George Zimmerman is a piece of crap

[star seed 7]

MIR, I'm going to assume it is outside the realm of possibility for you to consider that GZ disengaged from TM and lost sight of him, at which time TM decided to re-engage the situation and elevated it to a physical altercation.

To me, this is 50 percent possible.  GZ hunting down and grabbing or threatening TM is also 50 percent possible. Unless more evidence comes out, I don't see how anyone can convict this guy.

If TM had killed GZ with one punch (freak things happen) would any of you automatically discount his side of the story?  Would any of you say he has to be guilty because the only other witness is dead? This is essentially what most of this board is doing.

He was confronted by an armed adult male who had been following him.  Pretty much a case study in self-defense there.

Yeah, because we would hear only his side of the story.  He might decide not to include things like if GZ had stopped following him and instead was returning to his truck and TM decided to suckerpuch GZ.  A case with the exact same evidence supports TM if he's alive and GZ is dead.   There are too many unknowns, yet most of this board keeps giving their assumptions as fact.

[steve dave]

If TM had killed GZ with one punch (freak things happen) would any of you automatically discount his side of the story?  Would any of you say he has to be guilty because the only other witness is dead? This is essentially what most of this board is doing.

nobody punches anyone with the intent to kill them. everyone who shoots someone in the chest intends to kill them. your logical leaps are astounding.

I think it's possible that the shot wasn't intended to be lethal, and had it hit his shoulder or arm, GZ wouldn't have shot him again.

There are too many unknowns, yet most of this board keeps giving their assumptions as fact.

[michigancat]

Is the idea that Zimmerman shot Martin a fact? Is it a fact that if Zimmerman had minded his own business, he wouldn't have had any reason to shoot Martin?

[OregonSmock]

Fact 1:  Martin was walking home to his dad's house with a bag of skittles and an iced tea

Fact 2:  Zimmerman killed Martin before he was able to get home

[star seed 7]

Fact 1:  Martin was walking home to his dad's house with a bag of skittles and an iced tea

Fact 2:  Zimmerman killed Martin before he was able to get home

Weren't you the guy earlier scolding someone for going from a to c without looking at b?

[star seed 7]

If TM had killed GZ with one punch (freak things happen) would any of you automatically discount his side of the story?  Would any of you say he has to be guilty because the only other witness is dead? This is essentially what most of this board is doing.

nobody punches anyone with the intent to kill them. everyone who shoots someone in the chest intends to kill them. your logical leaps are astounding.

I think it's possible that the shot wasn't intended to be lethal, and had it hit his shoulder or arm, GZ wouldn't have shot him again.

There are too many unknowns, yet most of this board keeps giving their assumptions as fact.

Hmm, if only I had qualified that with some statement as possibly happened instead of fact.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Fact 1:  Martin was walking home to his dad's house with a bag of skittles and an iced tea

Fact 2:  Zimmerman killed Martin before he was able to get home

Weren't you the guy earlier scolding someone for going from a to c without looking at b?

You're jumping from point A to point C, and missing point B.

[steve dave]

If TM had killed GZ with one punch (freak things happen) would any of you automatically discount his side of the story?  Would any of you say he has to be guilty because the only other witness is dead? This is essentially what most of this board is doing.

nobody punches anyone with the intent to kill them. everyone who shoots someone in the chest intends to kill them. your logical leaps are astounding.

I think it's possible that the shot wasn't intended to be lethal, and had it hit his shoulder or arm, GZ wouldn't have shot him again.

There are too many unknowns, yet most of this board keeps giving their assumptions as fact.

Hmm, if only I had qualified that with some statement as possibly happened instead of fact.

I read it to mean there was a chance that he didn't mean to fire a lethal round and a fact that he wouldn't have shot him again if it hadn't been lethal. I do feel better about you if you didn't mean the second part of it as fact.

[star seed 7]

It was all one train of thought, I don't always communicate the best.

[steve dave]

It was all one train of thought, I don't always communicate the best.

I start sentences with "like"

[SkinnyBenny]

If TM had killed GZ with one punch (freak things happen) would any of you automatically discount his side of the story?  Would any of you say he has to be guilty because the only other witness is dead? This is essentially what most of this board is doing.

nobody punches anyone with the intent to kill them. everyone who shoots someone in the chest intends to kill them. your logical leaps are astounding.

I think it's possible that the shot wasn't intended to be lethal, and had it hit his shoulder or arm, GZ wouldn't have shot him again.

Well then. How magnanimous that would've been of GZ. (If he hadn't shot and killed TM IRL, that is.)

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think i'm going to get a gun and creepily follow people, that i don't know, around at night all stalker like chasing them down the street and through yards of houses and then shoot them if any of them get freaked out and throw a punch or try to push me or something. go cats. ftb. 'merica.

[Dr Rick Daris]

oh my god lol. so there was this lady walking her dog (yorky?) outside of my house. i grabbed my gun and went outside and started walking after her with it. she was like "oh my god. no. no." and then she started running and she let the leash go and so i just kind of started running after her and then the dog was all freaking out and stuff and kind of jumped up on me so i shot the dog and then the lady freaked out more but then she fell and i ran up on her and she tried to kick me with her feet cause she was on the ground and she actually did land a kick so i shot her. she's dead now. i mean wtf was she doing all trying to kick me. pretty mumped up if you ask me. anyway lol.

[eastcat]

i think i'm going to get a gun and creepily follow people, that i don't know, around at night all stalker like chasing them down the street and through yards of houses and then shoot them if any of them get freaked out and throw a punch or try to push me or something. go cats. ftb. 'merica.

That's fine, I'll physically assault people who are wondering what i'm doing. Probably bash their head into the concrete.

[Shacks]

i think i'm going to get a gun and creepily follow people, that i don't know, around at night all stalker like chasing them down the street and through yards of houses and then shoot them if any of them get freaked out and throw a punch or try to push me or something. go cats. ftb. 'merica.

That's fine, I'll physically assault people who are wondering what i'm doing. Probably bash their head into the concrete.

Better hope you're not bringing fists to a gunfight

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think i'm going to get a gun and creepily follow people, that i don't know, around at night all stalker like chasing them down the street and through yards of houses and then shoot them if any of them get freaked out and throw a punch or try to push me or something. go cats. ftb. 'merica.

That's fine, I'll physically assault people who are wondering what i'm doing. Probably bash their head into the concrete.

better hope it's not me with my gun aggressively stalking you for no reason, because if it is then i will shoot you and kill you.

i mean this is the usa and if i want to follow you with a gun for no reason at all then you sure as crap better not run away from me or try to fight back or something. seriously. i mean i'm dead serious here. if i have a gun and you don't know me and i'm chasing you with my gun, then i expect you to immediately stop what you are doing, calmly stand still and then calmly answer all of my questions about you and your life and what the eff you are doing just walking around until i decide you can leave. if you don't, i'll shoot you dead. just saying. i will shoot you and you will die. america. go cats. ftb.

[Dr Rick Daris]

oh my god. another lady walking past my house. this time no dog. this lady has on jogging shorts and it looks like she is sweating. it's only 77 degrees out, why is she sweating? drugs?

[Trim]

oh my god. another lady walking past my house. this time no dog. this lady has on jogging shorts and it looks like she is sweating. it's only 77 degrees out, why is she sweating? drugs?

Your neighborhood's really gone to hell. 

[michigancat]

oh my god. another lady walking past my house. this time no dog. this lady has on jogging shorts and it looks like she is sweating. it's only 77 degrees out, why is she sweating? drugs?

These assholes, they always get away.

[Bloodfart]

My Winchester agrees with Rick Daris.  #WINCHESTER, #merica,  YOLO, & go cats.

[Dr Rick Daris]

alright that's it. she just walked past again but this time she's walking the other way. why can't she make up her mind where she wants to go? drugs? casing the neighborhood to steal stuff and buy more drugs? that's it though, i'm getting my gun and am going to chase after her with my gun and demand to know why she walked past my house one way and then just walked past it again the other way.

[Dr Rick Daris]

god rough ridin' damnit. she saw me coming with my gun and started running and was just honestly too fast and i couldn't catch her. almost like she was a rough ridin' god damn runner or athlete or something and of course i had my gun so i couldn't run as fast as i normally would/could. note to self-get holster for gun to run faster when chasing people with it.

[Asteriskhead]

Well, it's clearly not safe for me to walk home from the bars anymore now that Rick Daris is playing neighborhood police. I better start driving.

[Trim]

Well, it's clearly not safe for me to walk home from the bars anymore now that Rick Daris is playing neighborhood police. I better start driving.

Are you not good at fighting and/or disarming people?  Or how 'bout you just answer Daris' questions if he comes upon you?

[Dr Rick Daris]

you guys, another incident just happened and this one a complete wtf one. just incredible.