:runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)

[Underdog Wildcat]

Will played better last night. He got to the rim more aggressively than he has all year. Even though he didn't make anything, it led to a lot of ORebs.

And LOL @ anyone not unhappy with this win. LOL.

This is ridiculous.  If someone wants to be pissed at the FT's than I won't complain.  We left 18 points at the FT line...18!!!  They left 2.  The game is a snoozer if we make our FT's and they don't go 19-21....both were anomalies.

Fuktard, I refuse to believe missing 8 of our last 10 FT's in the last 2 minutes of a close game as being an "anomaly" where you just throw your hands up and say "Oh well, sure hope that doesn't happen again!"

It was a teamwide failure to deliver in the clutch. Now, I hope it provides some strong motivation for our team to put in some work to get that corrected(probablly and preferrably on their own time).

Glad to get the win, but we have got to improve in closing these games out, whether it be taking care of the ball, knocking down FT's, eliminating defensive lapses, we have got to stay mentally strong late.

[pissclams]

Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

i don't  think that angel will ever be an effective b12 pg

[michigancat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

[Underdog Wildcat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

[michigancat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

[mcmwcat]

How much do we trust JJones? How much does Frank trust him?

you know the answer to both these questions.

we trust JJones very little and Frank trusts him even less.

[mcmwcat]

Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Yeah, I guess his plays off the ball were what led him getting to the rim so much. It was good, either way.

Yeah, he does appear to come curling off those screens more aggressive and ready to attack, really had some tough luck on a couple of those floaters, have no clue how that 1 didn't fall in the 1st half, Henriquez got the tap in though, so I guess it's all good.

One of the stats that interested me was OR% off certain player's misses, for example it seemed like Denis's runners led to more OR's than other misses, and it seemed like Sprads was the same way last night. So I looked it up: Sprads had 6 misses, but 4 of them led to OR's.

Someone smarter and/or more time on their hands than me should start tracking OR% off each players misses. thanks.

 

[Underdog Wildcat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

Completely different cicrumstances in all 3 of those games, I was disappointed we didn't deliver in the clutch last night.

We can't let it happen again, so from that perspective, I really do hope it was an anomaly.

[kso_FAN]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

Completely different cicrumstances in all 3 of those games, I was disappointed we didn't deliver in the clutch last night.

We can't let it happen again, so from that perspective, I really do hope it was an anomaly.

It was.

[michigancat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

Completely different cicrumstances in all 3 of those games, I was disappointed we didn't deliver in the clutch last night.

We can't let it happen again, so from that perspective, I really do hope it was an anomaly.

The circumstances were very, very similar to VT.

[Underdog Wildcat]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

Completely different cicrumstances in all 3 of those games, I was disappointed we didn't deliver in the clutch last night.

We can't let it happen again, so from that perspective, I really do hope it was an anomaly.

The circumstances were very, very similar to VT.

The environment, pressure, and expectations were completely different.

[Cire]

Gruds has finally figured out his role.  sprads needs get his head out of his ass and figure out one.  I think everyone else has it down pretty good on offense.

I don't know WTF to think on defense.  Just not athletic enough with sprads and gip on the floor at the same time I guess.

[kso_FAN]

Gruds has finally figured out his role.  sprads needs get his head out of his ass and figure out one.  I think everyone else has it down pretty good on offense.

I don't know WTF to think on defense.  Just not athletic enough with sprads and gip on the floor at the same time I guess.

Agree on Will.

I think part of the defense is guards, but I also think this is the major part of lesson learning from Frank. We have enough new pieces that struggle with some of Frank's concepts that it is difficult to maintain consistency. The more the season has went on, the more those weaknesses get exposed. We've shown plenty of stretches that we can still pay really great defense, we just struggle to keep it together for 40 minutes. My tendency is to believe as more players figure things out that we will get better/more consistent rather than worse.

[steve dave]

I enjoy watching angel play defense up in some guys face

[420seriouscat69]

How much do we trust JJones? How much does Frank trust him?

you know the answer to both these questions.

we trust JJones very little and Frank trusts him even less.

I trust Devon Peterson 2.0 a lot, I said A LOT!

[kso_FAN]

How much do we trust JJones? How much does Frank trust him?

you know the answer to both these questions.

we trust JJones very little and Frank trusts him even less.

I trust Devon Peterson 2.0 a lot, I said A LOT!

I think Frank is really trying to trust Jones.

[michigancat]

jones was pretty awful last night. So was martavious.

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

[kso_FAN]

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

Not like Barnes does. He dares officials to call it and they don't. He went back to the "have the big walk up the floor with his hands up" moving screen while UT's guards dribble around him more than he has in some time it seemed to me.

[michigancat]

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

Not like Barnes does. He dares officials to call it and they don't. He went back to the "have the big walk up the floor with his hands up" moving screen while UT's guards dribble around him more than he has in some time it seemed to me.

The arms up thing is the worst. They did it a ton when they broke Beasley's heart during the ELITE unveiling. They also had the guy in the post pretend to be a post but he was really just there to set a moving screen for Kapogno. It was kind of weird, but they did it a ton.

[kso_FAN]

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

Not like Barnes does. He dares officials to call it and they don't. He went back to the "have the big walk up the floor with his hands up" moving screen while UT's guards dribble around him more than he has in some time it seemed to me.

The arms up thing is the worst. They did it a ton when they broke Beasley's heart during the ELITE unveiling. They also had the guy in the post pretend to be a post but he was really just there to set a moving screen for Kapogno. It was kind of weird, but they did it a ton.

I can't stand it.

[Stevesie60]

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

Not like Barnes does. He dares officials to call it and they don't. He went back to the "have the big walk up the floor with his hands up" moving screen while UT's guards dribble around him more than he has in some time it seemed to me.

The arms up thing is the worst. They did it a ton when they broke Beasley's heart during the ELITE unveiling. They also had the guy in the post pretend to be a post but he was really just there to set a moving screen for Kapogno. It was kind of weird, but they did it a ton.

I can't stand it.

You know he planned it.

[puniraptor]

 

[Cire]

And UT sets lots of moving screens. Everyone does, though, I guess.

Not like Barnes does. He dares officials to call it and they don't. He went back to the "have the big walk up the floor with his hands up" moving screen while UT's guards dribble around him more than he has in some time it seemed to me.

The arms up thing is the worst. They did it a ton when they broke Beasley's heart during the ELITE unveiling. They also had the guy in the post pretend to be a post but he was really just there to set a moving screen for Kapogno. It was kind of weird, but they did it a ton.

Turd's offense did this all the time too.

[MakeItRain]

I honestly don't know if UW is trolling, but the 2-10 FT's stretch is definitely an anamoly.

No trolling dammit, tucking my shirt in good and tight, don't care if you've gone 0-5 from the line up until that point, if you're a halfway decent shooter like Gruds, Rodriguez, and Sprads are, you step up and knock those down late.

Anamoly. Look at WVU and VT. Those are really the only close games that involved FT's.

Completely different cicrumstances in all 3 of those games, I was disappointed we didn't deliver in the clutch last night.

We can't let it happen again, so from that perspective, I really do hope it was an anomaly.

The circumstances were very, very similar to VT.

The environment, pressure, and expectations were completely different.

You're both right BTW, of course 2-10 from the line at any point by any combination of FT shooters on any level beyond middle school is an anomaly.  However, it wasn't some fluke, it was a bona fide choke job.  The first misses by Irving and ar-t weren't surprising because they are crappy free throw shooters, it was the last 1-4 from Rodney and Will that can only be explained by the lemon booty.  It won't happen again, but it was most definitely a choke job.

[sys]

The first misses by Irving and ar-t weren't surprising because they are crappy free throw shooters.

no.  73%, was over 80% until his last couple of games.