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:runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:26:03 PM »
1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   35   1.21   54.2%   16.9%   47.6%   25.0%
Opp   35   1.18   56.0%   28.2%   50.0%   56.0%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   35   1.18   52.2%   17.2%   56.3%   130.4%
Opp   35   1.09   48.5%   17.2%   43.8%   20.6%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   71   1.19   53.4%   17.0%   51.4%   66.1%
Opp   71   1.13   51.7%   22.6%   46.2%   35.6%

It was ugly, but the Cats won every statistical category. This is a rare game where FT% made a significant difference in the point differential because one team shot significantly worse than average (12% worse for us) and the other shot significantly better (19% better for UT). This accounted for a nearly a 9 point swing in what the results would have been had each team shot to their average. No K-State fan would've complained about beating UT by 12. Otherwise, we didn't play great defense, but overall did a lot of things well, it was just a frustrating game made worse by inconsistent officiating.

Take the win and run. Now go win in Stillwater for the first time since Bush was President. HW Bush (Clinton took office 11 days later).


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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 11:29:51 PM »
130.4% FTR in the the 2nd half :love:
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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 11:30:58 PM »
130.4% FTR in the the 2nd half :love:

We outscored UT from the FT line by 2 points.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 11:36:53 PM »
130.4% FTR in the the 2nd half :love:

We outscored UT from the FT line by 2 points.

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Wow. That is extremely JYC-y.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 12:15:19 AM »
Finally took care of the ball

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 02:38:27 AM »
We sucked outside of a couple of bright spots.

Jamar played well when on the court.  Gip played well.  Rod obviously. 

I haven't felt this bad after a win in awhile.
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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 03:02:02 AM »
We sucked outside of a couple of bright spots.

Jamar played well when on the court.  Gip played well.  Rod obviously. 

I haven't felt this bad after a win in awhile.
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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 07:18:16 AM »
Missing 8 of 10 free throws down the stretch to salt the game was quite upsetting.

I'm hoping this trend of giving away games or almost giving away games because of a lack of concentration is going to be reversed.


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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 08:02:13 AM »
We sucked outside of a couple of bright spots.

Jamar played well when on the court.  Gip played well.  Rod obviously. 

I haven't felt this bad after a win in awhile.

Wait until after Saturday when we get our ass kicked all over the court and lose.  This rough ridin' team is awful...sans Gruds, if he goes down with an injury we are looking at winning about 2 more conference games the rest of the year

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 10:24:59 AM »
We sucked outside of a couple of bright spots.

Jamar played well when on the court.  Gip played well.  Rod obviously. 

I haven't felt this bad after a win in awhile.

Wait until after Saturday when we get our ass kicked all over the court and lose.  This rough ridin' team is awful...sans Gruds, if he goes down with an injury we are looking at winning about 0 more conference games the rest of the year

Is it just me, or were we playing better when McGruds wasn't being the team "leader"?  :dunno:

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 10:28:09 AM »
It seems like we have less people as involved in the scoring.  Not looking at stats, but seems like it.

Also, our bench seems to be contributing less.  bench had something like 17pts last night, iirc.

I don't think it is because of Rodney, in fact, I think it's the other way around.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 10:29:42 AM »
Honestly I thought Texas played really well considering our fast start and 15 point 1st half lead.  We should be pleased with this win.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 10:36:56 AM »
It seems like we have less people as involved in the scoring.  Not looking at stats, but seems like it.

Also, our bench seems to be contributing less.  bench had something like 17pts last night, iirc.

I don't think it is because of Rodney, in fact, I think it's the other way around.

Sprads has to play better. In Big 12 play he's only shooting 31.8% overall, and a terrible 25% on 2 point shots. 3 point shooting is at 33.3%, also well below his average. Plus he's at 18 assists to 13 TOs. Not terrible, but he's had three games with 4 TOs in that stretch.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 10:44:15 AM »
Will played better last night. He got to the rim more aggressively than he has all year. Even though he didn't make anything, it led to a lot of ORebs.

And LOL @ anyone not unhappy with this win. LOL.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 10:49:38 AM »
Fran Fraschilla, during the telecast, said that all referees in power conferences should watch the tape to see how best to officiate high major basketball. I nearly spit out my fine German hefeweizen.

Texas played about as well as they will on the road and we still beat them. Be happy.

Although we sucked at the free throw line the last minute of play, we still made more free throws than they attempted, iirc. This is the only free throw statistic I care about.

EMAW, bring on the Pokes. We need to beat them in Stillwater now before Marcus Smart owns us next year.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 10:51:07 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 10:52:14 AM »
How much do we trust JJones? How much does Frank trust him?

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 10:54:00 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Agreed, really need Angel to come around quickly

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 10:55:45 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Yeah, I guess his plays off the ball were what led him getting to the rim so much. It was good, either way.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 10:57:14 AM »
Maybe Frank is buying into the perception that Jeremy Jones is a quality basketball player, which he is not...

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 11:01:47 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Yeah, I guess his plays off the ball were what led him getting to the rim so much. It was good, either way.

Yeah, he does appear to come curling off those screens more aggressive and ready to attack, really had some tough luck on a couple of those floaters, have no clue how that 1 didn't fall in the 1st half, Henriquez got the tap in though, so I guess it's all good.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2012, 11:07:40 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Yeah, I guess his plays off the ball were what led him getting to the rim so much. It was good, either way.

Yeah, he does appear to come curling off those screens more aggressive and ready to attack, really had some tough luck on a couple of those floaters, have no clue how that 1 didn't fall in the 1st half, Henriquez got the tap in though, so I guess it's all good.

One of the stats that interested me was OR% off certain player's misses, for example it seemed like Denis's runners led to more OR's than other misses, and it seemed like Sprads was the same way last night. So I looked it up: Sprads had 6 misses, but 4 of them led to OR's.

Someone smarter and/or more time on their hands than me should start tracking OR% off each players misses. thanks.

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 11:39:37 AM »
Will played better last night. He got to the rim more aggressively than he has all year. Even though he didn't make anything, it led to a lot of ORebs.

And LOL @ anyone not unhappy with this win. LOL.

I'm not unhappy with any win, ever. :ck:

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 11:41:20 AM »
Sprads and Big 12 PGs, hasn't been a good arrangement for the KSU Cats.

I like him so much more off the ball, catch and shoot, take care of the ball, find the open man, don't worry about creating.

But our other options are fairly limited at PG right now, so it is what it is, we are what we are.

Yeah, I guess his plays off the ball were what led him getting to the rim so much. It was good, either way.

Yeah, he does appear to come curling off those screens more aggressive and ready to attack, really had some tough luck on a couple of those floaters, have no clue how that 1 didn't fall in the 1st half, Henriquez got the tap in though, so I guess it's all good.

One of the stats that interested me was OR% off certain player's misses, for example it seemed like Denis's runners led to more OR's than other misses, and it seemed like Sprads was the same way last night. So I looked it up: Sprads had 6 misses, but 4 of them led to OR's.

Someone smarter and/or more time on their hands than me should start tracking OR% off each players misses. thanks.

Hmmm. That would be an interesting stat. "Who is our best player at missing shots well".

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Re: :runningmousewithwinning: (Adv stats vs UT)
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 11:54:21 AM »
Will played better last night. He got to the rim more aggressively than he has all year. Even though he didn't make anything, it led to a lot of ORebs.

And LOL @ anyone not unhappy with this win. LOL.

This is ridiculous.  If someone wants to be pissed at the FT's than I won't complain.  We left 18 points at the FT line...18!!!  They left 2.  The game is a snoozer if we make our FT's and they don't go 19-21....both were anomalies.