Former Shell Oil CEO and K-State alum

[sonofdaxjones]

says $5 a gallon gas on the horizon.
 Friend to Big Oil (of course that is if you take the Obamabot thinking route, and only take into account gross profits, and forget about silly little things like margins and such).

http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Former-Shell-Gasoline-price/2012/02/13/id/429217

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Obama just hates poor people and won't lift a finger to try and help lower prices.  Then he'll blame his cronies in the oil business and take their contributions.

[Dugout DickStone]

If it hits $5/gal he can kiss the WH goodbye.  He can spin it however he wants, blame whoever he wants, but he will lose the general election.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If it hits $5/gal he can kiss the WH goodbye.  He can spin it however he wants, blame whoever he wants, but he will lose the general election.

That's the problem with ideologues, won't give an inch even if it kills him (or someone else).  The green agenda just is not ready for prime time no matter how much we want it to be.

[06wildcat]

Dax reads Newsmax.   

[Rage Against the McKee]

If it hits $5/gal he can kiss the WH goodbye.  He can spin it however he wants, blame whoever he wants, but he will lose the general election.

yeah

[06wildcat]

So the interview didn't actually happen because it was on a website associated with NewsMax . . . on a link that was linked off the Drudge Report??   I didn't pay any attention to any NewsMax assocation, I saw moneynews.com. 

That's like saying that everything done by so called "legitimate" news outlets is absolute fact, never to be questioned for political leanings etc. etc.   Absurd.

You read the Drudge Report   

 

[kstatefreak42]

So the interview didn't actually happen because it was on a website associated with NewsMax . . . on a link that was linked off the Drudge Report??   I didn't pay any attention to any NewsMax assocation, I saw moneynews.com. 

That's like saying that everything done by so called "legitimate" news outlets is absolute fact, never to be questioned for political leanings etc. etc.   Absurd.

You read the Drudge Report   

 

You watch Fox News and CNN   

[mortons toe]

So the interview didn't actually happen because it was on a website associated with NewsMax . . . on a link that was linked off the Drudge Report??   I didn't pay any attention to any NewsMax assocation, I saw moneynews.com. 

That's like saying that everything done by so called "legitimate" news outlets is absolute fact, never to be questioned for political leanings etc. etc.   Absurd.

You read the Drudge Report   

 

You don't "read" the Drudge Report... it is a conglomeration of news stories from various news sources.  I read linked stories from ABC, CBS, CNN, HuffPo, Al Jazeera, all the time... 

['taterblast]

speculaters gonna speculate

[p1k3]

drudge report is probably the best place to get news. Beats the hell out of cable thats for sure.

[06wildcat]

So the interview didn't actually happen because it was on a website associated with NewsMax . . . on a link that was linked off the Drudge Report??   I didn't pay any attention to any NewsMax assocation, I saw moneynews.com. 

That's like saying that everything done by so called "legitimate" news outlets is absolute fact, never to be questioned for political leanings etc. etc.   Absurd.

Dax, it's not the quotes I have a problem with. It's the putrid bullshit spread between the various quotes in the article.

Furthermore, by halting expansion of the Keystone pipeline project from Canada into the United States, the Obama administration further missed an opportunity to increase energy supply, while natural gas production needs to increase as well.

Let's just pretend that Keystons XL isn't a gambit to get Canadian oil to the Gulf where prices are higher and exporting is easier and believe the author on the first point. The second point is pure rough ridin' bullshit. NG closed at about $2.50/mcf today. NG producers are literally shutting down production because prices are so low and they're running out or storage for natural gas.

Iran factor
Some experts say should tensions between Iran and the West escalate to the point that the Islamic republic comes closer to developing nuclear weapons and Israel attacks it, oil could shoot up as high as $300 a barrel.

Unnamed experts that believe the world economy would withstand $200 oil long enough to get to $300 right now. 

An attack would require U.S. military assistance and money — unlikely in an election year.
Plus, Iran's nuclear installations are underground and well-concealed.

Yeah, the U.S. has already given Israel all the assistance and money it needs to destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities. LOL at throwing in underground and well-concealed. I mean it's well known that Israel doesn't have any sort of intelligence agency or anything.

Yes, it's possible that gas may hit $5 a gallon in places this year. And Obama might be responsible for 0.05 percent of that. His first day in office Obama could have signed a "Drill, Baby, Drill" law and it wouldn't make a rough ridin' difference today. No president in the last three decades has put forth a coherent energy policy.

Of course, you only started paying attention to politics in 2009 so you're going to be a little ignorant of some of this.

[06wildcat]

Here's a quote for you Dax,

The recent widening of the spread between WTI and global crude prices, plus the deep discounts for Canadian and Bakken crude have lowered the floor for Midwest product prices to fall relative to Nymex or Gulf Coast values, JP Morgan said in a note on Tuesday.

Boy, getting Keystone finished to ship that oil straight to the gulf will really lower the price of oil.

[Rage Against the McKee]

You're being literal and reactionary as usual 06.

All of that blather is perfectly understandable.   Strange though, apparently "Market Forces" are a new thing, only coming into play in about 2008 or so .  (that's a touch of sarcasm 06, try it sometime)

But at the end of the day pump prices are up 90% under the current administration and the price of necessities and related items are up significantly as well under the current administration .  So why does Barry W. Obama hate the working poor so much?

Policy towards Iran is not a product of this administration?  (Gosh would would Iran feel threatened anyway?  Surrounded by Nuclear Powers and U.S./NATO military bases.   I must admit, if you've followed the progress of such things, you'd see that PNAC couldn't have held hold a candle to this administration.   This administration is PNAC on steroids with a JOLT Cola chaser.   Oh wait, wait, Iran sponsors terrorists . . . I mean it's not $75 Billion dollars in arms deals and billions more in military aid in the last year to Middle Eastern countries but it is "sponsorship" none-the-less.) 

Hey watching the Today Show right now, story on gas prices, one man on the street said, "EVERYTHING is going up, except the paycheck".   Look at Theresa Montana, flower store owner, she had to raise her delivery price $1 dollar per delivery because of gas prices.  That's just for flowers 06 . . . why does the administration hate working people?    Oh wait, the Today Show also mentioned those newly relevant "Market Forces" for the price of gasoline.  (there's a touch of sarcasm there 06) .   Funny, they didn't mention a failed "green energy" policy that this administration is pursuing . . . that almost ignores viable alternative transitory technologies (I'll have to see how vested GE is in those viable alternative transitory technologies). 

Gas was more than $4 per gallon at one point during Bush's presidency. It's not really fair to compare the highest price of gasoline under Obama's presidency to the lowest cost under Bush's, especially when the world market dictates price more than the domestic market.

[06wildcat]

You're being literal and reactionary as usual 06.

All of that blather is perfectly understandable.   Strange though, apparently "Market Forces" are a new thing, only coming into play in about 2008 or so .  (that's a touch of sarcasm 06, try it sometime)

But at the end of the day pump prices are up 90% under the current administration and the price of necessities and related items are up significantly as well under the current administration .  So why does Barry W. Obama hate the working poor so much?

Policy towards Iran is not a product of this administration?  (Gosh would would Iran feel threatened anyway?  Surrounded by Nuclear Powers and U.S./NATO military bases.   I must admit, if you've followed the progress of such things, you'd see that PNAC couldn't have held hold a candle to this administration.   This administration is PNAC on steroids with a JOLT Cola chaser.   Oh wait, wait, Iran sponsors terrorists . . . I mean it's not $75 Billion dollars in arms deals and billions more in military aid in the last year to Middle Eastern countries but it is "sponsorship" none-the-less.) 

Hey watching the Today Show right now, story on gas prices, one man on the street said, "EVERYTHING is going up, except the paycheck".   Look at Theresa Montana, flower store owner, she had to raise her delivery price $1 dollar per delivery because of gas prices.  That's just for flowers 06 . . . why does the administration hate working people?    Oh wait, the Today Show also mentioned those newly relevant "Market Forces" for the price of gasoline.  (there's a touch of sarcasm there 06) .   Funny, they didn't mention a failed "green energy" policy that this administration is pursuing . . . that almost ignores viable alternative transitory technologies (I'll have to see how vested GE is in those viable alternative transitory technologies). 

Gas went up more than 400 percent under Bush so Kanye was right.

[Dugout DickStone]

You're being literal and reactionary as usual 06.

All of that blather is perfectly understandable.   Strange though, apparently "Market Forces" are a new thing, only coming into play in about 2008 or so .  (that's a touch of sarcasm 06, try it sometime)

But at the end of the day pump prices are up 90% under the current administration and the price of necessities and related items are up significantly as well under the current administration .  So why does Barry W. Obama hate the working poor so much?

Policy towards Iran is not a product of this administration?  (Gosh would would Iran feel threatened anyway?  Surrounded by Nuclear Powers and U.S./NATO military bases.   I must admit, if you've followed the progress of such things, you'd see that PNAC couldn't have held hold a candle to this administration.   This administration is PNAC on steroids with a JOLT Cola chaser.   Oh wait, wait, Iran sponsors terrorists . . . I mean it's not $75 Billion dollars in arms deals and billions more in military aid in the last year to Middle Eastern countries but it is "sponsorship" none-the-less.) 

Hey watching the Today Show right now, story on gas prices, one man on the street said, "EVERYTHING is going up, except the paycheck".   Look at Theresa Montana, flower store owner, she had to raise her delivery price $1 dollar per delivery because of gas prices.  That's just for flowers 06 . . . why does the administration hate working people?    Oh wait, the Today Show also mentioned those newly relevant "Market Forces" for the price of gasoline.  (there's a touch of sarcasm there 06) .   Funny, they didn't mention a failed "green energy" policy that this administration is pursuing . . . that almost ignores viable alternative transitory technologies (I'll have to see how vested GE is in those viable alternative transitory technologies). 

Gas went up more than 400 percent under Bush so Kanye was right.

Well no crap.  Kanye is right about everything.  eff Taylor Swift

[06wildcat]

Dax, I don't get your obsession with sarcasm. Please explain.

[ednksu]

Love the Obama made gas go up talking point.  Love how the right completely ignores how high it got under Bush and the resulting death of the economy. 

[06wildcat]

Dax, I don't get your obsession with sarcasm. Please explain.

Yes, obviously you don't get it.

So was your original post supposed to be sarcastic? Do you actually know what sarcasm is? Should I point out the many instances of my use of sarcasm in this thread for you?

[06wildcat]

Is it common for you to defend your sarcasm as if it were a legitimate point? Seems like an incredibly odd thing to do.

[p1k3]

For the Obama admin to be as radical as PNAC they would have to start wars with more middle eastern countries, have a military base in Cuba to keep goat farmers, and act like passing the Patriot Act and NDAA is for out "safety"

so yeah...sounds about right.

[puniraptor]

But what does Chris Merriweather say?

[mortons toe]

But, I thought that it was Bush and ExxonMobil that were in on a conspiracy to reap massive profits from oil price gouging??? Is Obama one of them? 

Gas was more than $4 per gallon at one point during Bush's presidency. It's not really fair to compare the highest price of gasoline under Obama's presidency to the lowest cost under Bush's, especially when the world market dictates price more than the domestic market.

 

Gas went up more than 400 percent under Bush so Kanye was right.

Love the Obama made gas go up talking point.  Love how the right completely ignores how high it got under Bush and the resulting death of the economy.

[Rage Against the McKee]

But, I thought that it was Bush and ExxonMobil that were in on a conspiracy to reap massive profits from oil price gouging??? Is Obama one of them? 

Who said that?

[tdaver]

You are all missing the real question here... This guy has got to be loaded.  Lead candidate for the open Ksu TBoone role?