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Quote from: OregonHawk on March 10, 2012, 03:53:12 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 02:35:14 PMPretty sure we're the only top 40 program in a major conference constantly afraid of losing their coach to similar or worse program.Illinois is a much better job than K-State. It's a top 10 job with the right coach. Yeah because the recent and historical trends of the two programs have born that out.
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 02:35:14 PMPretty sure we're the only top 40 program in a major conference constantly afraid of losing their coach to similar or worse program.Illinois is a much better job than K-State. It's a top 10 job with the right coach.
Pretty sure we're the only top 40 program in a major conference constantly afraid of losing their coach to similar or worse program.
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 04:04:04 PMQuote from: OregonHawk on March 10, 2012, 03:53:12 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 02:35:14 PMPretty sure we're the only top 40 program in a major conference constantly afraid of losing their coach to similar or worse program.Illinois is a much better job than K-State. It's a top 10 job with the right coach. Yeah because the recent and historical trends of the two programs have born that out. Are you serious? They just played for a national title in 2005. It's not even debatable... Illinois is a better job than K-State. Sorry.
in the end, EMAW will always win.
Illinois is a much better job than KSU, anyone that disagrees is high on life/glue.
Illinois is a better job based on potential I would say. Much more money and a much stronger basketball fanbase. They have the natural resources, but they have not taken advantage of them lately.
The 1950's called and said no one gives a crap.
What is the cutoff for when records are irrelevant when comparing programs? I would say 1995 or so. Any results before that is pretty meaningless IMO because recruiting has changed so much.yeah, I know ksu can't almost be a top 10 program all time if you do that, but whatever.
Why do you people think how close to Chicago matters? I love how dumbasses like 'clams uses the it isn't 1950 argument and then in the next breath acts like college basketball is still regional like it was the 50's. Which is it The talk about Illinois' potential is cute but you can say that about literally any school. Illinois is such a great basketball school and they have so much money and prestige that their final four coach made $200,000 more than our high school coach.
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2012, 04:56:59 PMWhat is the cutoff for when records are irrelevant when comparing programs? I would say 1995 or so. Any results before that is pretty meaningless IMO because recruiting has changed so much.yeah, I know ksu can't almost be a top 10 program all time if you do that, but whatever.I always think 2 decades from the current year. Essentially, an incoming freshman's entire life. So, like, if a kid's growing up, all he'd know is a program being good or bad or average.
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 05:08:03 PMWhy do you people think how close to Chicago matters? I love how dumbasses like 'clams uses the it isn't 1950 argument and then in the next breath acts like college basketball is still regional like it was the 50's. Which is it The talk about Illinois' potential is cute but you can say that about literally any school. Illinois is such a great basketball school and they have so much money and prestige that their final four coach made $200,000 more than our high school coach. It matters because they can get more kids on unofficial visits easier and see lots more games during the season easier and get talked about around town and stuff.
Quote from: michigancat on March 10, 2012, 05:12:08 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on March 10, 2012, 05:08:03 PMWhy do you people think how close to Chicago matters? I love how dumbasses like 'clams uses the it isn't 1950 argument and then in the next breath acts like college basketball is still regional like it was the 50's. Which is it The talk about Illinois' potential is cute but you can say that about literally any school. Illinois is such a great basketball school and they have so much money and prestige that their final four coach made $200,000 more than our high school coach. It matters because they can get more kids on unofficial visits easier and see lots more games during the season easier and get talked about around town and stuff.As can Depaul, Notre Dame, and Northwestern. Illinois has had the same success keeping Chicago kids as those other schools.