You better have some rough ridin' answers, Currie.

[DQ12]

I'm just really sad about how this all played out. 

Poor Jamar.

 

[420seriouscat69]

Sys and Michigancat showing their true colors as dipshits in this thread. Congrats guys. Dumbasses. "Hey, we're the cool edgy guys. We'll PI ppl till they think we know more about basketball, but we really suck at life.". Dumbasses.

[Barry McCockner]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

we wouldn't be in the sweet 16, quit suggesting that.  it is so rough ridin' ridiculous to suggest that we would have won with jamar.  people should be mad that jamar was suspended, but that is not why we lost.

So, do you think we would have won with Jamar?

[DQ12]

Sys and Michigancat showing their true colors as dipshits in this thread. Congrats guys. Dumbasses. "Hey, we're the cool edgy guys. We'll PI ppl till they think we know more about basketball, but we really suck at life.". Dumbasses.

Okay we get it, ITKFanning.

[ChiComCat]

Scoops Fanning

[Barry McCockner]

Someone give him a cookie so he'll stfu.

[420seriouscat69]

Ya, didn't want to be this respect. But these two dipshits drop me to this level every time. They apparently have something against me.I know I've been a douche in this thread, but eff. What did I do to those dipshits besides try to drop some info off?

[Deez Nutz]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

Problem is a majority of our fanbase would. That's why we will never have nice things.

Agreed.

I hate our fans.  Fools.  Just rough ridin' fools.

Lots of people here seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the person who reported this was a religious narc shirt-tuck powerespect townie.  But until we know more details about it, I don't think that assumption is totally warranted.  It could very well have been somebody who has a bone to pick with KSU basketball or even a fan of a different team, like a Huskerpride-type that happens to live in Manhattan.  In fact, I met an older guy one time that was a townie who worked at the Dillon's in Westloop who totally hated the crap out of K-State and hoped the lost every single game.  Don't know if he still works there or not, but maybe it was him.  I doubt an actual KSU fan would have reported it.

[MakeItRain]

Enlighten me, but call me an idiot first. I just wouldn't feel right if I didn't get called an idiot for having too many other things on my mind over the last 12 months than some rough ridin' NCAA rule that I didn't think any 'Cat would be stupid enough to break again.

idiot.  under $100 in impermissable benes is no penalty.  under $300 is 3 games (for bball).  when the school's compliance office finds out about a potential violation, they sit the player, investigate and self report.  the ncaa examines the school's findings and rules whenever they get around to it.

what's the penalty if we know about it and ignore it until after the game? lack of institutional control?

In this specific case they could have reported it but played him pending a NCAA ruling using the prior relationship exception.  If the NCAA ruled after the fact that he should have been ineligible I think the worst case scenario would have been to vacate the game and each succeeding game.  Possibly a fine, no way would an isolated incident like that would have constituted any probation of any type.

Can you call it an isolated incident after the Beasley accusations?

Since the Beasley accusations haven't even been investigated by the NCAA, yes I can call Jamar's issue an isolated incident.  Also I'll say it again, self reporting isn't the same as self penalizing.  Reporting the issue doesn't mean that we had to sit him.  There isn't a harsher penalty for playing a guy after reporting a POSSIBLE eligibility issue.

[michigancat]

Enlighten me, but call me an idiot first. I just wouldn't feel right if I didn't get called an idiot for having too many other things on my mind over the last 12 months than some rough ridin' NCAA rule that I didn't think any 'Cat would be stupid enough to break again.

idiot.  under $100 in impermissable benes is no penalty.  under $300 is 3 games (for bball).  when the school's compliance office finds out about a potential violation, they sit the player, investigate and self report.  the ncaa examines the school's findings and rules whenever they get around to it.

what's the penalty if we know about it and ignore it until after the game? lack of institutional control?

In this specific case they could have reported it but played him pending a NCAA ruling using the prior relationship exception.  If the NCAA ruled after the fact that he should have been ineligible I think the worst case scenario would have been to vacate the game and each succeeding game.  Possibly a fine, no way would an isolated incident like that would have constituted any probation of any type.

Can you call it an isolated incident after the Beasley accusations?

Since the Beasley accusations haven't even been investigated by the NCAA, yes I can call Jamar's issue an isolated incident.  Also I'll say it again, self reporting isn't the same as self penalizing.  Reporting the issue doesn't mean that we had to sit him.  There isn't a harsher penalty for playing a guy after reporting a POSSIBLE eligibility issue.

Makes sense.

[SkinnyBenny]

What do you expect from the average white townie (no offense to the the "good" townies on this board).

I remember going to a couple of townie events held on campus back when I was at K-State, as the invited guest of a member of the K-State faculty.  Sitting at dinner tables in the K-State Union ballroom, surrounded by middling to upper crust townie types.   Unbelievable.

It's the worst. There are many good townies but SO MANY BAD TOWNIES. I rough ridin' hate it. It's awful. Did we learn nothing???

[chum1]

that was a good scoop, faninng.

[bigDcat]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

Problem is a majority of our fanbase would. That's why we will never have nice things.

Agreed.

I hate our fans.  Fools.  Just rough ridin' fools.

Lots of people here seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the person who reported this was a religious narc shirt-tuck powerespect townie.  But until we know more details about it, I don't think that assumption is totally warranted.  It could very well have been somebody who has a bone to pick with KSU basketball or even a fan of a different team, like a Huskerpride-type that happens to live in Manhattan.  In fact, I met an older guy one time that was a townie who worked at the Dillon's in Westloop who totally hated the crap out of K-State and hoped the lost every single game.  Don't know if he still works there or not, but maybe it was him.  I doubt an actual KSU fan would have reported it.

Whatever, Christian.


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[kim carnes]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

Problem is a majority of our fanbase would. That's why we will never have nice things.

Agreed.

I hate our fans.  Fools.  Just rough ridin' fools.

Lots of people here seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the person who reported this was a religious narc shirt-tuck powerespect townie.  But until we know more details about it, I don't think that assumption is totally warranted.  It could very well have been somebody who has a bone to pick with KSU basketball or even a fan of a different team, like a Huskerpride-type that happens to live in Manhattan.  In fact, I met an older guy one time that was a townie who worked at the Dillon's in Westloop who totally hated the crap out of K-State and hoped the lost every single game.  Don't know if he still works there or not, but maybe it was him.  I doubt an actual KSU fan would have reported it.

it was probably some low life.  i mean really, who works at western union?

[EMAWzified]

JFC, from the scout site: "Unfortunately, most athletes spend that money on PS3's, tattoos, Jordan shoes, and everything else in this world that is not a necessity."
I haven't had much use for the "I hate our fans" attitude, but I hate having anything in common with that eff head racist.

[JKEYS]

western union at a grocery store. I mean why not deliver him a rough ridin' game show check at halftime of the USM game.

This may be the best post in the entire 10 page thread!  LOL

[SdK]

Yeah, losing our second leading scorer, leading rebounder 5th year senior post player literally moments before the biggest game of most of our teams lives for a completely unexplained reason I'm sure had no impact on anything whatsoever, thanks incredibly smart person.

[Pete]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

we wouldn't be in the sweet 16, quit suggesting that.  it is so rough ridin' ridiculous to suggest that we would have won with jamar.  people should be mad that jamar was suspended, but that is not why we lost.

That's why I put that "mere shot" part in there.  I was very specific.

[SdK]

DNR after page 3.


While you cannot say that we win with Jamar, you also cannot say we lose with or without him. That's rough ridin' stupid.

Gip was subpar today and that's ok. Gip being subpar when subbing in for Jamar is a lot different than Gip being subpar while attempting to spell Jamar.

Jamar is without a doubt the most important player to this team this year. Regardless of his stat line, this team doesn't win without Jam. It just doesn't work. Anyone that thinks another player on this team is KSU's mvp is an idiot.

[kim carnes]

I understand the anger, i'm pissed too, but Currie and Frank got it right.  The anger should be directed at townie-narc-eff.   I wish we could sweep this crap under the rug, but crap like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

What "bite" could be worse than the mere shot at a sweet sixteen?  Vacating it? 

No one on here would disapprove of Currie if that happened.

....but Currie's future employers might, and that is what this was about.

we wouldn't be in the sweet 16, quit suggesting that.  it is so rough ridin' ridiculous to suggest that we would have won with jamar.  people should be mad that jamar was suspended, but that is not why we lost.

That's why I put that "mere shot" part in there.  I was very specific.

i know you were, pete.

[XocolateThundarr]

It's 10 pm and I am still so pissed I can't formulate coherent thoughts on the subject....eff.   

[EMAWmeister]

Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck
From rulebook: "current student-athlete who, prior to initial collegiate enrollment, has been receiving normal and reasonable (continued)

Cole Manbeck ? @Cole_Manbeck 
"living expenses from an individual with whom he or she has an established relationship may continue to receive occasional benefits."

 

[Panjandrum]

Enlighten me, but call me an idiot first. I just wouldn't feel right if I didn't get called an idiot for having too many other things on my mind over the last 12 months than some rough ridin' NCAA rule that I didn't think any 'Cat would be stupid enough to break again.

idiot.  under $100 in impermissable benes is no penalty.  under $300 is 3 games (for bball).  when the school's compliance office finds out about a potential violation, they sit the player, investigate and self report.  the ncaa examines the school's findings and rules whenever they get around to it.

what's the penalty if we know about it and ignore it until after the game? lack of institutional control?

In this specific case they could have reported it but played him pending a NCAA ruling using the prior relationship exception.  If the NCAA ruled after the fact that he should have been ineligible I think the worst case scenario would have been to vacate the game and each succeeding game.  Possibly a fine, no way would an isolated incident like that would have constituted any probation of any type.

Can you call it an isolated incident after the Beasley accusations?

Since the Beasley accusations haven't even been investigated by the NCAA, yes I can call Jamar's issue an isolated incident.  Also I'll say it again, self reporting isn't the same as self penalizing.  Reporting the issue doesn't mean that we had to sit him.  There isn't a harsher penalty for playing a guy after reporting a POSSIBLE eligibility issue.

I'm with you on this, but is it within the realm of possibility that we did this to say, "Hey, we knew about the potential of a minor infraction between Curtis Malone and one of our players, and we sat that kid prior to an NCAA tournament game.  Do you think we would have allowed Mike Beasley to play an entire year if we knew he was getting money from Malone and Joel Bell?" when the big investigation comes to town?

I want to think that there was a bigger reason for this than just Currie trying to gloss his resume.  I really, really want to think that.

[nicname]

You guys worrying about Jamar's sitting effecting the outcome of the game are arguing over spilled milk.  The real drama is how it effects Frank and our program going forward.  Screw Currie, he is doing what's best for him, not K-State, and definitely not Jamar.

[Dugout DickStone]

You morons are missing the obvious.  Malone is sucking up to Cuse and when Jamar mentioned he needed dough Malone saw his window.

Who the eff Western Unions anyone money, let alone $200, except someone who wants the receiving person to get caught?

Still a crap show but clear our rube ass AD got taken again.