You better have some rough ridin' answers, Currie.

[0.42]

I don't buy the argument that this can't boost Currie's resume in any sense. If he's angling for an SEC job or a win-at-all-costs school, then this yes, this is potentially damaging to him. But I feel like there are some Big Ten/Pac 12 schools that are obsessed with, at the very least, projecting a facade of doing things "the right way" and would rather use players as sacrificial lambs to continue to project that image, the coach's opinion be damned. Currie could be overcompensating with this and the CK/JP incidents to project that image after his dirt-filled past. In that sense, he's using us if true.

It's a conditional argument, but if Currie is interviewing for those types of jobs instead of schools that willingly get down and dirty, it's a possibility. We won't know though until we actually hear anything (we won't).

I've calmed down from my stance of tossing Currie in the 'Kaw, but jesus christ, going on a pregame radio show and calling it a day is not nearly enough to restore a player's reputation. At the very least, Currie has shown that his PR skills are weak. I'd take Currie over Wefald in a heartbeat, but if this crap keeps up and/or he runs off Frank, I want him zipped up in a bag for Collin Klein to pound during practice drills.

[michigancat]

I don't buy the argument that this can't boost Currie's resume in any sense. If he's angling for an SEC job or a win-at-all-costs school, then this yes, this is potentially damaging to him. But I feel like there are some Big Ten/Pac 12 schools that are obsessed with, at the very least, projecting a facade of doing things "the right way" and would rather use players as sacrificial lambs to continue to project that image, the coach's opinion be damned. Currie could be overcompensating with this and the CK/JP incidents to project that image after his dirt-filled past. In that sense, he's using us if true.

This issue doesn't make him look good in any way. You may have a point with CK/JP/Dillards, but not when Curtis Malone is involved. NO rough ridin' way does a school serious about compliance like the way this was handled. I have some very nice posts on the subject in this thread that I encourage you to read.

[0.42]

I'll look them over, I saw you'd posted stuff earlier but I kinda skimmed them because I was reading the thread while stuck in traffic and I was mainly trying to focus on noticing when everything started moving again.

[0.42]

Ok I am now very much politically neutral dog

[Rams]

you're acting like he mumped Jamar over for some personal gain or did this to further his own agenda. 

No, he isn't.

Well...then we have different definitions of "throwing someone under the bus"...and mine is right.

From Wikipedia...

To throw (someone) under the bus is an idiomatic phrase meaning to sacrifice another person (often a friend or ally), who is usually not deserving of such treatment, out of malice or for personal gain.

[wabash909]

This entire thing is so rotten.  I simply cannot believe that a compliance department and AD, as overzealous as they may be, would take an action as severe and far reaching as this without some substantive evidence.

And it just perplexes me that a some low life rat would have the ability to contact the athletic department to try to incriminate one of our student athletes, and if some form of real evidence wasn't provided, that this matter would even be investigated and this type of punishment would be delivered.

I'd really hope somebody at some point does some actual investigative reporting, not some silly Tim Fitzgerald opinion piece, and sheds a little light on what actually occurred here.

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Re: Western Union Locations in Manhattan?
   
I work in customer service in the East Side dillons. I can assure you if the western union was done at ours, it was not one of our people that reported it. It is highly confidential, and a transaction like that would not be deemed suspisious. Plus only myself and about 3 other people that work the western union would know who Jamar Samuels is. In fact the few people that did know who he was asked me why he was suspended. So I would look at West side dillons, and there is also a couple other locations I think...pretty sure hyvee might have one as well as at least one other place.
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Re: Western Union Locations in Manhattan?

my store used to be an agent for western union 4
years ago. transactions are highly confidential
and any clerk that would bring the transaction to
the attention to anyone might be subject to dismissal.

when we were agents we could not even give information
to the police department. the western web site shows
5 agents in manhattan. 2 dillions, hy-vee gas and i
believe 2 convenience stores. nearest site appears to
be westloop dillions.

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I"m 99 percent confident the incident occurred at Dillon's west. I saw Jamar Samuels in there (along with Jeremy Jones) the DAY before they left for Pittsburgh. I saw him in the check out line and appeared to have roughly 100-120 dollars worth of groceries. So if you want to find the rat, I'd go to Dillon's on west loop.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, both sides have valid points, with the Jamar plays point being the most valid of them all.

 

[puniraptor]

Good to see at least some of them rat hunting instead of jamar crucifying or currie blowing.

[AbeFroman]

So it appears he really was buying groceries. Makes currie and the rat look like even bigger vaginas

["storm"nut]

I feel our anger is misdirected.

We obviously have a mole following our players around and when they slip up, they call the compliance office and report us.

The mole needs to be exposed and taken out.

[sonofdaxjones]

Fine point Abe . . . so a hungry K-State student athlete got some grocery money from a long time friend. 

You think Anthony Davis at Kentucky worries about grocery money?   

["storm"nut]

So it appears he really was buying groceries. Makes currie and the rat look like even bigger vaginas

Currie has no blood on his hands.

The mole must be taken out.

[sonofdaxjones]

It was Thursday Spring Break week; food services which also means the training table is shut down for the week correct??

["storm"nut]

It was Thursday Spring Break week; food services which also means the training table is shut down for the week correct??

I don't think they shut down until Friday.

Another reason Currie wants the west side expansion: The training table facilities are part of it. If we would have had this Jamar would not have need the money.

So I blame this on the donors for not donating more money and quicker.

[Trim]

Has anybody tried e-mailing Currie?  He responds to every e-mail.

Maybe change the subject line to something a little cheerier than "You better have some rough ridin' answers, Currie."

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think part of the problem is the perception that currie and the compliance people appear to think that busting student athletes and prosecuting them to the fullest is part of their job. it shouldn't be. i mean what happened? some western union person called and said "hey, i think jamar just got some money from from curtis malone" and then the compliance people rang the compliance police alarm and immediately notified the NCAA and started investigating immediately based on that? i mean wtf? do they get bonuses every time they can keep one of our basketball players from playing a game or something.

instead, they should've been like "lol. ok thanks. i'll look into it" and then hung up. then maybe send Martin an email to an email account that they know he doesn't check and then go get a spicy at rab and call it a day.

["storm"nut]

I have a feeling that Currie and Frank would have loved to sweep this, the Pullen/Curtis Dillards shop and drop, and all the failed drug tests but some one has a big powertrip inside KSUAD. Probably the director of compliance. Would look bad to fire said Director as he/she would come back and squeal. She/he better never be late to the office.

[wabash909]

i think part of the problem is the perception that currie and the compliance people appear to think that busting student athletes and prosecuting them to the fullest is part of their job. it shouldn't be. i mean what happened? some western union person called and said "hey, i think jamar just got some money from from curtis malone" and then the compliance people rang the compliance police alarm and immediately notified the NCAA and started investigating immediately based on that? i mean wtf? do they get bonuses every time they can keep one of our basketball players from playing a game or something.

instead, they should've been like "lol. ok thanks. i'll look into it" and then hung up. then maybe send Martin an email to an email account that they know he doesn't check and then go get a spicy at rab and call it a day.

Exactly.

[Trim]

and then go get a spicy at rab and call it a day.

[Trim]

I have a feeling that Currie and Frank would have loved to sweep this, the Pullen/Curtis Dillards shop and drop, and all the failed drug tests but some one has a big powertrip inside KSUAD. Probably the director of compliance.

Yep, fire Cosh.

["storm"nut]

I have a feeling that Currie and Frank would have loved to sweep this, the Pullen/Curtis Dillards shop and drop, and all the failed drug tests but some one has a big powertrip inside KSUAD. Probably the director of compliance.

Yep, fire Cosh.

Spradling may be The Mole. We had no issues until he set foot on campus.

[Rams]

I have a feeling that Currie and Frank would have loved to sweep this, the Pullen/Curtis Dillards shop and drop, and all the failed drug tests but some one has a big powertrip inside KSUAD. Probably the director of compliance. Would look bad to fire said Director as he/she would come back and squeal. She/he better never be late to the office.

I think this is probably closer to the truth than anything.  I'm guessing Frank and Currie would love to have the power/resources/experience to effectively cover up crap like this, but they don't. 

If you think about it, it actually makes a lot of K-State0 sense that we would want to be able to cover more crap up but just end up bumbling around for a little while and then telling on ourselves cause we're K-State0.

[wabash909]

and then go get a spicy at rab and call it a day.

And wash it all down with a cool and refreshing Long Island Iced Tea.

[Dugout DickStone]

I feel our anger is misdirected.

We obviously have a mole following our players around and when they slip up, they call the compliance office and report us.

The mole needs to be exposed and taken out.

Could it be sprads!? 

[wabash909]

So it appears he really was buying groceries. Makes currie and the rat look like even bigger vaginas

Currie has no blood on his hands.

The mole must be taken out.

Stormy, it's your job to smoke him out.  Smoke him out of his hole.