court determines - with argument from both sides - which lesser offenses the jury gets as options to select aside from what he's charged with or not guilty.
Are those 7's? I love those jeans.