You better have some rough ridin' answers, Currie.

[EllToPay]

Of course, that would be assuming that KU would handle things the same was as K-State would, which they don't. As this hypothetical shows, the NCAA's model compliance process is laughable, if that's what K-State is following.

Slimz, at the end of the day, John Currie made a pledge to us. 

And that pledge was that he would run a model intercollegiate athletics program.  "A model intercollegiate athletics program can signify many things but we have five core measures that we will use here at K-State to define a model program,” Currie says. “And, overall, when people are talking about intercollegiate athletics and the programs in the nation that do it right, Kansas State should and can be one of those model programs.”

At the end of the day can the Squawks call themselves a model intercollegiate athletics department?  Can they say they do it right?  CAN THEY?

I hope this morning when those people put their red and blue attire upon themselves and gallivant into their offices and tote their mop buckets and carouse about their Sweet 16 appearance they keep that in mind.

They may win the basketball games, but we have the integrity and transparency in relation to ethics, finance and NCAA compliance.

Exactly. I don't have trouble sleeping at night. Not at all.

But do the resident squawks? Do they?

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What's Pete going to do now that Currie isn't giving him his rough ridin' answers?

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think part of the problem is the perception that currie and the compliance people appear to think that busting student athletes and prosecuting them to the fullest is part of their job. it shouldn't be. i mean what happened? some western union person called and said "hey, i think jamar just got some money from from curtis malone" and then the compliance people rang the compliance police alarm and immediately notified the NCAA and started investigating immediately based on that? i mean wtf? do they get bonuses every time they can keep one of our basketball players from playing a game or something.

instead, they should've been like "lol. ok thanks. i'll look into it" and then hung up. then maybe send Martin an email to an email account that they know he doesn't check and then go get a spicy at rab and call it a day.

Considering Curtis Malone told everyone who would listen the details as soon as the news was out, I wouldn't be surprised if someone asked Jamar about it and he told them what happened.

Fair enough, but that discussion occurs after a week or so at ku.  Not the morning they hear about it.

When did KSU hear about it?

If it wasn't the day of, why not play him if he played the game before unless someone else reported it.  No way we sat on it one game and not the other.

exactly. which means that kstate prob found out thursday or friday and were so amazingly hypervigilent in their investigation that the athletic director (not the ncaa) decided that he wouldn't be allowed to play on saturday. they were able to do all of this despite the fact that the athletic director and the entire basketball team was six states away. that seems more than a little aggresive. way to go kstate.

[wabash909]

Folks, it's spelled out pretty clearly here.

He took a pledge for us.  It doesn't matter if he's six states away.  A pledge is a pledge.

http://www.kstatesports.com/school-bio/kstate-pledge.html

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despite the fact that the athletic director and the entire basketball team was six states away.

Well there's one flaw in the procedure of hanging up and going to r-a-b, at least as it pertains to Currie.  I guess he could've gone to primanti's or whatever it was that everyone wouldn't shut up about last week.  THEY PUT FRIES ON THEIR SANDWICHES!

[420seriouscat69]

despite the fact that the athletic director and the entire basketball team was six states away.

Well there's one flaw in the procedure of hanging up and going to r-a-b, at least as it pertains to Currie.  I guess he could've gone to primanti's or whatever it was that everyone wouldn't shut up about last week.  THEY PUT FRIES ON THEIR SANDWICHES!

Don't forget about the coleslaw too.

[0.42]

Yeah, both sides have valid points, with the Jamar plays point being the most valid of them all.

I meant mainly about whether Currie was the one who mumped Jamar over or not. It's very possible Compliance pulled a fast one. I completely agree that Jamar should've played.

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despite the fact that the athletic director and the entire basketball team was six states away.

Well there's one flaw in the procedure of hanging up and going to r-a-b, at least as it pertains to Currie.  I guess he could've gone to primanti's or whatever it was that everyone wouldn't shut up about last week.  THEY PUT FRIES ON THEIR SANDWICHES!

Don't forget about the coleslaw too.

Yeah, I heard about that too.  So much info emanating out of Pittsburgh last week, all topped off with your big reveal re: "the suits."

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It's very possible Compliance pulled a fast one.

What does this mean?

[420seriouscat69]

despite the fact that the athletic director and the entire basketball team was six states away.

Well there's one flaw in the procedure of hanging up and going to r-a-b, at least as it pertains to Currie.  I guess he could've gone to primanti's or whatever it was that everyone wouldn't shut up about last week.  THEY PUT FRIES ON THEIR SANDWICHES!

Don't forget about the coleslaw too.

Yeah, I heard about that too.  So much info emanating out of Pittsburgh last week, all topped off with your big reveal re: "the suits."

 

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Yeah, I heard about that too.  So much info emanating out of Pittsburgh last week, all topped off with your big reveal re: "the suits."

 
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You're just determined to not help me at all in defending you to MIR, huh?

[420seriouscat69]

I just don't know what position to take on here sometimes. Play full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to entertain the crowd or throw in a few ITK tid bits here and there? You let me know Trim, you let me know.

[0.42]

It's very possible Compliance pulled a fast one.

What does this mean?

This means that Compliance acted on the squawk informant, went behind Currie's back or over his head, and advanced the case far enough to where Currie and Frank were forced to act on it.

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It's very possible Compliance pulled a fast one.

What does this mean?

This means that Compliance acted on the squawk informant, went behind Currie's back or over his head, and advanced the case far enough to where Currie and Frank were forced to act on it.

Man, what a shitty hire Currie made if so.

[Trim]

I just don't know what position to take on here sometimes. Play full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to entertain the crowd or throw in a few ITK tid bits here and there? You let me know Trim, you let me know.

Curtis Malone's $200 was your big money from the suits?

[0.42]

It's very possible Compliance pulled a fast one.

What does this mean?

This means that Compliance acted on the squawk informant, went behind Currie's back or over his head, and advanced the case far enough to where Currie and Frank were forced to act on it.

Man, what a shitty hire Currie made if so.

Yes, but it makes sense the more I think about it. Currie may have hired a self important control freak at Compliance Director to polish his image and compensate for the Pearl incidents, and it may have backfired. It wouldn't be the first time that a hire has blown up in a boss' face because his subordinate is too power-hungry.

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Yes, but it makes sense the more I think about it. Currie may have hired a self important control freak at Compliance Director to polish his image and compensate for the Pearl incidents, and it may have backfired. It wouldn't be the first time that a hire has blown up in a boss' face because his subordinate is too power-hungry.

Start a "You better have some rough ridin' answers, Vaughn" thread.

[michigancat]

Yes, but it makes sense the more I think about it. Currie may have hired a self important control freak at Compliance Director to polish his image and compensate for the Pearl incidents, and it may have backfired. It wouldn't be the first time that a hire has blown up in a boss' face because his subordinate is too power-hungry.

You also have to remember that he took over for super-party-non-stop-fun-time Bob Krause and his little shitstorm. That probably had more to do with it then the Pearl crap (which took place later). (this does not mean I think this was handled correctly, FWIW).

[0.42]

Yes, but it makes sense the more I think about it. Currie may have hired a self important control freak at Compliance Director to polish his image and compensate for the Pearl incidents, and it may have backfired. It wouldn't be the first time that a hire has blown up in a boss' face because his subordinate is too power-hungry.

Start a "You better have some rough ridin' answers, Vaughn" thread.

Yes, but it makes sense the more I think about it. Currie may have hired a self important control freak at Compliance Director to polish his image and compensate for the Pearl incidents, and it may have backfired. It wouldn't be the first time that a hire has blown up in a boss' face because his subordinate is too power-hungry.

You also have to remember that he took over for super-party-non-stop-fun-time Bob Krause and his little shitstorm. That probably had more to do with it then the Pearl crap (which took place later). (this does not mean I think this was handled correctly, FWIW).

Valid point. I might have jumped the gun by immediately using Currie as a scapegoat (although I do think he should've done more to stick up for Jamar than just talk him up on Wyatt's pregame show). What sucks is that we're never really going to know what happened unless we can get a captaincrap or BSAC scoop.

[sonofdaxjones]

I called ku compliance, and they said, "will you do your stand up for us at the end of year banquet"?

That's a big time program there folks .  . . nobody over there is picking up the narc line for $200 in foldin money.

["storm"nut]

Lets not forget we are in super transparency mode after Krause/Wefart. When you live in a glass house, the neighbors can see you doing the lines of coke very clearly.

[michigancat]

Valid point. I might have jumped the gun by immediately using Currie as a scapegoat (although I do think he should've done more to stick up for Jamar than just talk him up on Wyatt's pregame show). What sucks is that we're never really going to know what happened unless we can get a captaincrap or BSAC scoop.

Nothing Currie could have said would have made people happy. I suppose he could have repeated what he said to Wyatt to reporters, but no one here would think that's enough. And I think we'll find out what happened, or at least pretty close. They won't let Curtis Malone's story be the only version out there.

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I called ku compliance, and they said, "will you do your stand up for us at the end of year banquet"?

I would love to have a goEMAW end of year banquet at which Dax does material. 

[0.42]

Valid point. I might have jumped the gun by immediately using Currie as a scapegoat (although I do think he should've done more to stick up for Jamar than just talk him up on Wyatt's pregame show). What sucks is that we're never really going to know what happened unless we can get a captaincrap or BSAC scoop.

Nothing Currie could have said would have made people happy. I suppose he could have repeated what he said to Wyatt to reporters, but no one here would think that's enough. And I think we'll find out what happened, or at least pretty close. They won't let Curtis Malone's story be the only version out there.

It would've at least kept Jamar from looking like an bad person to the country and blunted the impact of the hit to his reputation if he had said the same thing during a postgame press conference that he'd said to Wyatt. I think that would have at least calmed some people down here. I'm not convinced on your second point. Given how the AD enables Snyder to run his fortress of silence with an iron fist, I wouldn't be surprised if they just sit on this and tell us true EMAW's to "deal with it" because the tuck hordes are openly supporting them.  The damage is already done in terms of negative ammunition for recruiting, and nobody's gonna pay any attention if we quietly leak something that explains the situation within the next couple of months, so they may just decide to sit on it and hope that it goes away.

[Pete]

What's Pete going to do now that Currie isn't giving him his rough ridin' answers?

I have a few thoughts on this, check your PM